User talk:Aschlafly/Archive65

I want delete and protect rights

The CCPshill is making socks and making garbage articles. Shobson20 (talk) 16:21, 3 January 2021 (EST)

You'll have to get in line like everyone else. I've made far more edits than you have, and I don't have those tags yet. Besides, what do you think is the message you're sending to us when you say you'll be indefinitely inactive and suddenly come back right when there's vandalism by a certain troll? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 16:23, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Other than troll blocking, I HAVE been inactive. Andy seems to grant privileges based on how users could utilize them. I was given rollback rights based on how I was on the ball with blocking that troll making repeated socks. Since you've been just as on the ball sometimes, you should too. You got blocking rights when Andy noticed how quick you were to revert edits by trolls but couldn't do anything to block them. Shobson20 (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Granted, the edits appear to be the work of an abusive sock, but is any of the content useful for Conservapedia? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:46, 3 January 2021 (EST)

No, it's pro-liberal, pro-communist propaganda that the troll is using as a sounding board. DavidB4 agrees with me. It's the standard policy to delete articles created by trolls. Shobson20 (talk) 16:48, 3 January 2021 (EST)

How is an outline of the Economics of the Soviet Union pro-liberal and pro-communist propaganda? You may have been a little too quick on the trigger. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:52, 3 January 2021 (EST)

The standard procedure that senior admins like Karajou use is to simply delete articles created by trolls and vandals. I've seen Karajou do it many times in the past. Shobson20 (talk) 16:54, 3 January 2021 (EST)

I looked into it, all of his garbage is copied and pasted from Leftypedia. Even worse than R------- W---. Definitely does not belong here. Shobson20 (talk) 17:03, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Your willingness to this quickly block new users indefinitely isn't necessarily helpful; if a troll knows that you're just waiting to banhammer him, he'll just get a thrill out of wasting much of your time on a spree to mock all of us. In addition, your habits seem to reflect on a misuse of your powers; you consistently have acted as if you haven't understood enough of the context of a situation or just disregard such. Back then over here, after I had asserted that your block of me was unfair, you responded in less than half an hour by blocking me, which quite frankly had proved my point. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 17:22, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Leave it alone, just let that go already. Shobson20 (talk) 17:34, 3 January 2021 (EST)

If you hadn't abused/misused your block powers, why would you be hesitant to address that point? It's obviously easy for you to tell me to "let that go already". —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 17:41, 3 January 2021 (EST)

I'm not "abusing" anything. I think this [1] makes as clear a case as any for why I block the socks of that CCPSHILL guy. I found exactly where he's copy editing from, and it's a left-wing website. As for you, I did explain before [2] [3] and you've chosen to ignore it, so there's no point in discussing anything, it only makes you madder, so it's better just to drop it. Conservative told us not to bring that stuff up anymore. Shobson20 (talk) 20:37, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Diffs? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:24, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Why is this a speedy? Did you inquire if it was a cut n paste? I seems to be just an outline. RobS^{Free Kyle!}

Opps, I didn't verify that it was made by the same use as the others...my mistake, I deleted. It didn't look substantive, but was it made by someone else? If so, we might want to have someone restore it. --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 16:53, 3 January 2021 (EST)

No don't, some of those pages were already deleted by Karajou before, and it's all content copied from the Communist propaganda site Leftypedia, all of the vandals other edits to existing pages are replacing the entire page with the version of the page on Leftypedia. This guy is literally making socks and then copying and pasting source code from Leftypedia here. Shobson20 (talk) 17:16, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Shobson20 said on November 8, 2020 that he would be indefinitely inactive. However, based off his contributions, it seems that he conveniently comes back here right when there's vandalism to revert it. For the undos and rollbacks in his contribs, the vandals' contribution pages are linked in the edit details, and the corresponding times listed prove my point. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 16:34, 3 January 2021 (EST)

That's not the issue. The issue is his revert actions without engagement and discussion with a new editor. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:42, 3 January 2021 (EST)

90/10 Rule Clarification

I was looking through the guidelines and I came upon some contradiction over the actual parameters of the rule. First, is the limit for talk page edits 10% or 90%? I've seen rules that say both ways, and I would like to be safe in making edits. Second, do minor edits, such as adding a period and proofreading count toward the mainspace edits total? Out of an abundance of caution, I have abstained from making talk page edits until I have 9 mainspace edits to cancel them out, and I would like to know if my abstinence is justified.
Thanks, -Mark Adams(Discuss with me) 19:25, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Hi Mark,

I'm obviously not Aschlafly, but I believe the 90 refers to talk, while the 10 refers to mainspace (at least 10% of edits should be to mainspace). The rule is not intended to stifle free discussion, but only to ensure that people are not just here to talk and waste time. As long as you also are contributing some, you shouldn't need to worry about posting on talk pages. --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 22:09, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Right. Don't worry about the 90/10 Rule, Mark, unless there is unexpected, incessant provocateur activity by someone.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Thanks for clearing that up for me. -Mark Adams(Discuss with me) 08:22, 4 January 2021 (EST)

We're supposed to have a collapse Template now, I guess. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:12, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Yes, and it's here. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 15:27, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Your reduction of the block length for a vandal

Andy, why did you reduce my block of this vandal from infinity to merely 6 months? Didn't you see their vulgar, inappropriate comments on Talk:Main Page via the diffs? Furthermore, looking at here, it seems that the user was previously blocked for vandalism. Since it's someone who apparently decided to come back after a two-year block length expired, giving a mere 6-month block would be a bad idea. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Friday, 21:27, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Long blocks are disfavored, for multiple reasons. For example, blocks are of an IP address and thus prevents legitimate users from accessing via that same IP address in the future. An infinite block implies, incorrectly, that people don't change. Some do change.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:38, 7 January 2021 (EST)

First of all, autoblocks aren't even enabled right now, as I've noticed in Special:BlockList. Secondly, even if they are, they only last for up to 24 hours. Thirdly, this particular vandal proved that they didn't change because they came back after a two-year block following previous vandalism. I'm mostly aware who this is, and this person who consistently creates socks trolling talk pages like that won't merely change. I can discuss more of this with you via email. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Friday, 21:42, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Blocks are not any form of punishment. They are simply to prevent improper edits for the time being, on a site that generally welcomes editors of all ideologies.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:33, 8 January 2021 (EST)

Gypsy Taub page

I have created Gypsy Taub which User:Karajou had deleted as "inappropriate". It is with different, original content. I also cc'ed you on an email to her daughter Inti Gonzalez. In God's Love.--Amorrow (talk) 19:05, 9 January 2021 (EST)

Twelfth Amendment

"The House GOP could still reelect Trump under the Twelfth Amendment with a majority of state delegations."

How exactly is that still possible at this point? I thought they already did the electoral college unsealments now? Genuinely curious, especially when I really want Trump over Biden. Pokeria1 (talk) 19:17, 9 January 2021 (EST)

The Twelfth Amendment grants the House (voting by state delegation, where the GOP holds a 27-20 majority) the authority to elect the president based on a count of the Electoral College votes in which no one gets 270 legitimate votes. The Twelfth Amendment is silent about who does (votes on) the count, but implicitly that power is in the House (voting by state delegation).

The House has a quorum by state delegation to convene, vote on the count, and then elect the next president. But Trump's inept advisers are hiding this option from him.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:27, 9 January 2021 (EST)

Didn't they already vote, though? Or am I missing something here? I thought they voted on January 6 for Biden, at least that's what's being reported anyway. Pokeria1 (talk) 21:52, 9 January 2021 (EST)

That vote on the 6th (7th, actually) was under the Electoral Count Act, which is likely unconstitutional. That was not under the Twelfth Amendment, which takes precedence.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:04, 9 January 2021 (EST)

The Electoral Count Act is a Jim Crow era relic. It was created by the same Congress that refused to take action against the Klan. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:08, 10 January 2021 (EST)

Okay, though there's apparently an issue on how, at least according to my Dad, who definitely voted for Trump, the 12th amendment makes clear that the quorum only applies if the candidates do not get the majority votes, instead going for top 3. Also cited the pocket constitution. Apparently, it says the following in my family's pocket constituion:

"The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;–The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;–The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such numbers be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. [And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President–-]* The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no other person constitutionally inelgible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

• Superceded by section 3 of the Twentieth Amendment.

From the way my Dad's talking, (and bear in mind, he voted for Trump, and didn't want Biden or Harris in office at all) the quorum won't work from that reading because Biden DID get 270 votes, whether legitimate or not. I really need some more details to dissuade my dad regarding that bit, more than just 138 GOP Electors and having a vast majority of states supporting Trump/the GOP, since Dad doesn't think that's applicable due to the bit about according to him, that only applies if there IS no majority votes involved that conclusively decided the winner (ie, having three candidates winning). Pokeria1 (talk) 16:01, 10 January 2021 (EST)

Hey Aschlafly.

I think there should be some vandalism rollback tools to get rid of vandalism and a warning system similar to that of Wikipedias Twinkle and Huggle. --Punish Joe Biden 23:26, 15 January 2021 (EST)'

I'm definitely not Andy, but I've looked into the vandalism tools on Wikipedia and they seem way too lenient. Our small community can't afford to wait for the vandal to edit three or four or however many times Wikipedia makes its editors wait. We should ban a vandal right when they vandalize if it's obvious. However, I would be in favor of a noticeboard similar to [[4]]. That way non-admins can easily tell admins when there is vandalism. That may also help with our account creation problem. -Mark Adams(Discuss with me) 07:26, 18 January 2021 (EST)

Please open account creation again

Andy, our Alexa ranking and page view growth has significantly fallen for the past few months, and this problem only seemed to have gotten much worse since you locked account creation. Can you please just open it again and keep it that way? If CP is on the right track, we'd elicit the scorn of leftists, yet they currently are laughing at us for shutting potential new editors out. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 01:08, 16 January 2021 (EST)

I agree. If took me more than two weeks to get an account here. Limiting accounts may block vandals, but it hampers the efforts of serious editors. -Mark Adams(Discuss with me) 06:53, 16 January 2021 (EST)

I can vouch for that, as I ended up blocked from editing for a day a little while back solely because I happened to share the same IP address as a vandal by sheer coincidence, despite not actually doing anything to warrant it. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:43, 16 January 2021 (EST)

Those are good points to bring up. And as for the 127.0.0.1 problem, all autoblocks have apparently been removed to stop that problem from affecting every user, as I noticed in Special:BlockList. This means that Andy has altered the CP MediaWIki database, which does make me wonder why he didn't take some previous suggestions on improving it. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 12:01, 16 January 2021 (EST)

If we were to bring back wide range blocks and keep account creation open for other IPs, we should add some kind of very visible link so that interested new users could request an account or email an active user to create one. -Mark Adams(Discuss with me) 10:06, 17 January 2021 (EST)

Hmm, that sounds like a good idea. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 12:04, 17 January 2021 (EST)

I've reopened account creation now. As to our traffic, it is strong and growing as reflected by our posted Statistics page. Alexa has never properly measured our traffic or fluctuations in it; Alexa seems to be merely a marketing tool for Amazon. Thanks for your comments and suggestions.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:21, 17 January 2021 (EST)

Okay, thank you very much! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 12:33, 17 January 2021 (EST)

Hi There.

How do people get file upload rights? --Punish Joe Biden 18:20, 17 January 2021 (EST)

By having a very strong record of contributing content.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:26, 17 January 2021 (EST)

Alright, thank you for telling me. --Punish Joe Biden 18:30, 17 January 2021 (EST)

Just one more question

Is the user User:CP is far-right a sock?

Conservapedia priorities

Please see Conservapedia:Project Priorities and update, protect, etc. as, of course, you see fit.--Amorrow (talk) 23:47, 19 January 2021 (EST)

I need access to the Main Page

Will you please grant me access to Main Page? Either remove protection or make me an admin or something? Thanks in advance.--Amorrow (talk) 02:00, 20 January 2021 (EST)

I don't need access to the Main Page. But if I had it, I'd remove the 'pi' entry from the initial list of articles, because I think it's causing this... -J Psircleback (talk) 11:38, July 18, 2021 (EDT)

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Bizarre. Pi has been there for months without any complaints. Time to replace it anyway, which I've done.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:00, July 18, 2021 (EDT)

POTUS and stuff

Please review Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and their talk pages. It would be in your best interest to do so.--Amorrow (talk) 16:20, 20 January 2021 (EST)

Special:WantedCategories mostly cleaned up now

I just blew through Special:WantedCategories as efficiently of my time as I can. Please unprotect the pages and categories I need access to to complete the job. The same goes for Special:UncategorizedCategories.--Amorrow (talk) 16:51, 20 January 2021 (EST)

They're unlocked now. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 02:11, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Edit request

Please add Conservapedia:Project Priorities to Template:Mainpageleft#Quick links. I would like it to be prominent.--Amorrow (talk) 04:08, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Main Page statistics

Please remove the two statistics at the top of Template:Mainpageleft and replace them with the two statistics in priority #3 cited in Conservapedia:Project Priorities.--Amorrow (talk) 12:57, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Alexa does not measure organic traffic. My understanding is that Alexa is a browser extension that a very, very small percentage of people use.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:39, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Please read https://support.alexa.com/hc/en-us/articles/200449744-How-are-Alexa-s-traffic-rankings-determined- and https://blog.alexa.com/alexa-panel-increase/amp/ .--Amorrow (talk) 19:35, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Almost no one uses Alexa to find websites. From the cited link: "Unique Visitors are determined by the number of unique Alexa users who visit a site on a given day." This begs the question of who Alexa users are. No one I know or read about.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:20, 21 January 2021 (EST)

Some privileges for my account might be nice

Please see User talk:Amorrow#Images.--Amorrow (talk) 21:31, 22 January 2021 (EST)

I think the trolls have been manipulating you......

Andy, in regards to opening/locking account creation, I think you've played into the hands of the trolls trying to undermine CP. On that day after you opened account creation at my request, the vandals came back to strike us with excessive nonsense, and their goal was likely to get you to immediately lock account creation again, which you did. The solution to handling the trolls is not locking account creation, but finding a better method of dealing with them. For instance, immediately blocking them upon sight will lead them to continuously create sockpuppets as a means to use up our time on whack-a-troll banhammering. In regards to the Sievert 81 sock last time, he went away after I talked with him and then handed a block, yet you seem to disagree with my method, as evident with your deletion of the talk page. In addition, dealing with vandals who make highly inappropriate edits should be to simply delete the revisions. After all, what's the point of the CP functions meant to handle trolls if we lock out everyone from being able to create an account, which would include the trolls themselves? A major current problem is that admins who can delete revisions don't do so when needed often enough. I would also suggest quickly fixing the URL problem so that http://conservapedia.com redirects properly not to mention restoring the www. in it, as well as ensuring that all search engine spiders can index our pages with little to no problem if that's not already so. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 15:03, 23 January 2021 (EST)

Also, it's not good PR when an editor asks for enhanced user rights (see immediate above thread) is responded to with a 30 day block. There should be more open discussion and clear articulation of CP policies without fear of reprisal. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:19, 23 January 2021 (EST)

Andy, just how long do you intend to keep account creation locked like this? Right now as we have a potential to gain new readers and improve our web traffic as conservatives are being banned elsewhere online, there's a chance we can gain more helpful editors that you're currently shutting out. Keeping potential new editors out just to keep vandals out simply isn't worth it. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 21:56, 25 January 2021 (EST)

LT, shhh, you're making too much sense. Nobody wants to hear that. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:29, 25 January 2021 (EST)

Please give BHathorn "move" and "delete" abilities

Andy, can you please just give BHathorn "move" and "delete" abilities in case he may need them in the future? If CP is to make it clear that users are expected to be efficient and contribute meaningful content via 90/10, then he deserves those tags by the standards set on user rights given to other users. I've noticed for a while now that a problem tends to be that you've extraneously and unnecessarily given too many privileges to users trying to undermine CP while ignoring many who contribute the most content. Some things on CP could use reforming, and its better late than never! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:44, 26 January 2021 (EST)

RobS

I think RobS needs to have a serious talking to, as some recent edits made by him to selected articles on this site, as well as comments he made on both my talk page and his, are indicating that he has started acting irrationally since the recent publication of a Department of Homeland Security note[5] announcing the illegal persecution of conservatives for speaking the truth about the illegal actions of the Biden regime. He has also recently abused his powers on this site, as he unjustly blocked me for calling out what he did on my talk page (where he falsely accused me of "trolling" for reporting the truth about the Biden regime[6]) and for his irrational and falsely accusatory comments on his talk page[7]. Although what I said to him in response may not have been ideal, the fact remains that what he said prior to that is not only inexcusable and unjustifiable, but also calls into question why he should continue to be an admin here if he is going to abuse his power in response to pointing out the truth about the Democrats and their minions. Northwest (talk) 02:41, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Northwest's rightwing extremist views will call down the Biden DHS on all of us. A 10 minute block to make the point after he reverted a Sysop warning should be sufficient. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 02:45, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Congratulations, you just proved my point for me (including your use of false accusations). Northwest (talk) 02:47, 28 January 2021 (EST)

