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The term '''internet troll''' refers to someone who acts in a way to disrupt or disparage others, often to attract attention to the troll. As a verb, it means commenting in an unproductive way to spark a reaction. Trolls are commonplace on any website open for comment by the public, and studies have even been done about how unhappy trolls are themselves. Trolling can also be online bullying, or cyberbullying.  
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|colspan="3"|<hr/>A [[Twitter]] troll flip flops 180 degrees in 38 minutes after mindlessly trashing [[Republican]]s, February                                        4, 2023.<ref>[https://youtu.be/xV_oB645ySM Twitter Explained In Just One Picture], Romanian TVee, February 5, 2023.</ref>
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The term '''internet troll''' refers to someone who acts in a way to disrupt or disparage others, often to attract attention to the troll. As a verb, it means commenting in an unproductive way to spark a reaction. Trolls are commonplace on any website open for comment by the public, and studies have even been done about how unhappy trolls are themselves. Trolling can also be online bullying or cyberbullying.  
  
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[[Jesus]] explains the existence of trolls in the [[parable]] of the tares in Matthew 13:24-30, specifically [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)#13:25|verse 25]]: '''''"But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds in the middle of the wheat, and then left."'''''
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[[Jesus]] explains the existence of trolls in the [[parable]] of the tares in {{bibleref|Matthew|13|24-30}}, specifically [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)#13:25|verse 25]]: '''''"But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds in the middle of the wheat, and then left."'''''
  
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Some entire websites such as [[Reddit]] and comment sections on newspapers serve as flypaper for trolls, attracting and keeping them away from littering more productive sites on the internet. Another example is [[Twitter]], which has become an echo chamber for leftists who lack the ability to spend time productively and instead recycle agitprop over and over.
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Some entire websites such as [[Reddit]] and comment sections on newspapers serve as flypaper for trolls, attracting and keeping them away from littering more productive sites on the internet. Another example is [[Twitter]], which has become an echo chamber for leftists who lack the ability to spend time productively and instead recycle [[agitprop]] over and over.
  
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Trolls tend to be deceitful underachievers, who hate people who achieve with integrity.  This is illustrated by trolls posting immature comments against [[Magnus Carlsen]], perhaps the greatest [[chess]] player ever who works to restore integrity to the game.  A [[Canadian]] study found that online trolls:
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{{cquote|reek of what scientists call the Dark Tetrad of noxious personality variables: [[Machiavelli]]anism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).<ref>https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2014/02/20/inside-the-minds-of-internet-trolls/</ref>}}
 
==Internet trolls==
 
==Internet trolls==
 
''See also:'' [[Atheist trolls]] and [[Atheism and humor#Individuals trolling atheists and atheist trolls|Individuals trolling atheists]]
 
''See also:'' [[Atheist trolls]] and [[Atheism and humor#Individuals trolling atheists and atheist trolls|Individuals trolling atheists]]
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A troll, in [[Internet]] parlance, is an entity or character that purposely disrupts a conversation via discussion [[forum]] or [[email]], a comment thread on a [[blog]], or another sort of website. For example, on [[Wiki]]s, users who purposely make disruptive edits are considered trolls. Many people consider this type of activity to be merely childish, while others consider it symptomatic of deviant minds of opposition whereby infiltration by deceit is normal practice. Trolls pretend to be of common thinking, at the same time plotting anti-social crimes. The troll can otherwise be known as a [[frenemy]] or as a [[hoax plant]] lurking for an opportunity to create trouble.   
 
A troll, in [[Internet]] parlance, is an entity or character that purposely disrupts a conversation via discussion [[forum]] or [[email]], a comment thread on a [[blog]], or another sort of website. For example, on [[Wiki]]s, users who purposely make disruptive edits are considered trolls. Many people consider this type of activity to be merely childish, while others consider it symptomatic of deviant minds of opposition whereby infiltration by deceit is normal practice. Trolls pretend to be of common thinking, at the same time plotting anti-social crimes. The troll can otherwise be known as a [[frenemy]] or as a [[hoax plant]] lurking for an opportunity to create trouble.   
  
