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Joe Biden the mime

The Financial Times reports: Biden searches for inflation solution as voter disapproval grows.

Have you ever seen the mime trapped in a box routine? It reminds me of Joe Biden trapped in his self-imposed, self-limiting box that refuses to see the obvious ways to fix inflation with the least pain such as drilling for more oil and gas in the USA and taking off the unnecessary regulatory shackles on the oil and gas industry that Biden put on it.

Oh, well. Joe "King Arthur" Biden will keep seeking his Holy Grail of ways to solve inflation in the USA without offending the political left. Conservative (talk) 05:12, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

Has Original Putin been swapped out?

Is Putin a changed man, or are we listening to Putin at all these days? Look what happened to his ear!

Putin once wanted Russia to be part of the West, Europe, and NATO. Now he is selling his country out to China while burbling neo-tsarist bromides. Once he cleared out the oligarchs, now he is a tool of oligarch Roman Abramovich. Is Third Rome on the way?

Original Putin spoke fluent German! After all, he was a KGB agent stationed in Dresden. Why did Putin divorce Lyudmila in 2013? She could tell us which Putin is the real one. PeterKa (talk) 16:54, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

Occam's razor would say that a medical condition, plastic surgery, etc. would be a better explanation. I am not a big fan of conspiracy theories though I will believe in plausible ones if they are the best explanation. One of the reasons why I believe Jesus rose from the dead is that Jesus' apostles engaging in a conspiracy that they would be willing to die for is very unlikely, but there are many other good/excellent reasons I believe Jesus rose from the dead also. Conservative (talk) 17:04, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

This issue comes up so much that journalists now ask Putin, "Are you real?" "Yes," Putin double responded.[1] Is this how you would you respond if someone asked you if you were real? PeterKa (talk) 17:14, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

The quality of Western journalists have gone down now that the news business is less profitable. It has not gone up. On top of this the quality of journalism schools has gone down post widespread grade inflation and the leftward shift of academia. Conservative (talk) 17:22, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

I don't see why Putin is such an enigma to many to figure out. When you strip away all the lies and propaganda, he's simply a Russian Patriot who loves his country very much - maybe even a bit frustrated that others don't love Russia as much as he does. All the lies and propaganda about Putin are little more than attacks on Russian culture disguised as attacks on Putin. RobS^Z+ 17:48, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

If you want a portrait of the man in 4 minutes 19 seconds, watch him lead this crowd of 130,000 people in the national anthem. It had to be the happiest moment in his life, restoring pride to a country that had been exposed to shock treatment and looting by [[Bill Browder]] and Western oligarchs in the 1990s. Even at the end, he tries to copy the spontaneous chant of U-S-A you hear at American sporting events, with Rus-i-ya.

The Youtube comments are very interesting; one Frenchman remarks that the Russian national anthem makes you feel it is your anthem if you're a foreigner. RobS^Z+ 17:48, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

The corrupt autocrat Putin loves himself more than Russia. In the long run, I don't think the attack Ukraine gambit in 2022 will pay off for Russia in the long term. But narcissism is very common these days among leaders of major powers. Conservative (talk) 17:51, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

The liberal world order is collapsing (along with dollar hegemony). We'll see if your NATO premonitions are coming true.

This just across the wire: Don't bother watching this NATO crap propaganda, just look at the comments. RobS^Z+ 18:12, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

Biden rides the black horse

Inflation is the black horse, the third horse of the apocalypse. "When he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a black horse! And its rider had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard what seemed to be a voice in the midst of the four living creatures, saying, “A quart of wheat for a denarius, and three quarts of barley for a denarius, and do not harm the oil and wine!” (Rev. 6:5-6). In the end times, a quart of wheat will cost a denarius, or a day's wages. PeterKa (talk) 17:49, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

There were right-wingers comparing Obama to the anti-Christ. That isn't being done as much with Biden because he is too unintelligent and incompetent to be the antichrist. Conservative (talk) 17:57, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

Blast at Georgia Guidestones

The Georgia Guidestones are in multiple languages. After a bombing and a backhoe incident earlier today, Georgia may have to struggle on without guidestones.

John Oliver did an expose on the Georgia Guidestones back in May. It turns out that he has an unhinged audience: "Georgia Guidestones: Monument dubbed ‘America’s Stonehenge’ damaged in bomb attack." PeterKa (talk) 18:11, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

In the midst of the fog of war propaganda, this what we call background noise. What is Georgia Guidestones? RobS^Z+ 20:14, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

John Oliver's report is here. It is the only reason anyone outside Georgia would have heard of this monument. They include a list of commandments the advocate population control and reduction. Oliver claims it was built by a segregationist. After the blast, the county sent a backhoe to knock the rest of the monument down.[2] That was fast. Yoko Ono called the stones “a stirring call to rational freedom.” PeterKa (talk) 22:49, July 6, 2022 (EDT)

Boris Johnson "finally" resigns

The Daily Mail has the story. "Recent disclosures that Johnson knew about sexual misconduct allegations against Chris Pincher, a Conservative lawmaker, before he promoted the man to a senior position turned out to be the last straw. Last week, Pincher resigned as deputy chief whip after complaints he groped two men at a private club."

You call that a scandal, Britain? Its not like he fired the prosecutor investigating the company where his son has a no-show job, rehauled bankrupcy law to favor the credit card companies that gave money to his family, or sold an oil reserve to China. PeterKa (talk) 06:51, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Mifsud (left) with UK intelligence head Boris Johnson (center) two weeks after Papadopoulos' plea agreement. According to Never Trumpers, Mifsud is a Russian agent.

Good. Macron, Scholz, Drahgi, and Biden have told Zelensky to make peace; Boris told him to fight on. Maybe now there can a negotiation. RobS^Z+ 07:46, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

It was a battle between the British sentiment of "Never give up"/"Keep a stiff upper lip and press on" and British politeness. I had a feeling that British politeness would win out. I am glad British politeness won out because Boris Johnson was not a good leader. He was untrustworthy and he did not lead by example. Conservative (talk) 09:22, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

So now you understand why Bill Barr & John Durham's interview of Joseph Mifsud in 2019 went nowhere - cause it would implicate Boris Johnson, who just then at the same time ascended to premiership, as a key mover in the Trump-Russia hoax. So Barr had to bury it. What remains to ask now is, is that the only reason he ever was put in the prime ministership - to cover up UK meddling in US elections? RobS^Z+ 16:47, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Putin and Russia did not 'meddle' in US elections - our own NATO allies did - Boris Johnson and UK intelligence. RobS^Z+ 16:51, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Until recently, I had a superficial knowledge of Boris Johnson and I kind of liked him personality-wise because he was personable, strong-minded and he had a sense of humor (Nigel Farage said that about his personality too). But I knew he was not a serious Christian or social conservative. But now that I know more about him, I say "good riddance". Hopefully, he will be replaced by someone better. Nigel Farage hopes that Boris Johnson will be replaced by someone more conservative. One good thing I can say about Boris Johnson is that he helped Brexit go through. And Brexit helped Trump get reelected indirectly.

Recently, I had a lot of contacts with Brits due to my work. They were very polite and a pleasure to deal with. But now that I am pursuing a faster growing/bigger market in that portion of my work, I don't think I will be coming in contact with a lot of Brits. That is too bad. I liked dealing with Brits. Conservative (talk) 20:50, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Boris actually opposed Brexit, so they had to twist his arm to please the base that voted for him. Look at the big to-do he made out of Ukraine getting put on the EU candidate list - what a joke.

I few years ago I was speaking on the phone with a friend in the UK, and he asked me about Trump putting babies in cages. I was dumbstruck by the level of naivete ordinary people in the UK have, taking seriously BBC BS propaganda as factual reporting. RobS^Z+ 21:03, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Bottomline: Boris Johnson - not Vladimir Putin - interfered in American democracy in 2016. And when Bill Barr found out about it, he had to cover it up because Johnson was promoted to Prime Minister, and Barr didn't want to be accused of meddling in UK politics and elections. RobS^Z+ 21:10, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

Boris Johnson may be kicked out sooner than he thinks and his deputy appointed as an interim leader. Conservative (talk) 23:02, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

"Eton [College] is the crucible for generations of political leaders, with 20 of Britain's 55 prime ministers educated there, including the first, Robert Walpole, and the latest, Boris Johnson." - The school that rules Britain.

Maybe a future prime minister of Britain will be someone with business experience. Britain could use that. Eton College seems to be failing if the post Charles Darwin history of the UK and Boris Johnson is any indication of the "leaders" they are "forging". See also: Eton College. Conservative (talk) 23:14, July 7, 2022 (EDT)

• Here's CNN: "Boris Johnson was Kyiv's darling. Now that he's leaving, Ukraine fears what's next." Kyiv is open for business again with Zavertailo’s Café serving a pie called the “Boris Johnsonyuk.” PeterKa (talk) 11:32, July 9, 2022 (EDT)

Shinzo Abe shot

This is a rapidly developing story. Click here for more information.--Geopolitician (talk) 01:34, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Looking for news about the evil attacker but apparently nothing has been discovered or disclosed yet. Japan has strict gun control.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 02:41, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Putin did it. Anti-American propaganda from Russia aimed at Japan has been relentless and hard hitting since the Ukraine war broke out and US pressure on Japan for sanctions. Abe is an American-educated stooge who talks tuff on Taiwan but wants the US to be clear in its intentions. I found The Path To Japan’s Childlessness As Conceived By Its Satanic US Occupiers shocking, largely cause of how many elements of truth are in it. When I read it a few weeks back, I could only wonder the impact it would make in Japan. Woke culture, abortion, feminism, 'Western values', etc is exterminating the Japanese people. RobS^Z+ 03:46, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

The Saker is a mixed bag. Sometimes its articles are right on the money, other times they're dabbling in conspiracy theories. The Saker also appears to have national globalist sympathies, given its publication of several articles openly supporting "Eurasian integration." As for this article in particular, its rhetoric may be over the top but the main point is absolutely spot on. Japan is not a truly sovereign nation, it is a vassal of the US.

On a related note, back in 2009 George Friedman of STRATFOR published a book back titled The Next 100 Years. It can be quite entertaining at times (especially if you're a "future history" nerd like me), but at its core it's a bunch of neocon garbage that reads more like a manifesto laying out what the Deep State will do over the course of the 21st century than a legitimate attempt to predict the future. In essence, it's the Deep State's follow-up to The Grand Chessboard, despite it not being written by Brzezinski himself and it being a book about "what we WILL do" as opposed to "what we SHOULD do." Now, the reason I'm bringing up this book is because it singles out three countries as being vital to the neocon quest to destabilize China and Russia. Japan is one of them, the other two being Poland and Turkey. Do I even need to continue explaining at this point?--Geopolitician (talk) 09:41, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

As to whether Putin is behind Abe's assassination, I have serious doubts. For many years it has been an imperative of Russian geostrategists to form a Russo-Japanese alliance against the US and China. While such an alliance against the US has always been out of the question, such an alliance against China has not. In my opinion, it would be a very serious strategic blunder for Putin to have someone like Abe killed, because the fallout would bring any hopes of a Russo-Japanese alliance against China to a permanent end. A much more likely possibility is the CIA or China having staged a false flag event to frame Russia, as both would benefit from Russo-Japanese tensions far more than Putin ever would.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:51, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Putin did it was a joke, but you know he'll get blamed. Indian analysts have named three suspects: Xi, the most liberal of Japanese liberal democrats, and Biden/CIA. Their conclusion: offing Abe paves the way for when China takes over Taiwan, it's not an international event. RobS^Z+ 11:54, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Also RobS, I hope you’re not implying that Abe deserved it.--Geopolitician (talk) 10:59, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Actually, I was pointing out that Russian propaganda can be as puerile and disgusting as US CIA/MSM propaganda:

"womenomics, the brainchild of late Prime Minister ABE Shinzo, America’s all-time-favorite worm tongue. In 2013, Mr. Abe was allowed an op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal, in which he reported to his foreign superior how his regime intended “to make women shine in the workplace.” The result is millions of single childless women living in 12-square-meter chicken boxes. No sons for thee, but bullsh*t jobs in the city. Remember what we’ve said earlier about Supreme Commander Douglas McArthur and his problem with 7 million babies born in 1947? Well, by 2018, Mr. Abe Shinzo had brought down that number to 0.9 million babies. You can imagine how the Americans loved “Apocalypse Abe.” He was the greatest c**k-s***** and destroyer of the Japanese Washington could have wished for, so got the most positive press of any Japanese leader in living memory."

Interesting, "late Prime Minister ABE Shinzo", six weeks before he was assassinated. Obviously, this author had no love for him. RobS^Z+ 20:32, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

Glad you were just joking. But if the CIA was indeed behind it, it most likely was done in order to make the Japanese more militaristic. After all, Abe’s supporters wanted to re-militarize Japan, and doing something like killing Abe would piss then off enough to become more radical. A Japanese military which has reverted to its pre-WWII state would, more than anything else, would be sufficient to provoke China into launching a large scale military operation in the Pacific, thus giving the neocons and neolibs the pretext for war which they’ve been looking for.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:22, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

It's too early to say anything definitive. However, it seems what the CCP wants, like oil from the strategic reserve or getting rid of Abe, the CCP gets. RobS^Z+ 15:31, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

(incidentally, thesaker is run by Andrei Martynov. Here's his Youtube channel. He does a half hour broadcast every other day or so and is one of Russia's 'America experts'. RobS^Z+ 12:02, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Update: thesaker has been under DDOS attack the past two days. RobS^Z+ 15:33, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

Update: Shinzo Abe died from the shots, it happened within the past hour. --Yeschayi (talk) 05:17, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

I saw a news report from a responsible/moderate news outlet which I think was out of India (Because the Western media was kind of useless as far as talking about the killer's motive). The news outlet speculated that the shooter/killer was probably angry that Shinzo Abe wants to militarize Japan (and make Japan less neutral) and that he is probably a leftist. With that being said, Japan has defamation laws that will convict someone if they harm someone's honor - even if the claim is true. So the killer will probably not rail against Shinzo Abe. And it might seem odd to a Westerner, but there is more respect for authority in Japan so even a killer may not mouth off against a leader he killed.

One source I read states: "Japan's constitution states its neutrality, reading “the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as means of settling international disputes.”[3].

