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Russian warship, go...

...something, something. I forget what exactly, but I remember it sounding quite pithy. ConwayIII (talk) 21:46, April 13, 2022 (EDT)

Accident, sabotage, or a missile strike. I'd reckon one of the first two. Should the Ruskie's go ahead with a Odessa cauldron (which I deem unlikely despite the present feint) it's not necessarily irreplicable. It'll be back in service long before the Bonhomme Richard is back in action for the upcoming invasion of Taiwan. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 22:01, April 13, 2022 (EDT)

Odessa has been off the table since they stalled at Mykolaiv and tried (and completely failed) to go the long way round. Now, a genuine anti-ship capability in and around Odessa releases most of the Ukrainian manpower and materiel that had to be kept there just in case the Russians were still nuts enough to attempt a landing without any additional support arriving from the east. That's bad news for your chums in Kherson, and eventually, bad news for all the land-based supply lines from Crimea sustaining the effort in the south. ConwayIII (talk) 11:49, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

What we're discovering is the extent to which you've been victimized by CIA propaganda. The Russians did not begin the with 120,000 troops; it was more like 80,000. Likewise, to take a city, the rule of thumb is 1:10, meaning it would take 300,000 troops take a city of 3 million like Kyiv. So Milley & the CIA have been feeding you B.S. from the start to create a "Russia failed" narrative. of the 80,000, they moreless split between the Kyiv and the Donbas front.

Casualites have been roughly about 2.5-3 to 1 in favor of the Russians since the start. The only delay in the Donbas right now is concern for civilians, but the Ukies are out of gas and running low on ammunition. If Zelensky and his NATO masters really want to fight in Donbas, they'll lose more men in an afternoon than the United States did in Vietnam in 10 years. NATO doesn't give a rip, and Zelensky probably doesn't either. He's got his villa in Miami already. He'll be good for ratings on The View and Trevor Noah. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:39, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

According to Southfront, NATO was involved in Moskva incident. That's bad news for the planet. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 12:55, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Putin reminds me of the fighter Drago in Rocky IV. He looked big and impressive for awhile, but as Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until he is punched in the mouth." The Russian Army has terrible logistics and poor morale. Conservative (talk) 13:03, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Still breathing and spewing CIA propaganda, huh? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:10, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Particularly terrible logistics for this kind of expeditionary warfare. Structurally, they're geared for territorial defence within or just beyond Russia's borders. The whole thing would start creaking once they got ~100 miles from their dedicated railheads, even if it wasn't beset by reliability issues due to shoddy maintenance and training; large-scale corruption and embezzlement at staff level; and more general petty theft of fuel, spare parts and tools from within the ranks.

warontherocks, seriously? George W. Bush contributes to warontherocks. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:51, April 16, 2022 (EDT)

To add insult to injury, their much vaunted BTG formations turn out to be so light on infantry that they can't adequately screen their armour on manoeuvre. They have to stand off and rely on long-range fires, else they're sitting ducks for small unit ambush as they roll past. Proper close air support would help, but they're apparently incapable of that as well. Epic called and wants all his fails back. ConwayIII (talk) 15:43, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

That's all well and nice. And it's a good argument for nuclear war, seeing that is all that remains to fight NATO aggression. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:58, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

I just don't see the Russians saying, "Woops. We don't want to spoil the planet for a couple of thousand years, so we're just going to have to bow to a bunch of transexual Nazis." I just don't see that as an option they are considering. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:07, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Don't be silly. An otherwise healthy man who employs 20ft tables to avoid catching the 'rona isn't interested in starting WWIII. At some point, Putin will cut his losses and try his best to cling on to whatever remains of his power at home. He might not have much of an army left, but the FSB will still be intact and he'll still have most of his Rosgvardiya units ready to crack skulls on the streets of Moscow and St. Petersburg. ConwayIII (talk) 18:27, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

There again, CIA propaganda is taking advantage of your lack of short term memory. Putin's not going to forget the U.S. biolabs on his doorstep, and he's already committed to resolving the problem.

And here we're not speaking of hypotheticals. We've recently experienced what U.S. bioweapons research can do. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:44, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

And for the record and psyops, most of the planet, Asia, Africa, Europe, and the Americas, has not forgotten either. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:46, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Rob, you don't believe this biolab / bioweapons guff any more than the Russians do. It's why it only emerges periodically when you're both stuck for a talking point. Putin will continue losing this war because it turns out he never had the army to pull it off in the first place. Sanctions will remain in place on Russia until he's dead and gone, and all the other Russian war criminals have been handed over for prosecution.

Sweden and Finland will join NATO and China will find it's suddenly no longer quite so interested in the idea of an amphibious assault across 80 miles of the Taiwan Strait. A great many books will be written about Putin's monumental strategic blunder and its wider geopolitical impact. We're watching history being made in real-time, man. ConwayIII (talk) 10:38, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Oh so you're a biolab denier now. Do you oppose inspection of the sites and documents, too.

And you're becoming an object lesson in the use of psyops. If the MSM doesn't talk about it, this fairytale world you live in becomes reality. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:25, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, man. I'm a Ukrainian Nazi cabal denier, too, but Russian state TV is increasingly pushing a "Satanist" angle, so perhaps we'll arguing less about that in the coming weeks. You should run with it. Some good, red-blooded Q-type stuff could do wonders for your web traffic and would really spice up your Putin fan fiction reporting on the war. ConwayIII (talk) 17:48, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

I think your world of psyops and make believe is starting to crash down around you; your only choice now is accept reality or eat a nuke. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:43, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Whatever you say, Captain Cauldron. At least get a moon base or secret lair in there somewhere. ConwayIII (talk) 12:55, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Go back and reread studies on the Battle of Kursk. You not only will learn about Russian military doctrine, but also about the dangers of over reliance on technology, and perpetual inferiority of American armored tank warfare (who didn't even participate in the battle). RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:18, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

I could write an Essay on the subject. The Germans over reliance on the latest, new improved technology bite them in the butt, when they ran out of spare parts and could not deliver to the battlefield, whereas the Russian "one size fits all" T-34 proved superior. Americans could never compete with German and Russian tank building, cause you have to factor in the cost of building ships and airplanes to deliver them to the battlefield. Since 1945, (even before the creation of NATO) the U.S. has always relied on nukes for deterrence, and not armour. The facade of American tank warfare has been nothing but a waste of money for the military industrial complex for more than 75 years, kept alive by American congressmen in the 1950s and 60s who served in tank units and squandered billions in arms spending (which the Russians noticed. A debate rages right now about "Has the tank gone instinct as a weapon of war like horse?" [1] Others propose equipping it with AWACS radar and AI to detect drones and lasar guided missiles (never mind the idea of robotic tanks). Yah, that's the solution, more expensive technology despite the lessons of history. Here the Russians cannot be accused of squandering billions on useless technology in an arms race. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:45, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Right now, your Ukrainian Nazi buds cannot even deliver gas or drinking water to the battlefield, whereas the Russians don't have a big problem changing their dirty underwear everyday on the battlefield. [2] RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:50, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Putin/Russia is very much like Drago in Rocky IV. Drago took jabs from afar due to having long arms, but once closer quarter fighting/punching happened, he couldn't take the closer quarter punches for long. Drago didn't have as much heart as Rocky. Being that the Ukrainians are fighting on their home turf, they are far more motivated. Conservative (talk) 19:11, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

I think you are very poorly informed and brainwashed. That's not what's happening, at all. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:26, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Ukraine is now forming penal battalions. You, being a poorly informed American, probably have no idea what that is. So it'll take a crash course to explain, which I don't have the time at the moment. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:31, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Then you have this posted right there on Facebook [3] two days ago, right before 1,026 Ukie Marines (i.e. professional soldiers, not Nazis or conscripted convicted murderers in a penal battalion) surrendered enmasse.

"...We talked to the commander in chief [Zelensky] who promised to unblock. We talked with a Garantee who guaranteed us either a political or military solution of the situation. For more than a month, the Marines fought without refilling ammunition, without food, without water, almost a lacquer from the puddle and died in packs. The mountain of wounded makes up almost half of the crew. Those who have unbroken limbs and can walk, return in order. Infantry all died... Gradually we are coming to an end. Wise generals advise taking ammunition from your enemy. Probably not extinct these Sava parquettes [?], so many people will die for them in vain. There were chances. There were opportunities, but due to the silliness, they were not implemented. No one wants to communicate with us anymore because we are written [off]. ..."

These, the best professional, non-Nazi, non-criminal (whom professional soldiers resent cause they give the soldiering profession a bad reputation) soldiers seem a bit demoralized, openly criticizing their commander-in-chief Zelensky and commanding generals with "safety parachutes" to escape the impending disaster, doesn't do much good for new recruits or the Ukrainian civilian population - now at the mercy of criminal gangs that Zelensky armed (incidentally, Bucha was the heart of where Zelensky handed out AK-47s to any criminal mobster who wanted one at the start of the war). RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:42, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Right now, Putin, with his 83% approval rating for handling the war, is being criticized for being too restrained in response to all the outrages and war crimes committed by NATO. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:53, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Footnote: "lacquer from the puddle" means they took rainwater or melted snow, tried to boil it before drinking, but got sick and died anyway. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:59, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

So, your motivated heroes are drinking water from mud puddles. Do you really think your repeating CIA B.S., is going to stop other Ukrainians from hearing the truth? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:02, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

And next week, given the size of the vote of whatever Le Pen gets, can be considered an anti-globalist, anti-NATO, anti-Ukraine, pro-Russia pro-Putin vote, cause the French are a little bit more informed and aware of the issues at stake than American consumers of MSM/CIA agitprop. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:19, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

The Ukies don't do quite so good in the open fields of the Donbas, [4] vs the urban areas where they use civilians as human shields (trained by the Americans) and the Russians have bent over backwards to protect civilians. Putin is getting a lot of criticism for this. But 60,000 Ukies will soon be drinking water out of mud puddles, not just the 4,000 in the Azovstal. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:31, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Propaganda and psyops has its place in warfare; the U.S. tried to combine it with military action in Vietnam and failed. In the internet age, I don't think you can rely on it solely (even with NATO transfers and commanders on the ground). Sure, psyops won Ukraine for NATO in the 2014 Maidan coup (that, with the addition of Nazi violence), But the Russians have sat quietly observing all this for more than 8 years now. Nobody can make atrocity propaganda like the Russians can, and there will be Nazi Tribunals before all this is over. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:41, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Putin is a dictator who controls state television. Who cares if gullible Russians approve of Putin? In Afghanistan, once the dead Russian soldiers started stacking up in terms of arriving back in Russia, the Russian people complained and Russia pulled out. The same will happen in the Ukraine conflict if it drags on. Russia is a doomed empire with a low fertility rate. In war, when only sons die, it has a big impact on Russian families. In the Russia/Afghanistan war, the loss of Afghani sons wasn't as traumatic to Afghanis because the larger Afghani/Muslim families had more than one son. Plus, the Afghani's had the home team advantage. They knew the terrain and fought harder because they were defending their homeland. Ukraine has the same home team advantage. Conservative (talk) 00:12, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

P.S. The Nazis died out in the the 20th century. Now there is just a small population of neo-nazis who are very ineffectual. I hope you stop clinging to the notion that a large swath of Ukranians are Nazi German nationists. Just thought I would give you a heads up about this matter. Conservative (talk) 00:33, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Tell that to the mother's of the 60,000 about to eat a thermobaric in the Donbas. Question: When French voters vote the dictator Putin next week and against the globalist Macron, will you still be spewing Western globalist agitprop? See also yesterday's Wall Street Journal: Deep suspicion of hegemonic media narratives has earned Vladimir Putin some sympathy in the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia. Or the German voters who already are ready to throw out Chancellor Schmaltz on his ear. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

P.S You don't know what a Nazi is. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Ukraine's neo-Nazi battalion, the Azov Battalion, is estimated to have 900 soldiers which is not a lot. Ukraine does have a neo-nazi problem, but Putin's claim of denazification as a justification for his landgrab is overblown. Ukraine has a leader who is Jewish. How can that be if Ukraine has a huge Nazi/neo-nazi problem? Conservative (talk) 00:46, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Rinat Akhmetov, funded Zelensky's campaign, funded the Azov battalion, owns the Azovstal, and is Jewish. [5]

Spartacus International says this in the Intro to Reinhard Heydrich: "The clear implication is that Heydrich senior was Jewish, and throughout his life Reinhard Heydrich sought to suppress details of his Jewish ancestry. From his mother's gravestone he is said to have erased the suggestive forename Sarah. (1)" You have to read down more than two dozen paragraphs for this: "Hermann Göring issued orders to Reinhard Heydrich to submit a comprehensive plan for "a final solution of the Jewish question." RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 06:36, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

You seriously don't have a clue what your talking about, only recycling more Western agitprop when the Nazis could not be hidden. The parliament speaker is a Nazi. The head of SBU is a Nazi. SBU is staffed with Nazis. Prazy Sektor (Right Sector) are Nazis. Pravy Sektor did all the killings of the "Heavenly Hundred". Pravy Sektor did just did a bunch more atrocities in the LNR. [6].