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The term originated in the early 1990s, an abbreviation of the term "trolling for suckers" (trolling being an angling technique to seek fish). An [[Internet]] troll will lock their target, bait the line and spread the net to catch their goal (unwitting victim). Sites such as [[YouTube]], [[Yahoo!]] and the Internet Movie Database (prior to the latter's shutdown of its message boards on February 20, 2017) are known for their lax (laid back) and sometimes negative enforcement of community guidelines on their forums and comment sections. The effects of trolling on children who use the internet have been linked to a number of well documented suicides among youth in years past.  
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The term originated in the early 1990s, as an abbreviation of the term "trolling for suckers" (trolling being an angling technique to seek fish). An [[Internet]] troll will lock their target, bait the line and spread the net to catch their goal (unwitting victim). Sites such as [[YouTube]], [[Yahoo!]] and the Internet Movie Database (prior to the latter's shutdown of its message boards on February 20, 2017) are known for their lax (laid back) and sometimes negative enforcement of community guidelines on their forums and comment sections. The effects of trolling on children who use the internet have been linked to a number of well-documented suicides among youth in years past.  
  
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The reason most trolls act the way they do online is because they either have nothing better to do, suffer from low self-esteem as a result of a number of factors, or are anonymous children who have been, or are being [[bullying|bullied]] in real life and turn to the Internet to vent their anger. Many users have been banned from web forums or social networking sites as a result of using foul language or abusive replies to defend themselves against trolls, mostly due to corrupt and one-sided web masters. This is the basis that most trolls operate on. Luring their victims in, getting them stirred up, and then using their reactions against them and pretending that the victim is the bad guy. Anybody who expresses their viewpoints freely and/or touches on divisive and/or sensitive issues is a potential target for trolls.  
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The reason most trolls act the way they do online is that they either have nothing better to do, suffer from low self-esteem as a result of a number of factors, or are anonymous children who have been or are being [[bullying|bullied]] in real life and turn to the Internet to vent their anger. Many users have been banned from web forums or social networking sites as a result of using foul language or abusive replies to defend themselves against trolls, mostly due to corrupt and one-sided web masters. This is the basis that most trolls operate on. Luring their victims in, getting them stirred up, and then using their reactions against them and pretending that the victim is the bad guy. Anybody who expresses their viewpoints freely and/or touches on divisive and/or sensitive issues is a potential target for trolls.  
  
 
Trolling is a common weapon used against conservative speech in feeble attempts at silencing them. Most trolls are kids between the ages of 10 and 16 who have no other agenda than amusing themselves with other people's frustration, who show up to get into mischief and stir up trouble on comment sites and on wikis because they most often are not being supervised online by their parents.<ref>[https://www.csoonline.com/article/2225579/most-parents-allow-unsupervised-internet-access-to-children-at-age-8.html Most parents allow unsupervised internet access to children at age 8]</ref> Such trolls often venture to the comment sections of conservative news sites to [[gloating|gloat]] obnoxiously whenever misfortune or reversals get dealt to conservative individuals or groups in the public eye, delighting in the trouble they cause when they gleefully and immaturely mock and ridicule said entities.  
 
Trolling is a common weapon used against conservative speech in feeble attempts at silencing them. Most trolls are kids between the ages of 10 and 16 who have no other agenda than amusing themselves with other people's frustration, who show up to get into mischief and stir up trouble on comment sites and on wikis because they most often are not being supervised online by their parents.<ref>[https://www.csoonline.com/article/2225579/most-parents-allow-unsupervised-internet-access-to-children-at-age-8.html Most parents allow unsupervised internet access to children at age 8]</ref> Such trolls often venture to the comment sections of conservative news sites to [[gloating|gloat]] obnoxiously whenever misfortune or reversals get dealt to conservative individuals or groups in the public eye, delighting in the trouble they cause when they gleefully and immaturely mock and ridicule said entities.  
  