You've had your Warning, both from me and the DHS. Nuff said. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 02:50, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Meantime, I highly recommend you review your edits over the years that the DHS may now deem racist. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 02:52, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Go ahead, become Biden's lapdog. All that means is that you outed yourself as a leftist shill from the start who only posed as someone who was against Communism, and when and if Biden loses 2024 and his stuff is undone, it will reflect badly on you in the long run. Conservapedia was created specifically to AVOID becoming a far-left talking point after Wikipedia did so under the direction of Jimmy Wales, and your current actions point to me that you're just a leftist plant. In fact, I've been suspicious of you since you refused to look at clear evidence that Putin WAS in fact still an unrepentant Communist, given even by sites like The New American as well as stated from his own mouth. To say little about how you implied that the Soviets didn't want nuclear war (despite their actions proving otherwise, not to mention those of Che Guevara and the fact that Lenin's whole ideology made it clear they wanted no restraint in the use of force, meaning if they had access to nukes back then, you'd bet they would use nukes on a mere whim if they felt like it, even against their own people, to say little about outside the USSR) when I merely suggested JFK get removed as a deep state victim. Pokeria1 (talk) 05:52, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Where'd you get the idea Putin is a communist? ....lemme guess, the MSM, Hillary Clinton, and the Comey FBI, and only after the Uranium One deal and Russian Reset and after he embarrassed the begeezus out of Obama in the Crimea. Thank you for your input. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 06:40, 28 January 2021 (EST)

If what you say is true, we can look back at what you were saying when Hillary hit the Russian Reset button, when Obama and Hillary sold American uranium to the communist Putin, etc etc etc. Here. Hmmm, You were writing on John Paul Sarte, Star Wars. and Jean Jacques Rousseau. You weren't concerned about communism at all. I bet $50 bucks I can identify a couple dozen of your socks on several wikis. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 06:50, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Off the mark, I'm afraid. I never bought the MSM's line, not to mention the Comey FBI and Clinton, about Russia Collusion (actually, if there was ANY Russian Collusion, it was from Clinton, and I'd argue Putin's more likely to support her than Trump). Actually, if I must be honest, I got the information about Putin being pro-Communist from WesternFreePress and Trevor Loudon, both of whom were very firmly against Hillary Clinton as well as pretty clearly Pro-Trump (not to mention Ion Mihai Pacepa, whom during the 2016 elections made it VERY clear that Hillary if anything would continue backing the Soviet line as a reason to NOT support her and if anything support Trump instead of her.). I also got it from New American, aka the John Birch Society. Not to mention some posts from FreeRepublic that exposed his communist sympathies in the present day, all without even MENTIONING Trump at all. And I was also suspicious of Russia still in fact being communist since I saw the movie Dreams of My Father in theaters when I saw a statue of Karl Marx being prominently displayed in Moscow briefly (made me wonder at the time "if Russia truly renounced Communism, why do they still have the founder of that ideology's statue up instead of doing to it that they did to various Lenin and Stalin statues?").

In addition, I don't use sockpuppets. If I get banned, I don't make any attempt at recreating a new identity (and even if I did, I certainly wouldn't be posting on there. I only made one exception on TV Tropes, and that's only because I couldn't find a way to get them to let me back in and I really needed to make certain edits. Well, okay, also LittleAriel Forums, but that was more to retrieve stuff that was backlogged there that I posted earlier which I couldn't access due to being banned, and I never made a single post to it under the new handle.). As far as Star Wars, I pointed out that time that George Lucas was trying to promote the Vietcong due to it being Communist based on Bill Whittle's Han Shot First video (which I saw back in 2012), and I even pointed out in those edits that Rousseau was pretty much responsible for a lot of the mess that Communism has now done. Heck, one of my edits for Sartre back then if I recall correctly even cited how he was firmly in bed with the KGB and that was one reason why he sang praises for that mass murderer Che Guevara. So no, those edits if anything PROVED I was very much concerned with Communism. In fact, one reason I did those edits was BECAUSE I had to be nearly brainwashed by leftists in the education system and nearly got tricked by Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker regarding Che Guevara. Pokeria1 (talk) 06:57, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Wait wait wait....you paid money to see Dreams of My Father?

Oh, and Rouseau, Sarte, and Star Wars were only 3 picked out, but I could have added a half dozen or more in the 10 seconds it took. I didn't want confusion with too much detail. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:11, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Note for Andy: This is what's called "piling on", or the "pile on effect" after NW made a formal complaint. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:13, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Not me, per se, more my parents (it was a family outing), but I definitely was interested in it after seeing a trailer, hoping that film would expose Obama as a creep (hated the guy since 2008/2009 due to his refusal to stop abortion even after I did that red envelope campaign, of which I think over 500,000 bare minimum went to his office, blocked them from even entering. And by 2012, his more communist views were coming to the forefront, which gave me MORE reason to hate him and want him removed from office including via impeachment, even being disgusted by the Republican members not taking the opportunity to do so despite very clear crimes and high misdemeanors practiced by him. Had to send several emails to my representatives urging them to do impeachment proceedings.). And I've seen all the Dinesh D'Souza films up to this point. And all those edits I made a while back generally were an attempt to expose people as being leftists/liberals, to say little about being communists. So yes, actually, back then, I DID care about exposing Communists. Wouldn't have made those edits at all if I didn't care at all as you seemed to imply. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:16, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Fair enough. I myself wasted a couple hours of my life reading Dreams from My Father, but only in the hope that my self-sacrifice would lead to the betterment of humanity. And I didn't waste any money on it. But your reference to somebody else paying still makes me think you don't understand how capitalism works. But anywho...what else do we have here....Ayn Rand, The Simpsons, the Crucible, Socialism (and another half dozen I'm leaving out)....do we detect a pattern here.... RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:42, 28 January 2021 (EST)

This one really cracks me up from the Hillary Clinton talk page:

• Time for an overhaul. I'm gonna begin rotating out some of the older stuff into spinoffs to make room for this next sad chapter of U.S. history. User:RobSmith 10:09, 19 May 2016 (EDT)

• Not really sure why that is necessary? At least, not to the degree that you've removed content into these spinoffs. The page is now quite literally useless. User:Progressingamerica 16:42, 19 May 2016 (EDT)

• Yeah, and besides, I'm not even sure what the next sad chapter is referring to that directly relates to Clinton you alluded to, as there doesn't seem to be any major additions to the article. Certainly nothing that would necessitate rotating the older stuff into spinoff article extensions to leave room for it. User:Pokeria1 22:50, 19 May 2016 (EDT)

See, this is a telltale identifying marker of Leftists - No vision. No foresight. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:54, 28 January 2021 (EST)

I actually do have an understanding of how Capitalism works. You pay for what you want to see. And to be fair, if I go with my family, I barely have any real reason to need to pay my money to see it. Plus, technically, my parents were the ones who told me that I only contribute if I actually paid money, so they suggested a loophole around avoiding seeing any films that involve liberalism. Were it wholly up to me, I'd be a shutin, act like the Founding Fathers when they boycotted tea from the Brits, not even drinking it in any capacity despite making their own. If I were to go by myself, I pay for it myself. As far as Dreams of My Father, to be fair, there's a lot of evidence that Obama only won 2012 due to massive voter fraud. As far as your statements of edits I made, the only actual edit I made on Ayn Rand was on the talk page [the edits I made to the article itself were reverting vandals], and that was merely pointing out she was closer to a leftist than a conservative in overall outlook, and probably was more like a communist DESPITE her hating them. Even Sartre promoted individualism with his Existentialist philosophies, and he was a communist. Same goes for Hideo Kojima and Solid Snake in the Metal Gear series. As far as The Simpsons, I gave that one a fair shake and listed any episodes that fit liberalism, conservativism, or were in the gray area regarding messages. No different than the various Greatest/Worst lists, even expanded on some examples and moved others. The Crucible had me making a minor grammar correction, adding a note about Abigail Williams in reality not being likely to engage in that kind of affair due to the significant age difference between her and John Proctor, and undoing an edit that implied Miller was promoting conservativism when he was really pushing Communism as usual. And for the Socialism articles, I added in one of Marx's titles, "father of socialism", and I undid edits that tried to downplay or remove Hitler and the Nazis' ties to socialism. If you're going to act like I don't care about Communism, you need a lot better evidence than that.

As far as your reference to posts on Hillary Clinton's talk page, I was wondering why your edit was necessary to remove a whole lot of information and relegating them to "spinoffs" when it really didn't seem to be necessary (not to mention removed a few sources altogether that if anything even further exposed her ties). If you're going to do that, at least explain in full why you want to remove them other than to "make room."). And are you going to call ProgressingAmerica a leftist as well? He was against Progressivism, even having a blog dedicated to it and was instrumental in exposing Fake News. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:15, 28 January 2021 (EST)

If you're going to accuse me of being from RW, at least state the full name of whatever it is you're alluding to, because I frankly don't know what you're talking about. If it's Rational Wiki, I never made a single edit on that site at all, let alone prior to joining Conservapedia (in fact, I never even heard of RationalWiki until AFTER joining this site), nor do I plan to since they're a bunch of scumbags who want to destroy Christianity, not to mention are most likely Biden supporters. Pokeria1 (talk) 06:25, 28 January 2021 (EST)

RobS, congrats on again proving my point with your second unjust block of me for removing a template that you used to try to hide truthful statements by Pokeria1 (while also inserting incivility - a violation of CP guidelines, BTW - into your reasoning for the further abuse of power you're now engaging in of late). Are you intent on trying to make an example of me for standing up to that abuse of power on your part? And incidentally, your use of the term "rightwing extremist" - a derogatory term of abuse used by the Left to refer to conservatives - when referring to me further up in the section[8] indicates right there that you just exposed yourself as a leftist who only pretended to be "conservative", and your recent behavior here in the last day or so is only making that clearer and clearer. Northwest (talk) 07:54, 28 January 2021 (EST)

How long have you been on this site? You certainly should know undoing the actions of a sysop is a blockable offense. If you didn't, now you know.

Secondly, do you really want me to spell it out for you, again? I will provide links if necessary.

• The Anti-Defamation League has determined that Birtherism is racism.
• The Anti-Defamation League has an intelligence sharing agreement with the FBI to provide manuals and training for profiling extremists (as documented here Political profiling).
• I've asked you twice now to review your edits over the past few years, given that an arrest was made yesterday by the Biden FBI for internet postings made in 2016.
• Lord knows, I've cleaned up enough of your racist garbage over the past several years, but I know there is still more there. You should thank me.
• This warning is not only about your current online actions, but probably more importantly about your past activity. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:05, 28 January 2021 (EST)

There are ways to communicate information on controversial subjects, but you always insist on spelling out in black and white your minority and extremist point of view. You need to stop. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:11, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Congrats, not only have you proven my point for the third time, you're also engaging in exactly the sort of things a leftist would engage in (including accusing conservatives of "racism" when, for starters, racism is actually a liberal trait and it's liberals who project their own racism onto conservatives and falsely attribute it to them, as well as trying to see "racism" where none exists [including criticism of Barack Obama and his legitimacy - which only liberals see as "racist" but really has nothing to do with race]). Furthermore, the ADL is not a credible organization because of its liberal bias and its history of anti-Semitism against conservative Jews and for aiding and abetting in Islamic anti-Semitism.

And to Andy, all that I and Pokeria1 documented above, combined with RobS's own words here and his actions on this site of late (combined with his earlier history of incivility and harassment, for which he has been justly blocked in the past), proves exactly why he cannot be trusted any further as an admin here and why he should be stripped of his sysop powers - because if he can abuse his power here against me based on his false accusations against me, he'll certainly do the same against any other conservative editor (especially now that his true liberal colors have come out). Northwest (talk) 08:19, 28 January 2021 (EST)

You know the ADL, as pointed out by Northwest, is a left-wing agitprop group that sided with actual anti-Semites as of late against Israelis despite their mission statement, right? I wouldn't even consider them valuable information for finding a dog, let alone for the FBI (and if I must be blunt, had the ADL been doing its current actions in the 1950s and 1960s, J Edgar Hoover would have ended up flagging them as a subversive Communist threat for justifiable reasons). As far as Birtherism, I actually found a document online showing Obama's birth certificate to some African country back around 2012, founded it on PJTV back when it was still around, and even tried to cite that document. It was definitely around 2010-2012. There was in fact sufficient evidence from that that he was not born in America or even an American-owned plot of land. And don't think that his being black had anything to do with it. He could have just as easily been a white Frenchman or Brit for all I care, and I STILL would have adhered to it for that reason. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:20, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Both of you guys need better arguments than "I'm right, the rest of the world is wrong." RobS^{Free Kyle!} 09:03, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Which is exactly what you're showing yourself guilty of being here. Northwest (talk) 09:06, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Congrats NW, you got an RW troll who supports you. One that crept onto the site right under yours and Karajou's nose. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:42, 28 January 2021 (EST)

And all you've done, Northwest, is proven that you do not know the difference between a conservative and an extremist. Worse yet, you don't care to know or learn. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:47, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Not caring to learn. know, and understand. is in itself extremist behavior.

Why did you undo and ignore the actions of a sysop? You're stupid? You're self-righteous? You know better than the rest of humanity what the rules are? or what you think they should be? C'mon. We've heard enough of your frothing at the mouth. Now explain yourself. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:55, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Prove that he's an "RW troll" as you falsely claim. What you're doing (as you did to me) is defamatory at the very least when you have nothing to back up your false claims, and all it's doing is causing you to dig yourself in deeper. Plus, all you're doing with every post of yours is further prove why you're no longer trusted here because of your 180 turn, your incivility (in violation of the CP rules), your false accusations and your abuse of power (as well as accusing me of what you yourself are guilty of). Northwest (talk) 08:57, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Nice try, NW. Answer the question, explain your reasons for undoing a sysop. Do not troll me. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 09:05, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Actually, the one really doing the trolling here now is you yourself, based on your recent behavior. Someone has to stand up to you and call you out for the power-abusing ego trip that you're now on. Northwest (talk) 09:09, 28 January 2021 (EST)

I said we heard enough of your frothing at the mouth, and asked you to explain your actions. You didn't. You trolled me instead. Enjoy a 2 hour block this time. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 09:13, 28 January 2021 (EST)

As long as you continue to be uncooperative, we can keep ratching up the blocks. The next one is 24 hours. I don't hand out multi-day, week, and monthly blocks lightly. When you return, we expect an explanation (or apology, if such were in you) for your actions. No more, "Mom, he's being mean to me," or "he's a closet lib." RobS^{Free Kyle!} 09:21, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Can you modify CP's oversight powers in the database?