What remains of Avoz right now is about 2,000 holed up in Azovstal. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:35, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

It wasn't the Russians who caused all this damage - it was the NATO-trained Nazis. [7] And the survivors are telling their stories. Only Fox news and the rest will never report it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:55, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

I will admit to not following the Ukraine/Russia war closely. Ukraine/Russia are both corrupt regimes with low fertility rates. They are not destined to be great/powerful regimes in the future if you take power to be the full spectrum of power such as economic/cultural/military influence. On the other hand, Russia has nukes/oil/gas so it will continue to have some measure of influence and not be an obscure nation. I know during WWII and afterward, America has had a large focus on Europe, but Europe's influence is going to wane due to their expected aging/shrinking population and high levels of sovereign debt.

In terms of future influence, these groups appear to have the upper hand due to their demographic growth and hands on potential levers of power: the Chinese Christians; the Latino North Americans/Central Americans/South Americans (immigration); the Latino evangelicals; religious conservatives in America; and the Christians/Muslims/Pentecostals. In 2012, the W. Edwards Deming Institute published a report by the World Future Society which indicated: "Since communism’s collapse, religion has been experiencing resurgence that will likely continue beyond 2100. All the world’s religions are poised to have enormous numeric growth (with the exceptions of tribal religions and Chinese folk religion), as well as geographic spread with the continuation of migration trends. Adherents of the world’s religions—perhaps particularly Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists—will continue to settle in the formerly Christian and ever-expanding cities of Europe and North America, causing increases of religious pluralism in these areas. Christians and Muslims together will encompass two-thirds of the global population—more than 7 billion individuals. In 2100, the majority of the world’s 11.6 billion residents will be adherents of religious traditions."[8] See: Desecularization and Religion and its projected increase in the 22nd century Conservative (talk) 02:23, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, that's what all German's said after WWII, too. Yet they were held responsible.

Mariupol Residents Expose War Crimes.

Here's the problem you face: you need to figure out fairly quickly that there's a difference between Ukrainian Nazis (nationalists or whatever label) and the professional military. Just like the difference between the SS and the Wehrmacht. That way you can blame Ukrainian Nazis (who number well beyond 800) for all the atrocities, as well as the tax dollars you spent and verbal support you gave to them. There is no way the United States, NATO, the CIA, the Deep State, Republicans, etc., can hide or deny what has happened over the past 8 years. Putin and the Russians have been viewing this for EIGHT YEARS now, and Western media has been more intent on smearing Putin rather than listening to ANYTHING the residents of Donbas and the Russians have said for 8 years.

None of this happened overnight in the past two months; the Russians have been preparing to finish the business their grandfathers left unfinished for the past 8 years. And it is still far from over. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:20, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

The problem, NATO and the United States are trying to hold to their "rules based order" which began after 1945; only the US breaks those same rules in Iraq, Syria, Kosovo, Libya, Afghanistan when it suits them to kill innocent people. The rest of the planet, not blinded by the gay agenda in the US & the West, has had enough of it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:27, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

I added some info to my above post. It helps explain why my interest in the Ukrainian/Russian war is low and will probably continue to be low (I also have a full plate of things to do in terms of the things I have planned to do in 2022). Setting aside that there are some cases where there are just wars, wars are things to be avoided and best to be ended soon. I hope the hostilities between the Russians/Ukrainians ends soon. I may be mistaken, but I don't think the Russians have a stomach to incur large amounts of Russian soldier deaths. So I don't expect the war to last long as far as it being a high intensity conflict. Like I said above, the Russians pulled out of Afghanistan due to domestic complaints as far as Russian soldier deaths in households with a lot of only son households (The Russians have a low fertility rate).Conservative (talk) 02:39, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

This month will determine the future of global politics for the next 30 years. Why do you think globalists are in such a panic over Putin?RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 03:52, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

This month is not going to determine the future of global politics for tne next 30 years. Because Putin considers Ukraine potentially joining NATO as being intolerable, he will hang on to the bitter end. Given the history of WWII where Hitler/Germany marched into Russia and caused a huge loss of Russian life, it is not surprising that Russia takes this stance - despite NATO not launching wars of aggression. At the very least Putin will do a face saving consolidation of his territory gains in Eastern Ukraine. And the Russians will back Putin due to nationalism. On the other hand, the Ukrainians will continue to be a thorn in the side of Russia due to their nationalism - probably for months/years. It is my hope that the dust settles as soon as possible. My guess is that Russia will gain the territory with Russian separatists and get Ukraine to agree to be a buffer state that will not join NATO. The sooner this happens, the less bloodshed that will be shed.

The West never should have dangled the carrot of Ukraine potentially joining NATO - even though Ukraine was far too corrupt to join NATO and was not willing to give up its corrupt politics. Great powers do not have a history of tolerating border states that they see as being threatening and the Cuban missile crisis and Ukraine attest to this matter. And the Ukrainians should have noticed that Putin is not a man of great tolerance and was bound to attack Ukraine if they made overtures of wanting to join NATO. In other words, if you find yourself in a cage with a gorilla, you don't go out of your way to upset that gorilla. At some point political realism needs to trump one's attachment to various political ideologies.

If this war drags on, not only will many Ukrainian civilians lose their lives, but many Russian soldiers will die as well. In addition, there will be a lot of hunger/starvation in Africa and the Middle East which depends on food/fertilizer from Ukraine/Russia.

I am not very hopeful due to the fact that bumbling Biden, who should be acting as the leader of the free world, is not respected by America's friends or enemies. If Biden had done his job, America would still have energy independence and the petro state Russia would have been too broke to launch a war on Ukraine. During the Trump years, Russia did not attack Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 09:15, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Stop embarrassing yourself. You know nothing of the facts and your analytical powers in this area are lacking. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:26, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

If anyone needs "face saving", it's the globalist world order. And you're doing a bang-up job at promoting it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:48, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

The liberal globalist world order is dead or close to it. First, it depended on the USA protecting global trade at little/no charge to many other nations. The USA was pivoting away from defending/supporting Europe and Trump launched an America first policy. And Trump demanded that the other NATO nations pony up more money. The USA losing the Afghanistan War chiseled away at the liberal global order. The USA under Bush failed to make the Middle East a bunch of liberal democracies. In addition, we live in multipolar war now. China is stronger, but its heading for big trouble in the future due to its real estate market and its up coming demographic problem. Conservative (talk) 14:46, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Well, you can't have it both ways - arguing its dead or near dead and trash Putin for trying to destroy it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:06, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

When did I trash Putin for trying to end the liberal global order? I never did - that's when. For example, earlier I pointed out the liberals failed to protect feminism and the homosexual agenda in Afghanistan. In addition, I cited University of Chicago John Mearsheimer of the realism school when it came to the end of liberal, global hegemy and baiting Russia into the Russia/Ukraine conflict.

Just because I refuse to be a Putin apologist and have a realistic view of Putin (autocratic kleptocrat), doesn't make me an apologist for the liberal, global world order.

Realistically, the USA is fairly hard wired into being anti-Rusky post Cold War. It was fairly inevitable that the USA have a lot of Russian detractors - especially since Putin is an autocratic kleptocrat. Conservative (talk) 15:33, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Your quoting Mearsheimer is totally off-base. Nowhere does Mearsheimer attempt to demonize Putin, as you attempted to do by putting words in his mouth on MPR. Your shilling for globalists and the Deep State.

In Mearsheimer's most recent video, posted about 5 days ago, he echoes exactly what I'm saying - that US policy is wrongheaded, that the US needs to focus on China and that the U.S. NEEDS Putin and Russia in that conflict with China. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:08, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

As early as 2017, Bloomberg declared the liberal global order dead.[9]

The seeds of the decline of the West were seeded in the 1960s. The pill and prosperity led to decadence and demographic decline in the West. Conservative (talk) 15:39, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

There you go again, spewing Deep State and Clintonite ("hardwired") talking points, and being an apologist for the globalist world order. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:39, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

If you can't say anything positive about Vladimir Putin, then just shut up. Don't keep repeating Trump-Russia-Hillary Clinton-Jake Sullivan-Joe Biden talking points. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:43, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

RobS, you are the proverbial general fighting the last war. You are like the Japanese soldiers in remote islands who didn't know that WWII was over. The liberal global world over is dead and buried. Even the leftists in China are against feminism/homosexuality now due to the Chinese heading down the road of demographic decline. Conservative (talk) 15:45, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

A quick note: Given China's Confucian past, it was never going to fully embrace feminism ("Deeply rooted in Chinese tradition and culture is the notion that male children are more desirable because they possess the capability to care for the elderly, work toilsome jobs, and perform critical ancestral practices. Female infanticide, where a family aborts a pregnancy of a female child to have a (first-born) male child, is connected with the assertions of practitioners, based on Confucian texts.").[10] Conservative (talk) 15:50, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

There are plenty of politically right leaning, conservative pundits who are critics of Putin (Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, etc.). Conservative (talk) 15:54, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

In addition, I endeavor not to wear political blinders and try to be objective. In the past, I certainly have noted that the Russians/Putin being anti-homosexuality was a failure of liberal hegenemy in the world. Conservative (talk) 16:00, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Your obfuscation is nonsense. Alluding to China, atheism, or the demographic prospects of Nigeria is off topic. Admit you made a mistake in spewing liberal anti-Russian hate speech, and move on. Stop defending the globalist world order. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:03, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

I am not anti-Russian. A few years back, I met a semi-homeless Russian-American older lady at work and let her be a guests because I felt sorry her. She was staying at lesbian couple's house temporarily and very unhappy about her plight and I felt sorry for her. I've also cited some of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work at Conservapedia (see: Atheism and Mass Murder). And I have always been a fan of various Russian authors (Tolstoy, Chekhov). Conservative (talk) 16:20, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

In addition, I listen to Russian Orthodox music and link to it at Conservapedia.[11]. I also listen to and link to Russian/Slavic music at Conservapedia.[12] Conservative (talk) 16:24, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Well that's good. What do you think of contemporary Russian popular music, like this one? Tell me, do you think she's looking for Ukrainian Nazis or fascist NATO fighters? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:48, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

I think much of the world is in decline in a lot of ways so its bound to effect music, art, etc. There is one good thing happening. Perhaps with the developed Western world, Russia and China facing aging populations, subreplacement fertility levels and more obesity, there will be less war. It harder to fight when you have to get around with a cane or wheelchair or when you are 50-75 pounds overweight. The U.S. is finding it harder to recruit soldiers post overweight America. In 2019, it was reported that 36.0% of Russian adults have obesity. Must be all that vodka drinking. No wonder why Russia is finding it hard to keep Russian army troop levels high and is bringing in mercanaries. Conservative (talk) 18:30, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Can't you see what's going on? The Poles, Czechs, Romanians, Finns, etc. are supplying their old junk to Ukraine, not because they are afraid of Putin or Russia, but because they are given, free of charge courtesy of you and me the taxpayer and the military industrial complex, free NATO upgraded replacement equipment. The rest is propaganda. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

If Putin were smarter, he would have amassed all those troops on the Russian border and then negotiated from a position of strength. Before this war on Ukraine, many people thought Putin was some kind of brilliant, 3D chess, geopolitical strategist. But now, it looks like he was just an opportunist who took advantage of a corrupt Ukraine for awhile and complacent Europeans who were in decline.

The Italians have a saying that a fish rots from the head down. Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and it turns out his military officers were corrupt thieves too and that hurt Russian military readiness in terms of how equiptment was kept up, etc. So the Russian army has terrible logistics. The Russian Army is no match for NATO/US forces. Hopefully, the war does not escalate and/or turn nuclear. The sooner the war ends, the better it will be for Russia/Ukraine/Europe. Military spending causes needless deaths and cuts into domestic spending. Also, in WWII and post WWII wars, many civilians die in war.

