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The good Dr. Zelenko

I hate to attack PeterKa, who went whole hog for us to test Hydroxychloroquine by adminstering it to his own person as a protective measure against the Wuhan virus infection, but the three studies as presented in the article he cited is nothing better than a doubling down on moronicity.

"Dr. Zelenko, you promised Hydroxychloroquine would work!"

"No, I promised it wouldn't work. Why else would my treatment protocol include two other drugs as repeated back and forth several times by my colleague User:Conservative?"

"But those scientists seemed so dismissive!"

"Republicans like Trump stand in the way of a lot of 'experts' who'd like a stable career in the government, stable that is, in the sense of not worrying each year if the Republican is going to cut the federally- or state-funded largess that would otherwise appear annually on their plates.

"They don't think having no competition is a detriment like we do, but rather their place in the natural order of things. That's why they have no hesitancy at all following on the heels of the Lancet scandal to shoot off remarks that presuppose gross misrepresentations about how hydroxychloroquine is actually used.

"Medical journals too have the loudest voices on the editorial boards directed toward politicizing medicine from the throats of those whose positions and titles are the most determined by what happens in government. Those who are barely affected by government don't stand a chance in developing the same kind of vital interest that the self-proclaimed elites do.

"For example, one of studies Peter's article cites comes from the Scripps Translational Science Institute which received $34 million from United States Government's National Institute of Health (NIH) in 2018.

"You'd think medical professionals and their science media allies wouldn't be petty enough to run a test on the literal sense of what was actually the President's shorthand reference to the treatment protocol I presented, rather than the actual treatment protocol itself that I developed. But you'd only be so much the more mistaken for not thoroughly considering the plausibility of the points I've made."

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 06:17, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Here's another gem from Peter's article by the American Association for the Advancement of Science:

On 5 June, researchers in the United Kingdom announced the results from the largest trial yet, Recovery, in a press release. In a group of 1542 hospitalized patients treated with hydroxychloroquine, 25.7% had died after 28 days, compared with 23.5% in a group of 3132 patients who had only received standard care. “These data convincingly rule out any meaningful mortality benefit,” wrote the investigators, who ended the study early and promised to publish the full results as soon as possible.

An incredulous Dr. Zelenko (and not just me channeling him) replied:

The WHO says hydroxychloroquine is no longer a potential COVID treatment, citing data from Oxford's “Recovery” Trial. #ZelenkoProtocol is 200 mg, twice a day, for 5 days. "Recovery" was 2400 mg the first day.
Are professional researchers accidentally administering TOXIC doses?

Needless to say, the Oxford study only relied on the University's own endowment fund to run the scientific trial to avoid conflicts of interest.

—Just kidding! It was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, the biggest vaccine funder in the world, whom, having been reported to the United Nations on charges of crimes against humanity, certainly could use an opportunity to raise their profile, and should they come to the rescue by funding the vaccine that cures the Wuhan virus, why that's destiny calling! Unless somebody else develops an effective treatment protocol first.

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 09:14, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Bill and Melinda Gates died in 2013, haven't you heard? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:29, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
The randomized studies discussed in the Science article did not use zinc because they are responding to Didier Raoult's non-randomized published study, not to Zelenko. Raoult administered HCQ and azithromycin to patients for three days without zinc. Zelenko has not published anything as of yet. I assume he will publish when results from the St. Francis Hospital study are compiled. The governments of India and Brazil are big backers of the Zelenko protocol and may be able to produce relevant results as well. (India has a vested interest as a major exporter of HCQ.) Trump-haters went to the trouble of faking two major studies on this subject, the Veteran's Administration study and the one published in The Lancet. Both of these studies portrayed HCQ as a form of poison. PeterKa (talk) 07:09, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
India has finally weighed in: "HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction." As you might expect from India, this is an enormous study with over 300,000 participants. PeterKa (talk) 10:50, 14 July 2020 (EDT)
Here is Brazil's study: "Among patients hospitalized with mild-to-moderate Covid-19, the use of hydroxychloroquine, alone or with azithromycin, did not improve clinical status at 15 days as compared with standard care." This is a randomized study in the New England Journal of Medicine. PeterKa (talk) 22:38, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