But I think Japan just made an alliance or quasi-alliance so maybe they changed their constitution. I cite: "Before the gathering, China noted its displeasure about Japan’s role in the Quad. In a video call on May 18, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi warned his counterpart, Hayashi Yoshimasa, that Japan should not align itself with the United States and others in ways that could damage Chinese “sovereignty, security and interests.”[4]

But I am not an expert on the Japanese mindset/politics so perhaps someone else can provide greater illumination concerning this matter. Conservative (talk) 10:05, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

That article renouncing war in the Japanese constitution was written by Douglas_MacArthur#Governing_Japan. RobS^Z+ 20:58, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

As far as the article The Path To Japan’s Childlessness As Conceived By Its Satanic US Occupiers, the West has a lot of soft power through its entertainment which changes culture (Maybe the films are dubbed). And perhaps many Japanese attend Western universities. In addition, technology has a way of crossing borders so the pill/contraception spread into Japan which affected Japanese culture. Plus, Japan has gotten richer post WWII so perhaps that affected its values in a negative way. Also, Bin Laden promoted a whole lot of bad ideas, but there is some truth to when he said, “When people see a strong horse and a weak horse, by nature they will like the strong horse.” The USA is a major power (strong horse) so some people are bound to more favorable views about the "strong horses" way of life. So these things have to be taken into consideration also. Conservative (talk) 10:45, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Japan is a more insular society than most and it does not have a lot of foreigner migration to Japan. The idea that the assassination was foreign-bred rather than an internal dispute seems implausible. Loneliness is common in Japan. He was probably a lone wolf. Conservative (talk) 11:59, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Let’s wait until the Japanese police reveal which “religious group” the shooter was talking about under interrogation.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:22, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

A statement by the Japanese is not necessarily conclusive. I'm sure they have their share of Jim Comey's in the government. RobS^Z+ 20:58, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

A Virtual Exhibition Tour of Fanning the Flames: Propaganda in Modern Japan, July 7, 2022. Hoover Institution. RobS^Z+ 21:01, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

We now have a full picture of the assassin's motive. Apparently his mother is a Unificationist, and over the years he's developed an extreme hatred for that movement because he blames its demand for donations for his mother going bankrupt. He originally wanted to kill the leader of the Japanese branch of the Unificationist movement, but he changed his target to Shinzo Abe because of Abe's loose association with that sect. [5] Aside from that, he doesn't appear to have any core political beliefs.[6][7]

Taking the above into account, if the assassin was backed by any group it almost certainly was a group which also has it out for the Unificationist movement. This is because he had no incentive to approach anybody who doesn't have it out for the Unificationist movement for possible assistance.

Off the bat, I can think of seven possible suspects:

1. A follower of a rival sect (of Christianity)

2. China

3. Japanese communists

4. Japanese ultranationalists

5. North Korea

6. Radical atheists

7. Radical Buddhists

8. Let me add one more: NATO and the WEF. [8] RobS^Z+ 18:18, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

The first, sixth, and seventh suspects oppose the Unificationist movement on religious grounds. The second, third, and fifth suspects oppose it on ideological grounds. And the fourth suspect opposes it on both religious and racial grounds (perhaps the absolute last thing Japanese ultranationalists would want to see is their fellow countrymen worshipping a Korean man).--Geopolitician (talk) 23:00, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

If the assassin's co-conspirators are religious fanatics, they were probably lone wolves. If the co-conspirators are hard leftists, there's a good chance China and/or North Korea were also involved. And if the co-conspirators are ultranationalists, there's a good chance the CIA was also involved.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:04, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

In cases like this, because of the age of the suspect, I would classify his views as "hardened" vs a younger, more impressionable person more willing to act on impulse or whim. Now, whether he acted alone, or was willing to offer himself as part of greater conspiracy, is another matter. Either way, his attitude is pathological. IOWs, if the motive seems solid, you can probably stick with it. RobS^Z+ 23:26, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

Belarus threatens war with Poland over border tensions

According to Zero Hedge Belarus sees the recent extension of the wall on its border with Poland as a hostile act by the Polish government, and Belarus is now warning that any further "cross-border provocations" could result in war.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:17, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

These updates from the Austrian military are pretty good. They are sporadic, maybe bi-weekly. Austria is a neutral, non-NATO member, so most it is devoid of the NATO propaganda garbage. In a post-war period, Austria will be the model for a demilitarized Ukrainian rump state. RobS^Z+ 12:27, July 8, 2022 (EDT)

Pompeo’s remarks at the Hudson Institute

Mike Pompeo spoke at the neocon Hudson Institute in June 24. During his remarks he compared Zelensky to George Washington, and listed Ukraine, along with Israel and Taiwan, as “ the three lighthouses for liberty.” To me, that sounds like a message to the world that the Deep State plans to use Israel and Taiwan as tools for potentially destroying Iran and China respectively, just like they are using Ukraine as a tool to potentially destroy Russia. In that event, is it time to stop supporting Israel and Taiwan, and start viewing them with the same suspicion with which we view Ukraine? Source here--Geopolitician (talk) 15:31, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

On a related note, I’m not going to defend what Nick Fuentes said about how we need to root for Ukraine, Israel, and Taiwan all being destroyed just to spite the neocons. That statement was ridiculous and hateful. But I will say that his sentiments didn’t come out of a vacuum. It’s precisely because of statements like what Pompeo said that Fuentes and many other younger populists feel this way, as immature as it may be.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:15, July 10, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, saw most of the speech and still analyzing (I'm not avoiding the question). And I'm not sure I'd qualify the Hudson Institute as a "neocon institution". It's been around a lot longer than neo conservativism has been. RobS^Z+ 04:02, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

I might be wrong, but do governments tend to reduce civil liberties during a war rather than increase them? For example, it is said that the "War on Terror" (Patriot Act) reduced civil liberties as did WWII (Rounding up Japanese Americans and putting them in a camp). On the other hand, due the war in Ukraine, did Zelensky decrease corruption and increase civil liberties because he wanted NATO arms/money? Also, it is generally better to have your own government rather than be ruled by a foreign power, so that would increase Ukraine liberty.

But from an American perspective, the NATO/Ukraine vs. Russia War cost the USA money which increase the national debt of the USA. It also raises the price of gas/food. So these things decrease the liberty of Americans.

And from a world perspective, the NATO/Ukraine vs. Russia War jacks up the price of food/fuel for developing countries which increases political instability and increases hunger/death which isn't exactly liberating.

Any thoughts on these matters? Conservative (talk) 06:22, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Q & A: Goodbye Boris. Mike Pompeo's Ukraine doctrine, Jul 11, 2022. The Duran. RobS^Z+ 21:07, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

If Trump is elected, he may support Ukraine more than Biden. But he also would have the USA crank out more oil

If Trump is elected, he may support Ukraine more than Biden. But he also would have the USA crank out more oil so it would be harder for Putin to fund the war.Trump says US needs to get off the sidelines in Ukraine’s fight for survival. Conservative (talk) 09:05, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

By 2024, supporting Ukraine will be political suicide for any Republican. If Trump runs in 2024, and his foreign policy platform includes support for Ukraine in any way whatsoever, or if he embraces the neocon talking point about how the war began due to Biden being weak, then he will lose many supporters, perhaps enough to cost him the general if not the primary.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:43, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Man, you just don't pay attention to anything, do you?

Ukrainian intelligence was behind Trump-Russia, not the KGB.

Trump was thrown into rage by subject of Ukraine, former aide says: 'They tried to screw me'. RobS^Z+ 14:24, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Trump said in late March of 2022 that he would do more to help Ukraine than Biden is doing.[9] But at the same time, he said Russia would not have attacked Ukraine if he were president now.

RobS, you are referring to an earlier statement of Trump that occurred before March of 2022. So it is not a matter of me not paying attention. Conservative (talk) 17:49, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

No, it's a matter of you believing any line bs reported in MSM, even if spoken by Trump.

If DeSantis were to wrest the nomination away from Trump in less than two years, you're going to look awfully silly for all the stuff you're posting up about a Trumpslide now. RobS^Z+ 18:04, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

RobS, if you're looking for a candidate who would be better than Trump on foreign policy in general and Ukraine in particular, then DeSantis ain't your guy.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:41, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Let's assume everything we've heard and saw about Hispanics, Blacks, and others defecting from the Democrat party is true; let's further assume that holds beyond the Midterms until the 2024 primaries. What makes you think those Democrat defectors and crossovers would vote for Trump in a primary? Maybe they still hate Trump as much as they dislike Biden. Maybe that would be De Santis base strategy. You're not being very welcoming to those defectors, at all. You are essentially demanding that they say "Seig Heil" to Trump. Show some respect for them, and stop working at cross purposes to build a majority coalition.

As to Trump, God love him, but he's not a politician (which is the basis of his appeal). At best, you can say he's an amateur politician, which explains how they hijacked the election from him. Trump probably said that about Ukraine to appeal to idiot voters brainwashed with anti-Putinism, and he doesn't want to get burned by that again, so he talks tuff against Putin (he's actually done that before). RobS^Z+ 18:21, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

IOWs, once a person gets brainwashed, for example "Trump is a racist," or "Putin is a kleptocrat," it's hard to de-program them.

And your trying to sell us on the idea that Trump is a warmonger and a winning issue is crazy. RobS^Z+ 19:05, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Global warming alarmism is a political anchor around the Democrats necks because it helps cause low drilling in the USA which in turn causes high gas prices. And the war in Ukraine has no apparent early end so that raises gas prices higher. Yes, a recession could lower gas prices, but that is not going to help Democrats either. The Democrats have painted themselves into a corner.

In addition, the GOP passed laws to tighten up election laws and Trump supporters have made efforts to be involved in the election worker staffing (poll watchers, etc. etc.).

Ergo, while it may not be a Trumpslide, Trump is the favorite in 2024. Conservative (talk) 19:14, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

You need to back off Trump - who is not on the ballot in 2022 - and allow all those Hispanics and other Democrat defectors to make their own free will choice at the ballot box this November without unnecessary pressure and excess baggage. Show some respect for them. RobS^Z+ 19:22, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Ok, after reflecting on these arguments for the past 48 hours, I think I now have unraveled your reasoning. You're claiming all those black and Hispanics, who previously of maybe even now think Trump is a racist, and have turned on Biden, will in the next two election cycles (2022 & 2024), forgive Trump and vote GOP in 2022 and for Trump in 2024 (assuming we don't get nuked in the interim) because Trump's a warmonger and more credible in saving the liberal world order than Biden is by being tougher in Ukraine. Is that the argument? RobS^Z+ 14:38, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

Trump is the favorite. Hopefully, he doesn't declare his presidential run before the midterms.

I heard from Trump's mouth that he would support Ukraine more than Biden is. That's the reality of it. No selling involved. It appears as if you are struggling with cognitive dissonance and are accusing me of selling something. This is a classic case of "Bad news. Kill the messenger" because you are taking Russia's side in the war. As for me, I just want the war to end as soon as possible in a way that will minimize future conflict. Conservative (talk) 19:29, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Yah, Trump said that in March when MSM was full of manufactured Ukrainian propaganda bs. That narrative has since changed.

Let me restate the above point: If Democrats are leaving the Democrat party, that does not automatically translate into Trump votes. And you are being foolish for expecting that. Maybe they want to vote for De Santis. But when they see your "Trumpslide" stuff, they say "Forget it. I'll remain a Democrat." RobS^Z+ 19:00, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

(ec) This obsession with both Biden and Trump is insane. Neither one has a shelf life beyond three years. Neither one is the Messiah who will lead us to the Promised Land. Everybody, please stop. Focus on issues, not personalities. RobS^Z+ 19:33, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

There's actually a big part of me that's expecting Biden to not serve out a full term. He'll be turning 80 in November, and at that point he will have lived out the average human lifespan. My guess is that he'll resign just after the halfway point (January 20, 2023), allowing Harris to exploit a loophole in the 22nd Amendment which would allow her to run not just in 2024, but also in 2028. You see, if a Vice President becomes President more than halfway through the previous President's term, then that term is not counted by the 22nd Amendment. That's why Lyndon Johnson was able to run in 1968 (JFK was assassinated more than halfway through his term) but Gerald Ford wouldn't have been able to run in 1980 had he won in 1976 (Richard Nixon resigned less than halfway through his second term).

As for Trump running in 2024, at that point he'll be older (by a few months) than Biden was in 2020. And he'll be celebrating his 80th birthday a few months before the 2026 midterms. For that reason alone, I have serious doubts that Trump would be able to handle the stress of serving another full term should he win in 2024. He may well also do the above and resign just over halfway through, allowing his VP to serve out the rest of the term and then run not just in 2028, but also in 2032.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:31, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

On a related note, I would support the following reforms for voting and serving in federal office:

• Raise the minimum voting age from 18 to 20
• Revise the minimum ages for elected office: 27 for the House, 29 for the Senate, 34 for President
• Impose the following term limits for elected officials: 10 terms for the House, 4 terms for the Senate, 5 terms for President
• Require that SCOTUS justices to have served at least 10 years on the bench of a federal appellate court before taking office
• Prohibit SCOTUS justices from serving longer than 20 years
• Prohibit people aged 80 or older from being elected or appointed to federal office--Geopolitician (talk) 13:59, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

I have no idea if Biden will run in 2024 because he has proved himself to be a habitual liar.

But Trump is the clear frontrunner for the GOP. Conservative (talk) 19:45, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Big deal. Do you think it is possible for a Democrat Biden voter who recently left the party to become a Republican, to be turned off by your excessive talk about Trump? Even when Trump is not an issue currently or on the ballot in November? RobS^Z+ 19:57, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Desantis is relatively young man. He probably will not run in 2024 lest he tick off the hardcore Trump supporters and Trump. Desantis will probably wait until 2028 to run. Conservative (talk) 19:52, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

It's probably too early to say if Desantis would run against Trump in a primary. Conservative (talk) 20:08, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

DeSantis absolutely is running in 2024. He may be denying it now, but his meetings with megadonors demonstrate his true intentions. And if that weren't bad enough, many of these megadonors tend to support Establishment politicians, so it's becoming increasingly apparent that his (pseudo-)populist policies are nothing but an act to trick people into backing him against Trump. In a nutshell, he wants to succeed where Ted Cruz failed. Trump should've had him primaried when he had the chance, but now it's (probably) too late.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:41, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

Man, you just don't get the point. Nobody cares to waste time and space discussing presidential politics in the Midterms. We need to use the time and space to hammer inflation, abortion, etc. You are being unnecessarily divisive toward new recruits to the GOP. RobS^Z+ 21:10, July 11, 2022 (EDT)

General Winter is going to help the Russians again.