It is rich that the West who burnt Dresden/Hiroshima to a crisp, is calling Russians war criminals due to their shelling of cities. The West can't have it both ways when it comes to Ukrainian civilians. Out of one side of their mouth, the West brags that Ukrainian civilians are taking out Russian soldiers and military hardware, but out of the other side of their mouth they are decrying the shelling of Ukrainian cities. It is a sad truth that in modern war, there are a lot of civilian casualties/injuries.

Unfortunately, the Japanese were so militaristic/fanatical in WWII, that the nuclear bombing of Japan may have been necessary, but I have my doubts. I cite: "Nuclear weapons shocked Japan into surrendering at the end of World War II—except they didn't. Japan surrendered because the Soviet Union entered the war. Japanese leaders said the bomb forced them to surrender because it was less embarrassing to say they had been defeated by a miracle weapon."[13] Conservative (talk) 18:53, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Your peeing in the wind again, and showing you haven't a clue what you're talking about. If I were you, I'd just stop mentioning the name "Putin". Maybe you can say "Russia" or "vodka" or whatever other words to make yourself look informed, but like most Americans and MSM, you need to get off this horse. It's a losser. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:58, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

I don't feel sorry for Putin who is probably the world's richest man via his kleptocracy and very foolish when it came to launching this war. Post Russia/Afghanistan War, he should have known that the USA/West would supply Ukraine with very effective military hardware like Javelin/Stinger missiles. Some people never learn. Sandal clad Afghanis took down Russian airplanes/helicopters with USA supplied Stinger missiles during the Russia/Afghani War. Conservative (talk) 19:13, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

As far as anti-Russian sentiments being widespead in the USA post the Cold War, it takes time for national psyches to heal. The Chinese are still angry at Japan/West for their "century of humiliation". And during the 1970s when the Japanese were heavily competing against the USA in automobile sales, anti-Japanese sentiments were widespread in the USA. During a 2006 strike at a local Japanese factory in the USA, the workers posted inflamatory material on walls that made references to Hiroshima.

While I am a big believer in forgiveness and believe that the USA acted very graciously towards Germany/Japan post WWII, there is often lingering resentments amoung some people in societies after a war. Conservative (talk) 19:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Where's Will Smith when you need him? "Get that word out of your mouth!" RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:42, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

"Hi! I'm an idiot! I love spewing globalist talking points!" You sound like ConwayIII. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:46, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Even though this is a violation of the Geneva Convention, it is still worth looking at to understand the mindset of Russians living in Ukraine. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 22:29, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Trans: We loved Ukraine, we lived in Ukraine. We stood under this flag, and now we are ashamed. Ashamed that you brought it to such an extent. We don't hate you Ukrainians, we don't hate your flag and your customs, but you're used to kneeling in front of Europe, in front of America.

Russians are an incredibly patient people. I've never seen or met people of a collective or ethnic group with patience seemingly built into their DNA. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 22:37, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Stop and think for a moment: your "Putin bad" narratives are no different than "Orange man bad", and originate from exactly the same sources. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:09, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

Interesting comment from View from Moscow:

Turning a blind eye to the neo-Nazi brigades in the Ukraine emboldens their compatriots in the West to organize similarly. The Fascist problem will only get bigger, and before you know it right wing protestors in Europe will be brandishing weapons. They will be led by the battle hardened Nazis that escape Ukraine. In the US, brother groups will up their Fascist tactics and come to DC on Jan. 6, 2024 armed to get the job done this time. The West failed to stop the Fascist movement before WW2. Will they do it again? Yes. Look at Ukraine’s Azov division equipped with the finest Western arms. [14]

And that really ain't half the story, given how many Javelins & NLAWS have been stolen and are on the blackmarket right now. As one commentator put it: "I wouldn't want to be Scholtz or Macron, riding in a car in Berlin or Paris anytime in coiming years." RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:14, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Here you have it, a Ukrainian Marine blaming the Azov Nazis for the civilian atrocities. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:50, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

We're seeing the same thing that occurred in WWII. When professional soldiers fighting for God and country, like German soldiers did, see the work of the SS or Azov Battalion in killing innocents, it is very demoralizing. And at this point Zelensky cannot argue that he didn't know. Now it is up to you, the reader, to make a moral judgment based on the evidence and your conscience, not on repeating propaganda lies. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:57, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

You may think this is funny....

You may think this is funny, are bored with the Ukraine war and want to move on to the Libs of TikTok, or replacing your covid mask with a Ukrainian flag, but I assure you the U.S. provocation on the Moskva is being treated like Pearl Harbor or 9/11 in Russia. Don't say you have not been warned. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:02, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

All the sinking of the Moskva did was delay action on the Donbas front 3 or 4 days while missiles from elsewhere were brought into place. There will be a hell of a price to pay for a fleeting propaganda victory. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:05, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

The Putin Price hike is responsible for genocide

I thought some of our RW friends were amateurish, but I think now we see where White House speech writers get their material from. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:45, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

"Who cares how many innocent men, women and children get killed, but gol darnit, that SOB is making me pay $7 a gal." RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:48, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Frankly Joe, since you understand and articulate the views of your voter base so clearly, please keep them. I don't think we want them. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:51, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

I am certain this kind of rhetoric that White House speech writers prepare will appeal to angry, hate-filled people with no moral conscience. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:59, April 14, 2022 (EDT)

Putin is a corrupt dictator who is currently doing a purge. Russia is going to take a financial hit due to this war.

The most influence that Russians are going to have on me in the future is that I am thinking of buying one of those cool Russian fur caps in 2022/2023. Who knows? I might even learn a couple of Russian dance moves as they look fun.[15][16] In 2023, I plan on attending a few weddings. It will be a relief from the 2021/2022 pandemic. Maybe I will do a few cool Russian dance moves at the weddings! And I am seriously considering buying the classic movie Dr. Zhivago as well as watching the excellent 1982 movie Coming Out of the Ice a second time which was based on a true story.

There are some admirable things about the Russians in terms of world history. The Russians are a bit like Germans. They are capable of doing spectacular things - both good and bad. For example, the Germans started Protestantism, but also launched WWII. The Russians created a lot of good chess players, novelists and were the first to explore space. But they also were instrumental in enslaving a lot of people under communism. Conservative (talk) 03:14, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Russia, like Ukraine, is multicultural. Neither Stalin nor Lenin were Russians, so I think many Russians would argue that they were victims and enslaved by communism. And it's the Muslim Chechens right now defeating the Banderites. You need to see the video of the Chechen commander speaking to Ukrainian POWs, warning them of the danger of extremist ideology, comparing Ukrainian Banderites to Wahhabis which he's been fighting in Chechnya for decades now. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:02, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Wahhabi or non-Wahhabi, Chechen militias have proven to be just as bloodthirsty as the Banderites themselves. The fact that they are even in Ukraine at all is evidence that war crimes are being committed by both sides, as if the "crisis war" dynamic of the conflict itself wasn't enough. Although let's face it. This conflict is almost certainly going to become part of a much larger global war, so in the end we'll only be seeing the losing side end up being prosecuted. Such is the nture of geopolitics...--Geopolitician (talk) 01:07, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

That's a pretty racist, bigoted, and Islamophobic statement. Take this as a warning. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

"Chechen" is a nationality; "Banderite" is an ideology. See, this I why I do not believe you have any conservative credentials. You come here to spew hate and racism, looking for some other troll to agree with you, pretending to have "conservative" views. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:26, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Frankly, I am sick of your bigoted stereotype of what a conservative is. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:31, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

I'm sorry, what am I supposed to make of mercenaries who take orders from the man who singlehandedly turned a large section of the Russian Caucasus into a de facto quasi-Sharia no-go zone, and has even publicly called for the killing of Russian police officers on his turf?[17]--Geopolitician (talk) 09:40, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You're trolling again. The subject is a national group, not an individual for whom you use to justify posting racist comments. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:41, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Wrong. The subject is a group of mercenaries who answer to one man. There are also Chechen militias which don’t answer to that man, but unfortunately most of not all of them are even worse, as they answer to Wahhabism instead. Those groups are supposedly fighting on the Ukrainian side, by the way.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:14, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

So, are you doubling down on your racist statement that an ethnic group known as "Chechens" are bloodthirsty by nature? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 15:44, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

No, I'm just pointing out the nature of the various Chechen militias. That doesn't mean all Chechens are bad. Just like the existence of al-Qaeda and ISIS doesn't mean all Arabs are bad or all Muslims are bad. But we can't be PC about this issue either. Is that a tough pill to swallow? Sure. But we gotta do it.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:03, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Then you need to make that utterly clear in your postings, and refrain from racist generalizations. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:07, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Okay, I apologize for that.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:20, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Trump said the other day "They [Ukraine] tried to screw me." [18] "They", being Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian Banderite on the DNC payroll colluding with the Ukrainian Embassy, spread fake news Trump-Russia stories to Yahoo News and others in 2016. Later, another Banderite, Alexander Vindman tried to take Trump out with the impeachment (Trump was impeding the war that is now ongoing).

For the record, Banderite = Nazi. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:36, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, and Gen. Mike Flynn was taken out by the Deep State cause he wanted to make peace with Russia over Crimea and ally with them in the war against radical Islamic terrorism and Chinese hegemony. Now the Deep State thinks it can wipe out Russia and China alone by itself. That's insanity. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 06:51, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Flynn wasn't prosecuted because he wanted to make peace with Russia. He was prosecuted because he sided with Erdogan after the Deep State tried to overthrow him on behalf of the Saudi regime. Oh, look. Another reason to call the Saudis our enemy. Much of the Deep State answers to them. They control much of our government.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:07, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Sheesh, are you really that...nevermind. I suppose Flynn was not driven from office over his call with the Russian Ambassador Kislyak. Can you not even discern the difference between prosecution for trumped up B.S. and being driven from office over trumped up B.S.? Lord, give me patience. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:18, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Flynn was charged with both Russia and Turkey-related conduct. See page 5 of the "Statement of the Offense" which served for the basis of his guilty plea here.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:58, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You're trolling again. Flynn was not forced from office over anything he was prosecuted for. You are attempting to justify the harassment and prosecution of Flynn now. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:46, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Flynn was forced from office because he crossed the Deep State on matters relating to Russia and Turkey. Pointing that out does not amount to justifying anything. If anything, it amounts to saying that the Deep State’s so-called justifications are B.S.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:14, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, because he envisioned an alliance of Chechens, Russians, and possibly even Ukrainians and Iran against radical Salafi Islamic terrorism. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:05, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

If only. In fact, he advocated the typical neocon narrative about how "it's all about Iran" and that "Saudi Arabia didn't hurt nobody" prior to his political persecution. Looks like the other neocons didn't think he went far enough.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:20, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You keep bringing up the prosecution of Mike Flynn - which is totally irrelevant to this discussion on foreign policy - unless you are a Democrat and think you can get mileage out of it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:15, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

So, my conclusion is, you believe in the criminalization of policy differences, and justify FBI doctoring evidence. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:17, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You either have terrible reading comprehension or are just lying again. You were the one who brought up Flynn first, not me. And only I posted the "Statement of the Offense" document in order to refute your factually incorrect claim that the trumped up charges related solely to Russia. I did not at any point say that any of the charges were valid, but as usual you like to put things in my mouth, because "I don't know and I don't care".--Geopolitician (talk) 19:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

The reference to Flynn has to do with U.S. policy toward Russia, and nothing whatsoever with you, James Comey, Peter Strzok, Robert Mueller, the NYT, WaPo, CNN etc etc etc B.S. conspiracy charges - which is the only thing that comes to your mind at the mention of Flynn. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:31, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You implied that Flynn was persecuted solely because he wanted peace with Russia (which, by the way, is a 180 from the position he held not even a year earlier). You're right that he was persecuted because he wanted peace with Russia, but that's not the only reason why. That's my basic point. If you have a problem with me being somewhat pedantic about it, then say it. Don't resort to making false accusations against me.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:41, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

I think you're just trolling me again. In a discussion of, what you would call, "the Deep State neocon conspiracy" for war with Russia, you seized upon the opportunity to remind the world that you think Flynn is a criminal, rather than participate in discussing Russian sanctions. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:47, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

And you've admitted as much several times over at least the past year that you think Republicans are America's number one enemy. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:52, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Not Republicans. Neocons. Is there not a difference between the two?--Geopolitician (talk) 19:54, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Not in your mind. A no-name GOP rising star from Iowa, with no influence or control over foreign policy as governor, is the number one enemy of America, according to you. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:00, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

She gave the official GOP response to Biden's SOTU address. And she used that platform to peddle neocon arguments regarding Ukraine. She is one of the many Republicans who are, to quote your own words, "standing up for globalist fascism and Nazism."--Geopolitician (talk) 20:15, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Why don't you take on the globalists and fascists responsible for the Bucha massacre, then, like Blinken, Sullivan, and Nuland, and leave poor Kim Reynolds alone who had nothing to do with it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:59, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You're telling me to leave her alone over a month and a half after I last edited her page, which was well before either of us had any knowledge of what was going on in Bucha. Interesting, but no matter. Now that you've brought up Nuland, I've noticed that a very important detail has been missing from her page, and corrected that issue. You're welcome.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Interesting tidbit: One of Gonzalo Lira's last uploads before his disappearance 5 days ago was an hour-long presentation on the life and times of Nuland, going back to her grandfather. [19] Gonzalo spent a lot of time researching Nuland. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:28, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

"Victoria Nuland is a currently the undersecretary of state for political affairs in the United States state department. she is a career bureaucrat, a career foreign service officer, and she is the woman most responsible for the current war that is going on here in Ukraine. one could argue, as I will argue here, that she directly led to this war. she instigated it, and she manipulated and bullied and cajoled all of the players to get into this war that will result in the destruction of the Ukrainian nation, the scattering of the Ukrainian people, and just misery all around. she is the one responsible. she is why there is a war here in Ukraine.... I'm going to argue that in so far as Victoria Newlin is concerned, because when you start looking into her biography, you realize all kinds of very, very interesting things about her, her background, the hatred and rage that she carries in her heart, which she is expressing by way of this destruction of Ukraine in hopes of ultimately destroying Russia, which is her real aim...

RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:46, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Then we got this twofer: Putin not only is destroying the Nazis, he's destroying Europe's biggest polluters:

"Mariupol - the first city in terms of pollution in Ukraine and Europe. Today, from the list of 10 largest polluters of Ukraine, 2 companies are located in Mariupol and both are part of the Metinvest group. Every year, in addition to their main products, companies also supply: carbon monoxide, sulfur dioxide, dust and metals, nitrogen oxides and other pollutants. The first cast iron in this area of ​​the plant was obtained on August 12, 1933. During its construction, which began in 1930, a collective cemetery was found on the territory, in which, in several tiers, there were 120 burials of people, with various weapons, jewelry, household items. It is worth noting the extremely unfortunate location of Azovstal's facilities - on the one hand almost in the heart of the city, and on the other directly on the shores of the Sea of ​​Azov. In residential areas, the level of pollution exceeds 17 times the permissible norms. And in 2012, local residents, unable to withstand the difficult and really harmful living conditions, held the largest environmental protest in the history of Ukraine, forcing the production giants to begin modernization, reduce emissions. However, coke production cannot be environmentally friendly. In addition, Azovstal ranks only second in terms of pollution in the city… Most of the data in the video dates back to 2012, as the company and other official sources have not provided specific figures on pollution and emissions since then. The company's website provides information on ongoing modernization processes and investments and investments in environmentally friendly production, but there are no specific data on the possibilities of reducing pollution. Therefore, it is hard to believe that the amount of emissions has decreased many times. It seems that the information has remained relevant. [20]

RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 21:58, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Expanding on the above points: The persecution and prosecution of Mike Flynn, beginning in 2015 & 2016 after the 2014 Maidan coup (and his firing), is more evidence of how long the planning of this war with Russia has been in the works. No one accuses Flynn of being a "neocon", a group you so courageously crusade against, yet you've slandered Flynn here in this thread as a criminal no less than three times, rather than pick up the evidence of a "neocon" conspiracy to drive America to war with Russia. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:30, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

If you think Flynn wasn't a neocon prior to 2017, then you clearly are not familiar with his book The Field of Fight. It is filled to the brim with neocon talking points, including anti-Russian warmongering. Would you like to check it out yourself, or would you like me to provide examples in an article?--Geopolitician (talk) 19:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

IMO, like all Democrats, you do not view Russia, China, Wahhabis, or drug cartels as America's No.1 enemy. You view Republicans as such, and the biggest threat to national security. That is my impression after viewing you editing career. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:45, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

No, I view neocons as our number one enemy. And from the looks of it, so do you. We just express our opinions in different ways, that's all.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Thank you for clarifying that. You view neocons, and particularly GOP office holders and candidates who speak on foreign policy, as "our number one enemy", over Russia, China, neo-Nazis, Marxists, jihaddis, etc. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:35, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Only because they are the ones who the most hell-bent on starting a major war which would result in many of my friends and family being killed. Or am I supposed to have this much contempt for them only after my friends and family are already six feet under?--Geopolitician (talk) 19:51, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

You attempt to smear any Republican who speaks on foreign policy issues as a neocon, and try to limit them to social issues. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:52, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Okay. If you think the label "neocon" is unfair because of their position on social issues, then now we're actually getting somewhere. Yes, neocons tend to be socially liberal. But then we also have social conservatives who are just as unreasonably hawkish. What should we call those people? Mesocons? Perhaps I'd be up for it, as long as I'm not the only person here who uses the term.

On a related note, come on, people! Let's start using the term National Globalism more frequently! I didn't coin the term for myself, you know!--Geopolitician (talk) 19:22, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Hey, I'm not here to debate what anyone's perception of a neocon is. I'm here to give you heads up that your efforts to slander and divide the GOP isn't fooling anyone. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:38, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

That's what people were saying to Trump in 2016.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:51, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, right. The neocons attacked Trump cause he had the neocon peacemaker Michael Flynn as his chief foreign policy advisor. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:55, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Flynn was a neocon who began defying the party line. Had he been more like let's say John Bolton, the Deep State would've left him alone. Since then, Flynn appears to have rejected neoconservatism completely. He's a changed man today.--Geopolitician (talk) 19:59, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

This is trolling. Second warning. Find something constructive to do with your time. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 20:02, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Okay, then.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:16, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

If you want to do propaganda, this is the way to do it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:06, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Maybe there will not be a huge Democrat shellacking in the 2022 USA midterm elections

There are some indications that the Democrats could receive a huge shellacking in the 2022 midterms.[21][22]

But Larry Sebato's "Crystal Ball" makes a relatively decent argument that there will not be a huge shellacking.[23]

I try not to be blindsided by partisanship and be objective. The USA has too many people in self-imposed partisan news bubbles who follow the "news" so they can cheer for their team rather than be informed.

But it looks like the Democrats will lose the House and may lose the Senate. Conservative (talk) 01:24, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Who cares now, when we have so many Republicans and conservatives standing up for globalist fascism and Nazism. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:56, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

As predicted, gloating and cheerleading would backfire and lead to apathy.

Rasmussen: GOP Lead Narrows to 8 Points on Congressional Ballot.

The Biden/Deep State Ukraine war has effectively silenced and discredited such giants as Sean Hannity and Sebastian Gorka. How anyone can believe being pro-NATO Nazi and for global fascism benefits the conservative movement and Republican party we can dissect for years in post mortem. The time is short. Time to wake up. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:10, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

The BLM pope

"We are racist, We are racists," says the pope. I take it that in this sentence, "we" means white people. Francis is the pope of Black Lives Matter. PeterKa (talk) 23:50, April 15, 2022 (EDT)

Alfa Bank pinging

The anti-Russia below section was written by current Biden National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan.

The Alfa Bank pinging was widely publicized just before the 2016 election. It was the earliest attempt to show that Trump was somehow in cahoots with Russia. Now we know it was a fraud: "CIA Bombshell: The Sussmann data was "user created." PeterKa (talk) 00:59, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

The connection was, the Trump organization hired some rinky-dink marketing outfit in Pennsylvania (probably a guy working at his kitchen table in his underwear) to send out spam email solicitations for Trump hotels, and Alfa got one. It never even came from Trump Tower, as reported. Jake the Snake Sullivan personally pushed the allegation. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 03:59, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Here is Durham's filing in the Sussmann case: "The crux of the Indictment’s allegation is that the defendant falsely stated that he was not working for any client in connection with the Russian Bank-1 allegations." In other words, Sussmann was working for Hillary. I find it hard to believe that the FBI was fooled, or that Sussmann seriously expected to fool them. It was a formality that transferred legal responsibility away from the FBI. When Comey showed Trump the Steele dossier, Trump was supposed to resign in embarrassment. PeterKa (talk) 10:46, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

The way Durham is headed, he is trying to place all the blame outside government to preserve the institutional integrity of the FBI & CIA. So it appears only DNC & Clinton campaign operatives will be prosecuted, with a new cover story being manufactured that people like John Brennan and Comey were 'duped' by Clinton machinations. But then, what about the status of such criminals like Jake Sullivan, who participated in the fake anti-Russia scheme while working for Hillary outside government and is now leading the U.S. anti-Russia war effort from the White House. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:24, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Chechen fighters clean up the last of the Nazis

These are the guys Gen. Flynn & Trump wanted help from to clean up ISIS; but of course, the Deep State created ISIS, empowered Ukie Nazis, got Flynn fired for wanting to make peace with Russia over Crimea, got Trump impeached for not going along with war against Russia, and the rest is history. Allahu Akbar! These guys don't want to live under Wahabbism, know the US created both ISIS & built up the Banderite Nazis. They are smarter, more informed, and have a clearer outlook on the future of the planet than your average American or Westerner, who are intent on kissing globalist butt in the Ukraine war. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 03:59, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

These guys are considered Russia's best fighters, despite Russians outnumbering Chechens by about 100 to 1. Russians and Chechens figured out a few centuries back, after much warfare, that Christians and Muslims can live together in a common state after centuries of warring against each other. Take American Indians for example: they figured out "if you can't beat 'em, join 'em" vs. the colonialist society attitude that they really didn't want the guilt of exterminating all the 'savages' on their conscience. Or that movie, Officer and a Gentleman, where the black drill sergeant (Louis Gossett) takes a bunch of white privileged punks, toughens 'em up, and teaches them how to be soldiers. And they all graduate as officers, outranking the Sargent. These types of relationships - based on mutual respect - are common in multicultural societies. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:21, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Islamic countries have a history of blood borders.

In his book The Irrational Atheist, Vox Day wrote:

It’s also interesting to note that more than half of these religious wars, sixty-six in all, were waged by Islamic nations, which is rather more than might be statistically expected considering that the first war in which Islam was involved took place almost three millennia after the first war chronicled in the Encyclopedia, Akkad’s conquest of Sumer in 2325 B . C .

In light of this evidence, the fact that a specific religion is currently sparking a great deal of conflict around the globe cannot reasonably be used to indict all religious faith, especially when one considers that removing that single religion from the equation means that all of the other religious faiths combined only account for 3.35 percent of humanity’s wars.[24]

And as soon as the Muslim subpopulation in a country hits around 10%, there starts to be riots/violence(See: What Islam Isn't - Dr. Peter Hammond).Conservative (talk) 08:57, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

The Chechen fighters are not desecularized (IOWs, they are secular Muslims), and stand against radical Islamic terrorism. You're not going to be able to exterminate all Muslims. You need corrupt secular Muslims, willing to kill their "descularized" Muslim brothers, as allies RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:28, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Exterminate the world's 1 billion plus Muslims? That's a pretty radical idea. But so is having a lot of Muslim immigration like Europe is doing. Conservative (talk) 13:53, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

The question is: Was Gen Mike Flynn & Donald Trump's plan to ally with Putin & Chechen fighters to fight radical Islamic terrorism a good idea, or should we allow false anti-Russia narratives manufactured by people like Jake Sullivan, who now are bringing us closer to nuclear conflict with Russia, go unchallenged? RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:59, April 17, 2022 (EDT)

Wikipedia on Ukraine: "Human rights in Ukraine is a highly contested topic and in 2018 Ukraine was labeled as "Partly Free" by organizations such as Freedom House. According to Freedom House, Ukraine has enacted a number of positive reforms in the aftermath of the Euromaidan revolution in 2014."[25]

Why did the USA/West dangle the "You guys can try to get into NATO" carrot in front of the Ukrainians - especially given their track record of corruptness? Madness! This whole war could have been avoided. And now the heavily indebted USA is going to funnel a lot of money into Ukraine.

The USA should have tried to get Putin/Russia as an ally years ago so it could better handle the Chinese. If the USA could deal with Stalin/Russia as an ally during WWII, surely a deal could have been struck with Putin/Russia - especially given their huge nuclear stockpile and the ever present risk of nuclear war (although it is a low risk). Hillary Clinton ruined things with her Russia/collusion nonsense. Maybe Trump could have improved relations with Russia and avoided the whole Ukraine/Russia War.