Recent HCQ research

This French paper looked at 29 published hydroxychloroquine studies, took the best 15 of them, and mathematically combined those into a giant super-study, called a "Bayesian meta-analysis." It concluded that HCQ by itself has no statistically significant effect on covid-19. The combination of HCQ and azithromycin increases mortality by 27 percent. There were studies that focused on patients in early stages of the disease, as well as other studies of late stage patients. So that doesn't seem to make a difference.

According to this preprint article, there are two redundant pathways that allow the virus to enter a cell. One uses a receptor called ACE2 and the other depends on the presence of the chemical TMPRSS2. In microscopic images of the virus, you can see the receptors stick out like plants growing on the surface of the virus. HCQ blocks only the ACE2 receptor, so it won't work by itself.

The obvious question is, is there another drug that could block the TMPRSS2 pathway? This French study suggests that zinc may do the trick. Switzerland was using the three-drug Zelenko treatment (HCQ, AZM, and zinc) until the WHO banned HCQ after the bogus Lancet study. The article uses the Swiss data to create a dramatic before-and-after chart. PeterKa (talk) 09:00, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Hagia Sophia, Islam's newest mosque

After eighty years as a museum, Hagia Sophia has reverted to being a mosque. Hagia Sophia was built as a church in 537 by Justinian, the emperor of law-giving fame. For nearly a thousand years, it was the pride of Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire. See "Turkey's Hagia Sophia holds first Friday prayers since conversion back to mosque." PeterKa (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

One big question: Why now, at this moment in time? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:41, 29 July 2020 (EDT)
Coverting Hagia Sophia polls well with President Erdogan's base. If doing the Islamist thing allows Erdogan's polls to recover, he can hold an early election. At a grander level, to reverse one of Ataturk's best known moves puts Erdogan on the same level as Ataturk. PeterKa (talk) 09:05, 2 August 2020 (EDT)
Chlora monastary, which I mention in the article "Byzantine Empire," has also been converted. See "Weeks after converting Hagia Sophia, Turkey converts the 4th-century Byzantine built Chora monastery to a mosque."
Meanwhile on the Temple Mount, Jews have started praying in defiance of the Waqf, the Muslim administration of the site. See "Jewish Worshippers Are Praying on the Temple Mount for the First Time in Decades." Defense Minister Moshe Dayan decided not to allow Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount back in 1967. Since that time, the Israeli courts had ruled in favor of freedom of worship at the site several times to no effect. PeterKa (talk) 08:57, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
  • Make the Roman Empire Great Again
  • 30,000+ rioting mob
  • Plague sweeps empire
  • Religious nuts in Middle East causing trouble
  • Wife probably posed naked - but was super hot
  • Snake-like journos write bad gossip about him
  • mfw Justinian is Trump, and 6th cen. Byz is USA

Thales of Tampa Bay @VarangianSkull

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 15:13, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Like Justinian, Trump is taking a stand for civilization in an age of rising barbarism. Perhaps the James Webb supertelescope, which has a 6.5 meter mirror and will oribit L2 above the far side of the moon, will be Trump's Hagia Sophia. See "Meet the largest science project in US government history—the James Webb Telescope." Trump testing positive for covid was foreshadowed by Justinian falling ill with plague and then miraculously recovering. But let's hope the story has a happier ending this time around. Between the plague, the wars in Italy, and war with Persia, the empire had sunk into the Dark Ages by the end of Justinian's reign. It would be 500 years before the universities were reopened and the Code of Justinian taught again. PeterKa (talk) 00:10, 3 October 2020 (EDT)
This is what makes the 2020 Armenia-Azerbaijan Conflict so deadly; Turkey backs their Muslim brothers in Azerbaijan while Russia backs its Christian brothers in Armenia. RobSFree Kyle! 00:19, 3 October 2020 (EDT)
We're getting far past the time of booting Turkey out of NATO and patching things up with Russia, particularly when the CCP weighs in with Azerbaijan. RobSFree Kyle! 00:21, 3 October 2020 (EDT)
Pity, none of this would have happened, the collapse of the NATO alliance and China's overreach if Gen. Michael Flynn had been National Security Advisor. The Deep State framed up Flynn to CYA for their illegal spying and crimes, not over his policy proposal to form a detente with Russia, isolate Iran, and preserve Turkey as a NATO ally. RobSFree Kyle! 00:25, 3 October 2020 (EDT)