Who is the Russian general General Winter? See: General Winter and Russia and Russia's General Winter

The New York Times admits:

"I believe the Ukraine war is about to enter a new phase, based on this fact: Many Russian soldiers and generals may be dead, but Ukraine’s steadfast NATO allies are tired. This war has already contributed to a huge spike in natural gas, gasoline and food prices in Europe — and if it drags into the winter, many families in the European Union may have to choose between heating and eating.

As a result, I think the war’s new phase is what I call Vladimir Putin’s “winter strategy” versus NATO’s “summer strategy.”

It is obvious that Putin is ready to keep plowing forward in Ukraine, in the hopes that the soaring inflation in energy and food prices in Europe will eventually fracture the NATO alliance. His bet seems to be: If average temperatures in Europe are colder than normal, and if average global oil and gas supplies are tighter than normal, and if average prices are higher than normal, and if electricity blackouts from energy shortages become widespread, there’s a good chance that European NATO members will start pressuring President Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to cut a deal with Russia — any deal — to stop the fighting.

So Putin must surely be telling his own exhausted troops and generals: “Just get me to Christmas. Winter is our friend.”

It is not a crazy strategy. As The Times’s Jim Tankersley reported last week: “White House officials fear a new round of European penalties aimed at curbing the flow of Russian oil by year-end could send energy prices soaring anew, slamming already beleaguered consumers and plunging the United States and other economies into a severe contraction. That chain of events could exacerbate what is already a severe food crisis plaguing countries across the world.”[10]

And if Joe Biden receives a shellacking in the 2022 midterm elections, he will be more of a lame duck than he already is. That will not help the Ukrainians. Conservative (talk) 12:47, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

If this is what it takes to drive a wooden spike through the heart of the liberal world order, so be it.

There are other important developments coming from Moscow this week. RobS^Z+ 12:55, July 12, 2022 (EDT)

Andrei Yermak

Backgrounder

Andrei Yermak is considered to be the guy actually running the Ukrainian government as Zelensky is busy with his standup routines. Yermak is an old Yatsenyuk flunky who brought back a guy named Tatarov, who used to work for the Berkut police (falsely accused of the Heavenly Hundred masscare). GOP Rep. Victoria Spartz, born in Ukraine, is demanding Yermak's resignation, claiming he's a Russian operative. Democrat Rep. Marcy Kaptur, closely aligned with DNC Banderite Ali Chalupa who colluded with Ukrainian intelligence to manufacture Trump-Russia allegations against Manafort, supports Yermak. Jake Sullivan, named by Special Prosecutor John Durham as deeply involved in spreading false Trump-Russia Alfa Bank allegations and current Biden National Security Advisor, also supports Yermak. Developing. RobS^Z+ 01:36, July 13, 2022 (EDT)

War in Ukraine. A disaster for Ukraine. Ukraine war: Is Russian defeat nothing but a 'fantasy'?

In 2020, Ukraine had a population of 44.13 million.

"The country's population has been declining since the 1990s because of a high emigration rate, coupled with high death rates and low birth rates. The population has been shrinking by an average of over 300,000 annually since 1993. In 2007, the country's rate of population decline was the fourth highest in the world."[11]

"More than five million have left for neighbouring countries, while seven million people are still thought to be displaced inside Ukraine itself."[12] Many of the Ukrainian fleeing their county plan on staying in the countries they emigrated to.

According to the U.S. government, Russia has deported 900,000 to 1.6 million Ukrainians from Russian-occupied regions of Ukraine in a systemic “filtration” operation.[13]

About 35,000 Ukrainian soldiers/civilians killed in this latest war.[14]

Rebuilding Ukraine could cost hundreds of billions of dollars.[15] And the rebuilding costs goes up and up as the war continues.

Time is not on the Ukrainian side: "The united North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) response to the Russian invasion of Ukraine has survived more than a hundred days of brutal fighting. But cracks have recently emerged on both the diplomatic and domestic fronts, along with talk of a negotiated settlement of the war on terms most Ukrainians now reject. Rarely discussed in this new phase, hidden among the cracks, looms a legitimate, realistic concern: what happens when and if Ukraine and the United States differ on what constitutes an acceptable outcome to the war? Now is not the time to talk of concessions Ukraine may one day choose to make. But is it not too early to consider what the United States should do if, as now seems possible, Ukraine demands total Russian withdrawal and the U.S. is willing to accept a partial withdrawal? Meanwhile the war continues, with no end in sight. Among diplomats, however, things have begun to stir, kicked off by a Jovian warning from former U.S. secretary of state Henry Kissinger that the war could widen if negotiations between Ukraine and Russia do not begin “in the next two months,” based, he said, “ideally” on a return to an undefined “status quo ante.”[16]

And in the winter, the Ukraine/NATO may have less bargaining power due to Europe needing Russian gas to a greater degree.[17]

Meanwhile, Germany's mainstream news organization DW produces the video: Ukraine war: Is Russian defeat nothing but a 'fantasy'?

Foreign Affairs magazine publishes an article by a MIT professor political entitled: Ukraine’s Implausible Theories of Victory. The Fantasy of Russian Defeat and the Case for Diplomacy Conservative (talk) 10:43, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Back in the real world:

• Plan A (Failed): Take or encircle Kiev, Kharkiv and Odessa and install puppet regime.

• Plan B (Failed): Take Mariupol, Kherson and Odessa and landlock Ukraine.

• Plan C (Failed): Take the Donbas region by pushing south from Izium and north from Mariupol and encircle and force the surrender of the entire Ukrainian JFO. N.B. Rob's idiotic fan fiction still maintains this happened in March.

• Plan D (Failed): Take the remainder of Luhansk region by pushing south-east from Lyman and north from Popasna and encircle and force the surrender of Ukrainian troops defending Severodonetsk and Lysychansk.

• Plan E (Achieved painfully slowly and at considerable cost): Take the remainder of Luhansk region with frontal assaults on Severodonetsk and Lysychansk and allow Ukrainian troops to retreat in good order.

There's a very good reason Putin keeps purging his military leadership and it's not because he thinks he's winning. ConwayIII (talk) 13:13, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Russia did badly in WWII at first and it started the war with a weakened military leadership due to politically motivated purges. But it won its war against the Nazis.

Russia has a much bigger population size than Ukraine so it can more readily win a battle of attrition. The war is presently a heavy artillery fire war of attrition.

Pro-Ukraine PBS reports: Russia almost fully in control of Donbas province, now holds 20 percent of Ukraine.

Russia is more committed to the war in Ukraine than Europe. Biden has weak domestic approval and Donald "America first" Trump could win in 2024. When a president has weak domestic approval (like Biden), it's risky for him to focus too much time on a foreign proxy war. Conservative (talk) 14:15, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

P.S. ConwayIII, if you were planning on going to Eastern Ukraine and attending a gay parade in Luhansk in the next 5 to 20 years, I would cancel your vacation plans. In all likelihood, it is going to be under Russian control. In 2013, an "Anti-Gay" parade organised by Cossacks and Orthodox activists was held in Lugansk.[18]

The official Pride parade in Kyiv was canceled this year. Also, Ukraine was the 'queer capital of Eastern Europe.' Russia's war changed everything.

First the Afghans rejected the homosexual agenda and now this! Oh secular leftists and secular liberals, feel the sting! Conservative (talk) 14:35, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

The sooner this war is over via a peace deal, the better off the Ukrainians and the world will be. The Ukrainians are not winning this war. Also, the war is terrible for the developing nations that need food/fertilizer from Ukraine/Russia. Conservative (talk) 14:47, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Putin will be dead in < 5 years, so you might want to give your crystal ball a polish. In the meantime, there's no good reason to believe the Russian army will suddenly become more proficient in combined arms operations and so they'll continue to slog away ineffectually and the Ukrainians and NATO will happily assist Putin in his quixotic bid to demilitarize as much of his own land forces as possible. ConwayIII (talk) 15:53, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

ConwayIII, as noted earlier, Russia has 20% of Ukraine under its control. If you think the nationalistic Russians are going to give up that land easily while Putin is alive or dead, you are engaging in wishful thinking. The Russians have shown far more commitment to this war than the USA/NATO. And the economic forecasts are not rosy for the USA/Europe and at the end of the day, the largest, wealthy Western European countries (Germany, France, etc.) and the USA care more about themselves than Ukraine.

And time is not on the Ukrainians side (TIME IS NOT ON KYIV’S SIDE: TRAINING, WEAPONS, AND ATTRITION IN UKRAINE, Source: Modern War Institute at West Point, June 27, 2022 and Is time on Ukraine’s side?, Brookings Institute). And I am citing very pro-West, pro-Ukraine sources!

The corrupt Ukrainians can kiss their recently conquered land and Crimea goodbye.

But maybe there is something you know that I don't know. Is Ukraine planning on sending their gayest soldiers trained by the gayest UK soldiers against the Russians? Conservative (talk) 18:21, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

I'm afraid I have no information on the relative gayness of any soldier or military formation, Ukrainian or otherwise, but I can tell you that Russia is having to offer three-month contracts at 3-4 times the usual salary in order to replenish its staggering losses to date. That doesn't bode well for long-term force sustainment and suggests a distinct lack of enthusiasm for this war amongst ordinary Russians. ConwayIII (talk) 20:36, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Russia has a long history of being authoritarian. And Russia is nationalistic - including its leaders. So you are telling us that Russia's nationalistic leaders are not going to be bulldogs when it comes to Russia keeping its territorial gains in Ukraine? The Soviet-Afghan War lasted 10 years and it was in difficult and mountainous terrain that was not on the border of Russia. The Russians don't have a reputation for being pushovers. But you are telling us that the war in Ukraine is the historical exception when it comes to the Russians not being pushovers. It is not the historical exception. You are engaging in wishful thinking.

By the way, where was NATO when Russia took over Crimea? Russia has had Crimea since 2014. How much military hardware did NATO send Ukraine to get back Crimea? Conservative (talk) 21:52, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

ConwayIII, the other major thing you are not taking into account is that if the Russians were to start losing this war in a significant manner, the risk to the Americans that the Russians would use tactical nukes on the battlefield increases. And from there, a full-blown nuclear war could ensue between USA/NATO vs. Russia. And don't think that American military strategists are not aware of this. Even the American public is aware of this (see: Nuclear attack preparedness highlighted in NYC video). And the USA rules the NATO roost. Conservative (talk) 01:06, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

ConwayIII, for the record, I am not a cheerleader for the Russians or the Ukrainians. Both are corrupt regimes with authoritarian bents. I am just a realist who doesn't think the Ukrainian underdog will win this fight. And it's better for the Ukrainians, the Russians and the world if this conflict comes to an end as soon as possible. Conservative (talk) 05:50, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

All of Putin's European military adventures have been boondoggles with the sole purpose of distracting from the obvious failures of his mafia regime. Previously, he's been canny enough to keep them sufficiently small-scale to avoid both serious international repercussions and any risk of overextending himself militarily.

I don't know what changed this time round, but at a (reasonable) guess, I'd say a disastrous combination of age, poor health, hubris, and an epic failure in Russian intelligence. He sincerely believed the Zelenskyy administration would flee / collapse and there were viable pro-Russian elements across the country who could be installed quickly and relatively painlessly.

Since that blew up in his face, it's been damage limitation and casting around for an exit strategy he can sell as a "victory" back home. I refer you back to Plans B - E above and remind you than an army without a clear sense of what or why it's fighting is destined to fail, one way or another.

The risks of escalation are real, but low, as long this remains a proxy war and there's no direct, explicit exchange of fire between NATO and Russian forces. Mercifully, both sides seem to understand that. ConwayIII (talk) 10:37, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

You wrote: "All of Putin's European military adventures have been boondoggles". I don't pretend to be an expert, but I believe that Crimea has some strategic importance (Plus the value of the land) and Russia conquered that in 2014.

Next, Russia recently conquered 20% of Ukraine which lies in the Eastern part of Ukraine and that has some value (Oil and gas, farming, etc.) plus it acts as a buffer zone. And it seems unlikely that Ukraine will get that land back.

In addition, Professor John Mearsheimer at University of Chicago (who is a very prominent professor in his field who is in the realist camp of international relations), said that Russia wanted to "wreck Ukraine" when it posed a threat by potentially becoming a NATO member. By "wrecking Ukraine" Putin hurt the country economically and in terms of its population size (Russia kidnapped Ukrainians and sent them deep in Russia. In addition, many Ukrainians fled Ukraine). So now Ukraine is weaker. Just like the USA saw Cuban missiles as being a threat and in violation of the Monroe Doctrine, Mersheimer indicates that Russia sees NATO as a threat.

Furthermore, Putin can potentially force Ukraine to agree to become a neutral country that agrees to never join NATO.

In addition, Putin can hurt Europe by disrupting its energy supply and by causing many illegal/legal immigrants to go to Europe due to being Ukrainians fleeing war and people from developing countries fleeing hunger (Ukraine supplies food). If Putin hurts Europe economically and causes lots of immigrants go to Europe, it could cause anti-immigrant, right-wing parties to gain power in Europe that are more friendly to Russia. Even if Putin releases some of the already produced food, he could use it as a bargaining chip.

Also, by "wrecking Ukraine" the Russian people will not see a nation ethnically related to Russia on its border prospering and being somewhat more free (Ukraine does have some authoritarian behavior in its politics) which could threaten Putin's regime because the Russians could be envious and want the same.

