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'''Liberal logic''' is an argument by [[liberal]]s that is deceptively attractive to some, but is actually nonsensical.  Here are some examples:
 
'''Liberal logic''' is an argument by [[liberal]]s that is deceptively attractive to some, but is actually nonsensical.  Here are some examples:
  
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# insisting that someone needs to experience something (e.g., drugs, pornography, gambling, etc.) before being able to criticize it
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# insisting that someone needs to experience something (e.g., drugs, pornography, gambling, etc.) before being able to criticize it.{{fact}}
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# personal experience dictates personal views, rather than rising above bad and/or unusual experiences and basing one's views on [[logic]]
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# personal experience dictates personal views, rather than rising above bad and/or unusual experiences and basing one's views on [[logic]].{{fact}}
 
# frequent reliance on [[circular reasoning]], as in demanding censorship of [[intelligent design]] while simultaneously citing the resulting silence as proof against it<ref>See, e.g., [[Richard Sternberg]].</ref>
 
# frequent reliance on [[circular reasoning]], as in demanding censorship of [[intelligent design]] while simultaneously citing the resulting silence as proof against it<ref>See, e.g., [[Richard Sternberg]].</ref>
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# claim that switching from heterosexual to [[homosexual]] is customary, but switching back is somehow impossible
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# claim that switching from heterosexual to [[homosexual]] is customary, but switching back is somehow impossible.{{fact}}
 
# criticize [[Christians]] for literal interpretations of [[Genesis]], but then insist on even more literal interpretations when it suits the [[liberal]] ideology<ref>For example, [[liberals]] here insist that [[homeschooling]] can only mean being taught while in someone's own home.  Liberals also often insist that the [[Bible]] literally prohibits judging anything.</ref>
 
# criticize [[Christians]] for literal interpretations of [[Genesis]], but then insist on even more literal interpretations when it suits the [[liberal]] ideology<ref>For example, [[liberals]] here insist that [[homeschooling]] can only mean being taught while in someone's own home.  Liberals also often insist that the [[Bible]] literally prohibits judging anything.</ref>
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# no matter what happens in the weather, [[global warming]] caused it
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# no matter what happens in the weather, [[global warming]] caused it.{{fact}}
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# belief that a [[correlation]] and/or [[causation]] (e.g., between [[atheism]] and [[suicide]]) can be disproved by a [[counterexample]] (e.g., one [[atheist]] who remained sane)
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# belief that a [[correlation]] and/or [[causation]] (e.g., between [[atheism]] and [[suicide]]) can be disproved by a [[counterexample]] (e.g., one [[atheist]] who remained sane).{{fact}}
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# often a [[liberal]] responds to a logical comment or question with an (illogical) expression of personal like or dislike, as in "but I like it!"
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# often a [[liberal]] responds to a logical comment or question with an (illogical) expression of personal like or dislike, as in "but I like it!".{{fact}}
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# never admit shame for [[liberal]] behavior, but often tell others they should be ashamed of themselves
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# never admit shame for [[liberal]] behavior, but often tell others they should be ashamed of themselves.{{fact}}
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# [[Americans]] should "move on" past the misconduct of [[Bill Clinton]] and [[Ted Kennedy]], but should dig up as much old dirt as possible about [[John McCain]]
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# [[Americans]] should "move on" past the misconduct of [[Bill Clinton]] and [[Ted Kennedy]], but should dig up as much old dirt as possible about [[John McCain]].{{fact}}
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# if [highly implausible assumption like "[[embryonic stem cell]] research will find the cure for paralysis"], then would you support it (without any consideration of alternatives)?
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# if [highly implausible assumption like "[[embryonic stem cell]] research will find the cure for paralysis"], then would you support it (without any consideration of alternatives)?{{fact}}
 
# [[Barack Obama]] on [[Afghanistan]]: with fewer soldiers, we didn't have enough ammo and humvees!<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21text-demdebate.html?sq=transcript&st=nyt&scp=2&pagewanted=print]</ref>
 