Foolishness and laziness causes massive explosion in Beirut. Hanlon's razor strikes again

A monster explosion in Beirut has killed at least 100 people. Hezbollah, Iran's favorite terrorist group, kept 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate at a warehouse near the port. This explosion may represent part of that cache blowing up prematurely. We should not view this as a problem local to Lebanon. Iran may be planning an offensive that includes targets in other countries. The London police found three tons of Hezbollah's ammonium nitrate in 2015. The Germans found hundreds of kilograms earlier this year. Israel blew up Natanz, Iran's uranium enrichment plant, last month. There was also a suspicious explosion at a missile plant. The Iranian media hasn't had much to say about either of these incidents. But they are doing their best to work the country into a frenzy over the Soleimani assassination. See "Hezbollah stockpiled chemical behind Beirut blast in London and Germany" and "Iran Craving Revenge for Gen. Soleimani’s Blood: IRGC Chief." PeterKa (talk) 18:28, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

So was somebody smoking in the warehouse or did the IDF and CIA pull the plug on Iranian operations? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:25, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
Nobody would let 2,750 tons of NH4 nitrate sit on the shoreline not going to's too valuable! Lebanon is close to going bankrupt. They would have distributed it to farmers to buy votes.
Look at the smoke plume. It's reddish-brown. Isn't ammonium nitrate yellowish-white?
Ammonium nitrate would have flattened the city for over a square mile. Remember Timothy McVeigh had what? A half a ton?
The blast broke glass over six miles away. But the road nearest the shoreline directly across from the conflagration had buildings that were untouched, structurally, besides the glass.
2020 Beirut, Lebanon explosion ground zero.jpg
If you look at the pictures, the rectangular silo 100 ft from where the blast happened was scarred by fire, but still standing sound.
This was a controlled explosion. It all went upward.
What was it then? It's probably octagen, safely stored among civilians, so no one could touch it, used in ballistic missles to enhance the explosion of the nuclear payload. Whom else, but Iran?
Trump said it was probably an attack. Why was Trump smirking about it? What does he care? Unless...
Octagen melts into brownish magma-like mush under high temperatures. It wasn't a detonation; it was a deflagration.
By the way, the mushroom-cloud-like blast, sort of like an H-Bomb, was really just water vapor.
Whomever did it probably spared Israel from another war. I don't think it was Hezbollah. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 20:39, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
135 dead, 5000 wounded, 100 missing, 300,000 homeless, 50% of Beirut damaged, 85% of food stockpiles destroyed
RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:50, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
Hezbollah is sending out spoof propaganda to avenge Iran against Israel. There were some buildings that were structurally the same looking, but one a pile of rubble and next to it, one that you couldn't tell it had been in an explosion. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 20:56, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
And correction: Timothy McVeigh purchased 2,050 pounds of NH4 nitrate, not 1,000. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 21:01, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
I think it's pretty obvious what happened; as things heat up in the China theatre war zone, the U.S. and Israelis took out a weapons storage cache, making the Chinese think twice about their reliance on an their Iranian allies to create diversions. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:49, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
The ammonium nitrate has been sitting in a warehouse at the port for the past six years. Hezbollah runs the port and the Lebanese government is a helpless bystander. There is a now 500-foot crater where the warehouse was. I don't think there is any question that the ammonium nitrate is to blame. This explosion was magnitude 3.3. The 1947 Texas City explosion was magnitude 2.1 and used 2,087 metric tons ammonium nitrate. They're saying that the Beirut explosion might have been triggered by a welding accident. To the US media, this is a tale of the corruption and incompetence of the Lebanese government. They don't even mention Iran or Hezbollah. Is there anything more important than protecting the ayatollahs and the "legacy" of Obama's glorious deal? PeterKa (talk) 00:11, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
Gatewaaypundit says Natanyahu identified the site 2 years ago. I doubt Gatewaypundit would run the story if they were asked not to. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:28, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