So that is how Putin potentially sees things. Of course, a cost/benefit analysis can only be done as far as Russia when the war is over or at least a frozen conflict. And it will be somewhat subjective and have to include such things as: Finland and Sweden likely joining NATO; sanctions; loss of life and injuries; loss of trade; the USA potentially having decent relations with Russia as a counterweight to China; the USA/Europe supplying arms to Ukraine and possibly help rebuild Ukraine, Russia's military expenses, Russia helping to develop an alternative to SWIFT; more incentive for countries to not use dollars (The USA is the world's reserve currency), etc. I am of the opinion that the war is a losing proposition for all parties involved (Ukraine, Russia and NATO countries) and a loss for parties not directly involved like developing countries that import Ukraine food. Conservative (talk) 13:39, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

This is a very schizophrenic attitude: the defeat of NATO and the defeat of globalism go hand in hand. RobS^Z+ 14:43, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Let's take this phrase from one of the linked sources: "what happens when and if Ukraine and the United States differ "

Oh, so inherent in this statement is the loss of Ukrainian sovereignty to the United States. By accepting American aid, and American notions of "liberal democracy", you accept gay marriage and transgenderism as well and give up your sovereignty. Outside of the 30 members of NATO and the European Union, this is a tough sell. Most of Africa, Asia, Eurasia, and Latin America aren't keen on giving up their sovereignty, no matter how much money the West tries to bribe them with. And the BRICS alliance has the resources to make investments and give aid - without the coercive demands to the developing world to impose societal change, give up their sovereignty, or threaten regime change. RobS^Z+ 15:14, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Back to this statement: "what happens when and if Ukraine and the United States differ "

I got news for you, they already have differed, and we've seen the result. Gen. Zalushny, CoC of the Ukrainian forces, has wanted to withdraw forces from these senseless battles and spare the lives of men; but Zalensky takes his orders from NATO, and like Hitler in the bunker relays the order to fight to the last man. What happens? The result: 30,000 to 50,000 needlessly dead for the glory of the liberal world order. Do you think you can hide these facts from surviving Ukrainian families with modern Western liberal democracy censorship? RobS^Z+ 15:25, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Crimea is a useful example. For practical (strategic) purposes, we can just say Sevastopol. Prior to Putin's 2014 boondoggle, the port essentially had the same status as Kaliningrad: an unquestioned Russian enclave that everyone accepted as a necessary strategic fact.

There was no version of Ukraine joining the EU or NATO that would have resulted in loss of Sevastopol. Worst case scenario: Russia would've had to pay fair rent on the land and Ukraine / NATO would've acquiesced to the continued military presence.

Putin's Crimean boondoggle was performative territorial pissing over something (Sevastopol) that everyone was already content to treat as Russian. This flex was successful for domestic distraction purposes, but it nuked any lingering pretence that Russia / Putin was a reliable partner re. European stability and security.

You're a chess player, Ben. I shouldn't need to reiterate the superiority of strategy over tactics. ConwayIII (talk) 21:04, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Donald Trump, an advocate of America first, strengthened NATO. He got NATO members to chip in more money. His advisor Steve Bannon said Trump wanted America to have allies via NATO and not protectorates. Conservative (talk) 21:12, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Duh, why was the Crimea Annexed? It was a reaction to the United States overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine. RobS^Z+ 22:31, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

The current war began with the Maidan coup, which was about two years in the planning. The Crimean Annexation came days later after its implementation. How this occurred was outlined in the Snowden leaks, and everything that has occurred since: the partnership of Big Tech with the CIA; Trump Russia; Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election; Big Tech censorship of free speech; Trump impeachment, etc.

NATO has betrayed its own alleged "principles" of protecting "liberal democracy". The boys in Kremlin drew a red line long before the latest US/NATO shenanigans. RobS^Z+ 22:50, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

It should not be too difficult for the average reader to understand what is going on here. One year ago, the major issue on everyone's mind was decoupling from China because the U.S. didn't so much as produce antibiotics anymore, and was dependent on China in the case of a pandemic. That overarching national security concern was thwarted by a bunch of D.C. planners. We first heard about it from Tulsi Gabbard and Tucker Carlson in April 2021, and seemed out-of-sync and insane at the time. [19] The result: NATO war planners drew Russia and China closer together and made the U.S. more dependent on Chinese manufactured medical products to fight Chinese bioweapons. Disordered priorities. RobS^Z+ 23:14, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Is the South Korean-American alliance doomed?

This question may seem absurd on the surface, but hear me out.

Nearly 80 years later, many South Koreans still greatly resent Japan for the atrocities it committed during the occupational era (1910-45). This resentment is so strong that not only are many of them celebrating Shinzo Abe's assassination,[20][21] but according to a poll taken back in 2019 far more of them would rather ally with North Korea against Japan than with Japan against North Korea.[22]

Although a subsequent poll taken in 2021 showed that South Koreans dislike China even more than they dislike Japan,[23] the results of the former poll still shouldn't be disregarded. After all, the second poll was taken (1) in the immediate aftermath of the COVID pandemic; and (2) at a time where China was beefing up its military at a far greater rate than Japan was. Those two events appear to have tipped the balance in that two-year period, but what happens once COVID becomes a more distant memory (there's no way in hell it will become ingrained in the South Korean people's collective memory the same way the Japanese occupation has), and Japan accelerates its own re-armament as what appears to be an inevitable conflict between itself and China draws closer? I could be wrong, but I strongly suspect the results of the second poll are a temporary fluke that will come to an end in the not-so-long term.

The above being said we have no choice to allow Japan to re-arm as things heat up in East Asia, because Japan cannot stand a chance against China otherwise and if Japan falls it would be catastrophic for our national security. However, that could come at a big price. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that if Japan re-arms to a great enough degree, our alliance with South Korea will end up in serious jeopardy. I wouldn't even rule out the possibility of South Korea breaking the alliance completely and realigning with China.

Please share your thoughts below.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:03, July 14, 2022 (EDT)

Thanks to China's former one-child policy and lack of quality, long-term planning, China is an aging population with a lot of debt. So while China is a leading power, there is a distinct possibility that that power could be degraded down the pike. And in an age of technology, the future belongs to cultures that prize creativity - something China's communists do not prize. Hopefully, the Chinese communists will fall from power. But if they do fall from power, it will be due to very big economic problems. The only thing bright in China's future is its rapidly growing Christian population (see: Growth of Christianity in China). Conservative (talk) 18:59, July 14, 2022 (EDT

In the new liberal world order, we really don't need a powerful Navy to defend the sea lanes for shipping Persian Gulf oil to Japan and South Korea; let them eat solar, as the Europeans have done. RobS^Z+ 16:04, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

The liberal world order is a fantasy. We live in a multipolar world. The Afghans, Putin, and the China are demonstrating this. China is in quasi war with the USA: Stealing military and industrial technology; state funded mercantile trade wars; etc. And it is difficult for the USA to fight a two front war - proxy war with Russia and quasi war with China. Conservative (talk) 21:53, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

It won't be a fantasy if NATO wins its war on Russia. RobS^Z+ 23:25, July 15, 2022 (EDT)

Even if Russia lost the war in Ukraine, it would still be a multipolar world due to China and the continuing influence of Russia. Russia could still exert a significant amount of power even if it lost the war in Ukraine due to its oil/gas/agriculture and it would still be a nuclear power. Plus, Russia is meddling in foreign elections (Russian bank funded Le Penn's campaign, etc.). But things look bad for the European economy as far as the winter and energy needs. In addition, Saudi Arabia wields a lot of power over the USA when Democrats are allowed to control energy policies. European right-wing populism is going to grow due to anti-Muslim immigration sentiments and economic problems in Europe and often these right-wing parties are friendlier to Russia. Conservative (talk) 14:55, July 16, 2022 (EDT)

There is no chance (and never was any chance) Russia will be defeated. America will be nuked first. In that scenario (which comes closer every day) you can call it a draw.

The NYC PSA, released after all Russian nuclear armed submarines (largest fleet in the world) took to the sea, is useless. It gives no instructions how to survive a 100 ft radioactive tsunami from an underwater nuclear blast. RobS^Z+ 15:58, July 16, 2022 (EDT)

Update on US subhunter aircraft activities this week. [24] RobS^Z+ 16:09, July 16, 2022 (EDT)

The USA spending a lot of money to defend the corrupt country of Ukraine (which is not a full democracy) is not a good investment

Ukraine is not a full democracy and it is corrupt: "The Economist Intelligence Unit, which recently released its 2021 Democracy Index, doesn’t even consider Ukraine either a full or flawed democracy. Rather, Ukraine falls into the “hybrid regime” bucket, tied for 86th place with Mexico in the democracy rankings... Similarly, Transparency International, which annually ranks 180 countries based on perceived corruption, gives Ukraine poor marks. The latest version of the Corruption Perceptions Index ranks Ukraine 122nd, with a score of 32 out 100 (where a lower score indicates more public-sector corruption)."[25]

Why the USA shouldn't be pouring a lot of money into Ukraine:

Due to the babyboomers in the developed world getting older and putting a bigger stress on these economies and due to the sovereign debt of many of these same countries building up, I think there is going to be another Great Depression in 8 to 11 years.[26][27] At that time, the nations that have a huge amount of debt will be hurting for awhile - especially the Japan. But because the USA has a younger population due to immigration compared to many other developed countries, it will bounce back faster. In summary, in 10 years the countries will the least debt and youngest populations will be more competitive than they are now.

So I don't think it is in the USA's national interest to spend a lot of money to arm the corrupt country of Ukraine and then help rebuild it.

And the USA economy is a huge part of the global economy and the tougher its economic downturns are, the more the rest of the world will suffer.

Reasons for Americans to be hopeful and not be doom and gloomers:

The USA is blessed with: lots of good land; two big oceans and relatively friendly neighbors to protect it; and an excellent national constitution and a big Christian population that will start to rebound in about 20-30 years due to desecularization caused by the higher birth rates of Christians over the nonreligious/irreligious.

A lot can change in the world in 10-30 years and its helpful to look at long term trends for important factors and that resiliency matters. For example, in 1989 6 out of 10 of the biggest companies in terms of their stock market capitalizations were Japanese. (see the 4 minutes and 48 seconds point in the video Most People Have No Idea What Is Coming). But the Japanese/global economy changed and beginning in 1996 the Japanese GNP was beginning to stagnate.[28]

But the USA has gotten complacent in terms of the wisdom of its economic and foreign policy so it will go through a big economic downturn for a number of years.

Worst case scenario:

“We should understand that amid the world war – because all the talks that it is a regional or a local war must be dropped – the entire Western world is fighting against Russia via Ukrainians. It is a global conflict.” – Aleksandar Vucic, President of Serbia

“I know what awaits us. As soon as Vladimir Putin has done his work in Seversk, Bakhmut and Soledar, after reaching the second line Slaviansk-Kramatorsk-Avdeevka, he will come up with a proposal. And if they [the West] don’t accept it, – and they won’t – all hell will break loose.” – Aleksandar Vucic, President of Serbia

In short, WWIII with potential nuclear escalation Conservative (talk) 05:22, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

The Economist Intelligence Unit. Made me laugh. I read a piece of GRU propaganda last night, excerpted: [29]

"The globalist system at the World Bank, Goldman Sachs, or the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard University has a set track for the best and the brightest from “advanced nations.”

Elites from Australia, France, Germany, Norway or Italy, learn to speak fluent English, spend time in Washington, London, or Geneva at a think tank or university, secure a safe sinecure at a bank, a government institution, or a research institute that assures them a good income, and adopt the common sense, pro-finance, perspective offered by the Economist Magazine as the gospel."

So that's where you get you New World Order talking points from. RobS^Z+ 15:17, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

I am sure that the conservative lawyer Andy Schlafly could confirm to you that one very effective rhetorical technique that lawyers use is the use of hostile witnesses. A hostile witness is a witness from the opposing side. I use this technique very frequently at Conservapedia because I don't want to merely preach to the choir (Conservapedia's evolution article quotes evolutionists very frequently for example). In the past, Andy told me that Conservapedia gets a lot of traffic from the liberal/leftist side of the aisle.

I think it is very fair to say that conservatives very frequently call Ukraine corrupt/authoritarian, but that criticism is not as commonly used by the liberal/left side of the aisle ever since they have been "standing with Ukraine"

Furthermore, I recently wrote the essay Western, liberal dominance over the world is over which quotes Tony Blair which is cited by RT.com (RT.com is a pro-Russia website that is affiliated with the Russian government). I am guessing that you are not going to accuse Russia of embracing the global world order because they quote Tony Blair. Conservative (talk) 16:39, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Russia is a charter member of the UN with a permanent seat on the Security Council. The liberal world order now wants to take that away. Russia could have vetoed the Security Council Resolution empowering NATO to enforce an arms embargo on Libya - no weapons to either side. What did NATO do? It started bombing Ghaddafi forces and shared intelligence with the jihadis "moderate rebels", including telling them what sewer Ghaddafi was hiding in, so in the name of "humanitarianism" as Obama said, they ripped his eyes out, stuck a bayonet up his butt, before they dragged his corpse around town. Yah, these Libyan victors represent democracy and the liberal world order. We need an article on war of aggression, which the UN was founded to outlaw (in a "rules based order"); but the Libyan war was a NATO and US war of aggression. RobS^Z+ 20:33, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

So here's the problem: NATO and the United States are fighting for a "rules based order"; in 2014 the Obama administration violated those rules by overthrowing a democratically elected president in Ukraine. Your posting here says after eight years of WEF/US/NATO/EU control and governance of Ukraine, Ukraine is no more "democratic" than before the illegal coup. RobS^Z+ 16:45, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Previously I wrote at Conservapedia that wars tend to make a society more authoritarian rather than less (In the USA, the War on Terror helped cause the Patriot Act which many said gave too much power to the state. In WWII, America interned Japanese-Americans). So it would be hard to believe that the Ukraine is less authoritarian at the present time. But maybe the West forced Ukraine to be less authoritarian in return for military aid and money, but I highly doubt it.