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Some of the more outrageous trolls who show up on comment sections of websites have been known to use multiple accounts dishonestly to pretend more "support" for their viewpoints than they really have,<ref>[https://blog.f-secure.com/how-to-deal-with-trolling-bots-and-fake-accounts/ How to deal with trolling, bots and fake accounts?]</ref> and they also often tend to show their age, mentality and lack of intelligence by posting comments containing vulgar and foul language, acting contrary to reality and the truth and acting in an immature, childish and narcissistic manner to provoke anger and reactions from the targeted and other commenters; such comments by those trolls, if made against the same people they target face-to-face and not online from behind the safety of their keyboards, would not be tolerated by the troll's victims and would not end well for the troll.
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Some of the more outrageous trolls who show up on comment sections of websites have been known to use multiple accounts dishonestly to pretend more "support" for their viewpoints than they really have,<ref>[https://blog.f-secure.com/how-to-deal-with-trolling-bots-and-fake-accounts/ How to deal with trolls, bots and fake accounts?]</ref> and they also often tend to show their age, mentality and lack of intelligence by posting comments containing vulgar and foul language, acting contrary to reality and the truth and acting in an immature, childish and narcissistic manner to provoke anger and reactions from the targeted and other commenters; such comments by those trolls, if made against the same people they target face-to-face and not online from behind the safety of their keyboards, would not be tolerated by the troll's victims and would not end well for the troll.
  
 
===Do not feed the trolls===
 
===Do not feed the trolls===
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'''Do Not Feed the Troll''', or '''DNFT''' is a common internet term for ignoring trolls, and allowing them to become bored. The same tactic can be used on liberals and atheists, for different reasons. Generally, it is seen as the best way to deal with trolls. The key motive behind trolling is to cause a reaction. Trolls do not care how well reasoned your argument is, they simply want you to react. By failing to give them a response, they will get bored, and leave.
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'''Do Not Feed the Troll''', or '''DNFT''' is a common internet term for ignoring trolls, and allowing them to become bored. The same tactic can be used on liberals and atheists, for different reasons. Generally, it is seen as the best way to deal with trolls. The key motive behind trolling is to cause a reaction. Trolls do not care how well-reasoned your argument is, they simply want you to react. By failing to give them a response, they will get bored, and leave.
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=== RationalWiki.org, the Kiwi Farms website and individuals going to RationalWiki.org to troll politically left-leaning atheists ===
 
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''See also:'' [[RationalWiki and internet trolls]] and [[Mocking of atheism]] and [[Atheist trolls]] and [[Atheism and humor]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]]
 
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[[File:RationalWiki audience interest in pornography 1-10-2022 1.jpg|thumbnail|1200px|center|[[RationalWiki and web traffic|RationalWiki.org]] is a politically [[leftism|left]] leaning website that skews towards [[atheism]]/[[agnosticism]] in terms of its [[worldview]].
 
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The editors of the website RationalWiki try to portray the website as a thinking person's [[wiki]] where the editors carefully analyze various matters.
 
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Many feminists contend that pornography exploits women.<ref>[https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/feminist-sex-markets/ Feminist Perspectives on Sex Markets], The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, October 6, 2020</ref> RationalWiki is a pro-[[feminism]] website.<ref>[https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Feminism RationalWiki - Feminism]</ref>
 
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[[RationalWiki and web traffic|RationalWiki.org]] is a politically [[leftism|left]] leaning website that skews towards [[atheism]]/[[agnosticism]] in terms of its [[worldview]].
 
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As can be seen in the graphic above from SimilarWeb.com, the 5th most similar website audience in terms of RationalWiki.org is Kiwifarms.net. According to [[Wikipedia]], which is a website founded by an [[atheism|atheist]] and [[agnosticism|agnostic]],  "[[Kiwi Farms]], formerly known as CWCki Forums, is an American Internet forum dedicated to the discussion of online figures and communities it deems "lolcows". The targets of threads are often subject to doxing and other forms of organized group trolling, harassment, and stalking, including real-life harassment by users."<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kiwi_Farms&oldid=1066031381 Wikipedia - Kiwi Farms]</ref> According to the website, Knowyourmeme.com, "Lolcow, a portmanteau of the acronym LOL and cow, is a derogatory slang term used to describe an individual who is deemed highly exploitable, and therefore susceptible to online trolling and flaming, due to his or her display of gullible behavior online."<ref>[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/lolcow Lolcow - Knowyourmeme]</ref>
 