I don't think the location was ever secret. This ammonium nitrate was confiscated from a ship bound for Mozambique back in 2014. The owners sued to get it back. The powerless customs service has been sending out "urgent matters" letters to anyone who will listen. But Hezbollah was never interested in giving up its terrorist ammunition dump. PeterKa (talk) 01:58, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
You don't need to tell us it left a crater, all we need to do is look at the picture! You'll also note in that picture the unaffected apartment buildings across the road.
You can tell how small the crater is; the destruction of the dock itself is isolated to that one slip, and somehow the silo next to it was left standing almost as a precision cut. Can you seriously believe an ammonium nitrate explosion wouldn't have knocked down that silo and/or destroyed the dock much more? Isn't it obvious the octogen burned a hole and breached the underground portion of the silo where that fuel poured in and then, the explosive having cooled down to a detonatable temperature and using that hole like a gun barrel, exploded straight upward?
Before the big explosion there were two smaller ones. At one point it looked and sounded like miniature firecrackers were popping all at once. Those were the warheads stored there exploding in the heat.
"HMX, also called octogen, is a powerful and relatively insensitive nitroamine high explosive, chemically related to RDX."—another wiki
"Iran intends to produce the powerful explosive Octogen for use in the warheads of its missiles to improve their 'destructive and penetration power,' Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan said Wednesday.
Octogen is used as an explosive in penetrating missile warheads and as a solid rocket fuel — but is also employed as part of the detonator in an atomic bomb. The Times of Israel, April 7, 2016.
Nobody knows what happened to the ammonium nitrate, but after a certain point Iran stored various contraband weapons material there for years.
This is confirmed by a Beirut news site, Al Arabiya, which reported:
"Initial information: The explosion occurred in a Hezbollah arms store in Beirut Port."
Octogen has a very narrow range of liquefaction. It's a stable solid without the application of direct flame until 270° C. Once it gets above 280° C it starts to boil away without exploding. Boiling it was an idea in shaping the explosion by draining as much energy as possible before it couldn't be stopped from igniting. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 03:40, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
The ammonium nitrate had been in its city location for an extended time - like 6 years.[1] It should have never been stored in a city location for an extended time and seemed to get bogged down in incompetent bureaucracy. It should have been stored in a remote location and closely monitored.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."- Hanlon's razor Conservative (talk) 03:04, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Okay! I won't be talking about this again. If you want to read the latest update on this theory here is the accumulated info in one long Twitter thread by HeshmatAlavi. He has 77,000 followers and writes about the hidden connections to Tehran of the Iranian regime's defenders. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 08:00, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
IMO, the claim that there was no malice involved is motivated by the desire to protect Hezbollah, Iran, and Obama's nuclear deal. Ammonium nitrate is worth money as fertilizer. The building that blew up was controlled by Hezbollah. The Lebanese government does not have the ability to force Hezbollah to follow safety protocol. Inspectors might have discovered that a significant amount ammonium nitrate went missing over the years. After all, the stuff has shown up in terrorist arms caches in both Britain and in Germany. I suspect a lot of it was sold to farmers. The world's nastiest terrorist group had full access to this stuff for seven years. PeterKa (talk) 09:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Here is an interview with the captain of the MV Rhosus, the ship that brought the ammonium nitrate to Beirut. He says the owner told him to make an unscheduled stop and unload the cargo. Then nobody claimed it. His recommendation was to distribute to farmers in Lebanon as fertilizer. It seems that Hezbollah had other plans.
Mozambique denied that it ever received notification that the Rhosus shipment was due. Beirut is not a waystation on the Georgia-to-Mozambique route. In short, the operation was a ruse from the beginning. Igor Grechushkin, the ship's owner, lives in Cyprus and is being questioned by police there. See "Israel TV: Hezbollah apparently wanted Beirut’s ammonium nitrate for Israel war." PeterKa (talk) 01:46, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
What have you heard about Pelosi adding money back into a bill for the Lebanese military just days or weeks ago? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 14:52, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