It was always going to be a tough hoe to get the American public to accept Russia as an ally given the fairly recent Cold War with Russia and many people having anti-Russia/Putin sentiments, but Hillary's Russia/collusion nonsense shut the door on Trump improving relations with Russia. Conservative (talk) 16:41, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

That's bunk. Hillary and Obama pressed the Russian Reset and Voila, things magically returned to the good 'ol days of the 1990s when [[Bill Browder]] was looting Russia.

If you want to pursue a scholar on this subject, I highly recommend Ivan Katchanovski of the School of Political Studies at the University of Ottawa. I've gotten more the half dozen research papers from him since the war started, this one this morning Politics of World War II in Contemporary Ukraine. Katchanovski is the leading researcher into proving it was the neo-Nazi Right Sektor that murdered the "Heavenly Hundred", which Western media blamed on a "Putin stooge" (Yatsenyuk) and facilitated rise of the fascist Maidan regime (Poroshenko). Comment: No wonder Putin and the Russian people are so pissed off at the West. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:41, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

More from the scholarly front: Reclaiming the Past, Confronting the Past: OUN-UPA Memory Politics and Nation-Building in Ukraine (1991-2016), in: War and Memory in Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, ed. Julie Fedor, Markku Kangaspuro, Jussi Lassila, and Tatiana Zhurzhenko, Palgrave Macmillan Memory Studies, 2017. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:11, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Of course, the Maidan regime did not investigate or prosecute the Nazi murderers who brought it to power, and they went on to commit other atrocities against ethnic Russians and Russian speakers. They control the Ukrainian gestapo enforcing martial law. Putin and Russian prosecutors of the Special Investigatory Commission have already said they know who the perpetrators are and they will be arrested and stand trial, even before Putin announced the denazification operation. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:54, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

And let's take this statement:

Wikipedia on Ukraine: "Human rights in Ukraine is a highly contested topic and in 2018 Ukraine was labeled as "Partly Free" by organizations such as Freedom House. According to Freedom House, Ukraine has enacted a number of positive reforms in the aftermath of the Euromaidan revolution in 2014."

The Euromaidan coup was a murderous, anti-democratic, American sponsored coup that empowered Nazis. You just will not stop (a) filling your head with globalist/MSM/CIA misinformation, talking points, and propaganda; (b) stop repeating murderous, globalist/MSM/CIA misinformation, talking points, and propaganda. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 00:39, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

"Senior U.S. government officials reportedly told the leaders of the Svoboda party that the deaths of a few protestors would not be enough to change Western support, but the Yanukovych government would only change if the number of victims was greater than one hundred."[26]

And we even know who the "Senior U.S. government officials" are - Victoria Nuland and John McCain. Yet WP, you, the CIA, MSM, etc etc still call it "Revolution of Dignity" rather than Maidan coup, and "Heavenly Hundred" rather than a U.S.-sponsored Nazi atrocity.

And the Maidan 'heavenly hundred' was hardly unique; the same technique was used in Syria 2 years earlier when snipers recruited by the U.S. & Saudi government shot protesters and Assad's police were blamed. [27] RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:26, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

If Putin is to be criticized, it is for the fact that he & his puppets were caught flatfooted by the above quotebox, and were powerless to respond. But the corrupt power-mad murderers behind it - Obama, Biden, Nuland, McCain, and host of other Americans & Ukrainians, will not got away with it (and we haven't even discussed the Odessa Trade Unions House massacre or Donbas war). This is what the war is about now. And if there is a God in heaven, there will be justice. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:38, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Now, having concluded with good cause that you, the MSM consumer, are stupid, they go onto the Bucha massacre. They just won't stop killing innocent people to further their political objectives, not until somebody stops them. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:43, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Ukies are getting spanked

Ukies are getting spanked right now. Must be another "intelligence failure", I spose. If you want a good channel to check the daily highlight reel, try this. Typically, I estimate MSM, when MSM actually reports something even resembling facts, is about 48 or 72 hours off. For example, the Ukrops lost 4 Migs in the past 4 hours. That will pro'lly never get reported. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:59, April 18, 2022 (EDT)

Rob, your "sources" reliably informed you the Russians had rolled an armoured column into Odessa when this thing kicked off. Your daft bit of Putin fan fiction both claims the "Donbas Cauldron" was closed on March 14 and that "movement to close the cauldron was underway" as of April 15.

None of the fundamentals have changed. Russia can't do expeditionary warfare on this scale because their logistics won't allow it. Bluntly, they don't have enough trucks, tankers and trained drivers to sustain northern and southern axes of encirclement hundreds of miles from their dedicated railheads. They'll stall like they did before and end up being slowly rolled back, minus a lot of the men and materiel they went in with.

Meanwhile, Ukraine has fully mobilised its fighting-age population and has an essentially infinite line of credit and supply from Western governments. Putin could attempt a similar mobilisation, but doesn't have sufficient (reliably functioning) materiel in reserve / storage to make use of it, and can't readily manufacture more without Western components.

If you can see a way of Putin winning this thing, then I'm all ears, but so far you've offered nowt but silly bluster about "nukes". ConwayIII (talk) 18:03, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Kyiv was a deception, not a victory for Ukraine. Russia is, by far, the largest manufacturer of military explosive ordinance on the planet. The U.S. now has dragged down its stockpile of javelins by one third, yet Russian tanks are still rolling (in fact, more will come out of the Azovstal factory eventually). By contrast, the U.S. has no manufacturing base left. What will the U.S. do if China invades Taiwan? outsource re-supply and manufacturing of Javelins to China? There's already a supply chain crisis. The Russians are miles ahead. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:17, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

It was the U.S. & Biden that miscalculated, not Putin and the Russians. Biden was anticipating a quick blitzkrieg and long insurgent war, not a war of attrition. The Pentagon and NATO complain that Ukraine goes through what they thought would last a week in one afternoon. That's what's happening - the Russians are destroying deliveries as fast as they're made. Here's an idea: Why doesn't NATO begin putting oil tankers on the road to Donbas (since only a fraction of the weapons sent make it that far) where it's needed to evacuate 100,000 AFU troops facing the certainty of another Battle of the Somme in coming weeks. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:27, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

The U.S. is accustomed to killing goatherders with Hellfire missiles. That's been their recent experience. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:30, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Speaking of supply lines - the Russians held a pretty good supply line overland for 40 years from Mongolia to Berlin. They probably learned something from that process. What finally drove them out of Berlin was lack of adequate housing for 175,000 troops back in Russia. They left voluntarily when the Germans offered to build them apartments back in Russia. But I don't think they are in any mood at this point any longer to trust Western assurances on anything. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:43, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

OK, man. Let's just add global supply chains and the current Russian manufacturing base to the long list of stuff you know nothing about. The (very capable) head of Russia's central bank recently gave an address to the Duma. You should read it. ConwayIII (talk) 19:04, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Okay Mr. Expert, thank you. I'd be interested in your observations on what Monkeywerx says here about the Shanghai lockdowns. Watch 2 or 3 minutes of it. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:16, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

As to the Bank of Russia report, just read it. Seems rather optimistic, and essentially doesn't really add anything I've read from other summaries in recent days or weeks. Last night I read that, yes, Russia is dependent on imported hops and yeast for beer, so those consumers may suffer higher prices, but kicking out Visa and MasterCard has led to a lull in phishing fraud and robbery of consumer bank accounts. Oh, they'll miss Spotify, but the job opportunities that come with mobilization, they'll rebuild their own industries. And the surprising thing reported was a thank you to the West for sanctions, cause it cleaned up much of the financial corruption Putin has been fighting for 20 years.

And again, the main point - Russia has a manufacturing base for a war of attrition - the U.S. does not. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:35, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Scott Ritter Explains Why The Javelin Missile Is Worthless Hype. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 19:43, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Conway, essentially what Nabiullina is saying is, she is slapping down all the Keynesians in the Russian Duma, the Russian versions of Biden, Sanders, AOC etc that want massive inflationary government stimulus. Russia is awash in foreign cash from oil sales, has a massive trade surplus and massive government budget surplus. The commie libs in the Duma want to go on a big government spending spree to fill in the gaps of a loss of foreign goods. She is saying the supply chain issues with countries not participating in the West's suicide mission should be resolved first. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:06, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Let's address this: "Donbas Cauldron" was closed on March 14 and that "movement to close the cauldron was underway" as of April 15. True, the wording needs more explanation. Classic encirclement usually refers to the physical encirclement with troops. In modern warfare, unlike WWII, it can be achieved without troops, for example with cluster bomb land mines dropped from the air preventing escape. Logistically, it can be done by calculating how much fuel reserves the entrapped troops need to withdraw, which is what occurred in this case. Over the next month, more fuel storage depots outside the cauldron and throughout Ukraine have been destroyed making it even more impossible to breakthrough from the outside and resupply. For all the NATO bluster, no fuel can be transported from Poland to Lugansk to save these poor wretched souls trapped in the Donbas. That should have been readily apparent to any observer 5 or 6 weeks ago - but no, they went on spewing their fantasies about the heroic Ukrainian resistance in need of more weapons while those same heroic resistors were murdering innocent civilians in Bucha. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 13:25, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Wow. Your WaPo pals are finally getting caught up on some factual information:

"The Russian tactic was adopted from the German army, which described such pincer movements as kesselschlacht, or “cauldron battle.” Russian invaders now hope to make the Donbas and eastern Ukraine a deadly cauldron, with no escape." [28]

The public would be better served here in CP than listening to that CIA propagandist David Ignatius ("when Ignatius speaks, the CIA's lips are moving.")

Note the concession Ignatius makes here: "Donbas and eastern Ukraine," given the Soros entities attempts to de-Russify Ukraine by purging the word "Donbas" from the Ukrainian language in place of "Eastern Ukraine" and stomp out any memory that Donbas ever existed, Ignatius either mistakenly forgot by separating the two or is telling us Donbas will never be part of Ukraine again. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:29, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

{he doesn't even capitalize "Eastern Ukraine", unlike all sources since the Maidan coup up to about 3 weeks ago). RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:21, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Here's an obvious error in this CIA propaganda: "Russian invaders now hope". No, that's what the Kyiv head fake was all about, to keep Kyiv reinforcements out of the Donbas cauldron - it essentially saved tens of thousands of Kyiv reinforcements lives and made RF forces job easier. By my estimates, in two months time, at least 30,000 Ukrainians troops will be dead or POWs - barring outright war with NATO expanding the conflict outside Ukrainian borders (NATO seems to have taken the warning last week that continued strikes on Crimea or the RF proper would result in the flattening of Kyiv. See, the two sides are still talking. Not all diplomacy is conducted across the table). RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:52, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

THE DONBASS KILLING FIELDS - WAR TURNING UGLY FOR AFU - BRITISH MERC LIQUIDATED (18+++)

"I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A SUICIDE MISSION, BUT..."

Looks like all them POWs will have their work cut out for themselves in coming months burying their comrades, unless Biden & Zelensky care to do the right and moral thing and throw in the towel. They can end, what they started, tomorrow. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 04:03, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

More pictures of the demoralized Russian forces and ravenous crowds ready to overthrow Putin. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 01:18, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Biden is running for reelection

There are two more items to add to the list of weird Joe Biden behaviors: He was guided away from reporters by an Easter bunny and he shook hands with an imaginary audience member. For all those "fact checkers" who claim that he was pointing, here is a video from October of Biden doing the same hand motion. This incident is harder to explain as pointing.

We need to find out who the guy in the bunny outfit is. He's obviously the real president. The funniest part is Biden's reaction. I'll go now. Bunny's orders!

Now we learn that "Biden has told Obama he’s running again." The way Biden looks at it, if Trump runs again, he's the only guy who can defeat him. This story has to be true because it is so delusional. The 2024 election will almost certainly be about Biden's performance as president. Even if it is about Trump, who thinks that Biden has some special power that allows him and only him to defeat Trump? Now that the media has acknowledged that the Hunter Biden laptop is genuine, it is astonishing that Joe would even think about running again. PeterKa (talk) 14:40, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Most Americans probably don't believe he'll survive long enough to 2024. Looks like just another fund raising scam to siphon off donor money that could go to other viable Democrat candidates. Somebody from the DNC (like Marc Elias) should talk to him. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 14:58, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

I assumed that the media would swing behind AOC. But Buttigieg is only name I have seen mentioned so far. PeterKa (talk) 16:20, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Buttigieg, yah, by the white privileged patriarchal donor class. They'll come crawling out of the woodwork, the Steyers. Bookers, Stacy Abrhams, Gillibrands, Klobuchars, etc.