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At the Kiwi Farms website, there is currently 136 pages of discussion pages at the Kiwi Farms website dealing with RationalWiki and much of it is of a disparaging nature.<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rationalwiki.14720/page-136 Kiwi Farms - RationalWiki discussion pages]</ref>  A discussion thread about RationalWiki at the Kiwi Farms website describes RationalWiki as a "Whiny hugbox for spergs and a cluster**** of neverending drama on a rapidly declining website."<ref>[https://kiwifarms.net/threads/rationalwiki.14720/page-136 Kiwi Farms - RationalWiki discussion pages]</ref> Atheists have a reputation for having poor social skills (see: [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence]]). In recent years, the website RationalWiki has seen an enormous loss of web traffic (see: [[RationalWiki and web traffic]]). Apparently, the web visitors of Kiwi Farms consider RationalWikians to be gullible "lolcows" who are easily upset (see also: [[Atheism and gullibility]]).
 
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Both atheists and Muslims have developed a reputation of being thin-skinned (and for wanting to impose their ideology on others). It has been quipped that "Atheism is the [[Atheism is a religion|easiest religion]] to [[Internet Trolling|troll]]".<ref>[https://twitter.com/wefail/status/33097235830526771 "Martin Wefail" on Twitter]</ref><ref>[http://christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/15847/why-is-atheism-such-an-easy-religion-to-troll Atheism is the easiest religion to troll]</ref>  Internet trolls often actively pursue trolling atheists due to their penchant of being [[Atheism and arrogance|so proud]] and [[Atheism and anger|so easily angered]].<ref name="theguardian.com">[https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2012/nov/09/confessions-of-an-internet-troll ''Limmy's Show: Confessions of an internet troll''],'' The Guardian'', Brian Limond
 
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In 2012, ''The Guardian'' published an article entitled ''Limmy's Show: Confessions of an internet troll'' which had the subtitle ''There's a witch-hunt going on against internet trolls right now. But, argues Scots funnyman Limmy, randomly goading atheists, jocks and non-existent techno geeks can be fun''.<ref name="theguardian.com"/>  And of course, being thin-skinned is symptomatic of having excessive pride.
 
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[[Breitbart]] journalist [[Milo Yiannopoulos]], a self-described provocateur, indicates "the reason I have a go at atheists is that it's fun. They are so thin-skinned. They are like [[libertarianism|libertarians]], or...they are like liberal Democrats in the UK or..[[feminism|feminists]] in fact. They are so easy to wind up... They are so touchy."<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1Qao3A4yU4 Milo Yiannopoulos vs Atheism]</ref>
 
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Atheists have reputation for being arrogant (see: [[Atheism and arrogance]]). Most people and cultures take a very dim view of proud people and some cultures are known for actively engaging humbling successful people and/or proud people (Several Anglosphere nations are known for having [[tall poppy syndrome]] and [[Phillipines|Filipinos]] are known for having a "crab culture".  Crabs in a bucket of water will pull down crabs trying to escape from the bucket).
 
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==Biblical advice in dealing with trolls==
 
==Biblical advice in dealing with trolls==
 
[[Matthew 1-9 (Translated)#7:6|Matthew 7:6]]:
 
[[Matthew 1-9 (Translated)#7:6|Matthew 7:6]]:

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The term internet troll refers to someone who acts in a way to disrupt or disparage others, often to attract attention to the troll. As a verb, it means commenting in an unproductive way to spark a reaction. Trolls are commonplace on any website open for comment by the public, and studies have even been done about how unhappy trolls are themselves. Trolling can also be online bullying or cyberbullying.

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A Twitter troll flip flops 180 degrees in 38 minutes after mindlessly trashing Republicans, February 4, 2023.[1]

Jesus explains the existence of trolls in the parable of the tares in Matthew 13:24-30 , specifically verse 25: "But while everyone was asleep, his enemy came and sowed weeds in the middle of the wheat, and then left."

Some entire websites such as Reddit and comment sections on newspapers serve as flypaper for trolls, attracting and keeping them away from littering more productive sites on the internet. Another example is Twitter, which has become an echo chamber for leftists who lack the ability to spend time productively and instead recycle agitprop over and over.