# [[Barack Obama]] on [[Afghanistan]]: with fewer soldiers, we didn't have enough ammo and humvees!<ref>[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21text-demdebate.html?sq=transcript&st=nyt&scp=2&pagewanted=print]</ref>
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# [[free speech]] for anything and everything ... except the [[conservative]] truth, and religion.
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# [[free speech]] for anything and everything ... except the [[conservative]] truth, and religion.{{fact}}
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# insisting on "tolerance" for anything that is anti-[[Christian]], while censorship for anything is [[Christian]]
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# insisting on "tolerance" for anything that is anti-[[Christian]], while censorship for anything is [[Christian]].{{fact}}
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# [[Hollywood]] promotion of [[abortion]] is welcomed, but views of Hollywood actresses towards their own children are concealed
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# [[Hollywood]] promotion of [[abortion]] is welcomed, but views of Hollywood actresses towards their own children are concealed.{{fact}}
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# carrying an unborn child to birth reduces risk of breast cancer, but choosing [[abortion]] rather than childbirth somehow does not increase the relative risk
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# carrying an unborn child to birth reduces risk of breast cancer, but choosing [[abortion]] rather than childbirth somehow does not increase the relative risk.{{fact}}
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# requesting increased spending by [[government]] to reduce poverty, when actually poverty is increased by the dependency
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# requesting increased spending by [[government]] to reduce poverty, when actually poverty is increased by the dependency.{{fact}}
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# insisting that an [[atheistic]] culture cannot harm anyone, but also insisting that classroom prayer can cause harm
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# claiming that an [[atheistic]] culture cannot harm anyone{{fact}}, but also insisting that classroom prayer can cause harm.{{fact}}
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# insisting that teaching [[abstinence]] does not reduce premarital sex and associated disease
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# claiming that teaching [[abstinence]] does not reduce premarital sex and associated disease.<ref>http://media.www.mustangdaily.net/media/storage/paper860/news/2007/04/10/LettersToTheEditor/Teaching.AbstinenceOnly.Unrealistic-2831363.shtml</ref>
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# insisting that premarital sex is fine
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# insisting that premarital sex is fine.{{fact}}
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# insisting that increasing taxes must increase government revenue, when often people just work less and revenues then decline
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# claiming that increasing taxes must increase government revenue<ref>http://capwiz.com/acu/issues/alert/?alertid=11534766</ref>, when often people just work less and revenues then decline.{{fact}}
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# denying that widespread ownership of guns, largely defensive weapons, can reduce crime
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# denying that widespread ownership of guns, largely defensive weapons, can reduce crime{{fact}}
 
# Even though the [[Supreme Court]] overrules precedents every year by 5-4 votes, [[Roe v. Wade]] cannot be overruled, or can only be overruled if it is a unanimous 9-0 vote (this argument tries to make irreversible law out of the dicta in a weak majority opinion in ''[[Planned Parenthood v. Casey]]'', even though the very creation of that "secret opinion" was procured by [[liberal deceit]].)<ref>See Jeffrey Toobin's ''The Nine''.</ref>
 
# Even though the [[Supreme Court]] overrules precedents every year by 5-4 votes, [[Roe v. Wade]] cannot be overruled, or can only be overruled if it is a unanimous 9-0 vote (this argument tries to make irreversible law out of the dicta in a weak majority opinion in ''[[Planned Parenthood v. Casey]]'', even though the very creation of that "secret opinion" was procured by [[liberal deceit]].)<ref>See Jeffrey Toobin's ''The Nine''.</ref>
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# The pronoun "he" has been used to include men and women collectively for centuries, but [[liberals]] find that illogical today. This does not mean to replace the word 'she' on the article for Hillary Clinton with 'he'.
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# The pronoun "he" has been used to include men and women collectively for centuries, but [[liberals]] find that illogical today.{{fact}}
 
# Getting rid of a sadistic dictator by going into [[Iraq]] was wrong but stepping into [[Sudan]] is not.  
 
# Getting rid of a sadistic dictator by going into [[Iraq]] was wrong but stepping into [[Sudan]] is not.  
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# The [[United Nations]] is better suited to judge and direct a country's actions rather than the country itself.
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# The [[United Nations]] is better suited to judge and direct a country's actions rather than the country itself.{{fact}}
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# It is a right to dissent against [[American]] policy but never take a stand if that [[logic]] moves beyond dissent and becomes treason.
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# It is a right to dissent against [[American]] policy but never take a stand if that [[logic]] moves beyond dissent and becomes treason.{{fact}}
 
# The wondrous, pristine national park of [[ANWR]] needs protection to keep its' beauty. Though, it is but a remote barren tundra that few visit. <ref>[http://townhall.com/columnists/MaryFallin/2008/07/24/anwrs_place_in_our_energy_picture ANWR's Place In Our Energy Picture] Townhall.com, July 24, 2008</ref>
 
# The wondrous, pristine national park of [[ANWR]] needs protection to keep its' beauty. Though, it is but a remote barren tundra that few visit. <ref>[http://townhall.com/columnists/MaryFallin/2008/07/24/anwrs_place_in_our_energy_picture ANWR's Place In Our Energy Picture] Townhall.com, July 24, 2008</ref>
 
# It's not fair to the world that [[America]] keeps the thermostat at 72 degrees at all times. <ref>[http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13459 Freedom and the View From Obamaland] American Spectator, July 1, 2008</ref>
 
# It's not fair to the world that [[America]] keeps the thermostat at 72 degrees at all times. <ref>[http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13459 Freedom and the View From Obamaland] American Spectator, July 1, 2008</ref>
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# It is ok to demean an African-American if they are a [[conservative]], if they are a [[liberal]] then you are a [[racist]].
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# It is ok to demean an African-American if they are a [[conservative]], if they are a [[liberal]] then you are a [[racist]].{{fact}}
  