Hi Andy, can you see if you can change the CP oversight ability in the database so that its actions can be reversible by anyone with the tag? The problem with the way it is currently is that apparently no one has the permission (not even administrators) to change the visibility of revisions whose associated users have been banned by oversight. Special:Log/suppress, which I would think is a private log of all oversight actions, also seems to be completely inaccessible. Our oversight powers with the way they are currently are too risky. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Thursday, 18:19, 28 January 2021 (EST)

I don't know how to do this, and frankly don't see the relevance of this issue to building an educational encyclopedia here. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:04, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Since you set up CP, wouldn't you know how to modify some of the functions? Besides, there are some inappropriate revisions I'm trying to get deleted that can't be done so due to the way the oversight abilities are set up. For instance, are you able to access Special:Log/suppress? From what I've heard, even those with the "Administrator" and/or "oversight" tags don't have permission for that. Some of these actions related to oversight that even admins don't have permission to do really should be made otherwise. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Friday, 20:12, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Andy, (please don't take this the wrong way) if you can't figure out how to operate the CP database and haven't learned about such in all these years, what makes you think you can single-handedly run CP well? If you haven't paid attention to and/or don't understand how the info in the database works, why should other CP users expect that you would fully pay attention to and understand everything that goes on CP and be able to resolve problems? This is a matter that some other users would probably feel in the same way that I do after you, for example, have refused to intervene in arguments. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Friday, 20:44, 28 January 2021 (EST)

The need for leadership

Make me a bureaucrat. I'll demand accountability from editors, asst sysops, and sysops, put a stop to nonsense, and whip this ship into line. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:07, 28 January 2021 (EST)

After the above's recent behavior (which, BTW, Karajou undid your earlier block towards NW and even referred to your action as abusing your power), I'd suggest against making him a bureaucrat. Pokeria1 (talk) 23:23, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Thanks for the endorsement, I'm sure it will help. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:58, 28 January 2021 (EST)

Andy needs a buffer against all the criticism for day to day management of the site. Somebody willing to work with editors and develop talent. I am that man/person/whatever. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 00:02, 29 January 2021 (EST)

No, you're not. Based on your recent behavior (including your incivility and false accusations and your three unjust blocks of me for standing up to you), if you got what you wanted, you'd only end up getting worse as you drive away decent (i.e. conservative) editors and turn CP into your own personal playground. Incidentally, what Pokeria1 said of you was not an "endorsement", it was a criticism of said abuse of power by you (which even Karajou agreed on as he unblocked me). Northwest (talk) 00:16, 29 January 2021 (EST)

Here's an idea: RobSmith can be promoted to bureaucrat, and CP also enacts a board of administrators/assistant sysops that holds equal power. For any major disputes in the future, there must be a cooperation between the bureaucrats and the board of users in reaching a solution. In order for decisions to be less biased, the board must consist of different types of users to balance things out; for example, maybe including me, Northwest, DavidB4, and DMorris? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Friday, 00:40, 29 January 2021 (EST)

You got it half right. There is a need for a structured organization with committees. A technical group. An editing and quality control group. And a dispute resolution group/accountability group. These committees will vary in size, depending on need. CP has never recognized the necessity of a division of labor, that people's talents lie in different areas. Nor has it made any effort to recruit and train editors in a world where wiki editors are actually fewer in number than the average number of internet users. CP needs active leaders to guide, encourage, and instruct people. I'm the man. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:15, 29 January 2021 (EST)

Andy's like the team owner. He hires a head coach who works with the personnel and is responsible for the team's success or failure. Andy get's to sit up in the press box and wave at the crowd. The head coach rolls up his sleeves and gets down and dirty with players, shows them what they're doing right and what they're doing wrong, provides encouragement, devises a game plan and sees that it's executed. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:26, 29 January 2021 (EST)

We got a whole world of young people out there, teenagers on up. They are the future of the conservative movement and the future of this project. Nobody is doing a thing to recruit them and get them involved. RobS^{Free Kyle!}

Ah so, what's our choice here? To continue as a cannibalistic echo chamber or move forward and grow this website with more users in a non-hostile, professional environment? It just needs leadership. The choice is up to all of you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:42, 30 January 2021 (EST)

I am ideally suited for that position of responsibility and leadership. I have a dream someday, we have a rendezvous with destiny; ask not what CP can do for you, but what together we can do for the future of humanity. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:50, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Again, no, you're not. You've already shown based on your recent behavior (i.e. incivility, false accusations and behaving more like a liberal) toward me and Pokeria1 in the last couple of days that you can't be trusted in a position of leadership without abusing your power (which Karajou put a stop to right off), and from the way you're talking here, it sounds like you want to seize this website from Andy and remake it to suit a more liberal POV. You've gone rogue and you can no longer be trusted as an admin here. Northwest (talk) 02:35, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Really? Karajou abused his blocking rights by not consulting the blocking Administrator.

We don't need these pointless personality disputes and personal vendettas. CP needs leaders who are willing to help editors, asst sysops, and sysops to become better in their roles, by pointing out when they make errors and encouraging them when they do a good job.

There is a big difference between a simple mistake and malicious vandalism. Both are often treated with the banhammer without warning. Why? Because this is how Admins were trained in the early days and its become habit now. This is a problem that has plagued CP for 14 years and has limited its user base. Not all CP's problems can be blamed on outside influences; many of these self-defeating habits have also limited CP's appeal and userbase. These longterm problems can be corrected with guidance and instruction to blocking assistants and admins. The problem is, no one listens to anyone else other than Andy, and Andy doesn't talk much. Andy needs to empower a foreman to whip this crew into line. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 02:52, 30 January 2021 (EST)

With malice toward none, with compassion toward all. Restricting a user's access to the server is a serious matter, and no one with blocking rights should ever take pleasure in it. But I'm afraid we have too many sadists who get an adrenaline rush everytime they exercise that power. RobS^{Free Kyle!}

The opponents of organization, structure, and leadership respond

You're not it; you won't get the job. Karajou (talk) 03:15, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Truth be told, Rob, no, Karajou did not abuse his blocking rights by unblocking me because he correctly saw that you were abusing your power (and said so in his summary). You also say that there are "too many sadists who get an adrenaline rush everytime they exercise that power", yet you were all too quick to do exactly that in the three times you blocked me for speaking my piece regarding your behavior here in the last two days (starting when you left that message on my talk page falsely accusing me of "trolling"). Those actions of yours speak for themselves and it's as simple as that. Northwest (talk) 03:18, 30 January 2021 (EST)

You were warned three times. That's a whole lot more than most Admins and assts are in the habit of doing. And is the proper way blocking should be applied. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 05:13, 30 January 2021 (EST)

What? You think by birthright you are entitled to revert sysops, ignore warnings, and violate rules? I asked you before to explain your actions, and you haven't yet. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 05:15, 30 January 2021 (EST)

When I'm a bureaucrat, you will explain your actions. The threat of blocking and revocation of use rights is much more powerful than ever pressing the banhammer. Accountability is what is lacking and sorely needed. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 05:20, 30 January 2021 (EST)

And those comments of yours, in effect, sum up perfectly why there are at least three people here (an admin and two editors) who don't think you should have the kind of power that you're demanding - and your ignorance of why that is isn't helping your case any. Northwest (talk) 06:11, 30 January 2021 (EST)

It never ceases to amaze me the processes in your mind by which you convince your self of facts, facts that no one else agrees upon. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:44, 30 January 2021 (EST)

If no one else agreed with Northwest, then why did Karajou unblock him and call you out for abuse of power? Why is it that I ended up disagreeing with you and instead agreed with Northwest? At least one other person agreed with him, so it couldn't possibly be that no one agreed with the facts that he presented. Besides, Church Militant, Gateway Pundit, and various other sources make clear that Northwest was if anything correct. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:49, 30 January 2021 (EST)

I don't know. Maybe because he's a sock? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:02, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Careful, Rob, you're treading dangerously close to libel there. Plus, regarding your comment further up between mine and Pokeria1's ("It never ceases to amaze me..."), it looks more like you're projecting what you are doing yourself in this case. Northwest (talk) 08:06, 30 January 2021 (EST)

According to you, editors and admins can violate rules at will. And CP doesn't even have a rule about calling out socks, as far as I know. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:14, 30 January 2021 (EST)

And you're still resorting to libel in saying what you posted here while ignoring the behavior that you've engaged in here over the past couple of days. Northwest (talk) 08:17, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Warning: Stop your trolling. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:19, 30 January 2021 (EST)

(ec) Pokeria, are you in agreement with Northwest that Conservpaedia editors, admins, and assts do not need to be accountable for their actions? Are you in agreement with Northwest that he can violate rules by birthright? cause that is exactly what Northwest just claimed above. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:10, 30 January 2021 (EST)

I made no such claim, Rob - that's merely assumption and twisting of facts on your part. Northwest (talk) 08:13, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Now you are lying and trolling. I told you yesterday when you return, we need an explanation for YOUR actions, not "he's being mean" or "he's a closet lib". Do not troll me again. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:17, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Now not only are you still libelling me, you're also accusing me of what you're doing here yourself. If you attempt to unjustly block me again for telling the truth about your behavior and the abuse of power you've engaged in here of late, that's not going to reflect well on you and will only end up turning more editors against you (and could even end up costing you your sysop powers here). Northwest (talk) 08:22, 30 January 2021 (EST)

You think blocking is the only solution? Where did you learn that? From Karajou? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:24, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Agreed, and that's exactly the reason why I'm downright AFRAID of becoming a mod, especially when I've had far too many experiences with mods behaving exactly like that in the past. Pokeria1 (talk) 04:58, 30 January 2021 (EST)

You all can do with a little training and instruction on how to be good editors and sysops and how to interact with other users. But you won't listen until you are forced to listen for your own benefit. Andy, this crew needs leadership. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 05:11, 30 January 2021 (EST)

We already have leadership as it is, since Andy, Karajou, and Conservative are all mods, as is David. And quite frankly, your suggestions are basically indicating that in order for Conservapedia to become more "mainstream", it needs to be more like Wikipedia. Conservapedia was specifically created to AVOID becoming a leftist site like Wikipedia, and neutrality is by default leftist. I am NOT supporting turning Conservapedia into yet another left-wing dominated site. I've already had to sit through a lot of leftist brainwashing in school and media, too much to allow for ANY reconciliation with leftists. And if I must be honest yet again, several of your comments where you implied the Soviet Union was better off than us and truly an innocent victim, as well as refusing to see that Putin is still a Communist despite even Putin himself admitting as much is PRECISELY the reason why I'm not fond of anti-Deep State stuff, despite having no love for the Deep State myself and believing it to be just as bad as Communism. Pokeria1 (talk) 06:30, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Conservapedia has obvious management problems - lack of communication between sysops. blocking without warning and collateral damage to good faith new accounts among other problems. We all know this and we know why. Andy has a day job. I'm not asking for nor looking to win a popularity contest. Conservapedia is not a democracy, as you three seem to think. Me personally, I was raised by a Korean War drill sargeant, so that drill sergeant attitude is in my blood. I'm not looking for your love or admiration, I'm looking to equip each user with the tools and skills they need to survive and be useful for a cause larger than themselves.

Focus on the problem, not on the man. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 06:46, 30 January 2021 (EST)

For the record, I don't want Conservapedia to be a democracy, either. A democracy if anything makes it MORE vulnerable to becoming leftist, as I've had to witness first hand with various sites I've gone to before and after this. It's also why I with all due respect for LT I do not support the creation of a board based on consensus. That's exactly the line of thinking that created the Politburo and also the Committee for Public Safety. Conservapedia, as indicated by the name, is to be first and foremost a Conservative encyclopedia, absolutely conservative/right wing, no room for liberalism/leftism. If we adopt neutrality measures, it will be a guarantee that it will end up lurching to the left. And while I agree it does need better management at times, I'm not going to risk getting it to become Wikipedia-lite and making it liberal just to get better management. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:15, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Those are interesting sentiments, and we all thank you. However, that is not the topic under discussion.

The topic under discussion is, what is better, chaos, disorganization, and editors working at cross purposes, or some kind of organization and accountability being instilled into editors? And of course because of the chaos, with each man doing what is right in his own sight, as Northwest seems to advocate, is the reason why we have no editors. We need organization, structure, and direction. It's simply not there. It has to be imposed from the top down, cause it has not and never will grow from the bottom up. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:35, 30 January 2021 (EST)

What NorthWest is advocating for is actually pushing for the conservative message over any politically correct statements that help liberal messaging more than conservativism. He's if anything advocating to make sure it's purely FOR Conservativism, and not another "Wikipedia-lite." And we do have editors. Who do you think I am? An editor. As is Northwest and various people who come on here to make necessary edits. Pokeria1 (talk) 07:46, 30 January 2021 (EST)

We're not discussing an ideological bent. We're discussing order versus chaos. Conservapedia, in the state it's in right now, more resembles anarchy than conservativism. Trolls have written a significant portion of CP's content, right under the nose of these supposed advocates of conservative content. Why? Because the anarchical nature of Conservapedia forbids any open discussion and self-examination of these problems. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 07:56, 30 January 2021 (EST)

Libel, trolling, and sockpuppetry

So now you're calling me into question with your latest irrational post on my talk page for doing the job I'm supposed to do as a sysop by blocking troublemakers who show up on this site to vandalize and make trouble? It's also not "libel" either to call them what they are either, socks and trolls - whereas what you're falsely saying about me on my talk page and on other talk pages is libel. By doing this, it sounds like you're actually siding with said troublemakers and continuing on your recent abuse of power caused by the irrational behavior you've been engaged in over the last four days. What you're doing is not only incivility, it's also downright harassment because you don't like that I'm simply trying to do my job as an editor and sysop here, and this is disgraceful behavior on your part. Northwest (talk) 20:45, 31 January 2021 (EST)

You're trolling nonsense right now. In one breathe you claim accusing a user of trolling or sockpuppetry is libel, in the next you claim some special privilege as an exemption for yourself for the same actions. This makes about as much sense as Karajou saying that User:Amorrow was not blocked for doxxing, he was blocked for publishing the name and address of somebody. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:52, 31 January 2021 (EST)

All you're doing with that reply is proving me right about you once again and why you're losing the respect of editors (and at least one admin) with your irrational behavior here of late - and what you're claiming here makes no sense whatsoever because the issues you wrote about are completely different. Northwest (talk) 20:59, 31 January 2021 (EST)

And Andy, since you're here editing now, you really should do something about RobS and how he has been acting here lately, as seen by the posts he has been leaving making attacks and false accusations and engaging in incivility and harassment against me. Northwest (talk) 21:02, 31 January 2021 (EST)

So,

• (A) tell me what doxxing is; and
• (B) tell me when suggesting somebody is trolling or a sock is libel, and when it is not.

And please answer the specific questions, don't just repeat what a bad guy I am. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:22, 31 January 2021 (EST)

You're only continuing to prove my points about you with each post you make, you know (and by the way, I already know what doxing is, and what you're falsely accusing me of is libel, but calling troublemakers what they are for the damage they try to do to Conservapedia is not because it happens to be the truth - something which, based on your recent accusatory posts, you seem to have lost understanding of). Northwest (talk) 21:35, 31 January 2021 (EST)

Now you are trolling again. Filling up the page with hundreds of bytes trashing me personally and refusing to answer specific points and questions is trolling. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:40, 31 January 2021 (EST)

You're still making false accusations against me, harassing me and being uncivil - and that in itself is trolling. Northwest (talk) 21:43, 31 January 2021 (EST)

Then answer the specific quesions. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:44, 31 January 2021 (EST)

I already answered them further up, in case you missed it. If that's not to your satisfaction, that's your problem alone. Northwest (talk) 21:52, 31 January 2021 (EST)

Well, I missed it somehow. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:11, 31 January 2021 (EST)

User:Karajou

Andy, please instruct User:Karajou to cease and desist his harassment of me. [9] Thank you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 03:13, 2 February 2021 (EST)

Oh, like you were harassing me repeatedly earlier (including those two unjust blocks of me for calling out your behavior and your abuse of power here)? Northwest (talk) 03:28, 2 February 2021 (EST)

About:Nighttime editing

I have been able to edit at night for the past few months, when I tried editing last night it wouldn’t let me. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 19:49, 2 February 2021 (EST)

Thanks for letting me know. Problem solved!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:09, 2 February 2021 (EST)

Thanks Andy, it was confusing as to why. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 20

47, 2 February 2021 (EST)

Re: Thanks

Sure thing, Andy. Just did what I could to help. Northwest (talk) 16:19, 4 February 2021 (EST)

Hello Andy

I would like to have a picture for the pages Greggs, Poundbakery and Sayers however image perks are limited to trusted people, so I was wondering if someone with image perms could upload them onto the pages as I am unable to do so. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 00:40, 7 February 2021 (EST)

Do you have links to the images? Uploads need to have attribution and license info, unless in the public domain. Thanks--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:44, 7 February 2021 (EST)

Not right now since I’m on mobile and it’s 6:04am. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 01:04, 7 February 2021 (EST)

Go to the website Flickr, search for the images in question, then click the upper left of the screen to set it for Creative Commons. It will show you all the images you can use. Karajou (talk) 01:26, 7 February 2021 (EST)

Question

So to recap:

• RobSmith was desysoped.
• RobSmith was blocked for a month
• I had gotten blocked for a year
• I still retained my user rights

Can anyone explain what offenses RobSmith and I are responsible for, and under what process/guidelines these blocking actions occurred under? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 14:32, 9 February 2021 (EST)

Why I made a proposal for a process to handle complaints

• User:Northwest is not an Admin.
• User:Northwest made a conscious decision to edit war with a Sysop.
• Conservapedia Guidelines, written in November 2006, state:

• You should discuss changes made by an Administrator before reverting their edits.
• Do not revert an Administrator's changes.

• User:Northwest made a complaint on Andy's talk page against User:RobSmith alleging "abuse of power".
• The facts clearly show that User:RobSmith was acting within Administrative Guidelines, first issuing warnings, then issuing short term blocks for User:Northwest's unrepentant violations of site policy and guidelines.

I proposed a discussion on establishing a regular process where a user with a complaint against an Admin could have their allegations vetted by other users to establish the facts of a case. Under my proposal, only an Admin could bring a complaint against another Admin to Andy, while users and assistant sysops would need to have their allegations vetted by other users first.