If Ukraine tried to work with Russia in relation to their compliance with the Minsk Agreements (I might be wrong, but perhaps both sides were violating things related to the Minsk Agreements), they probably could have avoided the war. Russian separatists were a big catalyst in terms of sparking this latest war. Ukraine would have been better off letting the Russian separatists separate from Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 16:54, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Sepratists did not start the war - the United States did when it violated the U.S,'s own "rules based order," violating the democratic rights of the people of Donetsk & Luhansk by overthrowing the president they voted for. RobS^Z+ 17:01, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

As to the Minsk Agreements, the U.S. State Department and NATO told both Poroshenko and Zelensky not to carry them out. RobS^Z+ 17:07, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Using "aid" as leverage (or blackmail) the U.S. thwarted the peace process. The U.S. is guilty as sin in provoking and starting this conflict. RobS^Z+ 17:11, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

When I post something at Conservapedia, I often don't delve deeply into the whole matter. Otherwise my posts would be too long. Getting into who caused the war is beyond the scope of my post in some regards. Because hypothetically, even if the war is completely Russia's fault, that doesn't necessarily mean that the USA should give military aid and other funds to the Ukrainians. For example, the Soviet Union was the USA's ally in WWII and Germany attacked the Soviet Union, but I don't believe that America offered some kind of lend-lease program to the Soviets (like they did with UK/European Allied countries) nor should they have. Conservative (talk) 17:11, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

The U.S. started the war 8 years ago, and the U.S. is responsible for prolonging the war now. It would have been over two months ago (and maybe 40,000 Ukrainian soldiers would still be alive) if not for all the NATO weapons and intelligence sharing of targets (an act or war). And what are we fighting for? "The Rules Based Order". RobS^Z+ 17:21, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

<incidentally> Yes there was Lend-Lease to the USSR, through Murmansk, the Persian Gulf (Iran), and Vladivostok. Solzhenitsyn speaks of his and Red Army troops early criticism of the communist system when 12 guys had to share a can of SPAM from Lend-Lease cause the USSR was incapable of feeding its people, let alone its soldiers. RobS^Z+ 17:32, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

So what exactly is this "rules based order"?

The United States says, You can't just change international borders by invading, occupying, and annexing Crimea.

Russia says, You can't just annex Ukraine to NATO by a coup. RobS^Z+ 17:46, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

An article on the "rules based order": The rules-based order. The USA has often meddled in others nation's politics through the CIA and even tapped into Germany's Angela Merkel's phone through the NSA. So I am skeptical about America's adherence to a "rules based order". In addition, I see American laws that favor liberalism (Special rights to Democrat/liberal constituencies) and a two-tier legal system that often lets Democrats go unpunished and a legal system that does witchhunts on Republicans/conservatives. Conservative (talk) 19:39, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Propagandists have already changed the name of the "rules based order" as the truth regarding Ukraine gets out and becomes a domestic issue: it is now the "liberal world order." RobS^Z+ 19:50, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

As to meddling, the U.S. forced regime change in Pakistan since the war started cause Imran Khan wouldn't go along with Russia sanctions.

US Fingerprints Found Behind Sri Lanka Unrest. RobS^Z+ 20:01, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

News Update: A lot has happened and is happening over the past several days. Ukraine has flooded the field with untrained conscripts, males 16-60 and females not interested in having children. Now, you will recall Putin said on Feb. 24 that there was a dual objective: both a military and police operation - the arrest or liquidation of Nazis ("we know who they are.") In several of the feints that have occurred, the purpose apparently was to extend into enemy territory for the purpose of capturing or killing one Nazi leader. In the Donbas cauldron, the Russians are showing no interest in killing these untrained conscripts. They are specifically targeting professional fighting forces, and more importantly, Ministry of Interior neo-Nazi forces. Also, Ukraine not only has a raft of desertions, fighting has broken out between regular units and Nazi units (the Ministry of Interior Nazi units function like Soviet era commissars and shoot people trying to retreat.)

On the political front, three G7 bosses were canned this week, BoJo, Draghi, and Abe. Zelensky is rumored to be the next to go (Biden , too seems on thin ice). There can be no ceasefire with Zelensky in place. Rumor is, the EU and NATO are plotting to get rid of him (so he can retire to his villa in Miami) cause he pulled an Erdogen - threatened to flood Europe with more refugees unless the EU & US up the welfare payments from $5 billion to $9 billion a month. Additionally, the UN and the Hague investigators are looking into Zelensky war crimes, which is the pretext to get rid of him.

Gen. Zelushny is the likely successor, at least to sign a peace agreement and give away territory. Zalushny has tried to spare the lives that that idiot maniac, Zelensky, taking order from Jake Sullivan and NATO, cost at least 40,000 dead. And that figure is rising. A month ago reports were 60-100 a day. Then 200-500 a day. Now its like 500-1,000 a day, or 20,000-30,000 per month. May God have mercy on Joe Biden and all the NATO warmongers souls. RobS^Z+ 19:38, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Abe was assassinated and he was a former Japanese leader. He was not canned. Conservative (talk) 19:42, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

It depends who assassinated him. You should read that GRU propaganda piece. Sure, in the US people will dismiss it as a "conspiracy theory". But people in Japan want answers, and they aren't particularly enamored to globalism, either. RobS^Z+ 19:50, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Does the "rules based order" and/or "liberal world order" require aggressive contact tracing for monkeypox and mandatory vaccination for the most at risk population(s). I am asking because this doesn't seem to be happening in New York City among men who have sex with men (MSM)(See: New York City now has three mass vaccination sites set up to combat the growing monkeypox outbreak in its five boroughs). See also: Homosexuality and health. Follow the science! Conservative (talk) 22:25, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Rules based order refers to the conduct between nations, and not individuals. And when the U.S. doesn't like the rules it writes for others to be applied to itself, it just re-writes the rules. This is what happened in Kosovo, Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria and Ukraine since 1991, to name just few where aggressive military force was used.

Rules based order, liberal world order, American hegemony, and unipolarism are all codewords for the same thing. RobS^Z+ 22:37, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

Let's talk about the SWIFT banking network. In just the past few months, the "rules based order" seized the bank accounts of Canadian truckers and Russian oligarchs. This is meant as an "enforcement mechanism", but has had the opposite effect: people with money now know putting your assets in a globalist bank is like putting it in a Chinese or Cuban bank - it can be seized without warning. It has destroyed confidence in banks and the economy. As Alexander Mercouris says, globalists have no reverse gear, they never admit to a mistake (like Russia sanctions) and end doubling down. RobS^Z+ 22:53, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

The God gap

The Democrats are becoming the party of white, college educated atheists. Blacks and Latino voters have been alienated by the anti-Christian antics. 21 percent of white Dems are atheists compared to 5 percent of nonwhites. See "The God Gap Helps Explain a 'Seismic Shift' in American Politics." We just need somebody who is a more convincing Christian than Trump. How to win over these Christian voters? My first thought is the bring back marriage as a union of a man and a woman. PeterKa (talk) 16:39, July 17, 2022 (EDT)

In about 8 years, America may go through Great Depression 2.0.[30] It has been said that there is a cycle of hardship/character to prosperity/libertineness. Namely, hard times creates people with character and prosperity. Then prosperity causes libertine people and poverty. Then hard times creates people with character and prosperity. Then prosperity causes libertine people and poverty. And so on. We can see this in the ups and downs of the Jewish people in the Old Testament.

On a brighter note, the long term trend in the USA will be religious people having the most kids and peak secularism is expected to hit around 2043 or 2050 (see: United States, irreligion vs. religion and demographics). But it might happen before this due to a flood of religious immigrants across the USA southern border during the Biden administration. Religious people migrate more than nonreligious/irreligious people (see: Religion and migration) because they are less likely to be pansies (they are braver and more willing to endure harship)! Not a single pansie got on the Mayflower! Only tough guy, hardworking Puritans got on the Mayflower (And their lovely, godly wives). The atheist and Harvard University historian Niall Ferguson declared: "Through a mixture of hard work and thrift the Protestant societies of the North and West Atlantic achieved the most rapid economic growth in history."[31] Conservative (talk) 20:47, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

BREAKING: Dr. Fauci To Retire!

Please Add To In The News:

BREAKING: Dr. Fauci to retire after Biden leaves office. https://nypost.com/2022/07/18/dr-anthony-fauci-says-hell-quit-by-end-of-biden-term/ --TheNewRight (talk) 13:15, July 18, 2022 (EDT)

Propaganda update

• 2019 interview with Zelensky in praise of Ukrainian Nazi mass murderers. RobS^Z+
• Mearsheimer update: Russia-Ukraine war analysis. RobS^Z+ 18:31, July 18, 2022 (EDT)
• Glorification of Waffen SS and Nazi collaborators in Ukraine.. Note: the swastika on playground in Kremenchuk at 7:14 is particularly interesting. RobS^Z+ 12:09, July 20, 2022 (EDT)
• Putin’s Holy War Against Satanic West. RobS^Z+ 22:33, July 20, 2022 (EDT)
• Youth in America vs. youth in Russia. RobS^Z+ 14:56, July 21, 2022 (EDT)
• Subtle as a Brick Through a Window, U.S. Media Starts Reshaping Corrupt Ukraine Narrative. RobS^Z+ 20:45, July 21, 2022 (EDT)
• Andrei Martynov demonstrates why he's Russia's leading 'America Expert', compares U.S. military analysts to Al Bundy who once scored 5 touchdowns in a single game for Polk High. 18:54, July 22, 2022 (EDT)
• What do the people of Mariupol really think of Zelensky & Biden? See for yourself.

The crimes committed by the United States in Ukraine will not be forgotten in a generation. RobS^Z+ 00:50, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

• Although this falls more in the category of conspiracy theory than propaganda, I wish to make a record of it here because of the obvious inevitability that Zelensky is no longer useful and likely will be removed before year's end. Gonzalo Lira: Zelensky Is About To Be Assassinated By The Americans. RobS^Z+ 13:24, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

Supporting evidence:

• CIA: "both countries are heading towards their 1917 moments", July 22;
• GRU: Law enforcement collapsed in Ukraine, July 19.

RobS^Z+ 13:41, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

TFI Global: The clock starts ticking on Zelensky, July 23. RobS^Z+ 14:44, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

How do we know Russia would not be responsible for assassinating Zelensky (as Gonzalo Lira said)? Wall Street Journal: "Putin is leery of doing anything that would finally break the long spell of Western stupidity that has served him so well." RobS^Z+ 14:51, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

Alexander Mercouris: "the last couple of hours in the Ukrainian conflict, and in the global conflict connected to it, have been packed with news and may, in hindsight, come to be seen as a moment when the balance started to shift, and when the Western Powers very grudgingly, very quietly, started to retreat from some of the absolutist positions they have been taking over the course of this crisis." RobS^Z+ 16:44, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

• Ukrainian/US white phosphorus attack on the civilian population of Donetsk, a non-military target July 23. This is essentially a terror attack on the civilian population of Donetsk by the United States. RobS^Z+ 19:27, July 23, 2022 (EDT)
• The truth about HIMARs, the 'gamechanger' for the war Ukraine has supposedly been winning all along. RobS^Z+ 00:47, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
• ALL MAINSTREAM ‘NEWS’-MEDIA IN U.S. ARE PROPAGANDA-AGENCIES. RobS^Z+ 16:52, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
• NPR Turns Against Ukraine!. "If the United States doesn't off Zelensky, the nazis in his own country will." RobS^Z+ 18:05, July 24, 2022 (EDT)
• In "democratic" Ukraine, since opposition has been outlawed, people seem a little upset about inflation, war, and the parliament voting themselves a pay raise (with U.S. money, or course). Warning: Language (although we've discussed how foul language is somewhat culturally acceptable in Russian, Russians are a bit more worldly and understand it may not be so in other cultures, but Ukrainians tend to just let loose on whoever is listening). Also, they're a bit upset that nobody in the Ukrainian political establish seems to have a family serving at the front. [32][33][34][35] RobS^Z+ 21:05, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
• WESTERN LIBERALS ACT AS THE THOUGHT POLICE OF AMERICAN IMPERIALISM WHEN IT COMES TO THE WAR IN UKRAINE. RobS^Z+ 13:22, July 26, 2022 (EDT)
• COMBAT ON CONTACT LINE AGAINST NATO NAZI FORCES. RobS^Z+ 04:01, July 27, 2022 (EDT)
• Time to Move to Russia. RobS^Z+ 13:00, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

• Must see: George Eliason: ZELENSKY THOUSANDS OF UKRAINIANS DISAPPEARED AND MURDERED. RobS^Z+ 14:09, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

• 25 Rules of disinformation — This is what you’re up against. RobS^Z+ 14:09, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

• Maxim Grigoriev finds an ex-Ukrainian library in Donbass. RobS^Z+ 21:05, August 2, 2022 (EDT)

• Film crew making fake, staged war footage for Ukrainian propaganda. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 01:03, August 13, 2022 (EDT)

UNHCR report

The UNHCR report on Ukrainian refugees sheds some light on the reason for Ukrainian Human Rights Ombudsman Ludmila Denisova's firing. In addition to her manufactured stories of Russian rapes, the stated reason for her firing was that she claimed back in May 300,000 Ukrainians were essentially kidnaped and deported to Russia. The United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees now states that the big bad bogeyman Russia is indeed the preferred site for Ukrainian refugees to flee to, to escape the civil war launched by the Kyiv regime against its own civilians.

Russia has accepted almost 2 million Ukrainian refugees since the February incursion, 700,000 more than has been falsely reported in the West that Poland is the biggest recipient. Denisova evidently was trying to cover up and explain the statistical discrepancy in false Western propaganda reports that originate in Kyiv. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 21:14, August 9, 2022 (EDT)

Presumably, more Ukrainians have fled to Russia since May. Right now, there are reports of long columns of civilian vehicles fleeing the Kharkov, Zaporozyhe, and Nikolaev districts to Russian-held territory - this, after Zelensky ordered all Ukrainian civilians to leave Donbas.

Now, ask yourself, Why would all civilians be ordered to leave the Donbas? The answer is simple, and in this regard, we see again where NATO/Ukraine has adopted Stalinist tactics: Anyone later found to have been behind enemy lines will be deemed a traitor and collaborator and subject to judicial punishment. In this particular case (the order probably came from Washinton & NATO for Zelensky to carry out), Ukrainian citizens uniquely have experience with such decrees, and made the conscious choice to flee the totalitarian West for hope, protection, and freedom in Russia. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 21:25, August 9, 2022 (EDT)

Additionally, in recent weeks Putin has offered any person holding a Ukrainian passport expeditated Russian citizenship (Zelensky's extermination decree came after Putin's decree as a response). This is a better deal than anything offered in the West. People from every region of Ukraine now are fleeing east to escape the crumbling fascist regime and SBU punitive reprisals and mass arrests. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 06:41, August 10, 2022 (EDT)

So we have at least two Stalinist tactics being employed by NATO/Ukraine in Ukraine where they were first employed 70-odd years ago: (1) shooting soldiers who attempt to retreat; (2) punishing civilians in occupied territory who were not members of an organized resistance group. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 07:34, August 10, 2022 (EDT)

<background>This scene shows the relationship in Belarus between the partisan resistance movement and civilians in German occupied territory. The "police" are German collaborators. The reference to "white" refers to the White Army monarchists who opposed the Red Army in the Russian civil war. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 07:54, August 10, 2022 (EDT)

Why six feet?