500 Internal Server Error

Nothing else is worth talking about on this site until "500 Internal Server Error" stops popping up. This site has been broken for 90% of the day. Shobson20 (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

It's hard finding those brief windows when this site works to even get messages through. Shobson20 (talk) 20:49, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

Democrat mania

So what's the Democrat strategy?

They have been trained to shout down all opposition as being illegitimate.


Therefore, they're implementing a strategy based on the assumption that everyone agrees with them.


The pre-failed Democratic strategy results from leftists thinking that a lack of vocal opposition means agreement. And that's why they think that everyone is a radical leftist.

Leftists started out by saying that WORDS are violence.


Because that allows them to carry out unprovoked physical assaults and call them "self-defense." Then they moved on to IDEAS are violence. The physical assaults can be ratcheted up in the name of self defense. NOW, we're at SILENCE is violence. This is straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

It's not enough to kill someone for dissenting. First you must CONVERT them, and then they'll beg for death because they transgressed. The final step—which we're seeing in the Democratic platform—is that EXISTENCE is violence. Leftists have accepted reverse Jim Crow. And Nazism.

White people must be socially, politically, academically, and commercially exterminated. The NAZIS' first step. When you add this to the notion that we are what we say we are, it's a recipe for genocide. In order to continue to exist, whites must take a pledge to identify as people of color. And they must agree to be second-class citizens.

Leftists think that everyone agrees with them:


By merely existing, he's FORCING people to burn down cities.

They believe this to be a winning strategy. It's because they don't listen, and they insist on imposing their ideas by force.@COsweda

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:06, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