Under the current process, anybody's sockpuppet can harass and troll Administrators and troll User:Aschlafly's talk page with unmeritted allegations. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:53, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Careful what you wish for, Rob - here's what really happened:

The fact is, the whole "kangaroo court" thing (as Rob called it) is Rob's idea, not Andy's - and the only reason he wants it is to try to grab more power here and abuse it the way he has since January 27. Over that time:

• Rob started out by falsely accusing me of "trolling" for posting the truth about the illegality of the Democrats' election fraud and theft of the 2020 election, then proceeded to falsely accuse me of "racism" and "birtherism" for contributing to the questions about the legitimacy of Barack Obama's "presidency" because of him not being a natural-born citizen (which other editors here have also written about here and which has nothing to do with race - the only one seeing "racism" in the issue where there is none was Rob himself and he projected what he thinks he sees) - and that stemmed from a post he left on my talk page[10] which included a link to a Democrat-created DHS page making false implications and threats against those who question the illegal election fraud and the resulting illegitimate results, which I think may have caused him to snap and to correspondingly bend a knee to the Biden regime.
• He falsely accused both me[11] and Pokeria1[12] of being "RW trolls", even though neither of us have ever had accounts on that site and avoid it like the plague as the crackpot liberal site it is.
• He unjustly blocked me five times for questioning what he did, for standing up to him and calling him out on his abuse of power and for advising him to drop the issue (one of those blocks was undone by Karajou, who correctly called Rob's actions what it is[13]) and he engaged in insubordination by unblocking himself every time Karajou blocked him for incivility and insubordination; when Karajou told him on his talk page to behave himself and to stop with his power grab, Rob responded by again engaging in incivility (an issue he has a history of and which often got him blocked earlier in his editing career here[14]) by making a snarky edit targeting Karajou.
• He falsely accused me of "flaming"[15] when, in fact, he started the flame war himself by leaving his original post on my talk page and escalating it when I questioned him about that post. He also falsely accused me of being a "right-wing extremist"[16] - a term of abuse against conservatives that only liberals use.
• As part of his abuse of power, he continually hid my comments calling out his actions with the warning template to prevent others from seeing them in plain view, ignoring that by hiding my comments, he engaged in censorship because he does not like what I had to say - and only liberals engage in censorship of comments they don't like (as they do on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube). Plus, by his hiding my comments, it makes it look like Rob has something to hide - but in doing so, it only makes himself look bad. He also continued to falsely accuse me of "trolling" for calling out his recent actions and behavior (and as a means of getting a dig in on me, he made an edit on the Conservapedia:Trolling page, then locked the page immediately afterward to prevent its reversion).
• While bringing attention to his "kangaroo court" idea, he resorted to making appeals to other posters to try to get them on his side about his idea, yet he saw fit to revert a post I made to Yeschayi explaining Rob's actions and behavior of late, [17] them claimed it was "flaming" and threatened to unjustly block me for it.
• He falsely accused me of being a "sock" of another admin on this site[18][19] and he also engaged in snarky, childish and uncivil comments against me in his edits[20] and locked his talk page immediately afterward as a means of last wordism while he played the "victim" when he got called out on his abusive behavior after provoking me and other editors.
• When called out on his actions and behavior, he pretended ignorance of same.[21][22]
• He has been unjustly critical and snarky about those admins and sysops who go out of their way to prevent trolls and their sock accounts from doing damage to this site with their vandalism[23] and he does not take the sysops' efforts seriously.[24]

And that, Rob, is why you got stripped of your admin and sysop powers and why you were initially blocked from editing here after that. Northwest (talk) 19:14, 10 February 2021 (EST)

• Did you revert a sysop? Simple question. Did you violate site policy in reverting a sysop?

• And how many times did you revert a sysop after warnings not to? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:09, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And how many times did YOU revert a sysop? Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

You were engaged in abuse of power and you also engaged in accusing me of what you yourself were guilty of (in addition to everything else listed above). I saw that, so did Karajou - that's why your edits were undone, which you then went out of your way to revert in defiance while you engaged in insubordination, and that's part of why you were stripped of your powers by Andy. Add to that your incivility edits against Karajou after that[25][26] and that's also why you got blocked (and should've stayed blocked). Northwest (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2021 (EST)

• No more bluster. The fact that you feel you can violate site policy with impunity leads me to believe you are a sockpuppet and not a bona fide user. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:20, 10 February 2021 (EST)

False accusations aren't going to do you any good here, Rob. I'm not the one violating site policy here either, you did (which I made sure to document in my original reply to your first post here). Northwest (talk) 20:23, 10 February 2021 (EST)

• You are not an Admin. Did you or did you not violate site policy by edit warring with an Admin? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:31, 11 February 2021 (EST)

YOU engaged in edit warring with an Admin. Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

A deceptive and misleading statement. Never once did I edit war with an Admin as a non-Admin. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:31, 11 February 2021 (EST)

• My proposal would restrict non-bona fide users from trolling Andy's talk page with bogus complaints against Admins. Period. If User:Karajou alleges I abused my sysop rights, User:Karajou can make a complaint to Andy, not someone who amply demonstrated contempt for CP site rules such as User:Northwest RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:32, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And that's exactly what I did, against an individual who amply demonstrated contempt for CP site rules. Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

That's what YOU did? [27] Are you admitting now that Northwest is your sockpuppet and you are using sockpuppets to troll other CP Admins? 17:34, 11 February 2021 (EST)

You're ignoring the points that I made in my previous posts, Rob, and it's not going to do you any good here. Northwest (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2021 (EST)

• You evidently don't understand the difference between a content dispute and policy or process discussion. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:59, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Tread lightly, Rob - sounds more like that's exactly what you're doing here yourself, confusing the two. Northwest (talk) 21:07, 10 February 2021 (EST)

I'll take your bait. The subhead reads "process", you posted a few thousand bytes related, not to a process, but the substance of a dispute. Why can't you address the process issues here? Does a non-Admin ever have a right to edit war with an Admin? If so, what is the non-Admin's recourse if they feel abused? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:20, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Does an Admin feel like he can edit war with another Admin, and treat that Admin with utter contempt, as if he was a newly-minted Bureaucrat? Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Funny that you mention that when that's exactly what you did (i.e. start an edit war as well as a flame war, starting with your original post at my talk page) during your power trip, your abuse of power and your own display of contempt for Conservapedia site rules here over those few days before you were stripped of your powers. All that does is make what you're posting here now look hypocritical, as well as being disruptive of the normal work to be done here. Northwest (talk) 21:29, 10 February 2021 (EST)

An Admin's job is not to be merely a hall monitor with a hand gun. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:30, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Dismissive of you to make such a comment, considering that's exactly what you did against me during those few days with those five unjust blocks and your abuse of power in doing so. Northwest (talk) 21:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Now you're getting redundant again again. You showed no bona fides in your edit warring with a sysop and blatant site violations. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:01, 10 February 2021 (EST)

YOU showed no bona fides in your own edit warring with a sysop and your own blatant site violations. Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

An Admin's job in addition to protecting the site from trolls and vandals is to work with editors to make them better editors. I don't see you working with editors, me or other editors to help term. I see a hostile attitude creating a hostile editing environment. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:09, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And your own hostility doesn't matter? Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

The trolls and vandals in question who come here have no interest in being "better editors", they're only interested in vandalizing this site and making mischief every time they show up here. By you claiming otherwise and ignoring what they do, you're basically siding with those same trolls and doing nothing to stop them while you falsely attack those who actually try to keep this site from being taken over and ruined by racist, anti-Semitic, foul-mouthed and generally immature trolls and vandals.

Moreover, you yourself fostered the hostile environment with your own hostile attitude here (including incivility and abuse of your power), and you're not doing yourself any favors either with your false accusations, your projection of your own actions and your refusal to take responsibility for them. Northwest (talk) 22:19, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Now your making false allegations, again. Your bluster and hijacking a process proposal to deal with complaints, again, is trolling behavior. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:29, 10 February 2021 (EST)

You're not making yourself look good here with your own false allegations and projection of same (as well as your projection of your own trolling behavior and your dismissive reply to what I told you before), Rob. You'd do well to quit now while you're behind. Northwest (talk) 22:37, 10 February 2021 (EST)

(ec) And what a joke your claims are. I have evidence just since my de-sysopping of YOU working with at least two trolls from said vandal site. There's probably more if I reviewed your editing closer. The trolls have done a tremendously effective job in their deception of you. But it appears you have little interest in evidence and facts. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:40, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And we have plenty of evidence that before you were de-sysoped that you were more interested in protecting RW-created socks on this site - socks YOU identified as such - then you were in getting rid of them. Karajou (talk) 05:09, 11 February 2021 (EST)

I gave you a list. You unblocked one and are currently collaborating with another. You have not blocked a single user account on that list, as you promised or boasted that you would. 17:39, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Give it up, Rob, you're only digging yourself in deeper with your false accusations and your rants. Northwest (talk) 17:41, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Congrats, Rob - not only are you again making false accusations and libelling (as well as just plain lying), you yourself are showing no interest in facts or evidence and displaying interest only in being disruptive here. Every time you do this, you keep showing why Andy was right to de-sysop you and you're acting bitter over it. Northwest (talk) 22:45, 10 February 2021 (EST)

(ec) Reverting trolling vandalism and blocking the j.d. is the easy part. Ferreting out bad information contributed by alleged "good faith" users over many years nobody but me pays attention to. How did the Senate Hit List, which made national news occur? No.1, I was inactive at the time; No.2 those who boast of protecting the site paid ZERO attention to a page that was created and edited over many months, when the page title itself was a giveaway of trolling activity. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:47, 10 February 2021 (EST)

You're still not making a case for yourself here, Rob, and you're only trying to distract and deflect from the bad behavior that you yourself engaged in during that past week before your de-sysoping (which looks akin to what the Democrats have done and been doing to distract from their own crimes over time). Northwest (talk) 22:55, 10 February 2021 (EST)

(ec) The Senate Hit List was 10 years ago when efforts to paint conservatives and conservative internet users as rightwing extremists nobody took seriously, but me. You think the problem has improved since? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:56, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And yet you saw fit to falsely call me exactly that in one of your posts[28] (which, as I pointed out, only liberals use as a term of abuse against conservatives), so you're not exactly standing on solid ground here. Northwest (talk) 23:06, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Are you defending the Senate Hit List now?

Did anyone raise on the talk page or in the private sysop discussion group what the point of a page "Democrat senators with Republican governors" was? Who would monitor and update it every two years in perpetuity? Did anyone engage the trolls to ask? Did anyone monitor the trolls other activities? Did anyone ever express a hint of suspicion?

I guess not. CP Admins were just relieved they weren't writing profanity or doing j.d. trolling, they didn't have to block and revert, so they allowed them to go about their activity. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:12, 10 February 2021 (EST)

IOWs. RW trolls knew 10 years ago CP Admin were never properly trained to defend against trolling activity, and they exploited the opportunity. What has changed since? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:15, 10 February 2021 (EST)

I wasn't even around at the time of that article in question, so you're asking the wrong person here. Sorry, you missed again. Northwest (talk) 23:17, 10 February 2021 (EST)

I personally confronted Mr. Trent Toulouse about his involvement in Rationalwiki in the Spring of 2010 in various Wikipedia forums after the Senate Hit List with enough evidence to get him permabanned from Wikipedia. He has been relatively inactive in Wikipedia ever since. Am I looking for thanks? Am I looking for glory? No. But you can kiss off with your bogus bulltwinkies. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:24, 10 February 2021 (EST)

As I said, I wasn't even here on Conservapedia at the time of that article (I didn't join until 2012, shortly after I first heard of this site) and I never heard of RW until first finding out about it via its since-deleted article here some time after, so you're really not doing yourself any favors (or making yourself look rational) with your false accusations or your incivility. Just drop the issue and let it go, Rob - you'll be doing yourself a favor in the long run. Northwest (talk) 23:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Thank you. Did you hear that everybody? User:Northwest admits he doesn't have a clue what he is talking about. We'll chalk it up to a lack of information on your part rather than a violation of site policy and trolling a CP Admin. 23:39, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Congrats, Rob, you're only making yourself look worse and worse each time you post now (and you're still accusing me of what you yourself are doing and still acting uncivil). Northwest (talk) 23:48, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Inserted for the record: Talk:Conservapedia/Archive 15#Some form of mediation. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:13, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Vetting sources in a content dispute

Northwest, you wrote about Obama: "because of him not being a natural-born citizen".

At Conservapedia, you cannot definitively state that Obama was not a natural born citizen because there is no definitive/absolute/direct proof to that effect. The best you can do is point out that certain sources/people suspect that Obama was not a natural born citizen for X, Y, Z, etc. reasons. If you are definitively insisting that Obama was not a natural born citizen in articles, please stop. In many cases, historical claims are probabilistic. This is one of those cases.Conservative (talk) 20:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Right, there is a thousand ways to insert disclaimers, "evidence suggests", "some people say", "according to unnamed sources" etc. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:43, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Oh, really? Take a look at this[29] and this[30] (starting at 5:49) and you tell me. Northwest (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2021 (EST)

"According to the Washington Standard". What is so difficult about that? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:56, 10 February 2021 (EST)

So in other words, you want to do exactly as Pokeria1 does not want to see happen[31][32] by taking Conservapedia in a more leftist direction via "neutrality". Sorry, no dice. Northwest (talk) 21:03, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Duh, look at the subheading above. We are discussing vetting content in this section, not policy or ideology. If you care to discuss you false accusations (a blockable offense according to you), create a new discussion subheading. Disrupting this thread with impertinent allegations is called "trolling". RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:13, 10 February 2021 (EST)

And again, you're falsely accusing me of what you yourself are guilty of doing. That and your further incivility in your replies isn't getting you anywhere here. Northwest (talk) 21:18, 10 February 2021 (EST)

bla bla bla. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:21, 10 February 2021 (EST)

Watch it, Rob - your incivility and your attitude toward other editors who call your behavior out got you blocked by other admins before, what makes you think this time will be different? Northwest (talk) 21:32, 10 February 2021 (EST)

I am not promoting some kind of faux neutrality. I am merely saying that we cannot state something with certainty where there is no certainty. For example, a computer expert examined the allegations that Obama's online long form birth certificate was a fraud and concluded it was likely not a fraud.[33]

So what I am advocating is not cherry picking evidence and excluding evidence/conclusions arbitrarily because it goes against our wishes. See: Fallacy of exclusion.Conservative (talk) 07:08, 14 February 2021 (EST)

Theory about RobS

Just a theory: RobS has a fixed idea to either rescue someone who's in trouble or fix a mistake he made. If that's true Rob, there's no need to charge ahead against us; you're among friends.

There's an oracle that reads:

If you are sincere, you have success in your heart,

And whatever you do succeeds.

Richard Wilhelm explains:

Through repetition of danger we grow accustomed to it. Water sets the example for the right conduct under such circumstances. It flows on and on, and merely fills up all the places where it flows; it does not shrink from any dangerous spot nor from any plunge, and nothing can make it lose its own essential nature. It remains true to itself under all conditions. Thus, likewise, if one is sincere when confronted with difficulties, the heart can penetrate the meaning of the situation. And once we have gained inner mastery of a problem, it will come about naturally that the action we take will succeed. In danger all that counts is really carrying out all that has to be done--thoroughness--and going forward, in order not to perish through tarrying in the danger.

Properly used, danger can have an important meaning as a protective measure. Thus heaven has its perilous height protecting it against every attempt at invasion, and earth has its mountains and bodies of water, separating countries by their dangers. Thus also rulers make use of danger to protect themselves against attacks from without and against turmoil within.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 22:43, 10 February 2021 (EST)

The presence of RW trolls

The presence of what now is called "RW trolls" in Consevpadia has been ongoing since before RW was founded. I was blocked by one of its chief organizers from the Wikien-1 mailing list in 2004 when he was Moderator there. From 2007 to 2012 I spent much time investigating and identifying its founders and chief organizers. In doing so, I was accused of colluding with them.

In that same span of time, whenever I have tried to bring what information I discovered to the CP private mail list, I was accused of being sympathetic or in collusion with them. So I remained silent on much of the broad outlines. Meanwhile, their activities have gone unchecked.

The RationalkMediaFoundation in fact is in violation of U.S. tax laws, with trustees residing outside the United States elected by non-transparent and rigged elections. But who cares? If I attempt to share this information with User:Karajou I am only accused of being an RW troll.

Meantime, their activities such as was seen in the Senate Hit List, have gone unabated. But evidence now suggests User:Karajou is using sockpuppets to troll CP Admins, rather than focus on Rationalwiki which made a fool out of him with the Senate Hit List. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:55, 11 February 2021 (EST)

"Evidence" which you falsely claim, along with the other false accusations you've been throwing around, in order to smear Karajou and other editors here out of vindictive bitterness as revenge for your being de-sysoped for your abuses of power and corruption. The more you post in connection with what you're doing to deflect from your own actions, Rob, the worse and more desperate you only make yourself look. Northwest (talk) 18:03, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Conclusion

Within the past two months the following has happened:

• The revelation was made of RW-created socks within the site.
• User Amorrow was blocked for malicious behavior; RobSmith called the block unjust, and based it on "asking for additional privileges".
• RobSmith was asked to release the names of these socks. He was asked to removed these socks. He refused, calling it a case of "whack-a-mole".
• RobSmith acted as an Admin with a bully club, beating down any who opposed his authority, threatened others with blocking if they cited his abusive behavior, and blocked Northwest for exactly that reason.
• Treated user Karajou as someone less than a sysop and Admin, seeing fit to issue a warning on his talk page about "interfering in sysop communications".
• Sought additional powers for himself, to include bureaucrat privileges.
• Proposed a dangerous kangaroo court for the site, whose purpose is the passing of a verdict against anyone, the "trial" being a mere formality.
• Stated directly to me in a private email that his purpose for all of the above was to get rid of me from the site.