The origin of the six-feet away number for social distancing? A high school student's science project. Here is the New York Times: "Fourteen years ago, two federal government doctors, Richard Hatchett and Carter Mecher, met with a colleague at a burger joint in suburban Washington for a final review of a proposal they knew would be treated like a piñata: telling Americans to stay home from work and school the next time the country was hit by a deadly pandemic...Dr. Glass’s daughter Laura, then 14, had done a class project in which she built a model of social networks at her Albuquerque high school."[36] Does this sound like garbage-in, garbarge-out? Not if you reconstruct your daughter's science project on a supercomputer, as Dr. Glass did. Why isn't she a feminist icon?

In short, a politically-motivated group came up these rules long before anyone ever heard of covid. Debroah Birxis quite a piece of work too. "Two week to flatten the curve," was always a fraud. From the beginning, she wanted to shut down the country for a long as possible, according to her recently published memoir. PeterKa (talk) 19:23, July 18, 2022 (EDT)

This is an interesting comment. Additionally, the purpose of why lockdowns were instituted is now being rewritten. People now say it was to stop the spread of the disease, but that is not what was initially stated. The original purpose was to prevent hospitals from being overwhelmed. There was an assumption that everyone would eventually get the disease, but first responders would be most vulnerable. Recall the Hope ship parked off of Los Angelas, or Samaritan's Purse (Franklin Graham's group) set up in Central Park. Neither ever saw any patients. Then we have the oddity, while the narrative shifted for lockdowns, denying that herd immunity would work -whereas the whole purpose of lockdowns was to buy time for herd immunity to develop. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 06:57, August 10, 2022 (EDT)

Putin is winning

• EU suffers high inflation from lack of Russian gas , WION News

• Economic problems in Europe

• Europe EXPLODING as Mass Uprisings SURGE Across Continent.

• Ukrainian officials accused of treason as Russian troops step up attacks, CBS News

Europe currently has big problems with the Italian economy and it has many countries with a lot of inflation. And this is just the beginning. Wait until winter comes and Europe likely have gas supply problems. Conservative (talk) 20:06, July 18, 2022 (EDT)

The whole EU leadership, heads of state, and NATO have got to go. RobS^Z+ 13:10, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

And the German Green party. RobS^Z+ 13:13, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

Not really; it 's no different than Kosovo being forcibly separated from Serbia by NATO. Or East Germany being merged with West Germany, the Crimea with the Russian Federation. RobS^Z+ 23:22, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

There are some crucial lessens to be learned here as the sunsets on American global leadership:

• Some nations have thousands of years of history (like China, India, and Russia), and human beings being what they are with their flaws, have had ups and downs. Because America was a relatively young and naive country with a clean slate, it was trusted with global leadership after 1945.
• The largest land mass country on the planet after 1000 years probably knows something about ground warfare.

RobS^Z+ 23:34, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

Ukraine needs to start winning in a big way before winter or they could lose the Dobansk permanently (or for a very long time) due the Russians solidifying their positions (digging in). The Biden admininstration is either slow walking greater arms to Ukraine due to caution and/or bureaucratic slowness (or perhaps for logistical or training reasons) or because it wants to let Russia take Dobansk and then try to maintain a frozen conflict negotiated via a peace deal. With that being said, when you put your trust in Biden and/or rely on him, it is a risky proposition. Conservative (talk) 23:41, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

The war was lost by Ukraine months ago. The only thing continuing the fighting is the United States while it risks nuclear escalation. RobS^Z+ 23:44, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

Wars and battles are often won before they start.

"He will win who, prepared himself, waits to take the enemy unprepared.. The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand.. One who speaks deferentially but increases his preparations will advance. One who speaks belligerently and advances hastily will retreat." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War Conservative (talk) 23:53, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

Ukraine can't start fighting in a meaningful way - all it's NATO-trained best troops over the past 8 years are dead. It is fighting now with 60 year old men, women, and locals, and the Ukrainian Ministry of Interior neo-Nazi battalions (like the reconstituted Azov Battalion, the Aidar Battalion, Kraken forces, Right Sektor, and others). The Russians are specifically targeting the Ministry of Interior Nazi groups for demilitarization, denazification, and liquidation, while encouraging what is left of AFU conscripts to peacefully surrender without being executed by the Ministry if Interior Nazi units (SBU) for desertion. RobS^Z+ 23:56, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

A big scandal has erupted in Kyiv over the past week, since UNHCR accused Ukraine of war crimes and 40 nations have signed unto an investigation at the Hague. Zelensky fired the head of the Ukrainian Gestapo and the chief prosecutor. My guess is by sometime after mid-August when all of the Donetsk Republic territory is liberated (and possibly portions of Kharkiv), Putin (as the Serb president stated) maybe propose a ceasefire. Zelensky will flee to Italy or Miami, Gen. Zalushny will be interim leader, and China will sign unto the Denazification War Crimes Tribunal, as well as possibly the investigation into US biolabs. This is one such scenario for the remainder of this year. RobS^Z+ 00:08, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Alternative scenario: An attack on the Kerch Strait Bridge with HIMARs before the above objectives are completed will immediately widen the scope of the war, which is exactly what Ukraine wants to bring the US into the war. RobS^Z+ 05:04, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

African migrants in Europe are protesting the racist treatment white privileged Ukrainian refugees are receiving. Of course, MSM is not reporting it, but RT is. This is why Biden didn't get any support from Africa & Asia in his sanctions war, and why the global south supports Russia. RobS^Z+ 00:14, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Update: on the Ukrainian Gestapo scandal from a source sympathetic to Ukraine. [37] RobS^Z+ 00:39, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Leaving aside a discussion of Ukrainian human rights violations and war crimes, for now, apparently the firings are being related to the sale of French made CEASAR self-propelled artillery to the Donestk Republic for $120,000; the sale of HIMARs to the Russian forces for $800,000; and the sale of Javelins, NLAWs, Panzerfausts, and Swedish anti-tank munitions to Islamic State jihadis for $15,000 to $30,000 a piece. All this is well known in Ukraine; however, unlike most Western MSM news that uses Ukrainian government media sources (there are no independent sources) verbatim, these particular stories are not being reported in the West. RobS^Z+ 02:45, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

USA political predictions: July 19,2022 update on the upcoming 2022 midterm elections in the USA

In the United States, the Republican Party is associated with the color red. In the United States, a red wave election is an election where there is a surge of voters supporting Republican candidates which results in an unusually high number being elected to office.

Previously, I wrote the essay: A big red wave is rolling towards the 2022 midterm elections in the USA

Objectivity is important and the future is hard to predict so its always worth taking at both/all sides of a political argument. In addition, political predictions made in the past should be reexamined in light of the most recent developments.

Data pointing a red wave election for the Republicans in 2022

Joe Biden's job approval is under water according to the Real Clear Politics average of all the polls relating to this matter. Also, the USA economy is weak too due to high inflation and the Democrats are the party that control all three branches of government at the national level. In addition, polls of the "most likely voters" are the most accurate, but they are more expensive for pollsters to do. July 15, 2022 report: "The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, if the elections for Congress were held today, 47% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for the Republican candidate, while 39% would vote for the Democrat. Just four percent (5%) would vote for some other candidate, but another eight percent (8%) are not sure."[38] Also, the Real Clear Politics average for the all the polls concerning the Congressional generic vote for Republicans vs. Democrats gives the Republicans about a couple point advantage on 7-19-2022.[39] Conservative (talk) 17:01, July 19, 2022 (EDT)

The case for the Democrats not being doomed in the 2022 midterm elections

The Hill just published the article Have you considered that the Democrats aren’t actually doomed?.

Republicans need to begin burning their Ukrainian flags now, either in public or in the backyard. RobS^Z+ 00:30, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Many younger conservatives would gladly do so, but not before burning the flags of the countries which they believe benefit the most from Establishment policies: Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UK.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:13, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

While contrary to popular belief Israel and the UK don’t “control” our politicians (Saudi Arabia is a different story), they along with Saudi Arabia are so intertwined with the Establishment’s foreign policy that many younger conservatives (and populists in general) don’t believe it’s possible to achieve “America First” without completely revising our relations with those three countries. I definitely agree with them on Saudi Arabia, but I’m not so sure on Israel and the UK.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:17, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

The problem is NATO/WEF fascism. RobS^Z+ 18:41, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

NATO/WEF tyranny wouldn’t exist without American imperialism. Only hard isolationism and rejection of the Saudi lobby will put a stop to this.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:58, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

De-dollarization

• De-dollarization in full swing. It was a big mistake seizing Russian banking assets, cause nobody trusts the U.S.-controlled global banking network anymore. RobS^Z+ 01:13, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

This will have longterm cost-of-living effects on Americans; the dollar now is respected on equal footing with the Ukrainian hryvnia and others as a credible asset or store of value. RobS^Z+ 01:17, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Dollar hegemony had a pretty racist origin post-1945 anyway, Both mother and daughter working for the Yankee dollar. RobS^Z+ 01:25, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

And it was getting both mother and daughter working for the Yankee dollar that caused the Cuban Revolution 15 years later. RobS^Z+ 11:23, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Dollar hegemony is nothing but a mirage. The real thing vanished about 50 years ago; all that’s left is the illegal petrodollar scheme which has basically enslaved our entire financial system to the House of Saud. As I’ve stated before, Nixon should’ve been impeached for allowing this to happen, but too bad Congress was too fixated on Watergate to even acknowledge what was easily a far more serious matter.--Geopolitician (talk) 16:07, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Saudi Arabia is buying and selling Russian oil - and they're not doing it in dollars. That's why they told Biden to go to hell. This is the end of the petrodollar system & the SWIFT network dominence. RobS^Z+ 18:38, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Good. The whole system is unconstitutional to begin with. Let it die, and our financial system will be sovereign once again. As for Saudi Arabia, it will one day pay for its crimes. It is realigning with China, and it will be one of China’s main allies in the next global conflict. And when the world turns on China, the Saudis will face the same wrath.--Geopolitician (talk) 21:03, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Biden has cancer, allegedly

Indications are that we don't need the 25th Amendment or impeachment. Biden can resign for health reasons. This explains much of the recent activity, like Jill's bungling speech the other day explaining Biden's failures. Looks like the decision has been made for Biden to bow out and install Kamala in the near future.

Nothing will change. It will be the same idiots running the show and making the decisions. Only Kamala doesn't have the Washington experience to veto some of the idiot decisions coming down the pike that Biden had.

Added bonus: Attacks on Kamala can be deemed racist with the approaching Midterms. RobS^Z+ 16:41, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Next question: Who to fill the open VP spot? RobS^Z+ 16:53, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Terminating all the 2024 speculation and Hunter Biden stuff evidently rose to the top of the DNC decision making politburo. RobS^Z+ 16:56, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Biden humiliated in Massachusetts

Biden get humiliated during his trip in Massachusetts, One of most blue state in country that voted for him by over 65%, with chanting F Biden and lets go brandon to his caravan.

Watch: Biden greeted with Let’s go Brandon, middle fingers in Somerset --Alex Kosh (talk) 23:04, July 20, 2022 (EDT)

Man wearing seat belts in a car with air bags dies in a car crash. Covid-19 vaccinated person getting Covid, etc.

Why bother reporting on individual people getting Covid-19 without saying the purpose of the vaccine is to reduce the risk of getting Covid-19 and reduce the odds of hospitalization/death. There is a difference between mitigation and total prevention.

What's next? The reporting of a man wearing seat belts in a car with air bags dying in a car crash? Conservative (talk) 13:08, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

According to Dr. Malone, covid vaccine destroys your immune system. RobS^Z+ 13:11, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

So what. That is an appeal to authority and not a big data set with well-designed studies. Conservative (talk) 13:13, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Trust the science, not the media, Big Tech censorship, and the government (CDC, WHO, etc.).

Are the Amish down for censorship of doctors, science news, and for vaccine mandates? RobS^Z+ 13:16, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

The CDC is being run like Wikipedia these days - they don't like the science so they change the definition of 'vaccine' in the middle of a pandemic. RobS^Z+ 13:19, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Bottomline: we will need a Pandemic of the vaccinated page, cause that will become a big issue in coming weeks and months (in addition to inflation, energy, war, etc.). RobS^Z+ 13:27, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

People don't need the CDC to look at ways to help prevent and mitigate Covid-19. The Israelis, Tawainese and Japanse are doing a much better job using vaccines and other preventative health measures than the Americans when it comes to Covid-19 and we can look at their data (Japanese have a healthier diet and weight management than the USA for example). Far fewer people are dying in Taiwan/Japan/Israel per capita than in the USA.[40] Conservative (talk) 16:34, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Covid is making a reappearance, and this time it is not among the unvaxxed. RobS^Z+ 18:39, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

The unvaxxed have natural herd immunity; the vaxxed weakened or destroyed their own immunity. RobS^Z+ 18:45, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

My immunity is fine and so is the immunity of countless medical doctors who have been vaccinated. Conservative (talk) 23:19, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

By the way, hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated Americans didn't achieve a long period of natural immunity from Covid-19 because they died from Covid. Conservative (talk) 23:22, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

Shanghai just got off a two month lockdown, so there may an attempt to reimpose lockdowns here shortly. RobS^Z+ 23:35, July 21, 2022 (EDT)

In retrospect, I thought about it more and America made the mistake of politicizing Covid-19. As a result, the left side of the political aisle prevented Vladimir Zelenko's coronavirus treatment from becoming prevalent. And the right side of the aisle rejected some decent Covid-19 mitigation efforts too. And then their were cultural issues too. Like the British Medical Journal points out that vegetarians/pescatarian diets are helpful coronavirus mitigation methods.[41] And before the pandemic and during the pandemic the public health officials should have told Americans to slim down because overweight people are more like to get various diseases and also get Covid-19 and die of it. Conservative (talk) 02:23, July 22, 2022 (EDT)

• French left and right-wing populist parties unite to crush Macron’s vaccine travel mandate, Revolver News. RobS^Z+ 12:31, July 22, 2022 (EDT)
• New England Journal of Medicine: Unvaccinated COVID Patients Are Contagious for LESS Time Than those Vaxed or Boosted.