I think it's a mistake thinking Biden is an incumbent. 2024 is essentially an open seat (election fraud + incapacity = open seat). Everyone knows that. It's somewhat similar to Jerry Ford in 1976 - nobody voted for him as either Prez or VP, the system was rigged so he was hardly an incumbent with a loyal voter base.

Ford was chosen because he was a decades leftover swamp creature, like Biden. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:30, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

We already know the results: Biden ran 5th in Iowa - Sanders was cheated, the rigging came 48 hours before Super Tuesday when Bootyboy and Klobuchar dropped out. Harris was the first to announce (in front of a crowd of 40,000 bigger than Obama's) and first to drop out before voting started. The white male oligarchs bought their way onto the debate stage. All the Dems know this - that Biden is a fraud, the DNC rigged it for Biden as they did for Hillary. Sanders & possibly Warren are too old. So a gay or transgender Millennial black birthing person rises to the top. The important part is a Millennial to bring back young voters, someone who speaks their language. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 16:56, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

So, like Ford and Biden (or Papy Bush) the advantage goes to an outsider, someone not contaminated by Washington. Even Trump has the same thing to worry about, because DeSantis is much more of an outsider and unknown quantity than Trump. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:04, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, and the Easter Bunny, my guess is it was Jen "What's your favorite ice cream flavor" Psaki. She's the most experienced running interference and knows who to avoid. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 17:16, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Watch the video: The KNIVES Are Out for BIDEN!!! Conservative (talk) 19:31, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

I can't find The Duran video right now, but they had a good commentary on what's happening. They used these clips [29][30] and a bit more with Kamala at Obama side throughout. Reading the body language, it says Obama returned to the White House to set Kamala up as the successor, while he's they guy in his jockey shorts at home dictating what to say through an earpiece. IOWs, its the Obama machine now trying to shove Biden out, and Kamala's been briefed on her role. So the recent headline of Biden telling Obama 'not so fast' can be seen as a response. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 23:51, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

Here's a great headline: "How Can Biden Run For A Second Term If He Needs The Easter Bunny To Save Him From Reporters?" The gal in the bunny costume was press assistant Angela Perez. PeterKa (talk) 10:56, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

Joe Biden says he is running for election. But Biden very often lies.

It reminds me of this scene from a famous series on television:

CAPTAIN KIRK: "Everything Harry tells you is a lie. Remember that! Everything Harry tells you is a lie!"

HARRY MUDD: "Now listen to this carefully, Norman: I AM LYING!"

NORMAN THE ROBOT: "You say you are lying, but if everything you say is a lie then you are telling the truth, but you cannot tell the truth because everything you say is a lie, but... you lie, you tell the truth, but you cannot for you l... Illogical! Illogical! Please explain! You are Human! Only Humans can explain their behavior! Please explain!"

CAPTAIN KIRK: (sarcastic) "I am not programmed to respond in that area!"[31] Conservative (talk) 02:24, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Something the liberal media will never report....

Over a billion illegal migrants have been detained at the border in the last six months, according to GOP Congresswomen Debbie Lesko. ClaudeMcH (talk) 23:35, April 19, 2022 (EDT)

I knew it. She was a Ukrainian plant. Ukrainian hackers hacked her twitter account. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 02:32, April 20, 2022 (EDT)

How did Morgan convince Trump to do that interview?

Piers Morgan knows what really matters to Donald Trump: his golf game. Here is his account of the recent interview on the Fox News streaming platform:

We stared at each other for a few seconds, his eyes boring into mine with all the warmth of an Arctic glacier.

It was time to change the mood music.

”I’d love to talk about your recent golf hole-in-one,” I stammered. “Your playing partner Ernie Els was raving about it.”

Trump sat bolt upright.

”He was? Where?”

“In a newspaper interview I read. He said it was a brilliant shot and you played really well.”

“I did, I did.”

The two men had a fiery confrontation over 2020 voter fraud allegations. Perhaps it was just Morgan being a rating hound, or perhaps Fox has decided that it's time to move on from Trump. PeterKa (talk) 08:45, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

The coronavirus pandemic made Trump's 2020 bid to be reelected very challenging for him. Plus, big tech and the media conspired against him as well. I think 2024 will be a bit of a cakewalk for him if he decides to run. Biden is totally incompetent and corrupt and he recently told Obama he is going to run in 2024! Lock him up! Lock him up! :) Conservative (talk) 10:14, April 21, 2022 (EDT)

Weird. I don't recall Trump taking much time to play golf while he was in the White House. ClaudeMcH (talk) 22:09, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

Image upload request

Could someone please be so kind to upload this image of GOP Representative Madison Cawthorn so I may include it in his article? Hugs and kisses.... ClaudeMcH (talk) 18:13, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

That appears to be a private photo of a teenager at a party. It's not newsworthy or encyclopedic.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:22, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Looks like a deep fake. We'll be seeing more and more of these. Unfortunately, we can't rely on Snopes or PolitiFact to verify. RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 18:32, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

It's astounding how hard the liberal media is going after the homeschooled, wheelchair-limited, 26-year-old Madison Cawthorn. Perhaps they see the next Trump in him, and about that the Left may be right!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:55, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

Bingo. It's the latest form of bigotry, Ableism, "Ableism describes any prejudice, bias, and discrimination directed toward people living with disabilities." We should work that into his bio, "Cawthorne is the frequent recipient of leftist media and proponents of bigoted ableist attacks," or somesuch {"Cawthorne has been brutally mistreated by bigotted leftwing ableist attacks," etc.) RobS^{Let's Go Brandon!} 22:11, April 22, 2022 (EDT)

I have to say my opinion of Cawthorn has plummeted. He has admitted the pictures are genuine. Transvestitism and cross dressing is wrong, sinful, unChristian, and unConservative. This is not a "man" I want to be the face of the Conservative Movement. I don't see how his transvestitism is any different from the disturbing videos of Zelensky. --IScott (talk) 11:11, April 24, 2022 (EDT)

Nobody does propaganda like the Russians

Only now they are in a game of catch-up. RobS^Z 18:29, April 24, 2022 (EDT)

Here it is, the TOS-1 Sunbake. Let's hope it's not needed in urban areas, like Izium, Kharkhiv, Lviv, Warsaw, Kiev. Time for Zelensky, Lloyd Austin, Stoltenberg, or any other Nazi to come to Jesus. RobS^Z 02:05, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Your tax dollars at work.

Why would anyone choose to die like this? Somebody needs to tell Zelensky to put a stop to this. Oh, this one is even better.

Yah, these Russians really look demoralized, but not half demoralized as the Ukrainian soldiers we've seen on film. Now ask yourself, if 1/10 of the propaganda you've heard about the Russians being beaten and demoralized since Feb 24 were true, how come we haven't seen film like this?

What, the West is more civilized in its killing?

Danazification is no joke, as you've also been led to believe. And each one of us will have some explaining to do before this all over. RobS^Z 02:40, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Today's highlight reel from Donbas (something you won't see on the 6:00 news). More motivational content for the "highly motivated" Ukrainian fighters and their Western-backed supporters to keep sending them money and weapons for more of the same outcome. RobS^Z 22:48, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

I thought Putin and the Russians were getting their butts kicked. Wahapened? Spokesperson For World’s Largest Military Overwhelmed with Emotion for Ukraine During Press Briefing. RobS^Z 22:16, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

What an idiot. And where do we get idiots like this from? John McCain buried 50,000 North Vietnamese civilians under apartment house rubble, gets elected to the Senate, and Kamala Harris lays flowers on the victims' graves to honor McCain. But somehow Putin is "unethical" for following the "humane rules of war". RobS^Z 18:27, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

More Azov war crimes. See, this is how psyops works: all the lies you've experienced about Russian forces has de-sensitized you to the truth about your buddies to whom now you are emotionally invested in. RobS^Z 23:26, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Russians need more Javelins, apparently. RobS^Z 21:54, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

Today's highlight reeel is really disgusting. Enter at your own risk 18+++ The wives and mothers in Ukraine have seen it, and demand the fascist Ukrainian regime put a stop to this senseless, unnecessary killing and return their loved ones from the front. Jacob Dreizen reports: [32]

A case study in fantasy

I caught this “news” on ZeroHedge, which has been so pressured and neutered by its IT services providers and advertisers…..

…..that it has become another Bloomberg, carrying only “Ukraine says” MSM pap about the war, and avoiding criticism of the vakk-seenz with a ten-foot pole.

This past Wednesday, ZeroHedge carried a story from NBC News, which claimed that, according to unnamed current and former government officials, the U.S. provided “intelligence” that the Ukraine used to shoot down a Russian IL-76 transport plane, loaded with Russian soldiers, coming in for a landing at (presumably, they don’t give the name) Gostomel airfield near Kiev in late February.

I must highlight this, as it’s an echo of fake claims that were passed around at the time, originating with Ukrainian Telegram and Twitter.

Ultimately, NBC’s “current and former government officials” are passing along two-month-old smoke from social media.

To give you an idea, the IL-76 is substantially larger, twice as heavy, and much more solidly built than a Boeing 737. If an IL-76 was shot down and crashed from a low altitude, there would be LARGE pieces of wreckage on the ground, not to mention, several platoons worth of mostly intact, uniformed bodies strewn about—it would be unmistakable.

Where is the evidence?

IT WAS NEVER SHOWN, BECAUSE IT WASN’T THERE.

At least they could show the bodies, you know, like the Russian side shows Ukrainian bodies, because there are some in this world who value evidence…..

…..and here, here, here, here, here, and here are just a few recent “receipts”, hardly a drop in the bucket of the sum total of decommissioned Ukrai-meat, but just to give a taste:

At this point, anyone who believes ANYTHING carried in the MSM regarding the Ukraine, is a chump.

RobS^Z 02:47, May 1, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, the video of the Ukrainian TikTok star who found a bone in a burnt out tank with some flesh remaining, took it home, cooked it on the backyard barbeque and ate it for his TikTok fans so he could say he ate a Russian soldier (reports now say it actually was a burnt out Ukrainian tank) I'm not going to post. Yes, there are Russian bigots too, who don't miss a swipe at Ukrainians or Ukrainian culture. But the video I would confirm as authentic, and not manufactured Russian propaganda. RobS^Z 04:22, May 1, 2022 (EDT)

What readers need to realize is, the propaganda you are receiving from NBC, CNN, et al is written by a bunch of idiots who live in the cul du sacs of Alexandria, Virginia. They are pure charlatans, and think they are "intelligence professionals" by employing KGB tactics from the 1950s that exposed and embarrassed the fledgling CIA of the early years as the amateurs that they were. If they knew anything about Russian (Russian, not Soviet) culture, and studied Russian propaganda from the Second World War, they wouldn't look like the fools they do now. Russians are extraordinarily patient, and fixated. On Christmas day 1942 Radio Moscow began broadcasting, round the clock, a ticking metronome with a voice repeating, "every seven seconds a German soldier dies. Stalingrad is a mass grave" (someone added music that's been used in numerous YouTube videos now [33]). Now, do you think those buffoons in Alexandria can come up with some new psyops to demoralize a culture where memories of the WWII is baked into the third generation's DNA?

The only thing motivating Ukrainians to fight is pure hatred - that's who this propaganda is really aimed at - to fuel hatred - and you, the American bystander, are the collateral damage of this hatred.