I bet the dems are also making this site constantly break with DDOS attacks and constantly creating 500 Internal Server Errors. Shobson20 (talk) 23:47, 6 August 2020 (EDT)'re the only one getting them. We're trying to drop a hint that you need to shape up! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:51, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
LiberalTears is apparently getting them too. Shobson20 (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
What do you mean, shape up? If this is about recent spats, I've been trying to help stop them. Besides, DavidB4 has been getting it too, and he thinks it might be a DDoS. Shobson20 (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Well, those two...I'm just kidding. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 00:49, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I'm not laughing, I've been so incensed from being locked out of this site for most of the day, and the thought that you were doing it deliberately made me absolutely enraged. It wasn't funny. Shobson20 (talk) 00:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I'm sorry. I'm mortified, I didn't mean to do that. Sometimes I'll post something and that message comes up, and I say to myself, "was this edit that bad?" I thought others felt that way too. Sorry again. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:02, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
[promoted by VM] Here's the strategy: They will stuff the ballot box in enough states with Democrat Secretaries of State with enough mail ballots to create enough confusion to make the 2000 Florida recount look like a picnic. The same "Trump-Russia" media apparatus will pound in our heads that Trump is a sore loser. Lawsuits in a dozen states challenging recounts will overwhelm the U.S. Supreme Court, and it won't be able to sort it all out before Electors meet. Democrat Secretaries of State will ignore ongoing lawsuits and declare their electors for Biden. Pelosi, #2 in succession after Trump-Pence are voted out, will assume the roll of Commander-in-Chief and have the Pentagon fumigate Trump out of the White House. Contingencies are place. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:11, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I think you have a good point about Democrat Secretaries of State (in the sense that should not be trusted). For example, in Arizona, it was oddly suspicious that Katie Hobbs would let Sen. McSally's primary challenger use his campaign slogan as part of his name on the ballot (see here). If that's permissible, then would Trump be able to put "MAGA" next to his name on the ballot for the presidential election? I'm pretty sure the reason that it was allowed was to promote a schism in the Republican Party in Arizona, making it easier to hand Democrats a victory there with the help the latter is already getting from fake pollsters and "nonpartisan" election ratings that act as continuous suppression attempts via making it seem hopeless for Republicans to win there. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 01:47, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Recall the media circus of the Florida Recount. Now multiply that times 12 simultaneously. A winner will not be declared election nite, what with some states allow 7 days to declare a winner like Nevada. Then factor in that the MSM and fake polls have Trump losing,. On election night, MSM reports Biden ahead but irregularities all over the map. Trump files lawsuits but MSM for the next few keep upo the drumbeat, Biden won. Biden won. Biden won. But the irregularities get no coverage. I'm not sure yet if Biden won the Iowa caucuses, honestly. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Problems for the Democrats with this scenario: If 12 Democrat State Secretaries of State call voting irregularities, the odds that they would all be Democratic states under random chance are 212 or 1 in 4096. They can't say "Democrats haven't had vote counting problems" and "Who would have believed the odds lined up like that?" You can only pick one or the other.
And even if there are widespread problems due to sabotage, the Democrats can't ignore the results of the election if Trump is ahead in non-disputed areas, and throw it to Biden. There could be legislation to delay the counting deadline. If you remember Bush/Gore 2000, the Supreme Court can quickly take up appeals to the intention of the Constitution.
Also, Trump has reversed the usual dynamic of a Presidential re-election being a referendum on the incumbent and laid that on the Democrats and their mob activity.
Maybe you haven't heard this one, but someone suggested the west coast might secede. But all Trump would have to do is send in the army to arrest the rebel governors. The West Coast is either sick of the rioters or sick of the hamfisted disaster power-posturing.
Fake polls: The problem with the fake polls is not actually that they're fake, but that [they] proceed from unlikely assumptions. The pollsters are afraid of lawsuits. Of course the media love hiding the meaning of the assumptions, but in such a case, every conservative pundit and TV and radio show host will give Americans a crash course in how to adjust underlying assumptions using all the evidence, like last year's elections, exit polls and surprises or lack of surprises in turnout in states that do it right.
If the media and officials try the drumbeat thing, the less-informed American voters will look and say "it's all of a piece!" Democrat mob excitement (if not mayhem) and attempts at election cheerleading.
You can't send in massive mail ballots and not expect to get slapped with mail fraud charges. We found out during the Obama Administration that the United States Post Office photographs every single piece of mail sent in the United States. And then at least one these lowlifes will inform on their boss and get him booked for conspiracy.
But thanks for sharing your concerns. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 03:44, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I think we can as early as June this year that the final outcome is headed for the courts. There will be no final determination election night. Irregularities will be reported even in states with GOP secretaries of state. But it will be difficult for CNN and MSNBC to provide round-the-clock recount coverage as in Florida 2000; it'll all have to be consolidated at CNN "election headquarters". While the focus is on a larger state such as Florida, meantime Nevada sneaks in 6 electors putting Biden over the top which CNN and Pelosi quickly rubber stamp before team Trump and SCOTUS are able to act. Perceptions are everything.
Some people still believe Gore won Florida, Trump colluded with Russia, Saddam had WMD, Building 7 was knocked down by Zionists, Clinton did not have sex with that woman, Reagan was a closet member of the KKK, Anita Hill was telling the truth, Owen Lattimore was not a communist, FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand, the Civil War was about states rights, or for that matter the Rock the Christian Church was built on is Peter and not Christ. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:04, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Great segué, RobS! Christ is the chief cornerstone, after all. But remember when you listen to Liz Cheney in Congress that Saddam was himself a WMD. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 15:56, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

Incredible story

The Spectator reported the medical examiner's toxicology report for George Floyd, and it was amazing. It looks as though George Floyd had taken Fentanyl minutes before as a suicide attempt.