As I stated before, the only thing that made any sense for this whole episode is a power grab, with RobSmith directly controlling the site his way, and not by policies laid down in 2006. The protection of these RW sock accounts gives credence to the theory that RobSmith may have been acting in concert with one of them, with the possibility of a hostile takeover away from the site's owner. Andy was informed of all of the above from the beginning, and made the appropriate moves necessary to prevent such from taking place. Karajou (talk) 05:27, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Response:

• The revelation of RW-created socks may be a Revelation to User:Karajou, however User:RobSmith has been trying to call this to CP leadership's attention now for 10 years, in which I enjoyed a 3 year block for attempting to do so, in addition to being called an RW troll.
• User:Amorrow was blocked for doxxing, at which User:Karajou first denied and now admits. Conclusion: User:Karajou didn't know what doxxing is until I forced the issue.
• RobSmith gave a list of known active RW trolls to Karajou; Karajou proceeded to unblock one and collaborate with others. He hasn't blocked a single account on that list.
• "beating down any who opposed his authority", on its face a false statement. One asst sysop received 2 one hour blocks and a few other blocks not exceeding 2 hours; by contrast, User:Karajou unjustly blocked Liberlatears for a year without any cause whatsoever and blocked me for a year when his arbitrariness was called into question.
• "threatened others with blocking if they cited his abusive behavior" - a totally false statement with no evidence.
• User:Karajou did in fact interfere in communications between two CP Admins.
• User:RobSmith asked for bureaucrat powers to rein in abuses by Karajou - a decision User:RobSmith has no power over whatsoever and totally up to Mr. Andy Schlalfy. And Mr. Schalafly has in fact handed out user rights by request in the past. There is absolutely no prohibition against asking for enhanced user rights on Conservapedia, and asking for the rights is not a policy violation or cause for blocking, as User:Karajou contends.
• User:RobSmith has no power or authority to establish a Kangaroo Court. A decision to do so is Mr. Schlafly's. User:Karajou inhibited discussion on presenting a proposal to Mr. Schlafly.
• I told Karajou I deemed his arbitrary judgment to be detrimental to the site, and that he personally needed leadership and training on how to exercise the powers of a Sysop. Only in his paranoid imagination did he read that as "get rid of me". RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:00, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Forget it, Rob. Again, you're trying in desperation to deflect from and cover for your own wrongdoing (while refusing to accept responsibility for same) by throwing accusations at anyone else you see fit (including more false accusations by you of me being another admin's "sock") in a desperate act of whataboutism - and you also lie and deny when you claim that there is "no evidence" that you unjustly threatened me with blocking for calling out your abuse of power - this[34], this[35], this[36] and this[37] prove otherwise. Northwest (talk) 17:36, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Don't try to deflect. Your trolling edits on my talk were reverted. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:41, 11 February 2021 (EST)

No actually, you yourself are the one doing the deflecting with your false accusations against other editors and admins and your projection of what you yourself are doing. Calling out your abuse of power is not "trolling", but what you're doing here (including your snide and uncivil remarks), even now, is. Northwest (talk) 17:44, 11 February 2021 (EST)

Gathering the facts

Why did RobS call for a Kangaroo court? Was he being sarcastic? And why is it expected that RobS has to use propositional speech to make his case, but Northwest is only required to post links? Do better, Northwest. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 08:38, 12 February 2021 (EST)

I guess I'm no longer a part of Conservapedia. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 00:15, 13 February 2021 (EST)

We'll see. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 06:30, 13 February 2021 (EST)

RobS gave the proposed court a proposed name which was problematic. Anyways, it is a moot point. Andy does not like the court idea.Conservative (talk) 17:21, 15 February 2021 (EST)

Please give RobSmith his "edit" tag back

Hi Andy, can you at least please give RobSmith back his "edit" tag? Sometimes all CP editing right now is restricted to "Administrators, edit", and you removed that user right when desysoping him. Thanks! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 15:13, 15 February 2021 (EST)

Done. Please let me know if that fixes the problem. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:35, 15 February 2021 (EST)

Thank you very much! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 15:42, 15 February 2021 (EST)

I am back.

I ended up going semi inactive for a few days to do stuff, I’m back now. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 20:31, 16 February 2021 (EST)

Welcome back!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:41, 16 February 2021 (EST)

I thought you would be interested in this

An American, conservative, Christian law school won a international moot court contest.[38] They receive no federal funding. And they beat the American Ivy League law schools.Conservative (talk) 19:43, 19 February 2021 (EST)

That happened back in 2016. But thanks for mentioning it.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:45, 19 February 2021 (EST)

About:Royalty Templates

I think there should be a template for royals/kings. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 23:43, 19 February 2021 (EST)

That's a great idea! Perhaps this is something I can help with collaborating on since I've used/improved infoboxes and mostly understand the {{#if:}} and {{#ifeq:}} parser functions. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 23:50, 19 February 2021 (EST)

Northwest and Karajou

How long do I have to put up with this trolling by the tag team of Northwest and Karajou? Exhibit 1

How long to we have to put up with your lies, your false accusations, and your contemptible behavior? You sit there and accuse the rest of us of doing that which you yourself have engaged in on this website, twice, and you want to paint yourself as the victim in all of this. I for one, am not going to have you point a finger of blame at me or anyone else for that which you have caused. Karajou (talk) 05:57, 20 February 2021 (EST)

Exhibit 2. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 06:30, 20 February 2021 (EST)

You're only making yourself look more and more foolish every time you do this, Rob - as well as proving what I said about your actions right (which was why you deleted my posts that you linked, a sign that you still don't like what I have to say regarding your behavior and that you refuse to take responsibility for your wrongdoing). What I don't get here is why User:Conservative keeps unblocking you after you get blocked for your incivility, because Conservative himself has also been victimized by unjust blocks by you in the past[39] (including one from 2011 for a false claim of "trolling" made by you, based on a post he first made to Andy on his talk page[40] regarding your well-documented history of the behavior you're currently engaged in, going back to that time and before). Northwest (talk) 17:35, 20 February 2021 (EST)

We've heard enough of your Stalag 17, Hogan's Heroes, and Three Stooges Hollywood Values; look what it's done for Conservapedia just since February 5. [41] RobS^{Free Kyle!} 12:08, 21 February 2021 (EST)

The fights and division and hatred YOU CAUSED are responsible for that. No one wants to come to a website and see that kind of behavior. Karajou (talk) 15:34, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Don't you have a game of Donkey Kong to attend to? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:36, 21 February 2021 (EST)

You're going to have to deal with some aspects of life, RobSmith. One of them is you cannot blame others for your own problems. Karajou (talk) 15:43, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Thank you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:54, 21 February 2021 (EST)

You're only proving Karajou's point, Rob. Don't push your luck here. Northwest (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Similarweb, which is more reliable than Alexa, says traffic is up for Conservapedia since December 20, 2020.[42]

People primarily go to wiki for mainspace content. Talk page disputes receive a small sliver of page views compared to mainspace content.

Andy does not want RobS blocked as he creates a lot of content that people want to read.Conservative (talk) 15:48, 21 February 2021 (EST)

What's missing at the moment are links from MPR to new, fresh, and timely content. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:52, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Only problem with that, Conservative, is that RobS is now causing more problems for this site with his incivility, disruptiveness and bad behavior here than he is contributing anything of worth here. By refusing to allow RobS to be blocked to punish him to send a message about his conduct here, all that does is further encourage his behavior and send a message that he's being "protected" no matter how bad his behavior is, which is a bad message to send - and of all people, you (also a victim of unjust blocks by RobS in the past) should know not to encourage that from him - just saying. Northwest (talk) 18:58, 21 February 2021 (EST)

I've been involved in my share of internet disputes over the years, but this is the most ridiculous ever. I'm accused of being Peter Graves in Stalag 17. Honestly, I don't even know how to respond, so I haven't really paid much attention. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:12, 21 February 2021 (EST)

And Northwest. Please, stop trolling me with another ridiculous response. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:14, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Karajou compared his role as a Conservapedia Admin to that of a prisoner in a Nazi concentration camp. Honestly, and I address this to you, Andy, how do you in a sane mind respond to that? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:21, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Pointing out the truth to you is not "trolling", Rob - and you were the one who started this whole mess to begin with, so all of this is on you. The sooner you realize that and you cut it with your incivility and snark, the better off you'll be. Northwest (talk) 19:25, 21 February 2021 (EST)

I have no idea what you are talking about. Above I asked you stop trolling me and addressed my question to Andy. Your response here by definition is trolling. Nuff said. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:27, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Every time you continue to post regarding this, Rob, you only further prove not only my point, but the points of everyone else here who's spoken out against your behavior and your projection (and simultaneous denial) of same on the rest of us here. You seriously need to smarten up and behave yourself because you can't continue acting like you think you can say whatever you please here with impunity, then play the "victim" when you get called out for it. Northwest (talk) 19:31, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Is that your view, too, that you share with Karajou? that CP Admins are locked up in a Nazi concentration camp? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:37, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Your opinion and yours alone, Rob - and you're only further proving my point about how you're acting here. Northwest (talk) 19:39, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Karajou shared his Hollywood values on the email list. Want me to quote it verbatim? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:42, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Karajou compared life in Conservapedia to life in a Nazi Stalag. When I said he blew a gasket,. Andy de-sysoped me 2 minutes later. This is a problem for Andy to deal with, not you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:45, 21 February 2021 (EST)

And you brought that on yourself, so you have only yourself and your behavior to blame for that. Deal with it. Northwest (talk) 19:48, 21 February 2021 (EST)

(ec) I can't think of a better example of Hollywood values corrupting a person's mind than Karajou's own admission on the private email list of making moral judgments about other human beings inspired by a Hollywood movie. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:50, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Seriously, you're not doing yourself any favors here (and it sound like whatever it was Karajou said, you're intentionally twisting it out of context to suit your purposes because you're still acting bitter about being desysoped - which only makes yourself look bad here). Northwest (talk) 19:55, 21 February 2021 (EST)

From: <karajou[redacted]> Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1:48 AM

To: [All]

There is a scene in one of my favorite movies. Halfway through "Stalag 17" a sergeant named Sefton has been accused of working for the Germans as a stoolie, and got his ass beat by the other POWs. So he finds out just who the real culprit was, and as he sits with a possibly former buddy, he asks a very serious question:

"Suppose he's not an American at all. Suppose he's a German the krauts had planted here? Eating our food, sharing our bunks, in with those who beat me up, only he beat hardest."

You, RobSmith, based upon your behaviour this past month, in which everyone can see within the Slack group and Conservapedia itself, are not a conservative at all. You're a liberal...."

Pure comedy. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:02, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Let me continue: Then I am repeatedly accused of "making demands" and blocked for "false accusations", yet not once have I ever "made a demand", and I dare anyone to find a diff from ANYWHERE of me "making a demand". Will Karajou block himself for "making false accusations"? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:12, 21 February 2021 (EST)

More comedy. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:13, 21 February 2021 (EST)

And you just proved my point again (as well as his). You're not doing yourself any good by continuing to pursue this instead of dropping it and letting it go, because you're only making yourself look bad in the process. Northwest (talk) 20:15, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Yeah, and besides, last I checked this sounds like a demand. Pokeria1 (talk) 20:21, 21 February 2021 (EST)

That is a Sysop Warning (which incidentally is the job of a Sysop). I am speaking specifically about making alleged "demands" to Andy and other Conservapedia Admins. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:24, 21 February 2021 (EST)

<digression>Just for the yuks, I watched that clip from Stalag 17; they all have what my parents called "Beatle's haircuts" and looked like dang hippies. So much for historical accuracy. The same sort of Hollywood inspiration that comes from watching reruns of Hogan's Heroes starring that amateur pornography producer who was mysteriously murdered. But if my old man, who fought in the 2nd Marine Division at Iwo Jima calls it a "Beatle's haircut", I'll take his word for it over Karajou's. If this is the sort of evidence Karajou presents in a kangaroo court of anti-American and treasonous activity, and the sitting magistrate renders judgment, so be it. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:37, 21 February 2021 (EST)

Three things: one, everyone saw my email regarding Stalag 17, and the comparison I made was to Rob being an RW mole within the site, much like the Peter Graves character being a Nazi mole in the movie. Two, the film was made long before the Beatles got their silly haircuts, let alone the rockstars they became. Three, you're not an admin anymore, for reasons which you have been told many, many times. Karajou (talk) 04:27, 22 February 2021 (EST)

So is it your testimony that CP Admins are like prisoners in a Nazi Stalag based upon a Hollywood movie, and their actions and suspicions should be guided as such. And secondly, the rights of the accused should be afforded the same due process that Jamie Raskin, Erik Swalwell, and Nancy Pelosi afforded to President Trump? Let's clear the air on these issues. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 05:05, 22 February 2021 (EST)

Donald Trump

The Donald Trump page has been the target of trolling for the past 24 hours. [43][44][45][46][47] Perhaps a short term page protect is in order. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:55, 23 February 2021 (EST)

Here's my proposal: anyone with the "protect" tag should create a user subpage with "/Donald Trump" in the end with the content being "{{:Donald Trump}}" and protect it so that the "cascading" option is turned on. That way, if I understand correctly, the "Donald Trump" page can be edited by those with the "protect" tag and not just administrators due to cascading protection settings. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Wednesday, 23:13, 23 February 2021 (EST)

Here's your list [48] At least 1 is LANCB. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:19, 23 February 2021 (EST)

While clever, LT's suggestion wouldn't give any different tier of protection...it would just attach the protection on that user's subpage to the Trump article. The only protection level I can currently apply does absolutely nothing, as currently configured.

Short-term protection might be a good idea, but it would need to be at the Admin level (which I can't do). However, vandalism on that page hasn't been too bad. --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 23:57, 23 February 2021 (EST)

Protected it for a week. Thanks for the suggestion.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:15, 24 February 2021 (EST)

re: Michael Farris Debates Andy Schlafly in New Jersey

I saw your opening argument in the Michael Farris vs. Andy Schlafly debate.[49]

You laid out superb arguments against having a constitution convention. After you laid out your main arguments, I didn't even both to watch the entire debate. What could Farris possibly say in reply to your opening arguments that could overcome them. Nothing!Conservative (talk) 01:23, 26 February 2021 (EST)

Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:18, 26 February 2021 (EST)

Templates

I've just been informed that only Admins can create Templates. After watching Josh Hawley's CPAC speech, the idea came to create an Template:Oligarchy Template. Without action from you, this may be a lost opportunity. Thanks. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:23, 27 February 2021 (EST)

Fixed this issue for you. It should work now.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:49, 27 February 2021 (EST)

Now hold on, why is editing templates suddenly restricted? This never occurred before. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 22:01, 27 February 2021 (EST)

Templates can create trolling content over many pages, so their editing needs to be watched closely. Typically, the Template page itself is locked after creation, while others still can make changes or additions to the Template displayed on pages, which needs monitoring. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:11, 27 February 2021 (EST)

In response to Liberaltears, editing Templates works now.--Trumpsupporter (talk) 22:20, 27 February 2021 (EST)

I believe that's because Andy gave you the tag; I don't have it. The problem now is that a whole bunch of editors who aren't administrators won't be able to create/edit templates. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 22:34, 27 February 2021 (EST)

Can you try to create a template now? I think it should work.Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:28, 27 February 2021 (EST)--

I can't think of any particular templates that need to be created right now, but editing them works now. Thank you Andy! —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 23:59, 27 February 2021 (EST)

I want to do an Oligarchy Template. Josh Hawley laid out a good line of attack with that term today. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 00:02, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Hello.

What is the upload permission? Is it an earned role? --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 12:08, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Yes, it is an earned privilege. Your account is getting close to that additional privilege!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:55, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Thank you for letting me know, you are always a good helper. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2021 (EST)

By the way, until you get there, you can request image uploads here: Conservapedia:Image upload requests (CP:IUR). It might be a slow process, but at least it gives you options. --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 23:22, 28 February 2021 (EST)

hi

how are you --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 18:07, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Building traffic

This site ranks: 150,892 In global internet traffic and engagement over the past 90 days

Country Alexa Rank United States 61,140

New multi-year lows. All the traffic I built up in January, when the US rank rose to 33,000, has been wiped out. There is no incentive to produce as long as I can continue to be harassed and trolled. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:12, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Dear Rob; You are not being harassed. You are however, according to what I have read, bringing up an old bone. The last time was the 22nd, today is the 28th, a week later. Let it pass.Cazle (talk) 19:09, 28 February 2021 (EST)

I'm done. I have been harassed and will continue to be harassed. There's no sense in continuing under these circumstances.