Trolls tend to be deceitful underachievers, who hate people who achieve with integrity. This is illustrated by trolls posting immature comments against Magnus Carlsen, perhaps the greatest chess player ever who works to restore integrity to the game. A Canadian study found that online trolls:

“ reek of what scientists call the Dark Tetrad of noxious personality variables: Machiavellianism (willingness to manipulate and deceive others), narcissism (egotism and self-obsession), psychopathy (the lack of remorse and empathy), and sadism (pleasure in the suffering of others).[2] ”

Internet trolls

See also: Atheist trolls and Individuals trolling atheists

A troll, in Internet parlance, is an entity or character that purposely disrupts a conversation via discussion forum or email, a comment thread on a blog, or another sort of website. For example, on Wikis, users who purposely make disruptive edits are considered trolls. Many people consider this type of activity to be merely childish, while others consider it symptomatic of deviant minds of opposition whereby infiltration by deceit is normal practice. Trolls pretend to be of common thinking, at the same time plotting anti-social crimes. The troll can otherwise be known as a frenemy or as a hoax plant lurking for an opportunity to create trouble.

The term originated in the early 1990s, as an abbreviation of the term "trolling for suckers" (trolling being an angling technique to seek fish). An Internet troll will lock their target, bait the line and spread the net to catch their goal (unwitting victim). Sites such as YouTube, Yahoo! and the Internet Movie Database (prior to the latter's shutdown of its message boards on February 20, 2017) are known for their lax (laid back) and sometimes negative enforcement of community guidelines on their forums and comment sections. The effects of trolling on children who use the internet have been linked to a number of well-documented suicides among youth in years past.

The reason most trolls act the way they do online is that they either have nothing better to do, suffer from low self-esteem as a result of a number of factors, or are anonymous children who have been or are being bullied in real life and turn to the Internet to vent their anger. Many users have been banned from web forums or social networking sites as a result of using foul language or abusive replies to defend themselves against trolls, mostly due to corrupt and one-sided web masters. This is the basis that most trolls operate on. Luring their victims in, getting them stirred up, and then using their reactions against them and pretending that the victim is the bad guy. Anybody who expresses their viewpoints freely and/or touches on divisive and/or sensitive issues is a potential target for trolls.

Trolling is a common weapon used against conservative speech in feeble attempts at silencing them. Most trolls are kids between the ages of 10 and 16 who have no other agenda than amusing themselves with other people's frustration, who show up to get into mischief and stir up trouble on comment sites and on wikis because they most often are not being supervised online by their parents.[3] Such trolls often venture to the comment sections of conservative news sites to gloat obnoxiously whenever misfortune or reversals get dealt to conservative individuals or groups in the public eye, delighting in the trouble they cause when they gleefully and immaturely mock and ridicule said entities.

Some of the more outrageous trolls who show up on comment sections of websites have been known to use multiple accounts dishonestly to pretend more "support" for their viewpoints than they really have,[4] and they also often tend to show their age, mentality and lack of intelligence by posting comments containing vulgar and foul language, acting contrary to reality and the truth and acting in an immature, childish and narcissistic manner to provoke anger and reactions from the targeted and other commenters; such comments by those trolls, if made against the same people they target face-to-face and not online from behind the safety of their keyboards, would not be tolerated by the troll's victims and would not end well for the troll.

Do not feed the trolls

Do Not Feed the Troll, or DNFT is a common internet term for ignoring trolls, and allowing them to become bored. The same tactic can be used on liberals and atheists, for different reasons. Generally, it is seen as the best way to deal with trolls. The key motive behind trolling is to cause a reaction. Trolls do not care how well-reasoned your argument is, they simply want you to react. By failing to give them a response, they will get bored, and leave.

Biblical advice in dealing with trolls

Matthew 7:6:

“ Stop giving holy things to the dogs, and throwing your pearls in front of pigs, if you don't want them to trample them underfoot, and turn against you and tear you apart. ”

Matthew 15:13-14:

“ "Every plant that My heavenly Father has not planted will be torn up by its roots. Let them be. They are the blind leading the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into the ditch." ”

(see also: Proverbs 1:15-19)

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