The probable reason why he didn't want to get into the police car was because he didn't want to die there on the way to the police station.

The website reported he had taken three times a fatal dose, and asked to be allowed to lie in the street. Also, he was apparently still speaking when the ambulance was only four blocks away.

And the depressant drug had already started to work on his diaphragm muscles while he was still standing, as he said then that he couldn't breathe.

Also, from observation, I said I thought he had been lain on his back, and that that may have caused him to asphyxiate from the weight of his depressed (involuntarily relaxed) diaphragm muscles causing him to be unable to expand his lungs. But days later, and confirmed in the new chest camera videos released, it was said in the news he had been lain on his stomach, and I think there was a voice that said at one point, "that's why we're laying him on his stomach." If anything, being lain in the street on his stomach kept him conscious longer.

The chest camera as released also shows the police had taken proper steps to care for Floyd while he was in their custody in a case where it was still in doubt in the media. The ambulance approaching had been told they were urgently needed (or at least requested at elevated concern) even when he was still speaking lucidly, and the paramedics had just missed being able to speak to Floyd by four blocks. I don't know what remains in terms of negligence on their part. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:36, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

Please put this detail on MPR

Has anyone else seen a recent attack ad by the Lincoln Project Stinkin' Project attacking Susan Collins? They absurdly claimed that she "never stands up to Donald Trump", as if one thought that Never Trumpers couldn't have a shorter memory span, not to mention any bit of common sense. And Collins is setting the record straight. Not that I particularly like Susan Collins much (especially her pathetic vote earlier this year against banning late-term abortions), but some of the attacks on her aren't just false, they're blatantly outrageous. I wonder where's PolitiFake when you need them? The latter just doesn't fact-check some of the most outrageous claims made by Democrats and over-zealous anti-Trumpers. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 13:50, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

I think we ought to add more updates and important details for the Senate elections on MPR; they are almost just as important as the presidential election, as the upper chamber is the one that confirms judicial nominees. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 13:54, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

One problem is the delays in primaries and ballot box stuffing, etc.; I still don't know what happened in the Loffler/Doug Collins contest in Georgia. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 14:39, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
So for the Senate special election in Georgia, I think what would happen is that all the candidates compete in one race coinciding with the normal general elections (a jungle primary) that are held on November 3; if no one gets a majority of the votes, then the top two performers compete in a runoff held early next year. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 14:59, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Also, what about the detail I mentioned regarding Susan Collins? Do you suppose you could type it in your own words and put it on MPR? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 15:01, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Write up a headline and I'll post it.
So Doug Collins and Loeffler meet in November? I saw a good paid advertisement on Gatewaypundit for Doug Collins last week, then a hard-hiiting pro-conservative add for Loeffler the other day somewhere else. It gets very confusing, especially since both are advertising in national publications and there won't be a decision til November. And since Loeffler is the establishment candidate, she probably can outspend Doug by November. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:02, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Alright, so here's my idea for an MPR headline:

Sen. Susan Collins, normally known for being a RINO, fires back after an extremely anti-Trump group ridiculously claimed that she "never stands up to Donald Trump". [2] The facts are clear: Collins bucked with Trump on ACA repeal efforts, Betsy DeVos, banning late-term abortions, and Iran war powers.