It took all year last year to get CP as #20,000 in the U.S. by election day, with 33K unique daily visitors. It fell off afterwards, which was to be expected. It fell to #63,000 by New Years with the loss of 6K unique daily visitors over those two months, November and December. In January, throughout the Capitol riot and impeachment, I fought back to raise it to #33,000. Once the trolling began, and five days after my desysoping, CP lost an additional 4K unique daily visitors in 5 days. I built that audience of readership through MPR.

This is not the first time I've witnessed changes in numbers like this. The idiotic assertion that I'm some character in a Hollywood movie about World War II, and the absolute refusal of me being able to defend myself or state my case is more than enough. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:37, 28 February 2021 (EST)

• 1. I had nothing to do with any of that, if you haven't checked, I'm new here.
• 2. You don't need to quit. I don't want you to quit, and as a Christian, thinking of other Christians, I don't think the others really want you to leave either.
• 3. I am not harassing you, I was simply asking that you invoke some forgiveness, as is the Christian manner; to let the issue pass, and trouble not your soul.Cazle (talk) 19:59, 28 February 2021 (EST)

No. It's not you at all. I didn't mean to create any impression like that. I'm speaking of the trolling of me which has made me incapable of responding to the assaults on conservatives and conservativism at this crucial moment in time. My time and influence can be better spent elsewhere rather than watching trolls being rewarded while the site itself decides to do more dumpster diving. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:26, 28 February 2021 (EST)

If you're leaving, I guess I'll soon leave as well... —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 20:36, 28 February 2021 (EST)

I was permabanned from a certain website the begins with R because allegedly tolerating my presence there was chasing away what they considered "good" editors (I did a good job of that for 14 years). While having such a policy of trading off "good editors" for "bad editors" is debatable, it's something Andy should look into. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:55, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Our traffic statistics are posted, unlike Wikipedia, and the numbers haven't changed much recently. Alexa measures traffic by people who use Alexa. But I don't want quarreling among editors and I've added a ban on editors disparaging themselves to the Commandments. Should I take any further action to try to reduced the bickering?--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:06, 28 February 2021 (EST)

The bickering began with bogus, redundant complaints on your talk page, which you have never allowed me to respond to. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:10, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Conservapedia:Trolling is defined as:

• employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users or to distract them from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions.

Read this thread from your own talk page [50] and tell me if it doesn't consist of "employing redundant arguments" over and over again, spread over at least two other pages by the same accuser? And where have I ever been allowed to respond? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:16, 28 February 2021 (EST)

Will we get any new infobox’s soon?

We need something like an infobox royalty for Kings/Queens/Tsars. --Yeschayi ~ Talk (talk) 20:57, 1 March 2021 (EST)

What caused upload perms to be an earned permission.

Was it the trolls and vandals? --Yeschayoise the editor (talk) 22:34, 3 March 2021 (EST)

That's been the longtime policy for more than ten years. It is similar to and consistent with other privileges that are earned.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:05, 3 March 2021 (EST)

Ok. --Yeschayoise the editor (talk) 23:12, 3 March 2021 (EST)

Hi.

Hi Andy. --Yeschayi (talk) 18:52, 23 March 2021 (EDT

Your joke about Bruce Springsteen in your Conservapedia article "Mystery: Does God have a sense of humor?" was very funny.

Your joke about Bruce Springsteen in your Conservapedia article Mystery:Does God Have a Sense of Humor? was very funny. It made me laugh.

Politics: within weeks after Barack Obama was sworn in as president in 2009, Obama-supporter Bruce Springsteen was the half-time performer at the Super Bowl. His most famous song is "Born in the U.S.A.," but he did not even perform it, presumably because that is an unwanted controversy about Obama.Conservative (talk) 08:15, 25 March 2021 (EDT)

Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:15, 25 March 2021 (EDT)

Please give your feedback on my updating of the civility portion of the Conservapedia guidelines

Andy, please give your feedback on my updating the civility portion of the Conservapedia guidelines.

"For content disputes, be reasonable and make every effort to use an article's talk page to have a cordial and constructive dialogue. Stick to the facts in content disputes and back up your facts with a source or sources. If you are proposing alternative content, it must be sourced. Avoid bringing up irrelevant past disputes with editors and stick to the content dispute at hand. Do not engage in personal attacks. If you have a content dispute with another editor, do not immediately post to the other editor's personal talk page. The article talk pages is where the vast majority of discussion should take place. Avoid unnecessary content disputes by sourcing your article content."

I believe this will help Conservapedia be a more civil place. In addition, it gives ground rules for discussions that will help resolve disputes between editors more amicably.

Do you agree that my addition to the civility portion of the Conservapedia guidelines is useful?Conservative (talk) 04:28, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

Excellent. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:05, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

Request to Aschlafly (Talk page edit)

Hello Aschlafly. I have been in contact with one of the other admins, DavidB4 , via email and he referred me to you. I am fairly new to editing Conservapedia, with only a few days of experience, however, I have a lot of experience in editing websites like Conservapedia. I am actually a well known Wikipedia editor (mentioned by Breitbart News, Law Enforcement Today, and recently WiseScience.info). My user page has some more details on my Wikipedia editing history and why the news organizations made stories on me. My timezone is Eastern Standard Time, and normally I don't get a chance to edit a lot until the night time due to my irl life (High School student). So far on Conservapedia, I have started a dozen articles and started a project (See Conservapedia:Project Current Events.) and I only started editing Conservapedia less than a week ago. I hope you can see that I only want to improve Conservapedia, so I would like to request the nighttime editing user-right permission. Thank you for your time and consideration into my request. --Elijahandskip (talk) 21:01, 30 March 2021 (EDT)

Thank you. I am not sure if you saw this or what the situation is, but DavidB4 emailed me and said I was granted the nighttime editing permission. So thank you (to you or Davidb4 or to whichever admin read this and decided to grant me the request). --Elijahandskip (talk) 06:45, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

That was user:Aschlafly. --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 01:01, 1 April 2021 (EDT)

Permission to block

Andy,

Do I have your consent to block this user for any length of time beginning at 10 minutes for persistent trolling and edit warring? He has stalked my page creations and contributions for 6 or 7 years, inserting some of the most outrageous nonsense.

When I issued his first official Warning in January after years of trolling, I was de-sysoped. Had I simply blocked him for 5 years sometime ago as most Admins do, he never would have been around to complain about me. Only you can lay down the law on proper interaction between users.

Per the link above, the user never addresses the content issue and makes redundant arguments three times, which is the definition of trolling per CP Guidelines. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:13, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

And once again, you're playing the "victim" and attempting to appeal to authority to get your way while making your usual false accusations of "trolling" (which originated after what you instigated back in January) over my attempts to improve the articles on this site while clearly ignoring all the wrong that you did, refusing to take responsibility for same and instigating trouble. You're clearly ignoring why Andy stripped you of your admin powers and you're also ignoring what User:Conservative proposed regarding content disputes, as you're acting thoroughly unreasonable and uncivil as well as engaging in personal attacks. Seriously, you need to drop this because the rest of us have better things to do than to deal with your issues. Northwest (talk) 01:31, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Go address the content issue which is simple: Are traffic tickets criminal offenses?

You have yet to address the content issue.

You have nonetheless expended 1,700 bytes and two hours of trolling on the Talk/Bill Gates page after edit warring.

RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:41, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

And once again with the false accusations and the projection of your own behavior after you were told to drop it and let it go. Your disruptive behavior here (and history thereof) is causing trouble in this site and is exactly why you can't be trusted in a position of authority and multiple editors, as well as Andy and User:Karajou (who you insubordinated after you were told to behave yourself and put the brakes on your power trip), have made that clear. Northwest (talk) 01:48, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

It's a choice Andy must make which will affect the future of Conservapedia. If content creators are stalked and trolls piggyback on their work with outrageous contributions, and the content creators have no recourse, they will stop creating content. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 01:55, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Seriously? Again, you're engaging in false accusations against those actually trying to improve the content of this site (and some of whom, BTW, have been far more active in eliminating actual trolls who come here to vandalize this site with lies, vulgarity, etc. than you have). You're only continuing to make yourself look bad with your continuing disruptions, attacks on others and playing of "victim" and that is of your own doing. And another thing - the content I put into the Bill Gates article which you later hid, then removed on the false "trolling" claim actually met the criteria which Conservative set out (including being sourced) and was relevant, which you chose to disregard. Northwest (talk) 02:02, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Conservapedia:Inappropriate/trolling behavior - Examples Guidelines defines trolling as:

• employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users or to distract them from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions.

In the past 72 hours here are three instances of nonsensical, unencyclopedic trolling edits in three different mainspaces.[51][52][53] None of these unencyclopedic, nonsensical trolling edits exist today, AFAIK. No one has risen to defend this trolling nonsense. This trolling in the past 12 hours alone has inhibited good faith users from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions for the entirety of today. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:38, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

That definition applies to you more than it does to NorthWest. Besides, you want ACTUAL trolling? This is trolling (which, BTW, I had removed the "edit" made by that person). If NorthWest truly was trolling, he'd behave exactly like the jerk whose post I removed. And quite frankly, I had to deal with similar comments to yours from blatant leftists on places like fourcolormedmon and discord. Pokeria1 (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

First - I dropped the Bill Gates arrest matter because I couldn't find record of that at a more reputable source. Second - that edit I'll admit could've been written better (and with the addition of sources), but it was a legit edit otherwise, not "trolling". Third - that edit is legitimate and sourced, not "trolling"; plus, you know as well as everyone else that Kamala Harris is not the legitimate or legal "vice-president". Finally - if you'd stop with the attacks, false accusations and projection of your own behavior, I wouldn't even have to respond, you see? Northwest (talk) 20:37, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

In the Kamala Harris context - User:Northwest did the same thing he did on the Jihadism page - he changed the context of the cited source to say something opposite of what the cited source says. In all three instances, NW did not follow CP Guidelines by engaging in civil discussion. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:01, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

And I already explained the situation in my previous post above - plus, I have attempted to be civil, but you repeatedly refuse to do so (and you're also proving the point I made regarding you). Northwest (talk) 21:09, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Re: edit war between NorthWest and RobS

As far as NorthWest's latest edit war with RobS, if NorthWest is going to source material, he must do better than Quora or sites like it such as Yahoo Answers. Anyone can put material on sites like Quora or Yahoo Answers. The fourth footnote for the Conservapedia Commandments indicates, "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others. No sources advocating or supporting unlawful activity of any kind are allowed."

Quora is not an authoritative work.

Under the new civility rules update that you approved, it does state editors have to properly source material in content disputes. NorthWest is not doing that in this current content dispute.

When people go to wiki websites, they want articles to be sourced with reliable sources.Conservative (talk) 09:08, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Also, my update to the civility rules says that editors cannot bring up past conflicts and must stick to the issue at hand. NorthWest wrote above: "You're only continuing to make yourself look bad with your continuing disruptions". NorthWest also wrote: "And once again with the false accusations". NorthWest is dredging up the past and not sticking to the content dispute at hand.

Andy, think about it like this. If a couple is having a dispute about a current and specific matter, how helpful is it if the wife/husband brings up something matters from the past? In most cases, it is not helpful at all. If we are going to solve the civility issue between NorthWest and RobS, both of them are bound by the reasonable update I made to the civility rules which you gave your approval to.

I made a very reasonable, clear and easy to understand updates to the civility rules. There is no excuse for violating them. Being a lawyer, I know you agree with having reasonable rules/laws in a community. The alternative is chaos which is unacceptable.Conservative (talk) 09:34, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

I know and realize that (and after not being able to find info from reputable sources regarding the Bill Gates arrest, I'll just let that matter drop). I've done my best to be civil, but RobS has repeatedly refused to abide by the civility guidelines (particularly the second section) that you laid out, was himself the one to first dredge up the false accusations of "trolling" (and projection thereof by him) against me (which forced me to defend myself) and has refused to let the issue drop. I don't have a problem with those rules, but it's RobS who more clearly needs the reminder about that. Northwest (talk) 10:19, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Good behavior is a matter of habits. Like using good sources, not dredging up things in the past, personal attacks, etc. It can be resolved if the parties consciously endeavor to learn new habits.

I see a lot of the past disputes between you and Rob involving preciseness. It is important to be precise in articles. Like there is a difference between something that might be true and something that is true. If a source says something might be true, we cannot cite it as saying something is true.

Also, in matters of history, things are often probababilistic. For example, there is a difference between Obama might not have been born in the USA or he definitely was not born in the USA or he definitely was not born in the USA. There are arguments that can be made on both sides concerning Obama's birth using various pieces of evidence. For example, there are computer experts that make arguments both pro and con that the online long form birth certificate is legitimate or a fraud. Like one has to interpret data. After all is said and done, we cannot be dogmatic about matters when certainty is not there.

NorthWest, the other issue is you and RobS being willing to compromise in matters. If you read the Obama's religion article, Andy and I had different positions and we compromised by having sections giving the pro/con evidence/arguments. I don't see you and RobS having the same spirit of compromise. I will frankly say that in my interactions with you and RobS that you both can passionate in your opinions, but you are more often to not be willing to try to see the possibility that the other person could be right about a matter and that you are wrong about matter. But at the same time, I am encouraged by our latest interaction where you acknowledge the sourcing issue (Quora). Now am I saying that RobS is perfect in hearing the other person out and considering that the other person may be right and that he may be wrong? No, he is not. Few people are perfect as far as being overly opionionated and not being stubborn or unreasonable at times. The important thing is to resist pride, be reasonably open-minded and to have a spirit of cooperativeness. Again, it is just a matter of learning new and better habits and this applies on the willingness to compromise when it is reasonable to do so.Conservative (talk) 12:24, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

• If an editor does not wish to be cited for trolling behavior, simple solution: Do Not Engage In Trolling Behavior.

• Conservapedia Guidelines defines trolling behavior as redundant arguments.

• The user in question has amply demonstrated in this discussion thread alone trolling behavior.

• Conservapedia will continue to hemorrhage genuine content creators and its readers and userbase if Andy continues to reward trolls, and penalize Admins who follow Conservapedia Guidelines to the letter.

RobS^{Free Kyle!} 12:59, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

You still don't want to let this go, do you? Continuing to falsely accuse me of what you yourself have engaged in against me (trolling) is intentionally provocative, is itself trolling and is an exact example of why you got cracked down on for that behavior and for your refusal to do as you're told regarding the rules here. Northwest (talk) 13:27, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Should update the captcha

The one with the question "What was the last Republican's last name", I thought I was meant to answer "Trump" because he was the last Republican president currently in office. T. Factoid (talk) 10:10, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

RobS and Northwest content disputes involving historical matters

I see a lot of disputes between RobS and NorthWest involving historical disputes. Below I give some great rules of weighing historical evidence.

Recommendations related to historical claims made by this article and information related to historiography

• Some keen insights from Pulitzer Prize–winner David Hackett Fischer

• Introduction to history

• 7 habits of highly effective historians

"Fischer, David Hackett, Historians’ Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical Thought (New York: Harper Collins, 1970). In only approximately 300 pages, Fischer surveys an immense amount of background historical literature to point out a comprehensive variety of analytical errors that many, if not most, historians commit. Fischer points out specific examples of faulty or sloppy reasoning in the work of even the most prominent historians, making it a useful book for beginning students of history. While this book presumably did not make Fischer popular with many of his peers, it should be noted that his contributions as a historian have not been limited simply to criticizing the work of others; since 1976, he has published a number of well-received books on other historical topics."[54]

Fischer's 7 habits of sound historiography

Fischer's 7 rules for historians taken from Josh McDowell's book The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict:

(1) The burden of proof for a historical claim is always upon the one making the assertion.

(2) Historical evidence must be an answer to the question asked and not to any other question.

(3) "An historian must not merely provide good evidence, but the best evidence. And the best evidence, all other things being equal, is the evidence which is most nearly immediate to the event itself."

(4) Evidence must always be affirmative. Negative evidence is no evidence at all. In other words, Fischer is saying that an absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.

(5) The meaning of any historical evidence is dependent upon the context from which it is obtained from.

(6) "An empirical statement must not be more precise than its evidence warrants."

(7) "All inferences from historical evidence are probabilistic."