Isn't this the exact opposite of the claims made at the time of vaccine mandates? the vaccinated are now more of a threat to public health and safety than the unvaccinated. RobS^Z+ 20:31, July 22, 2022 (EDT)

Data that the Covid-19 unvaccinated people who have not got Covid-19 are less likely to get Covid-19? Conservative (talk)

Duration of Shedding of Culturable Virus in SARS-CoV-2 Omicron (BA.1) Infection, New England Journal of Medicine: "Our results should be interpreted within the context of a small sample size, which limits precision, and the possibility of residual confounding in comparisons according to variant, vaccination status, and the time period of infection. Although culture positivity has been proposed as a possible proxy for infectiousness, additional studies are needed to correlate viral-culture positivity with confirmed transmission in order to inform isolation periods. Our data suggest that some persons who are infected with the omicron and delta SARS-CoV-2 variants shed culturable virus more than 5 days after symptom onset or an initial positive test." Conservative (talk) 01:22, July 23, 2022 (EDT)

Boosters Now PROMOTE Covid Deaths in Europe. RobS^Z+ 20:30, July 24, 2022 (EDT)

2024 will be won by an anti-war candidate

I was prompted to post this after I saw this tweet. I couldn't agree more with it.

To expand upon this premise, let me be clear. In 2024, if the GOP candidate nominates somebody who either (a) supports Biden's policies towards China, Iran, and Russia; or (b) criticizes those policies as being "too weak"; that candidate will lose. This applies to anybody who runs, even if that anybody is Trump or DeSantis.

If the GOP candidate wants to win, (s)he must attack Biden for being a warmonger and only for being a warmonger. Anything other than that is a losing strategy, because the American people have had it up to their scalps with political arguments that are designed to justify warmongering, especially those which are constructed to sound populist in order to deceive low-info voters. They don't want a Mike Pompeo type, they want a Rand Paul type.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:07, July 24, 2022 (EDT)

And what's to stop another international Deep State conspiracy (including such actors as MI6, Boris Johnson, Richard Dearlove, and Ukraine) again against any candidate questioning NATO actions or purpose? No one has been held to account for the last CIA/foreign actors meddling in American democracy. RobS^Z+ 16:26, July 24, 2022 (EDT)

When Obama won Iowa in 2008, nobody thought of him as the anti-war candidate. He was black and he wasn't Hillary. PeterKa (talk) 23:02, July 25, 2022 (EDT)

Trump is the most prominent anti-war candidate.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:10, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

I wouldn't say that just yet, because we don't know who else is running. There are definitely others who make Trump look like a hawk by comparison, most notably Rand Paul and Tulsi Gabbard.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:40, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Murdoch dumps Trump for DeSantis

Rupert Murdoch, who owns Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and New York Post, has dumped Donald Trump for Florida governor Ron DeSantis. See "Why Rupert Murdoch Is Finally Done with Donald Trump." I'd say Trump is now too old and too focused on 2020 to be an effective president. If he ran in 2024, he'd 82 at the end of his term. PeterKa (talk) 22:45, July 25, 2022 (EDT)

Murdoch's media will lose its core audience if he strays from Trump. DeSantis is no Trump, and is being pushed by liberals merely to try to block Trump. Liberals would turn against DeSantis just as they did against John McCain in 2008, if DeSantis were ever nominated.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:12, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Andy, do you think it's high time for us to give DeSantis the Ted Cruz treatment? Where we overhaul his article to portray him as a total fraud and even create a "DeSantisites" article to describe his supporters? I'll be glad to give that a start. I've been onto him for a while now but so far the other mods have been blocking me from doing it. What do you say?--Geopolitician (talk) 13:05, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Andy, you say that Desantis is no Trump. But what exactly is DeSantis? There is a rumor that Trump has a secret agreement to pick DeSantis as his running mate. Conservative (talk) 09:36, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

I'm not Andy, but I'll respond to the question anyway. Ron DeSantis is Ted Cruz 2.0. A total fraud who is putting on an elaborate act to dupe the GOP base into proclaiming him a "Conservative Messiah" who can do no wrong, in hopes that will get him elected and allow him to run the country as the third term of George W. Bush. However DeSantis is a far greater threat to Trump than Cruz ever was. Unlike Cruz, DeSantis has a record of "doing" instead of "talking," since after all he's a Governor and not a Senator. So if Trump tries to play the "do-nothing career politician" card (against DeSantis), it will backfire and cause him to lose votes this time around.--Geopolitician (talk) 12:59, July 26, 2022 (EDT)

Geez, if we could only get you to show such enthusiasm about exposing Democrat fraudsters.... RobS^Z+ 04:00, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Why should I focus on exposing people who have already been exposed?--Geopolitician (talk) 12:07, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Oh, maybe because they keep passing themselves off as decent, honest people and keep winning elections. RobS^Z+ 14:36, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

They all do that. Democrats, RINOs, they all do that. But tell me, which one of those people are more likely to fool conservatives with their acts?--Geopolitician (talk) 22:50, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

The way you work, it's as if you're trying to get a job with the FBI. You turn a blind eye to Democrat abuses which are 10 times worse than any Republican, but want to jump any Republican and split hairs over the most minor details. RobS^Z+ 14:40, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Let's pretend for a moment that we're part of a team of snake hunters. Our task is to catch all of the snakes sneaking around an overgrown grassy lot. The snakes come in two colors, blue and red. Right now nearly everybody on the team is focusing on getting the blue snakes, while the red snakes are left mostly untouched. A few red snakes have been caught here and there, but most of them continue to roam free as their blue counterparts are being caught by the bushel. In this situation, the appropriate response would be to allow me and several others to break away and start focusing on gathering the red snakes while the rest of you finish off what remains of the blue snakes. That way we get the whole job done, not just half of it.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:50, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Let's take Ted Cruz, for example. He has redeeming qualities, such as a willingness to stand up for election integrity (up to minutes before the false flag J6 event). But you don't mention that. RobS^Z+ 14:54, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

I used to be an ardent defender of him here. No more, because of both his hawkish positions on foreign policy and his undeniable links to many of the people who sabotaged the Trump administration.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:54, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

I don't pretend to be a DeSantis expert, but didn't he: 1) Go after Disney. 2) Put in a law to stop LGBTQ groomers/advocates of promiscuity/etc. 3) Audit university professors and college students to help diversity of thought rather than liberal/leftist indoctrination in universities 4) Push for children not to have to wear masks 4) Keep Florida's no state personal income tax and keep it business-friendly so people continue to flock to Florida 5) Keep Florida's pro-gun rights culture. 6) Governor Ron DeSantis Takes Additional Actions to Protect Floridians from Biden’s Border Crisis 7) Gov. DeSantis signs ‘largest expansion of school choice in the history of the state’

About the only complaint I have with Desantis is that he should open school choice wider. The money should go to the students and not the schools so the students could go to the school of their parent's/their choice or apply it to homeschooling costs.

What am I missing? Conservative (talk) 15:02, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

DeSantis:

• has been ungrateful and disloyal to Trump, after Trump got DeSantis elected;
• failed to lead on the pro-life issue, and instead seemed to obstruct some of it;
• supports a Con Con to allow Leftists to rewrite the U.S. Constitution;
• cannot be Trump's VP because both are from the same state (and Trump dislikes him now anyway);
• didn't really open up hydroxychloroquine use in his state, which would have save many there from Covid-19;
• is only being puffed by Never-Trumpers who want an alternative to Trump; and
• is probably unelectable as president for a variety of reasons, not all his fault, but this is why liberals puff him up.

Other than the above, DeSantis is superb!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:40, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Good start for a list of things wrong with DeSantis, Andy. Allow me to add three more points:

• He is a hawk on foreign policy, and that alone would make him unelectable.
• If he runs he will probably be bankrolled by Elon Musk, a barely-in-the-closet national socialist who wants America to be more like Communist China in terms of governance.
• He's already demonstrated that he's willing to abuse his bully pulpit in order to satisfy foreign lobbies, as seen in the Ben & Jerry's incident.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:05, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Where does De Santis stand on election fraud and FBI interference in elections, cause those are the only two issues that matter as of now. RobS^Z+ 02:12, July 28, 2022 (EDT)

Trump-Russia occurred because the FBI had failed in its machinations to get Hillary elected, so Robert Mueller was appointed to cover up FBI lawbreaking; in 2020, the FBI was successful in getting their preferred candidate elected - so they are getting better at it. This is what needs to be the focus. If Trump drops dead before 2024 and De Santis gets nominated, the FBI won't need your help doing a hit job on De Santis. RobS^Z+ 02:21, July 28, 2022 (EDT)

Do you expect the FBI to use any of the above talking points listed above by Andy and I?--Geopolitician (talk) 14:00, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

I expect you to continue dutifully carrying out leftist talking points. RobS^Z+ 14:12, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

Which one of the above points made by either Andy or myself are leftist talking points?--Geopolitician (talk) 22:19, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate the info. I agree with a number of your points, but I don't think "cannot be Trump's VP because both are from the same state" is correct based on what I read somewhere, but it is a moot point because I doubt Trump will pick DeSantis.

Trump is favored to GOP primary for the next presidential race. The GOP establishment knows that if Trump is not picked, they will have a divided party.

Also, if elected, it appears as if Trump will fire thousands of federal employees and replace them with people who agree with his agenda,[42][43] so I want Trump to win the GOP primary.

The Democrats are running the country badly. Biden is crooked and mentally not fit to be president. The Democrats have a weak candidate bench. And the Democrats are facing strong economic headwinds (inflation and risk of recession), so I think Trump will win in 2024.

Lastly, according to actuarial tables, Biden has a 5% chance of dying next year and a 5% chance of dying next year. So maybe Biden will pass away and the ultra-woke, incompetent and deeply unpopular Kamala Harris will become president. That would make the next president be a Republican. Conservative (talk) 20:22, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

All this is for naught if we don't pay attention to the main issue: The FBI has interfered in the last two presidential elections. And it's interfering again right now, with another investigation into Trump. RobS^Z+ 20:34, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

I left out two important points. 1) I think the GOP will win the House and possibly the Senate, so there is going to be a lot of investigations that I hope will hurt: Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, crooked Democrats, crooked federal employees and maybe even some Democrat operatives who engage in election fraud. 2) The GOP has tightened up election laws in many areas of the USA plus installed many pro-Trump election people to oversee elections as a part of Steve Bannon's precinct-level strategy. Conservative (talk) 20:46, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

The problems run much deeper than you can imagine: we know electing a president who tries to fire the FBI director doesn't work.

Trump recently said he'd fire 50,000 federal employees; that in fact is what got Richard Nixon railroaded out of town when he asked for everyone in the Executive Branch's resignation so he could appoint his own people after his unprecedented 62% landslide re-election. RobS^Z+ 20:52, July 27, 2022 (EDT)

Reading the excellent points above reminded me of the Pardon Power-related issue: has DeSantis even spoken against the Mueller-type political prosecutions??? That disqualifies him if he's not speaking out against that abuse of power.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:21, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

DeSantis proposed an Amendment to kill the Mueller probe after 6 months; [44] it was DeSantis service on several committees along with Matt Gaetz, Trey Gowdy and others looking into FBI abuse that brought him the publicity to run for governor. RobS^Z+ 18:36, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

As to election fraud, Florida, which is I think the third most populous state, finished counting ballots before sunrise; whereas Nevada which is probably in the bottom 5 least populous took close to a month. RobS^Z+ 18:41, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

Racist Biden admin to finish Trump's border wall

[45] RobS^Z+ 17:47, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

I guess Kamala Harris was right "Kamala Harris confronts Joe Biden about his record on busing, school desegregation."

It'll be cute...

a month from now when we wake up and discover we are at war with Russia and China simultaneously, after Air Force 2 gets shot down with Pelosi and Pompeo on board and the USS Ronald Reagan is destroyed by a hypersonic missile. What do we do then? Remove Biden and put Kamala in charge? We already pretty much shot our wad in Ukraine as far as stockpiles go. RobS^Z+ 21:12, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

Wikipedia change recession definition

Liberal bias website Wikipedia change definition of Recession to save Biden agenda and then lock the page for editing

Wikipedia Changes Definition of ‘Recession,’ Locks Page from Editing --Alex Kosh (talk) 22:04, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

Due to the economy, Joe Biden is toast politically and the Democrats are in deep trouble. This Orwellian hail Mary pass isn't going to make a lick of difference. Conservative (talk) 20:11, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Colonel Macgregor warns that Taiwan is to China what Ukraine is to Russia (in other words, we need to leave Taiwan alone)

This is a must-watch.--Geopolitician (talk) 22:22, July 29, 2022 (EDT)

It's just business as usual. See "Taiwanese shrug off Beijing’s Pelosi talk." If the Chicoms make trouble, a strike group led by the USS Ronald Reagan, a Nimitz-class nuclear-powered supercarrier, is on the way. PeterKa (talk) 18:24, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Supercarriers cannot detect hypersonic missiles and are defenseless. RobS^Z+ 18:55, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

In this sense, John McCain was right in 2000 in a debate with GW Bush - Supercarriers are outdated and just a boondoggle for then-GOP Majority Leader Trent Lott's state for construction. We've been living this myth that Supercarriers are an invincible first line of attack or defense for more than 20 years already. RobS^Z+ 19:00, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

This is just a hail Mary pass by Nancy Pelosi to lower the height of the GOP red wave in the midterm elections.

Behind the scenes, I doubt the sexist, Chinese, communist leaders in mainland China take Nancy Pelosi seriously. They know she is about to lose her Speaker of the House position. Conservative (talk) 19:02, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

You need to watch what China does rather than the latest threats. Mao Zedong shelled Jinmen Island several times a week for years. The island was long considered Asia's most dangerous flashpoint. As "Quemoy and Matsu," it played a role in the 1960 U.S. presidential debate between Nixon and Kennedy. A ferry link between Jinmen and the city of Xiamen was established in 2001. China agreed to supply Jinmen with water a few months back. Does that sound like they are building up to an invasion? China focuses its Orwellian "two-minutes hate" on Taiwan. Military strategy is on a separate track than propaganda.