 
==See also==
 
==See also==

Revision as of 19:16, November 15, 2008

Liberal logic is an argument by liberals that is deceptively attractive to some, but is actually nonsensical. Here are some examples:

  1. insisting that someone needs to experience something (e.g., drugs, pornography, gambling, etc.) before being able to criticize it.[Citation Needed]
  2. personal experience dictates personal views, rather than rising above bad and/or unusual experiences and basing one's views on logic.[Citation Needed]
  3. frequent reliance on circular reasoning, as in demanding censorship of intelligent design while simultaneously citing the resulting silence as proof against it[1]
  4. claim that switching from heterosexual to homosexual is customary, but switching back is somehow impossible.[Citation Needed]
  5. criticize Christians for literal interpretations of Genesis, but then insist on even more literal interpretations when it suits the liberal ideology[2]
  6. no matter what happens in the weather, global warming caused it.[Citation Needed]
  7. belief that a correlation and/or causation (e.g., between atheism and suicide) can be disproved by a counterexample (e.g., one atheist who remained sane).[Citation Needed]
  8. often a liberal responds to a logical comment or question with an (illogical) expression of personal like or dislike, as in "but I like it!".[Citation Needed]
  9. never admit shame for liberal behavior, but often tell others they should be ashamed of themselves.[Citation Needed]
  10. Americans should "move on" past the misconduct of Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy, but should dig up as much old dirt as possible about John McCain.[Citation Needed]
  11. if [highly implausible assumption like "embryonic stem cell research will find the cure for paralysis"], then would you support it (without any consideration of alternatives)?[Citation Needed]
  12. Barack Obama on Afghanistan: with fewer soldiers, we didn't have enough ammo and humvees![3]
  13. free speech for anything and everything ... except the conservative truth, and religion.[Citation Needed]
  14. insisting on "tolerance" for anything that is anti-Christian, while censorship for anything is Christian.[Citation Needed]
  15. Hollywood promotion of abortion is welcomed, but views of Hollywood actresses towards their own children are concealed.[Citation Needed]
  16. carrying an unborn child to birth reduces risk of breast cancer, but choosing abortion rather than childbirth somehow does not increase the relative risk.[Citation Needed]
  17. requesting increased spending by government to reduce poverty, when actually poverty is increased by the dependency.[Citation Needed]
  18. claiming that an atheistic culture cannot harm anyone[Citation Needed], but also insisting that classroom prayer can cause harm.[Citation Needed]
  19. claiming that teaching abstinence does not reduce premarital sex and associated disease.[4]
  20. insisting that premarital sex is fine.[Citation Needed]
  21. claiming that increasing taxes must increase government revenue[5], when often people just work less and revenues then decline.[Citation Needed]
  22. denying that widespread ownership of guns, largely defensive weapons, can reduce crime[Citation Needed]
  23. Even though the Supreme Court overrules precedents every year by 5-4 votes, Roe v. Wade cannot be overruled, or can only be overruled if it is a unanimous 9-0 vote (this argument tries to make irreversible law out of the dicta in a weak majority opinion in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, even though the very creation of that "secret opinion" was procured by liberal deceit.)[6]
  24. The pronoun "he" has been used to include men and women collectively for centuries, but liberals find that illogical today.[Citation Needed]
  25. Getting rid of a sadistic dictator by going into Iraq was wrong but stepping into Sudan is not.
  26. The United Nations is better suited to judge and direct a country's actions rather than the country itself.[Citation Needed]
  27. It is a right to dissent against American policy but never take a stand if that logic moves beyond dissent and becomes treason.[Citation Needed]
  28. The wondrous, pristine national park of ANWR needs protection to keep its' beauty. Though, it is but a remote barren tundra that few visit. [7]
  29. It's not fair to the world that America keeps the thermostat at 72 degrees at all times. [8]
  30. It is ok to demean an African-American if they are a conservative, if they are a liberal then you are a racist.[Citation Needed]

See also

References

  1. ↑ See, e.g., Richard Sternberg.
  2. ↑ For example, liberals here insist that homeschooling can only mean being taught while in someone's own home. Liberals also often insist that the Bible literally prohibits judging anything.
  3. ↑ [1]
  4. ↑ http://media.www.mustangdaily.net/media/storage/paper860/news/2007/04/10/LettersToTheEditor/Teaching.AbstinenceOnly.Unrealistic-2831363.shtml
  5. ↑ http://capwiz.com/acu/issues/alert/?alertid=11534766
  6. ↑ See Jeffrey Toobin's The Nine.
  7. ↑ ANWR's Place In Our Energy Picture Townhall.com, July 24, 2008
  8. ↑ Freedom and the View From Obamaland American Spectator, July 1, 2008