Josh McDowell's Evidence that Demands a Verdict, page 674, 1999, Mark MCGarry, Texas Type and Book Works, Dallas, TX, ISBN 0-7852-4219-8)

Fischer's 6 principles of question framing for historical investigations

• Fischer's 6 principles of question framing Conservative (talk) 11:11, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

I hope this helps. Conservative (talk) 12:47, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Core principles for determining reliability

Ed. note: Longstory short, I'm going to provide two sections from WP's Historical method article, an issue I was involved lo these many years ago when I was engaged with WP Admin SlimVirgin in discussions on WP's Reliable sources and Biographies of living persons policy pages. The points I advocated for - that WP policy should be bent more toward the historical method rather than journalistic standards - lost out and resulted in the creation of this article.

The following core principles of source criticism were formulated by two Scandinavian historians, Olden-Jørgensen (1998) and Thurén (1997):[4]

• Human sources may be relics such as a fingerprint; or narratives such as a statement or a letter. Relics are more credible sources than narratives.
• Any given source may be forged or corrupted. Strong indications of the originality of the source increase its reliability.
• The closer a source is to the event which it purports to describe, the more one can trust it to give an accurate historical description of what actually happened.
• An eyewitness is more reliable than testimony at second hand, which is more reliable than hearsay at further remove, and so on.
• If a number of independent sources contain the same message, the credibility of the message is strongly increased.
• The tendency of a source is its motivation for providing some kind of bias. Tendencies should be minimized or supplemented with opposite motivations.
• If it can be demonstrated that the witness or source has no direct interest in creating bias then the credibility of the message is increased.

Argument to the best explanation

C. Behan McCullagh lays down seven conditions for a successful argument to the best explanation:[12]

1. The statement, together with other statements already held to be true, must imply yet other statements describing present, observable data. (We will henceforth call the first statement 'the hypothesis', and the statements describing observable data, 'observation statements'.)
2. The hypothesis must be of greater explanatory scope than any other incompatible hypothesis about the same subject; that is, it must imply a greater variety of observation statements.
3. The hypothesis must be of greater explanatory power than any other incompatible hypothesis about the same subject; that is, it must make the observation statements it implies more probable than any other.
4. The hypothesis must be more plausible than any other incompatible hypothesis about the same subject; that is, it must be implied to some degree by a greater variety of accepted truths than any other, and be implied more strongly than any other; and its probable negation must be implied by fewer beliefs, and implied less strongly than any other.
5. The hypothesis must be less ad hoc than any other incompatible hypothesis about the same subject; that is, it must include fewer new suppositions about the past which are not already implied to some extent by existing beliefs.
6. It must be disconfirmed by fewer accepted beliefs than any other incompatible hypothesis about the same subject; that is, when conjoined with accepted truths it must imply fewer observation statements and other statements which are believed to be false.
7. It must exceed other incompatible hypotheses about the same subject by so much, in characteristics 2 to 6, that there is little chance of an incompatible hypothesis, after further investigation, soon exceeding it in these respects.

McCullagh sums up, "if the scope and strength of an explanation are very great, so that it explains a large number and variety of facts, many more than any competing explanation, then it is likely to be true."[13]

Ed. note: Maybe between User:Conservative's material and some of this stuff we can hack out an article on Historigraphy. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:16, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

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Thanks. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 17:11, 3 April 2021 (EDT)

RobS - abuse of power and block feature

RobS is back to his old tricks again, as he has twice more unjustly blocked me (bringing the grand total to seven) in response to confronting him on his incivility[55] (which he has repeatedly instigated), his false accusations against me[56] (i.e. falsely claiming my edits are "racist" when he himself is making it about race, not me) and against others[57], projection of his own behavior (including trolling) and attitudes, refusal to take responsibility for same[58][59] and abuse of power (even though he is no longer an admin here) by abusing the block feature[60]. I think that it was a mistake to give Rob back blocking and other privileges after he was stripped of them for abusing them previously, as he has repeatedly demonstrated that, given any kind of power, he will invariably abuse it; because of that, he cannot be trusted with such power anymore and he needs to be dealt with appropriately. Northwest (talk) 13:42, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

All this is remarkably reminiscent of Rationalwiki 1.0 - whose stated objective was to sow discord among CP Admins. Since I've been permabanned from Rationalwiki in January 2021, the battleground has been carried here to Conservapedia once again. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 13:49, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

Which, again, you brought on yourself through your behavior noted above. Northwest (talk) 13:50, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

You will have a hard time making the case that a 10 minute and 1 hour block intended to modify behavior is abuse of power when you routinely hand out 6 month, 2 year and 5 year blocks without cause.

Andy just issued a statement that the probability of a bad faith editor can justify blocking. Your inability to engage in discussion, and relying on programmed responses, such as "only liberals call people racists, therefore you are a liberal" tends to support the allegation of a lack of good faith.

Congratulations - you won enhanced user rights by parroting words and phrases used by Karajou. But Karajou is a real-life, thinking and reasoning person who even acts on emotion once in awhile. You appear to have a programmed agenda to discredit Conservapedia with troll edits (witness Stacey Abrams peddles bizarre conspiracy theories such as election rigging in Georgia, which you justified here [61] "it was accurate and sourced and it didn't need to be dealt with"). IOWs per User:Northwest and Conservapedia, Donald Trump, Sidney Powell, and Lin Wood also spread "bizarre conspiracy theories" about election rigging in Georgia.

RobS^{Free Kyle!}

All you're doing is again proving the points I made in the original post with your incivility, projection and other behaviors (and incidentally, the blocks I handed out, unlike in your case, were not "without cause", as they were handed out to actual trolls who came here only to make trouble - and Andy recognized and acknowledged my efforts, whereas you couldn't even be bothered to deal with said trolls). Do you really want to go down that road again, knowing what happened to you last time? Northwest (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

Rationalwiki trolls with blocking rights have been doing that for years to limit CP's userbase, along with inserting subversive racist information. As well as sowing discord among CP Admins. Why can't you engage in rational discussion, other than parroting words and phrases you picked up from Karajou ("starting fights", "lying in email" "making false accusations", etc.)

You have been instructed trolling is making redundant arguments, yet that's all you have done for 2 months.

A 10 minute block is intended to modify behavior - a 6 month or 2 year block risks destroying CP's userbase. And it may even be intentional to do just that.RobS^{Free Kyle!} 14:49, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

Thanks for once again completely missing the point of my previous post (as well as continuing to make dismissive excuses for your own behavior) with your post. And incidentally, Karajou's not wrong about you. Northwest (talk) 14:58, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

Inserting a user name into a subheading on a talk page is a personal attack - a blockable offense you have committed twice now on the owner's talk page. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:24, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

You're the one who keeps starting trouble here with your attacks on me for trying to do my job, I'm just trying to bring attention to your repeated wrongdoing (which you're still refusing to take responsibility for - and as I told you before, if you'd quit with the attacks and your projection of your own behavior, I wouldn't have to respond, but you just don't want to listen). Northwest (talk) 01:17, 5 April 2021 (EDT)

Brad Raffensperger

User:Northwest uses Brad Raffensperger no less, to make the claim Stacey Abrams peddles "bizarre conspiracy theories" such as election rigging in Georgia, which "was accurate and sourced and it didn't need to be dealt with":

“Many people think that President Trump’s onslaught on Georgia’s election integrity was new, but outside groups, apparently heavily supported by Stacey Abrams, have been pushing these conspiracy theories for years,” said Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger. “In light of the devastation election disinformation caused on January 6 in Washington, D.C., Abrams needs to finally accept her 2018 election loss and stop funding attacks on Georgia’s election integrity.”

Didn't need to be dealt with? The edit is still in the mainspace. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:05, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

I looked in the entry Brad Raffensperger and did not see that quote. Is it somewhere else?--Andy Schlafly (talk) 19:12, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

It's in the citation Northwest put into the Stacey Abrams article [62] that "didn't need to be dealt with". The user has a history of edit warring with me and refusing to discuss changes to mainspace. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:16, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

Here is the offending link he reinserted after my reversion. [63] RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:04, 4 April 2021 (EDT)

And guess what - you yourself are the one who starts the edit wars by reverting legitimate sourced edits I make. You're still trying to create drama where there had been none and microscopically scrutinize and criticize, without justification, every edit I do to find whatever perceived fault you want to see, no matter what, and that is part of what's disruptive to this site (and incidentally, the evidence that you supplied in your above two posts actually works against you, not for you). Northwest (talk) 01:17, 5 April 2021 (EDT)

Suspected RW infiltration

Hi Andy, I have reasons to believe that a current user on this site is a subversive sock of an infamous RW troll trying to tie Christianity and conservatism to fascism. However, seeing that you demoted me last night to only SkipCaptcha, I feel powerless to do anything about it, especially given the general precedent set by Northwest in the disputes with RobSmith. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Monday, 12:35, 5 April 2021 (EDT)

Don't worry about RW. It's editor base consists of a small group of contentious, snarky, young people who can be very careless in their provocative claims about living people. Many of them have mental illness or some personality/character issues. Recently, one of their RW Foundation board members resigned after a bout of cutting himself and going on angry online rampages at the RW website.

They are one lawsuit away from extinction in the short term or midtern possibly. And long term, they will die through a lawsuit, division eating away their editor base or the secular, SJW/woke, political fad dying out. In addition, I have helped a handful of websites very substantially increase their web traffic in a very big way - like millions of page views. And I can tell you there are some clear signs that RW lost a ton of traffic recently and it has signs it will continue to lose web traffic.

I just shortened my RW essay due to your input. And I am going to focus on some professional/personal goals so I will be less involved in the "world of wikis".

To his credit, Andy Schlafly has chosen to ignore RW.

There are a few CP editors, especially one, who needs to be far less RW focused.Conservative (talk) 00:18, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

You're undermining the significance of all of this. They may give you the impression that they are a bunch of punks who can't control their emotions, yet they've managed to fool most CP users for a long while. Their goal is to smear conservatives and Christians, and most of their subversive activity has gone unnoticed and unchanged by the majority of CP editors who just assume they're legitimate contributors. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:25, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Above, I just added this material: "In addition, I have helped a handful of websites very substantially increase their web traffic in a very big way - like millions of page views. And I can tell you there are some clear signs that RW lost a ton of traffic recently and it has signs it will continue to lose web traffic."Conservative (talk) 00:28, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Then perhaps you can help CP gain web traffic by millions more views? We kinda need it right now, given the current Alexa rankings showing how abysmal we're doing... —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:30, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Yeah, about Alexa, considering that's owned by Amazon, a far-left company, I don't think we'll get higher rankings there even if we dotted our i's and crossed our t's. Not unless we REALLY want to make the same mistake MLB is making by becoming more leftist by pandering to the liberal media. Pokeria1 (talk) 06:30, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Andy, look at this article. The entire point is to smear anti-establishment conservatives as Nazis because Miller made a bad remark on January 6. The agenda by the author of the page is quite obvious. Will you pay attention? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 00:32, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

I have some residual/passive income coming in so I am doing a lot better than many during this pandemic, but I want to focus heavily on increasing my income so I can retire early, etc. So doing a very substantial amount of volunteer work as far as CP is not in the cards right now.Conservative (talk) 00:47, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

I just took a look at the Mary Miller article a moment ago - sorry, but I don't see where there's really anything wrong with the article. The smearing of anti-establishment conservatives as "Nazis" by the Left based on the Left's own misguided perceptions, coupled with their projection of their own attitudes and behavior, is entirely their own problem, caused by them listening to the liberal media and their politically-motivated (and politically-biased) lies and fact-twisting for the sake of narrative for so long that they've come to accept it as "gospel" and refuse to listen to anything else that contradicts the "official" narrative. Here's what the Washington Times said regarding the controversy (bolded sections emphasized by me):

“

Miller’s spokeswoman didn’t respond to multiple requests seeking comment. The Chicago Sun-Times reported Miller responded in now-deleted tweets that she would “never glorify a genocidal dictator” and that her statement “was a denunciation of evil dictators’ efforts to re-educate young people and similar efforts by left-wing radicals in our country today.” The rally hosts defended Miller, saying Thursday that the comments were taken out of context, Miller was owed an apology and, “Truth is truth regardless of the source.” “Moms for America” President Kimberly Fletcher also referenced the Nazi leader in the group’s defense of Miller. “Hitler also said, ‘Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it,’ If we mandate people not talk about the insidious actions of Hitler, we dismiss the horrific events he incited and open the door for them to be repeated,” Fletcher wrote. “The media should focus on the truth instead of relentlessly repeating big lies.”[64]

”

I got the gist of the story (and so would have anyone else who heard and understood what Miller was saying), but the liberal media refused to and instead opportunistically used it to create drama where there was none and to smear Miller and, by extension, anyone else who supported her. This is just the latest of countless reasons why the liberal media is no longer trusted by the majority of the public. Northwest (talk) 01:21, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

MPR priorities

Andy, right now with Sleepy Joe installed as acting junta leader, there's the Biden border crisis to the disastrous foreign policy effects to so many other important things to report on. RobSmith would be reporting on this type of stuff, but you never reinstated his sysop powers and now you're letting him remain blocked by a subversive CP user. Since he's now unable to add that, one would expect that someone, maybe you, would do it instead, but it seems that your current priorities are some MLB stuff. Thanks to the Biden junta now destroying all the accomplishments made by the Trump Administration on foreign policy, Russia, the CCP, and Iran are more giddy than ever and our national security is at stake. So why is sports being the main focus when there's all this to focus heavily on? I've read enough articles/reports on The Hill to know some info about the current crises with foreign policy/national security. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 23:38, 5 April 2021 (EDT)

The Biden administration is not a junta. RobS should accept the unpleasant fact that Biden is president and that it is not a junta. How much election fraud there was in 2020 I don't know. I wish Trump had handled the pandemic better, but it wasn't entirely his fault. Under the USA political system, the states have a lot of power. In addition, there is a lot of individualism and personal liberty in the USA so people are free to proverbally and literally give the middle finger to public health policy suggestions that the government gives. On top of this, as far as the media informing the public about the pandemic, the USA media has deteriorated in quality to such a high degree that many people do not trust them. In short, the days of Walter Cronkite, Tim Russert and Ted Koppel are over (while those newscasters did lean to the left side of political spectrum, they had more objectivity/credibility than the bulk of today's journalists). Conservative (talk) 00:41, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

I can't speak for Tim Russert and Ted Koppel, but Walter Cronkite didn't merely "lean left." He was a radical subversive. Heck, he outright LIED on the air about the Tet Offensive, through his teeth, and pretty much was single-handedly responsible for Vietnam eventually being lost. The age of him as an objective news reporter NEVER existed in the first place. Heck, as ProgressingAmerica pointed out, "objective" news never truly existed, since left-wing bias was a fundamental part of what Walter Lippmann tried to create. Also, Biden is an up and out usurper. He's not the president, especially not when we've already got evidence coming out even now that the election was up and out stolen. Want to push the liberal line, join wikipedia, don't have Conservapedia tarnished with left-wing propaganda. Besides, RobS if anything was the one who AGREED with you. Pokeria1 (talk) 06:21, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

As soon as I read this, LT, I figured you were talking about me. I don't know where you get this "subversive" idea, but Rob was starting to cause problems again (which are already documented further up) and, soon after he got blocking privileges back, saw fit to abuse the feature by unjustly blocking me twice for standing up to him for the belligerent attitude and provocative behavior he was displaying (including his false accusations), which is already well-known that he has a history of (and which more than one editor has had to broach with him). Drama is something no one here needs to deal with, and Rob has had to be reminded more than once (and by more than one admin/sysop/editor - including by you) to tone down the attitude and put the brakes on the incivility, but he has repeatedly refused to listen or do as he was told, so he's had (more than once) to be dealt with regarding that, per the guidelines. Simply put, the less drama there is here, the more that can get accomplished on the site with article creation/improvement. Northwest (talk) 00:56, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Tim Russert was the best mainstream news guy in the last 50 years. He cross-examined political guests and did a decent amount of research before interviewing them. When he died, there was an outpouring of emotion. Ted Koppel indicates the press has slid downward in objectivity and general quality since he was a newsman. Conservative (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

I should have qualified my statement about Cronkite since I had heard he very much leaned left (I don't know much about Cronkite). The main thing I wanted to convey is that rightly/wrongly he was a lot more trusted than today's journalists.Conservative (talk) 11:12, 6 April 2021 (EDT)

Did you see my recent emails?

Thanks. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 12:31, 25 April 2021 (EDT)

Image unlock request

Hi Andy,
When you get a chance, would you mind unlocking this image, so I can update it with a retouched version which corrects the shade and tone? Thank you! --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 14:49, 28 April 2021 (EDT)

I unlocked it for 24 hours. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 14:52, 28 April 2021 (EDT)

Done, thank you Rob! --DavidB4 ^(TALK) 14:53, 28 April 2021 (EDT)

Trolls

How long will allow trolls to continue sowing division among CP Admins? [65] Thank you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 03:25, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Please clarify once and for all, Does CP allow User pages to used for disparaging remarks about other Conservpadia users? Thank you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:32, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

YOU ARE THE ONE CAUSING THE DIVISION, AND IT WILL STOP. Karajou (talk) 18:38, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Andy has stated disparaging comments about other users have no place in CP. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 18:45, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

THEN QUIT CAUSING THE PROBLEM. Karajou (talk) 18:49, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Did he, Rob, or did you? And oh, let's see...