That's why Nazi propaganda failed, false pride and hatred. American propaganda was only targeted at the homefront. British propaganda however, like Russian, was very effective against the Germans. And it's also now targeted at, and somewhat effective against, Americans. But American propaganda makes us all look like fools, both at home, and in Russia. If anything, it is stiffening resistance against America worldwide. RobS^Z 05:30, May 1, 2022 (EDT)

The Russians don't want to kill anyone (God knows, they have suffered). But as Putin says, you mess with them, and they will bust your teeth. RobS^Z

Todays' highlight reel won't have any AFU corpses Biden & Zelensky are so pleased to keep piling up. Instead we'll report from Germany, transcript follows:

"Ukrainians who come here stand on the streets, in front of the German flag, and shout out their hate speeches against Russian fellow citizens. They say, 'All Russians have to be destroyed. They all have to be killed and then there will be peace in this world.' What is going on? What kind of talk is this here in Germany? Where do we... what the hell is going on here? If those Ukrainians do not know how to behave properly, then they must leave this country. As a German, I don't want to hear this kind of talk here. We know such fascist statements. Putin has all the reasons to want to remove all this.* And I say this as a German. And the Germans have to wake up. We are well acquainted with these fascist speeches, and such things are allowed to be said in public places? The unvaccinated citizens were discriminated here, and now some people are refugees come and make such accusatory species here in Germany? This is the top limit for me. Those Ukrainians have to be put on buses and taken back to their country. Let them carry on with this [ __ ] there. And here in our country there should be peace, not enmity. There should be no hate speeches." [34]

• Footnote: Youtube algorithms removed the phrases, "We know such fascist statements. Putin has all the reasons to want to remove all this" beginning at 1:23 from the Show transcript. My guess is YouTube machine program censored the f & P words in this context. RobS^Z 03:59, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

UK mercenaries formally charge, face death sentence. Too bad their own government won't stand behind them, they'd have the chance to see the light of day again. RobS^Z 18:48, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Here's the Iksander. The people of the open, democratic, free speech cities of Warsaw and Berlin need to open a dialogue with their national "leaders" (if their national leaders and Big Tech allow) fairly quickly. RobS^Z 19:06, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

To see how bad things are becoming for Ukraine, look at this garbage, for instance. Yah, 44 bodies were found in a town Ukraine does not even occupy. But you can bet the fake news media will jump on it as todays headline since a couple dozen Ukrainian soldiers just got killed trying to retake Snake Island. RobS^Z 19:05, May 10, 2022 (EDT)

Now, one can argue that these are civilians sympathetic to the Kyiv regime making this report from behind enemy lines. One would think the stench of 44 rotting corpses in an urban area killed in March would have been reported weeks ago. What I am showing you is how these pro-Ukraine narratives and propaganda are being fed to you. On a day the Russians have a victory - which is virtually everyday as of late, the action goes unreported and is buried by fake news and propaganda. On a slow day when there is no movement either way, that's when the false flag atrocities or fake news Ukrainian victories appear. CNN, MSNBC, and the Institute for the Study of War gets thier headlines directly from a Twitter army sympathetic to Ukraine (which is even spread throughout Russia) from the above link. And that reporting service is not the only one. There are several. But as noted, the Russians know loose lips sink ships, and are not fighting the ground war, or the propaganda war, in this manner. RobS^Z 19:24, May 10, 2022 (EDT)

So some techhead sitting in Kyiv with his CIA counterpart asks, 'How do we handle this?' when a major operation to retake Snake Island ends in failure, and another 200 or 300 Ukrainian soldiers in Donbas are killed or surrender. The CIA advisor says, 'Hey, dig out that tweet about the 44 killed in Izium we didn't have time for back then' or 'call him up and ask him to resend it.' Yah, this is how this war is being fought on the US & Ukrainian side - with no regard whatsoever for the lives of Ukrainian military and/or civilian hostages the Ukrainian military hides behind. You, the news consumer, are being played. RobS^Z 19:36, May 10, 2022 (EDT)

This weeks highlight reel (thank God we're doing weekly instead of daily). Again I ask, When Russia was allegedly losing the conflict in Feb. & Mar. according to Pentagon & CNN "experts", Where's the video evidence? RobS^Z 00:13, May 12, 2022 (EDT)

Ukrainian psyops is starting to outdo itself; the destruction of a "tampoon" bridge and 72 tanks appears to be a bit exaggerated. RobS^Z 14:06, May 13, 2022 (EDT)

Another image upload request?

I would like to add this to the Elon Musk article. ClaudeMcH (talk) 22:05, April 25, 2022 (EDT)

Transnistria

Is not Russian it's Moldovan. There is also no evidence whatsoever that NATO carried out the attacks there. In fact it is almost certain that they did not.--Chewy Suarez (talk) 12:38, April 26, 2022 (EDT)

Where do you suppose all these folks are headed, a summer afternoon on the Odessa beach to play volleyball? RobS^Z 01:26, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Want Russian oil and gas Europeans? Rubles please!

Russia's state-run gas company, Gazprom, turned off natural gas supplies to NATO members Poland and Bulgaria today with the Kremlin warning that other European countries will also see their flows cut if they also refuse to pay their bills in rubles. The shut down took effect a day after defense leaders from the U.S. and allied nations met in Germany to coordinate military aid to Kyiv.[35]

"Russia is an empire: it perceives itself as an empire, it has an imperial history, and currently in geopolitics it sees itself as continuing to play the role of an empire. For this reason most Russian negotiations, not only those by the Russian government, but also those conducted by Russian business people, come from a power perspective.

Russians perceive negotiation as a “power game,” as a “сила” (force). They will typically present a very tough position at the beginning of a negotiation, and they will offer tough responses to their counterparts even at the final stages of negotiations.

Although negotiation theorists speak about the overall opportunity, and finding “win-win” outcomes that can benefit both sides, Russians find it difficult to adapt to this negotiation approach. Indeed, the word “victory” itself in the Russian language means that the other side loses or leaves the game. The Russian negotiation mentality is a very strong approach, and a rather inflexible one, which to some extent ignores emotional and psychological considerations often discussed in negotiation theory."[36]

This war is going to drag on for awhile.

Putin/Russia sees this as a high stakes game because they strongly don't want Ukraine to join NATO and Russia has been invaded many times in the past. WWII was an especially tough invasion. Western powers and Ukraine want to degrade Russia's ability to sustain/initiate war in the future. In addition, the Russians are tough negotiators. Conservative (talk) 18:10, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

State-run gas company? ClaudeMcH (talk) 18:19, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

Sorry, no. You will remember the basis of the fraudulent Carter Page FISA warrant was that he was offered a significant share of Gazprom in the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. C'mon man. You guys can't be that dumb, that you forget your own bogus smears and talking points overnight to make lame arguments about Donald Trump and communism, can you? RobS^Z 18:47, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

This so-called headline news story is ancient news anyway; it's at least six weeks old and certainly not news to anyone who's informed. RobS^Z 18:50, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, pardon me, it was Reuters that said "state-controlled". That should be a lesson to you what a crock a crap Reuters is. If an oil company in the US gets a public lands oil lease, pays taxes, and subject to OSHA inspections, is it "state-controlled", too? RobS^Z 18:58, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

Wow. Here's the bogus Steele dossier claims reported by Business Insider a week after Trump was sworn in, [37] citing Reuters from a month after Trump was elected [38] (that would be 2 days after Obama ordered John Brennan to concoct an official CIA investigation into "Russian interference").

Two questions, actually three:

1. Do you suppose any of the emails leaked from the Durham investigation yesterday relate to either Business Insider or Reuters? [39][40]
2. Why would we take what Reuters says serious?
3. Why would we post it on MPR? RobS^Z 19:22, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

As to the points about "Russian negotiation tactics," the point is moot. You're barking up the wrong tree when idiots like Joe Biden, Antony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, and Liz Truss refuse to negotiate. Putin & Lavrov proposed two draft treaties, one between the US & Russia, one between Russia and NATO. Biden & NATO said "FU", spat in their face, and refused to even look at the treaties. RobS^Z 19:45, April 27, 2022 (EDT)

The Russians/NATO countries both want to have some degree of control over Ukraine or maybe they will settle for Ukraine being neutral. Both Russia and the UKraine are corrupt and both lean authoritarian (But Russia leans more authoritarian). The war is going to drag on until Russia is forced to the negotiation table and that does not appear to be happening soon. Conservative (talk) 12:19, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

There you go spouting CIA talking points again. RobS^Z 13:10, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

"maybe they will settle for Ukraine being neutral."

That is exactly what Putin & Lavrov proposed in a draft treaty in December when Biden & Blinken spat in their face and escalated the conflict. So if Biden, Blinken, and NATO agree to it now, who's responsible for the 30,000 dead and crimes against peace? RobS^Z 20:24, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

• Ruble isn't worth anything in free market terms. Its apparent value is a manipulation by the Russian Central Bank. Russia refusing to sell oil reminds me of the South during the Civil War refusing to export cotton. Jeff Davis never thought the South could win militarily. He was convinced that withholding cotton would force Britain to intervene. PeterKa (talk) 18:01, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Harvard economist on 'shocking' contraction of US economy in Q1. There might be a 50/50 chance of a recession in 2023. If recession happens, demand for Russian oil could fall and NATO's willingness/ability to fund the Ukrainians might fall. Conservative (talk) 18:58, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

A recession is defined as two consecutive quarters of negative growth. MPR reports today we completed the first quarter of negative growth, which means by June 30 we will officially be in recession (far ahead of what your source claims). With supply chain issues and lack of fertilizers for planting, you might as well realize we are in recession right now, rather than wait til somebody tells you. And if experience is any guide, stimulus and printing more money is the typical reaction (which means more money for Ukraine). RobS^Z 19:27, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Russia is not refusing to ship oil. Russia has been prohibited from accepting dollars and euros as payment. RobS^Z 19:10, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

The Ruble's value is tied to gold, which means it's about to become an international reserve asset in a n age of inflation. RobS^Z 19:14, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

The game Poland is playing is about as dumb as anything the Biden White House can come up with (understand, Russia didn't cut off Poland, Poland refuses to buy Russian gas). So Poland is going to buy Russian gas from Germany, Sweden, Slovakia, etc, at a mark up in price for the middleman, of course. Brilliant plan, and real compassion by the government for consumers. RobS^Z 19:20, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

A tough recession could hurt both side in terms of funding a Russia/Ukraine war. Conservative (talk) 20:26, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Face facts: we're in a recession now as a result of the aborted Trump recovery from the plandemic the day Biden occupied the Oval Office, and the West's suicide mission with sanctions. It's all the pre-planned Great Reset moving forward.

Russia has no shortage of food and gas supplies, a stable gold-backed currency in demand throughout the planet, and job opportunities to fill in the gaps of new domestic industries with the loss of foreign imported goods. RobS^Z 20:36, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

6 months from now when you are riding public transportation to go stand in line at a church for a food box, think about what role your support for a transvestite cocaine addicted fascist in Kyiv had to do with it, and who the people were that fed you all that anti-Russian propaganda. RobS^Z 20:42, April 28, 2022 (EDT)

Unless the USA puts a memoratorium on federal taxes, I think I am going to continue to be supporting the Ukrainians for months/years. Conservative (talk) 00:56, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Well, now I understand what the Russians mean when they say they don't intend to just de-nazify Ukraine, but the entire West. And democratically speaking, they have the rest of the planet behind them. RobS^Z 01:13, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

As the Russians say, if God doesn't judge the West, he owes Sodom and Gomorrah an apology. RobS^Z 01:16, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

I am surprised that more Jews don't push back on that Ukranian army regiment, the Azov regiment, wearing a Nazi symbol on their uniforms. But I know the prominent Jewish lawyer and author Alan Dershowitz is. The USA is giving so much money/support to the Ukrainians and their military that the USA should the make the support contingent on Ukranian soldiers removing Nazi symbols on their uniforms. That is not too much to ask. Conservative (talk) 09:31, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Again, you're spouting CIA talking points. There are Nazi groups throughout Ukraine, mostly in Western Ukraine. They have been incorporated into the Ukrainian Territorial Defense under the Ministry of Interior and Security Service. These are the groups Zelensky armed when he declared martial law.

A Nazi is not defined just by someone who wears insignia. They are defined by a set of beliefs. Since 2014, Azov has been running summer training camps for children 6 year years old and up (their version of the Hitler Youth or Maoist Red Guard). The youngest of these would be 14 and the oldest about 26. Some may have even made it into the elite Azov Battalion or Aidar Battalion or others; the rest are in the Territorial Defense.

Azov Battalion is the entry point or fast track into the Security Service of Ukraine; members in 2014 and 2015 have long moved on into leadership positions in the Ministry of Interior, the Ministry of Defense, the Security Services, parliament and local and region councils.

You are being extraordinarily naive about facts that are readily available. RobS^Z 12:29, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Viral tweet during the Zelensky regime.

"The USA is giving so much money/support to the Ukrainians and their military that the USA should the make the support contingent on Ukranian soldiers removing Nazi symbols on their uniforms"

Congress did this for about 2 years in 2016, so NATO then just trained the Nazis in Canada. RobS^Z 12:38, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

The screenshots of this page will be especially funny in 5-10 years' time when the Z symbol is firmly established as the 21st century's equivalent of the swastika and there's maybe a Republican in the White House toasting the anniversary of Ukraine's victory.