After what happened to the Moskva, every ship needs to watch out for missiles. China has just launched a third carrier. I don't think we can hold Trent Lott responsible for that one. Hypersonic missiles don't really change anything. They generate more heat and can be detected sooner. Carrier captians have stated that they would send up a nuke if a hypersonic was coming in. All the same, China has a staggering number of missiles. Taiwan has offered Spratley Island as a base, which I think would be a better solution. PeterKa (talk) 19:34, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

The PLA doctrine of unrestricted warfare. They have been waiting for years to take advantage of an opportunity of a strategic mistake, like sending Pelosi and a Supercarrier to Taiwan. The U.S. has no other option after the loss of a Supercarrier, other than nuclear, which it cannot win.

Pelosi's trip is bi-partisan; it was done at the request of Blinken and Sullivan, basically as a distraction to the disastrous war in Ukraine. (Somehow, Blinken and Sullivan think Pelosi's trip will be a much needed victory). We have a better than 50% chance of being at war with both Russia and China by the end of the week. RobS^Z+ 19:41, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

The 55 ship USS Ronald Reagan task force is no match for the 700 ship PLA Navy (which includes the Maritime Militia disguised as commercial fishing boats), the largest navy on the planet. When the carrier is hit, it'll be over in a few seconds, and the rest will scatter, providing a very opportune time for an assault on Taiwan. The fact that both Republicans and Democrats are on board for war with Russia and China, provides a good excuse for China to just 'nuke em all and let God sort em out'. RobS^Z+ 19:49, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

That was always the plan. The neocons and neolibs want China, Russia, and Iran destroyed because they stand in the way of the continued existence of a unipolar world order. That’s all this has been about. Every other reason they give is an excuse at best and a lie at worst.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:13, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

The problem is, U.S./NATO military doctrine today is built on information, electronic, disinformation and propaganda warfare (with nukes being the first line or last line of 'defense'). But we still live in the era of 'industrial warfare', with key materials for aircraft and microchips that only come from Russia or China. Russia knows this. China knows this. Some people in the U.S. MIC know this, but they are minority voices drowned out by techies. The techies think wars can be won by disinformation and propaganda, without making the effort in military hardware, as the Ukraine war is proving them wrong, and ultimately shown to be a colossal strategic mistake decades in the making. RobS^Z+ 20:25, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

US/NATO thought it could commit horrific crimes against humanity, like the Heavenly Hundred and Odessa Trade Unions House massacre, and Big Tech and MSM would just bury it. Putin told us when he announced the operability of hypersonics there would be hell to pay. RobS^Z+ 21:11, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Cool story, Rob. You should probably try & work it into your weird fan fiction. Still think it's crying out for a moon base, though. ConwayIII (talk) 20:02, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

(ec) As to hypersonic missile detection, technology has not yet been developed to detect a missile travelling at 5 times the speed of sound.^fn1 For two reasons: one, the U.S. has yet to develop its own hypersonics that could be used to develop a radar system; secondly, they've only been used about 3 or 4 times so far in real combat conditions.

Given the distance a hypersonic would travel to knock out carrier, it's probably no more than 2 minutes flight time. And it would take a hypersonic to catch a hypersonic anyway.

A comparison could be made to U.S. bomber pilots travelling at 250 miles per hour in late WWII when they first saw the ME-262 traveling at 650 mph. It was very demoralizing, and they were afraid to go up again. RobS^Z+ 20:10, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

fn1: Now, someone will say, 'How can we detect the Space Shuttle traveling at 56,000 mph in space?'. When you scale down the New Mexico Phase Array Radar, which would takes years and years and billions, and figure out how to set it on the deck of an aircraft carrier, maybe you have hope. But that project also competes for funding with a more pressing issue right now: Developing radar and defense system against drone swarm attacks.

The Chinese economy is weak right now - particularly the real estate sector. At this time, I doubt the Chinese would go to war with one of the biggest customers (namely, the USA) in terms of their mercantilism foreign trade policy. Conservative (talk) 20:08, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Healthy economies tend to not want to upset the status quo. All wars stem from economic problems and circumstances; ideology is just a cover to get the public to support what is too complicated to explain in economic terms.

Helen of Troy had the face that "launched a thousands [war] ships", i.e. a sex scandal involving the Athenian king's wife was blamed for starting a 10 year long war with Troy. Wherein reality, it was economic competition in the ship building industry and international trade that caused the war. RobS^Z+ 15:49, August 2, 2022 (EDT)

It looks like Taiwan is destined to become yet another proxy of the Deep State.--Geopolitician (talk) 20:16, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

It's been that since 1949. More accurately, it looks like the US is about to lose a proxy. RobS^Z+ 22:48, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

If Friedman’s The Next 100 Years is anything to go by, the most important Deep State proxies are Japan, Poland, and Turkey. And if Mike Pompeo’s speech at the Hudson Institute is anything to go by, Israel, Taiwan, and Ukraine are the “B Team” of Deep State proxies.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:29, August 1, 2022 (EDT)

• The Biden administration is a bunch of amateurs. Pelosi should go to Taiwan in secret and appear by surprise at a public event in Taipei, the way Israeli politicians do. See "Newt Gingrich: Pelosi should tell Biden officials to 'shut up' about Taiwan visit." Kevin McCarthy can one-up her by going to Jinmen or Spratley.

Update What do you know? It was boob bait for the yahoos all along. See "Taiwan not included in US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's itinerary announcement." The only American political figure who objected to the proposed trip was General Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs. Milley has been shilling for China for while. This is a guy who has sold out, America's Gerhard Schröder. PeterKa (talk) 08:39, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Blinken & Sullivan were looking for a W after a string of L's in Ukraine, and picked up another L - this time a big one. It displays America's weakness on the world stage not just in Europe. If I were Germany, I'd get the hell out of NATO, lickity split. RobS^Z+ 12:29, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

This whole episode was designed as a provocation to make America look tuff (like the recent blockade of Kaliningrad), the U.S. backed down. Net result is a weakening of America's position in the Far East. South Korea and Japan listen to American rhetoric, and watch American actions, and say 'WTF?' And none of this had to happen. RobS^Z+ 13:37, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

China deploys DF-21 hypersonic anti-ship missiles to destroy US aircraft carriers. RobS^Z+ 14:04, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Once again, it's the Uniparty at work. It's the sequel to a bad movie. All Putin demanded was a commitment by Ukraine to not join NATO; Biden Stoltenberg, and Macron all said Ukraine was free to chose its own allies. As soon as the war broke out, Biden, Stoltenberg, and Macron all said 'We lied. We never intended to allow Ukraine to join NATO'. RobS^Z+ 15:22, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

The United States officially recognizes Taiwan as sovereign Chinese territory, yet it arms Taiwanese separatists. In the Donbas and Crimea, where the people democratically voted for self-determination, the US has been conducting a war against civilians for 8 years. RobS^Z+ 15:29, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Michael Hudson, American Diplomacy as a Tragic Drama. RobS^Z+ 16:10, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Back in the real world:

• Feb. 20, 2022: "There is no invasion and there is (sic) no such plans. ... We don't threaten anyone." Ambassador to the U.S. Anatoly Antonov on CBS Face the Nation
• Feb. 18, 2022: "These military exercises, drills, are purely defensive and are not a threat to any other country." Vladimir Putin, news conference in Belarus
• Jan. 11, 2022: “There is no intention to attack Ukraine from Russia. None.” Dep. Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov, news conference in Geneva
• Dec. 5, 2021: "Russia is not a threat to any country." Statement from Russian US embassy
• Nov. 12, 2021: “Russia doesn’t threaten anyone. The movement of troops on our territory shouldn’t be a cause for anyone’s concern.” Dmitry Peskov, conference call with reporters

Plenty more where these came from, though I imagine with you, Rob, their dedication to mendacity is a feature, not a bug. ConwayIII (talk) 18:06, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

That's a dumb game you don't wanna play and you know you'll lose. Your own boy said, "Yes, we were lying. This is the real world." You evidently can't discern between diplomacy, fake news, and BS.RobS^Z+ 19:05, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Diplomacy consists of what diplomats say to each other, not the media. The two Russian proposed treaties (diplomatic protocols in writing) from December 2021 were on the table. RobS^Z+ 19:09, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

So a chief U.S. diplomat told the media the U.S. lied to Zelensky (a supposed ally) to bait him into war with Russia. Game Over. RobS^Z+ 19:11, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

A day never passes without hearing Zelensky scream, "Where's all the help NATO promised?" (meaning NATO troops and 1000 artillery pieces, never mind the fact NATO doesn't have the ability to manufacture the needed ammunition, or the ability to resupply the quantities of ammunition needed to the battlefield).

Right now, 200,000 Ukrainian troops are facing 15,000 Russians on the Kherson front. Anyone want to lay wagers who will win? Take it from me right now, and not CBS or CNN in three months when you will probably first hear about it. RobS^Z+ 19:25, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Feb. 17, 2022: "It's been the "Russian invasion hoax." ... The whole thing has been a CIA/Biden regime disinformation campaign." Rob Smith, brainfarting on the internet

I'll leave the question of mendacity vs. just-a-moron as an exercise for the reader. ConwayIII (talk) 20:05, July 31, 2022 (EDT)o

Well duh. Didn't Biden promise it would happen the day before, Feb. 16, duh?

• "Zelensky heightened concerns on Monday when he said he had been “told that February 16 will be the day of the attack,” making it a day of unity, but officials in the country later clarified that he was referring to media stories regarding the potential invasion." Amazing, when they fall for their own BS, or is Zelensky just a dunce who didn't get the memo? RobS^Z+ 20:57, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

One more comment: Ukraine and Zelensky were plotting an attack on the Donbas Republics for March. They had 120,000 troops on the border (which are systematically being cut up right now in their entrenchments as we speak on the Avdiviika front). RobS^Z+ 20:46, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

First Hitler gets a wild hare up his butt thinking he can conquer Ukraine, then Obama/Biden, now Conway. I mean, what is the matter with these people? RobS^Z+ 22:17, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Tracking Pelosi: Air traffic control reports Pelosi headed for Taiwan. RobS^Z+ 20:46, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

"On July 31, the plane with Nancy Pelosi on board took off from Guam, according to the tracking service Flightradar24. The destination of the special aircraft of the US Air Force Boeing C-40C (09-0540) was not specified, but it took of in the direction of the Philippines, Malaysia and Singapore."

Hypothetical scenario: Let's suppose Pelosi's plane is intercepted, forced to land, Pelosi gets carted off to the gulag for interrogation, faces trial, is convicted for incitement to war, given the death sentence, and incarcerated like Rudolph Hess for the duration of the conflict. What would be or could be the U.S. response? (a) kidnap the Chinese Ambassador, of lower rank, and ask for a trade? (b) kidnap the Chinese Ambassador, staff, and UN Mission personnel and ask for a trade? (c) nuke China? (d) apologize, pay reparations, and sign a peace treaty guaranteeing not to interfere in Chinese internal affairs and removing all U.S. interests from Taiwan? (e) Other? RobS^Z+ 21:19, July 31, 2022 (EDT)

Update 2: Singapore’s Foreign Ministry said that the U.S. delegation led by Pelosi will visit Singapore from August 1 to 2. So, on her way back after August 2, video footage of her meeting the President of Taiwan (who covertly flies down to Singapore) on a studio sound stage in Singapore is released, or some other deep fake, and 'victory' is proclaimed. The timid Chinese stood down to the mighty and courageous Biden junta. RobS^Z+ 01:12, August 1, 2022 (EDT)

Update 3: France Internationale reported that Pelosi will fly to Taiwan via Clark Air Base in the Philippines and will meet with President Tsai Ing-wen in Taipei on August 4. Then, on the evening of August 5, Pelosi’s plane will land at Yokota Air Base in Tokyo where she will meet with Fumio Kishida. RobS^Z+ 01:31, August 1, 2022 (EDT)

Update 4: Tanks on the move. Chinese trains can travel 120 mph and faster[46] Live fire Chinese GRADS into the Strait. An American precision guided HIMAR can make it across the Strait. RobS^Z+ 01:55, August 1, 2022 (EDT)

Update 5: Taipai TVBS revealed that reservations for Pelosi’s delegation have been made for tomorrow at the five-star Grand Hyatt Hotel in Taipei’s eastern governmental Xinyi District. [47] RobS^Z+ 22:08, August 1, 2022 (EDT)

Update: 6: The only video evidence that Pelosi indeed has landed in Taipai approximately 5 hours ago is this clip reported by most MSM propaganda outlets, likely the result of "face saving" negotiations between the U.S. and China reported by Politico yesterday. And you, the viewer and citizen taxpayer should be outraged by the blatant lies told to your face from the White House press podium, that the administration had nothing to do with this. Why then, is the Executive Branch sending a navy flotilla through the Taiwan Straits, providing Pelosi with aircraft and a fighter jet escort? If Pelosi wants to go to Taiwan, it should be done on her own dime. RobS^Z+ 14:56, August 2, 2022 (EDT)

Update: 7: 5 Hypersonic missiles fired by China, none of which were detected by US radar in Taiwan. China apparently has the Russian S-400, the proven, most effective air defense system against American fighter jets and cruise missiles available (the Russians have not sold the S-500 on the open market yet, reserving it for themselves. The outmoded S-300 surface-to-air, still in popular use, has been converted into a ground artillery piece in the Ukraine war). Doug MacGregor says we can't win a war against China. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 15:22, August 6, 2022 (EDT)

Time to move to Russia. Don't delay. Winter is coming!

• Time to move to Russia

Don't delay. Winter is coming!

The Russians are masters at propaganda! No mention of the winters.

Americans probably don't get it. It looks like it's aimed at Germans. RobS^Z+ 21:50, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

I get it, but its obviously a advert. It doesn't mention the winters or government corruption. Conservative (talk) 21:54, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Amazingly, Romanian TVee, a guy who usually is pretty sharp in reporting on a wide variety of things, took it seriously. First time I've seen him fall on his face like that. RobS^Z+ 21:57, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Actually, I didn't mean to say that it was purely an advertarial. It was obviously humorous trolling too. But the funny thing about the video was that everything it said was largely true. Conservative (talk) 22:29, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

Like when they say. 'traditional values' and show what looks like a lesbian relationship. Now, it's not beyond some official Russian travel and visitors bureau website posting a parody like this. That's in line with traditional Russian culture and humor. RobS^Z+ 22:52, July 30, 2022 (EDT)

John Mark Dougan, an American living in Moscow explains regarding one's religion and one's sexuality in Russia: you are expected to keep it to yourself and not dump it on other people. That's how Russian society deals with it. RobS^Z+ 22:57, July 30, 2022 (EDT)