• You repeatedly blocked me unjustly four times (for a grand total now of 11) for calling you out on the resumption of your abuse of power (and you kept doing so purely on a whim, like what the Democrat governors keep doing with their CCP flu lockdown orders and arbitrary extensions thereof);
• You blocked Pokeria1 unjustly and out of petty spite after you lost an argument to him on the Stacey Abrams talk page;[66]
• Prior to that, you kept hiding what Pokeria1 had to say on that talk page (once again, like a censorious liberal) by using the warning template[67][68] because you didn't like what he had to say;
• After Andy unblocked him when he saw what you were doing, you proceeded soon after to deliberately undermine and insubordinate Andy by re-blocking Pokeria1 for no reason at all;[69] and oh, yeah...
• One of your unjustified blocks against me kept me from dealing right away with a vandalizing troll;[70] had that been a vandal who proceeded to do far more damage to multiple pages while I was unable to do anything about it, that would have been squarely on you.

So how am I doing so far? Northwest (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Andy, Are you going to allow your talk page to be used for disparaging personal attacks against other users? 19:06, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Producing evidence against you for the things you've been doing over the past couple of days is not a "disparaging attack", Rob - and once again, you're proving my point about you playing the "victim" when you get caught in your wrongdoing and called out for it. And now that you've also been exposed for insubordinating Andy and deliberately defying him, your time here may well be numbered. You'd be best off to drop this and let everyone else get back to what needs to be done here without all the drama. Northwest (talk) 19:11, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

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Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility states:

• Your user page/discussion pages, are indeed your castle, from which you can agree, disagree and discuss issues as you will. However you cannot use them to bully, ridicule (make fun of) or attack (denigrate) Conservapedia or other users, and their opinions.

The blocks of NW were completely warranted after he refused polite requests to comply with site policy. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

The issue of this thread is simple: User:Northwest has attacks on his mainspace user page against another user. It has been reinserted by him several times, and once by Karajou. Nothing further needs to be said. Andy will decide whether to enforce site policy or not. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:22, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

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No, they were not - and again, calling out your wrongdoing is not "bullying", "ridiculing" or "denigrating", whereas that's exactly what you've been doing over the past few days with your action. Seriously, you need to drop this and let it go because the more you protest, the less good it looks for you. Northwest (talk) 19:18, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Continuing to create drama here for the sake of creating drama and calling attention to yourself over trouble that you yourself caused isn't going to do you any good, Rob. I wouldn't even have to reply if you'd just drop the matter, but you just simply refuse to and that only reflects badly on you and you alone. Northwest (talk) 19:30, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

This talk page, which spans from 23:58, 10 May 2021 (EDT) to 23:42, 11 May 2021 (EDT), a full 24-hour period, is replete with off-topic references and personal attacks - the very definition of trolling. There was no effort by the other party to address the subject. A short 24 block was justified after being trolled for 24 hours and reinserting a controversial edit while refusing to discuss constructively. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:02, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Not according to Pokeria1, who pointed out that it was right on topic - and thus is not "trolling" (as opposed to what you were doing); also, Andy himself unblocked him after what you did, which should tell you right there and then that the block was not justified, but then you went out of your way to insubordinate Andy by re-blocking Pokeria1 minutes later without justification. The more you do this, Rob, the more you paint yourself into a corner here. Northwest (talk)

Oh, and Rob - congrats on ignoring this troll that you allowed to get through while you were carrying on like you were. Had I still been blocked while he was doing his damage (and had Karajou not been here to revert the vandalism), like I was saying, this would be 100% on you. Northwest (talk) 20:11, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

I have a simple question for you, Northwest: Why are you using Andy's talk page to attack other users? Why don't you simply allow Andy to rule on the question of this topic, rather than fill up his talk page (again) with crap? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:18, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Exactly what could be asked of you based on your continuing attempts to create drama where there was none (and your continued blaming of others and your refusal to take responsibility for your actions), Rob. Northwest (talk) 20:22, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

And while you were busy with that latest rant, Rob, you just allowed another troll to get by and go on another vandalism spree before I had to stop him. Sorry, bad form on your part. Northwest (talk) 20:25, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

There is drama on your user page.

So you're a hero. No vandal attacks while you were gone, but as soon as you're back you can show us all what a vandal fighter you are. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:27, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

The more you post, Rob (especially with your incivility, insinuations and false accusations, which only further prove my point about you), the worse you only make yourself look. Northwest (talk) 20:29, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Northwest, remove the drama from your user page, please. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:31, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Calling out all the wrong you've been doing is not "drama", Rob. Trying to turn it back around on me to deflect from your own wrongdoing is only making you look worse and worse. Northwest (talk) 20:34, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Andy has requested that CP editors refrain from making disparaging comments about other editors. Are you requesting an exemption? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:38, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Again, Rob, calling out your wrongdoing is not making "disparaging comments" - oh, and BTW, you just let yet another troll get through and rapidly do damage here before he got stopped. Nice going. Northwest (talk) 20:42, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Okay, so the vandals that have returned since your unblocking prove how valuable you are to the project. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:44, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Sarcasm, insinuation and incivility on your part isn't getting you anywhere here, Rob. You really need to tread lightly because you're about to border on libel again. Northwest (talk) 20:46, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Do you have Checkuser? [71] RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:01, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

You definitely don't. Northwest (talk) 21:03, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Your edit summary in the above link is confusing. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:05, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Based on the pattern of the last three vandal trolls that you allowed to get through before (to cause damage almost immediately upon account creation) during your rants, that one was a pre-emptive strike to prevent yet another potential vandal from causing trouble. Northwest (talk) 21:09, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Are you saying your edit summary was incorrrect? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:19, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Are you trying to undermine the integrity of this site by allowing vandal trolls to come here and do damage while ignoring what they do (in addition to all of the other recent wrongs by you noted near the top of this section)? Northwest (talk) 21:23, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

You can help improve communication with your fellow sysops by using a correct edit summary. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:26, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Take a look at these three of the most recent blocks from the block log - there are the culprits (or culprit - singular - doing IP hopping).[72][73][74] Enough said. Northwest (talk) 22:08, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

So you blocked on an hunch. Fair enough. You represented it as if you had evidence, which confuses other sysops.

I have repeatedly advocated for improved communication between sysops, and edit summaries are key. Sysops should refrain from developing a habit or reputation for faulty or misleading edit summaries, to avoid problems down the road. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 22:16, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

We already have edit summaries. For goodness sakes, I even used them when editing out some of your stuff and putting stuff back in. Pokeria1 (talk) 23:00, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

The reference here is using edit summaries when performing sysop functions. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 23:01, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

BTW, Andy, next time you want to tell NorthWest or anyone else to stop using their user page to voice complaints about editors, try making it public instead of doing it via a private Sysop channel, because the edits there are NOT registered under your edit page, and thus I'd have absolutely NO way I'd even know you said that it should stop. Pokeria1 (talk) 19:36, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

If you read CP Guidelines, or listened to the two Admins who told you so, you'd know that. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 21:33, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

I knew it was against the rules to insult or denigrate people, but I and most people define "insult" or "denigrate" as being stuff like "you can kiss my butt" or "you're a stupid-head" or even saying you love to be sodomized. Not calling out people for abusing power, so I failed to see how posting your wrongdoing and repeated unjustified bans (which, BTW, based on Andy undoing my block, even HE agreed it was unjustified) was violating the rules. Maybe if NorthWest did stuff on his page like call you an a-hole or told you to slit your own throat, or state your whole family had a collective IQ that was significantly lower than boiled cabbage, THEN I'd agree with you that he violated the rules, but as it stands, exposing your abuse of power =/= denigration. Besides, my point was that they should have explicitly told NorthWest publicly on this page instead of on a private Sysop which doesn't even RECORD the edits on there. What's to say someone who was out of the loop regarding the Sysop tried to search for where aschlafly said that in the edit list and couldn't find it? They'll assume Conservative was lying and try to revert it. I'd know because that's PRECISELY why I did that. I searched aschlafly's contributions page and found literally NO evidence of him even mentioning it at all. Pokeria1 (talk) 21:41, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

Basically, it's what's known as administrator accountability. Northwest (talk) 21:46, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

Well, this recent edit by RobS at the Administrator's Guide page that removed the administrator accountability section as well as removing what to do about vandalbots that invade this site, preceded by his locking of the page to prevent its reversion[75] (an abuse of the protection feature, incidentally, following in his recent pattern of locking articles to keep specific edits that he prefers), just illustrated exactly why administrator accountability is needed here. RobS does not get to make himself the exception to the rule on this site, nor does he get to defy and insubordinate Andy to do whatever he pleases and abuse his power on a whim. Northwest (talk) 17:49, 15 May 2021 (EDT)

That section was added by a non-Admin without permission. Non-Admins do not write policy. Neither do Admins without Andy's approval. Somebody forgot to lock the page sometime back. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 17:53, 15 May 2021 (EDT)

Not an excuse, and it also doesn't justify what you've been doing. Northwest (talk) 18:38, 15 May 2021 (EDT)

What kind of articles are not allowed on Conservapedia?

I figured I'd ask you because you're the founder, and I want to make sure I don't make any articles that are outside of Conservapedia's scope. For example, I made a page on Yoshi (a video game character from the Mario series). Is this okay? Patriotic Gamer (talk) 14:20, 25 May 2021 (EDT)

Articles about video games (and chess) are welcome. Thanks. Deletions of information is disfavored, so I did revert an edit which deleted substantial information about a video game character.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:42, 25 May 2021 (EDT)

To help with this, I made an infobox for video games: Template:Infobox VG. Also, I asked some questions on some talk pages if you'd like to take a look at those (see my contributions). Patriotic Gamer (talk) 15:46, 25 May 2021 (EDT)

In undeleting this article, I included the version of the original creator with his edit summary. I'm not familiar with the subject matter nor the original editor and have to leave it you guys to sort out. Thanks. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 14:51, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

I have played FF5 before & those things don't immediately pop out to me (esp transvestism & environmentalism i don't recall either of those). I have said on the Final Fantasy page that use of magic is a recurring feature in the games (japanese RPGs are based on Dungeons & Dragons). I think parental guides for the FF games are probably needed. The GBA game is rated E10+. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 15:14, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

Moved from my talk page (please don't flame like this. here is the appropriate place for this posting:

To address the FF5 bit, I will acknowledge that the game is technically guilty of crossdressing in the form of one of the main characters Faris Schwertz, though it should be noted that she was more or less forced into doing that by her foster family, a bunch of pirates, which implies it was a negative condemnation of crossdressing. As far as environmentalism, actually, you could argue that the game if anything was anti-environmentalist. The various elemental crystals shattering was NOT due to human usage, it was because Exdeath was forcing them to shatter it via demonic possession in an attempt at escaping his encapsulation prior to the events of the game, usually by possessing various characters (or in the case of the water crystal, an up and out animal). Not to mention Exdeath wasn't even a human being, he was a sentient tree that took the form of a knight, and the reason he was that? He was used in a hexing ritual to seal away various demonic creatures, and such caused him to develop self-awareness. And in FF6's defense, the nihilism bit was NOT meant to be portrayed in a positive manner, as the one dabbling in nihilism, Kefka, was the main villain. Pokeria1 (talk) 15:31, May 30, 2021 (EDT)

First of all, it was in direct reply to PatriotGamer's post on that topic, so it is as applicable on your page as it is on Andy's. Second of all, that was uncalled for, telling me to not flame, because that wasn't flaming at all. You want actual flaming? This is flaming. Pokeria1 (talk) 18:18, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

Flaming is spreading a dispute over multiple pages in an effort to drag others into it. I am not interested in transvestism, demonology, or video games, and made clear my talk page was not the appropriate place to discuss it. Please don't do it again. Thank you. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 19:02, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

wgAmericanDates

Do you want to set $wgAmericanDates = true; for Conservapedia? this will make the MediaWiki show in American dates rather than British dates by default. I just thought it would be a fitting touch, considering we're a pro-American wiki. :) Patriotic Gamer (talk) 12:30, 27 May 2021 (EDT)

Done as suggested! Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 13:08, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

You're welcome -- it's a nice touch. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 13:10, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

For some reason it's not displaying in American MM/DD/YYYY format anymore. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 17:39, 27 May 2021 (EDT)

Great catch! It should work now, and not revert back to the British date system. Your suggestion was wonderful as this is an American encyclopedia, not a British one.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:28, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

Want you to be an editor on my blog Stop Liberalsim

Hi there, Schlafly! I recently made an unofficial blog for this website, Stop Liberalism. I want to add you as an editor for the site because I can't continually make posts on a regular basis (also I am going on vacation tomorrow and won't be here for at least 2 days). Can you share to me your email so I can mail you an invite to edit the blog?

Here is the website link to prove I'm not a liar: https://stopliberalism.weebly.com/. You can also find the link on my page. The99Percent (talk) 15:22, May 27, 2021 (EDT)

Rules for coverage?

Is there any kind of policy for what is and is not allowed to be covered on Conservapedia? I tried looking a few times I made a new template for a new article that I made on Bulbasaur (a fictional Pokemon) to see if it could work on Conservapedia (I should prob make a more elaborate parents' guide for Pokemon because it could also help parents). I suppose even fictional subjects could be used for things like, let's say, essays or unique courses. Patriotic Gamer (talk) 12:43, May 28, 2021 (EDT)

Topics should be family friendly, not gossipy, and somewhat encyclopedic or informative. A guide to Pokemon would be welcome! Most other topics are welcome also, within the outer limits just outlined.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:50, May 28, 2021 (EDT)

Mario Kart DS

I made a comprehensive article on a video game (link is in the header), and its writing is unique to Conservapedia (though a couple of sections have not yet been added). The reception section has a review score from a Christian-based gaming website as well. I didn't add reviews from left-wing websites like IGN on purpose. I hope you appreciate it, as I've been trying to picture of how a uniquely-written video game article on Conservapedia would look. :) Patriotic Gamer (talk) 17:15, May 29, 2021 (EDT)

That is a very thorough entry. Not copied (except from something you wrote, or copied with consent), right? Well done!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:48, May 29, 2021 (EDT)

categories

Which category do you mean? --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:49, May 31, 2021 (EDT)

An example is calling people "Neo-Nazi" when they deny it.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:50, June 1, 2021 (EDT)

MediaWiki 1.35?

Will Conservapedia ever be upgraded to a more recent version of MediaWiki (seeing as support for MediaWiki 1.24 has discontinued some time ago)? Patriotic Gamer (talk) 10:55, June 3, 2021 (EDT)

Edit group

Is there a way to become part of the "edit" user group? I've been meaning to ask so I can edit during night and early morning, but felt it would be rude to immediately ask because I think it's something that has to be earned? Last week I asked RobSmith about editing being locked during night time, and he said I could ask you about this. Thanks Patriotic Gamer (talk) 21:58, June 7, 2021 (EDT)

Page unlock

Hello, could you unlock Thomas Jefferson, I would like to add some information about James Lemen. Thank you. Progressingamerica (talk) 10:12, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

Unlocked as requested. Surprised it was still locked, so thanks for alerting me to this!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:24, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

favicon.ico

I've been meaning to mention, but the website can be strange when displaying favicon.ico. I'm using Firefox, and under "View Page Info", the favicon gives me this url: "https://www.conservapedia.com/home/customer/www/conservapedia.com/public_html/favicon.ico," whereas the path should (and is) https://conservapedia.com/favicon.ico. Is some type of configuration error causing this to occur? The existing favicon.ico is slightly off center (so it's 32x32px, but when it's cropped, it's 28x28px). Do you know how to fix this issue? Thank you Patriotic Gamer (talk) 12:02, June 16, 2021 (EDT)

Hi user:Aschlafly how can I upload photo?

--HamzhaSaleem (talk) 16:12, June 23, 2021 (EDT)

Bible prediction

Hey Andy, love your work, I would love to make a page on about Bible prediction, which would be a page about new scientific predictions (yet unproven) that is subsquently proven by scientific experiment. I would escipally would love one on physics. Could you please give me some examples? Thank you! Gyenda (talk) 11:06, June 25, 2021 (EDT)

Do you mean Biblical scientific foreknowledge?--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:25, June 24, 2021 (EDT)

Well, not exactly. I would like to make scientific prediction based on the Bible that is currently hasn't been proven and then do an experiment that proves it. Gyenda (talk) 12:17, June 25, 2021 (EDT)