I'm hoping you'll still be alive so I can enjoy watching you lie about having ever supported any of it. Please eat well and get plenty of sleep and exercise. ConwayIII (talk) 14:03, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Don't you follow the news at all? The Ruskies got the Satan missile on autopilot. That means the decision to launch is out of Putin's hands. And it will be launched well before the LGBT flag is ever hoisted over the Kremlin. RobS^Z 14:21, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Gay marriage and the homosexual agenda is an existential threat to survival of the human species, civilization, and the Russian Federation. Now you are entitled to your opinions about that, but the democratic majority of planet earth is behind Russia. And Russia is the only power, not China or Iran, capable of standing up to NATO and the US. RobS^Z 14:30, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Yeah, man. Because rehashing plot points from Dr. Strangelove is exactly what you'd want to do in order to be taken seriously on the world stage. Maybe Putin'll ride it in like Slim Pickens. Keep your zwastika flying and pay no attention to the Russian offensive slowly grinding to a halt. ConwayIII (talk) 12:15, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Okay, let's turn from your remarkable understanding of the military situation to a political question: When Poland invades Ukraine in a couple weeks and reconquers Lvov, are we seeing a permanent partitioning of the borders of the former Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic and its successor states? or will Poland ever withdraw its forces at some unknown point in the future and the existing borders prior to Feb. 24 be preserved intact? If so, why is Poland now excluding Nazis from the puppet regime it is organizing for the occupation? RobS^Z 13:10, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

I think you must've bought a bad bag of copium, man, 'cos you're tripping balls rn. If you suddenly reckon you can fly, remember to try taking off from the ground first rather than any rooftops. ConwayIII (talk) 13:35, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

okie dokie here come's smokey. RobS^Z 14:09, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

so, apparently exploding a nuke underwater just off the UK would create a 500 ft tsunami and wash the island away with radioactive water, which would eventually dissipate like after the Fukushima accident and minimize atmospheric contamination. Unfortunately, we are not at the point of making threats, we are at the point where the fascist regime of the UK is actively killing Russians. At the moment, its a question of how long the moderate voice of Putin can keep the angry Russian population and hothead generals in check. RobS^Z 19:46, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Apparently you're confusing the effects of an asteroid ocean strike with those of an underwater nuclear explosion. This could be a real opportunity to write that moon base into your Putin fan fiction. Tractor beams hurling asteroids at the globalist Nazi elite! "Someday a real tsunami's gonna come and wash these Nazi scum right offa this beach!" ConwayIII (talk) 16:38, May 3, 2022 (EDT)

Gay marriage and the homosexual agenda is not an existential threat to humanity. Wokism is starting to die in the USA and there will always be plenty of men that chase women. The percentage of the world that is religious and is Muslim/Christian/Jewish is increasing and their Holy Books are against homosexuality (see: Desecularization). Conservative (talk) 13:29, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

I think you just made WIGO . Hear that, everybody? Cons just stood up the homosexual agenda, gay adoption, and surrogate parenting for homosexual couples. Andy just reported yesterday that gay marriages outnumber hetero marriages in Ireland. How will the species survive (in the West, at least? Asia and Africa seem to side with Russia against the United States gay agenda and its rules based order). RobS^Z 13:54, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

The Amish population in the USA doubles every 15 to 30 years.

The Hispanic population is growing rapidly in the USA due to their high fertility rate, religiosity and immigration.[41][42]

When I took a business trip to Alexandria, Virginia I went to a Hispanic Pentestocal church because it was the only church open during the Christmas week. I saw lots of ladies in long dresses and some tacos after the services, but I didn't see one rainbow flag in the church or on the church grounds! Olé! Olé! Olé!

By 2030 or the early 2040s American is project to hit peak secular and then desecularize (see: American atheism). Europe is expected to see a desecularization trend in the 21st century as well. Conservative (talk) 18:53, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

"cul du sacs of Alexandria" is an idiomatic expression for people who live in the DC bubble, know nothing of the real world, and draw a paycheck from the CIA. RobS^Z 00:36, May 3, 2022 (EDT)

Demographics of Lvov

Why We Fight: To Protect Democracy.

Sorry to do this to you, but we're going to link to WP for some of this information. [43] According to the 'last census' conducted in 1931, here was the breakdown:

• Polish 64%
• Hebrew & Yiddish 24%
• Ukrainian 11%

After Ukrainian Nazis and their German allies deported the Jewish population to Poland ("Poland" here is being used as a euphemism for "Auschwitz"), and after the Russians deported the Polish population to "modern Poland" and Polish Nazis to Siberia, the latest census data (2001, according to WP) says this:

• Ukrainian 88%
• Jewish 0.3%
• Polish 0.9%

Interesting, although the 1931 census said Hebrew and Yiddish speakers were 1/4 of the population, it also Jews by religion were 1/3 of the population. The 8% differences is likely spouses in mixed marriages who identified as Jewish. RobS^Z 13:54, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Cheers. I hear the Austrians are massing in the Brenner Pass ready to retake South Tyrol. And the word in Westminster is Boris has taken to roaming the dusty basements of the Commons library, poring over ancient maps and muttering to himself about restoring England's rightful dominion over Aquitaine. It could get messy, this NeW wOrLd OrDeR. ConwayIII (talk) 17:52, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Are you mocking holocaust victims and victims of Soviet gulags? Trolling like that will get you ban. RobS^Z 09:05, May 4, 2022 (EDT)

What is a Nazi?

The argument that there is only 900 Nazis in Ukraine is NBC/CIA crap.

This is how the Ukrainian gestapo treats Ukrainian citizens under martial law; this is the Homeland Security volunteer vigilante defense force, officially armed and sanctioned by the Zelensky regime (these boys aren't tuff enough or trained enough to go after real "enemies of the state" like the elite Azov or SBU do, they only deal with petty offences, kinda like the difference between SS and Stormtroopers, or "black shirts" and "brown shirts").

In both cases, the targets of their attacks are officially, racially, targeted by government - ethnic Russian citizens of Ukraine, and citizens who use the Russian language. The argument that calling these people 'Nazis' is offensive to 'real' Nazis, is ludicrous. RobS^Z 17:34, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

So, where does all this bogus propaganda in Western media come from? This guy (time activated) gives a good explanation. For more context, rewind 3 or 4 minutes. RobS^Z 18:02, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Like the SS, Azov began as a private party organization. After the seizure of power, like the SS, Azov was grafted into the military.

In 1927, the SS had 100 members; in 1933 after the seizure of power and it began receiving government funding, its ranks swelled to 10,000. By 1945, twelve years later, the SS had 1 million members.

I cannot tell you how ridiculous it sounds when people vomit back out NATO/CIA/MSM propaganda on this page. RobS^Z 18:55, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Look in the mirror et voila.--Chewy Suarez (talk) 21:11, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, you think US tax dollars should support the anti-democratic fascist regime of Ukraine? RobS^Z 23:10, April 29, 2022 (EDT)

Russia is an enemy of The USA, at the moment a cold enemy but it could well heat up. To be against a war is one thing but to openly support a aggressive war pursued by an enemy of your own country which you do in every incident, including those of mass murder is called treason which makes you a borderline traitor. Think about that.--Chewy Suarez (talk) 12:10, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

The American government is at war with Russia. It declared its intent with the Maidan coup and subsequent arming and training Nazis. RobS^Z 14:16, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

Serbia (Clinton administration) was an aggressive war; Libya (Obama administration) was an aggressive war; were all perpetrators and supporters traitors to American democracy? RobS^Z 14:23, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

Basically, what we have is a loophole in the United Nations Charter; while it attempts to outlaw "aggressive war", it seems to allow using snipers to kill civilians to prompt coups, regime change, and overthrow democratically-elected governments. This essentially is the difference between the UN Charter and America's "rules based order", according to Lavrov. I suspect the UNGA will have to sort it out at some point, adding state-sponsored (and their private mercenary hitmen) coups and terrorism to aggressive actions, to which I doubt the US will find much support to oppose beyond its 30 NATO allies. RobS^Z 15:27, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

While the Russians have a different military doctrine which the US either doesn't understand or deliberately ignores, they have never done anything that was unprecedented going back to at least the Korean war, and possibly before to the founding of the UN. RobS^Z 15:43, April 30, 2022 (EDT)

Russia and China are frenemies of the USA (Both friends and enemies). American administrations work with Russia on areas of mutual interests (The war on terror for example). Right now, the Biden administration is supporting Ukraine while asking the Russians to negotiate with the Iranians on the USA's behalf! The Chinese and USA have opposite interests when it comes to: Taiwan, intellectual property rights, industrial espionage and competition in trade. On the other hand, the Chinese send us cheap goods due to their cheaper labor (which are also sometimes subsidized by the Chinese government), so that is currently having an anti-inflationary effect on the USA economy which is having a big problem with inflation (If it wasn't for Covid-19 and Chinese lockdowns causing supply chain issues it would have more of an anti-inflationary effect). Conservative (talk) 02:10, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

If there ever was a guy you needed to add to your YouTube subscription list, it's this guy. I know, his daily updates can run a half hour or longer, but he can make it fun. And he teaches you how to discern propaganda, which he says (rightfully) becomes easy to detect once you master the basic things to watch for (which I even added to our propaganda article. RobS^Z 03:03, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Seriously, watch him for the next 3 or 4 days consecutively, and tell me if you don't come away with a new perspective. RobS^Z 03:07, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

How Propaganda Works (And Why I Created This Channel) Apr 11, 2022 (3 weeks ago). Because of the daily deluge we're receiving right now, there never has been a more opportune time to learn these basics in real time. RobS^Z 03:21, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

I created this resource: Psychological warfare. I found this online document to be very interesting/informative: Restricted U.S. Army Psychological Operations Process Tactics, Techniques, and Procedures Manual. Conservative (talk) 08:05, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

The US has never been very good at psyops; what they know about it they borrowed from the Brits & Russians. The Snowden leaks gave us insight into where it was at in 2014, which we've now seen applied against the American people daily virtually every day since.

Garrens analysis of Guardian reporting on the Bucha massacre is one of his best so far. [44] You can never unsee what you see once you hear him. RobS^Z 09:21, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Example of the gruesome forensics and factual evidence Bucha investigators uncover to prove Russian atrocities reported by the Guardian: [45]

"Springtime bird song echoed down from the church's tall arches not far from the church gate. Blue and yellow crocus buds were beginning to force their way up through the soil, the first blooms of a Ukrainian spring like no other."

RobS^Z 15:32, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

At least Hitler was (supposedly) "Jewish"?

If Putin was looking for the dumbest man in Russia, it looks he found him: "Russian foreign minister: So what if Zelensky’s Jewish, so was Hitler." This nonsense can be traced back to Hans Frank, Hitler's lawyer. Hitler's father was born out of wedlock, so there is some uncertainty regarding who his grandfather was. But there is no good reason to think he was Jewish. Under Jewish law, you need to have a Jewish mother to be a Jew, or you can convert. PeterKa (talk) 21:52, May 1, 2022 (EDT)

"His Excellancy" Xi Jinping.

I think Lavrov is simply speaking about the use of misinformation to destroy reputations (kinda like has been done to Putin) so you can expect more of this in the future. RobS^Z 00:00, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

The point is moot anyway; it's not the subject that will come up in a formal diplomatic negotiation.

We should be more concerned about President Kamala Harris saying things like "Putin refuses to engage in serious diplomacy" rather than "President Putin refuses....etc." How rude. How disrespectful to the people of Russia. Is this what the American people call "serious diplomacy"? slinging insults and disrespect to a nation's leaders? RobS^Z 00:05, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

And it's not like the Biden White House is stupid and ignorant on proper protocol (well, maybe Kamala is); they call CCP mass murderer Xi Jinping "His Excellency" on the official White House YouTube channel for all 7 billion inhabitants of planet earth (and beyond) to see. RobS^Z 00:24, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

I should add that Hitler's legal, and almost certainly biological, grandfather was Johann Georg Hiedler/Hitler (1792–1857), a nomadic miller and a Catholic. There is nothing in the Austrian records about a Leopold Frankenberger, the name of Hitler's supposed Jewish grandfather. PeterKa (talk) 13:50, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Basically, what Lavrov is doing is mocking you. He is saying, "Since you are stupid enough to believe any line of garbage, try this one on for size." RobS^Z 15:03, May 2, 2022 (EDT)

Russian is a highly inflected language, which means that the meaning of a word or sentence can change with the emphasis placed on a word or syllable. The use of understatement to convey real meaning in Russian is very common. And that's what Lavrov did here. His meaning was "So what? Some people believed that Hitler was Jewish."

Here, the Russian UN Ambassador refers to the "humane West", which he does not mean at all. He is using understatement to convey mockery and expose the hypocrisy of the West. RobS^Z 03:56, May 10, 2022 (EDT)

Another example of Russian inflection and understatement. It's often what is not said but merely implied where the real meaning is. "Imagine Ukraine is in Africa, or Russia is the United States...". RobS^Z 01:10, May 12, 2022 (EDT)