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 17:41, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

"In fact, while Trump was fighting the Deep State, I was secretly enmeshed in the Deep State!"
I can come up with these all day. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:35, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
So what's your point, Vargas? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 18:57, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Why do you ask? It looks like your mind is ↓↓↓ made up already. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 00:47, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
If you can come up with great headline ideas, then do you usually do that in requesting certain news to be put on MPR? I noticed that you talk here quite a bit, and since this is for content related to the main page, I'm kind of curious on how often it is that the information in the sections you put here are posted by an administrator on MPR, excluding the specification of fixing grammar/wording errors. After all, if your activity on this site is unproductive, it could potentially count as a violation of the 90/10 rule. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 01:34, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
You're not in a position to be able to deliberate about those kinds of things, especially if you are changing the subject after someone merely comments on your headline suggestion. My activities don't threaten your proposals in the slightest, unless your proposals are ill-intended, in which case they are hardly "great". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 17:08, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Now hold on a second, Vargas. So you can break CP rules, but I can't question you over it? Are you serious about setting this type of impression, especially on hard-working editors like me who devote several hours of time every day to improvising Conservapedia? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 18:57, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Vargas work on coronavirus and China issues is invaluable, being that the information pouring across our desks daily is far too much than anyone can handle. It is a sort of division of labor here. RobSTrump 2Q2Q
Now hold on a sec; Does that excuse him from the 90/10 rule? If he's great at gathering useful information, can't he add it to the respective content pages? It'd be a double standard for most editors here to abide by the rules while Vargas gets to talk, talk, and talk without making very significant mainspace edits. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 18:48, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Yes and no; collaborative editing should be a team effort. Some people are great researchers and horrible prose writers; others are great prose writers but need material to feed on. Still others have talent as copy editors or technical skills. All this requires discussion and coordination, and building relationships. No man is an island. If talk because nonsensical and a waste of other peoples time, it's soon apparent. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:01, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

Thank you RobSmith for posting my proposed headline on MPR! —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 18:57, 7 August 2020 (EDT

Biden running mate pick

The next big news story is expected to be a super-nova of self-congratulation. Kamala Harris's odds of being chosen as Joe Biden's running mate is floating around 40% in the political futures market. Followed by Susan Rice at 25%.

Flashback: she's a bad candidate, but she has a good theme song:

She's smart!
She's strong!
With Ká má-lá you-can't-go-wrong-she's
She's strong!
With Ká má-lá you-can't-go-wrong-she's...

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 18:59, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

Related news: Biden cancels trip to Milwaukee to accept nomination. Because skipping Wisconsin worked out so well last time.—@hale_razor.

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 19:07, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

Here's something to consider: if Harris is picked for VP and Biden somehow manages to win the presidential election with the help of massive election fraud, then who would be appointed to replace her for the Senate seat until 2022? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 19:08, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
That kind of question would be dwarfed by the event proposed in your hypothesis. A strategic execution of that magnitude really isn't possible to go undetected by law enforcement with Trump at the helm. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 20:06, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
The odds shifted dramatically in Kamala Harris's favor after someone photographed Joe Biden's talking points ten days ago: "“Do not hold grudges.” “Campaigned with me & Jill.” “Talented.” “Great help to campaign.” “Great respect for her.”"[3] Pundits are saying that the running mate will run the country if Biden is elected. I wonder if Jill Biden sees it that way. When Woodrow Wilson was incapacitated, his wife Edith took over. PeterKa (talk) 23:02, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
If it's not Michelle Obama or Susan Rice, the pledge to pick a woman of color is probably out the window. Biden's probably not making the pick anyway, but rather the DNC Politburo that's making all the decisions right now. Consultants, focus groups, polling, etc. targeted in a few states and districts necessary in their electoral map strategy. Possibly a Pennsylvanian or Floridian. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:31, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

Clean up on Aisle 13

[4] RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:01, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

Kamala Harris would outlaw dissent

By selecting Kamala Harris as his running mate, Biden is sending a message that abusive prosecution would be A-OK with a Biden adminstraton. According to Harris, climate realists are a bunch of "warming deniers" who should go to jail for securities fraud. To fight Christians, Obama leaked the tax returns of the National Organization for Marriage. Today's liberals don't think he went far enough. See here and here. PeterKa (talk) 19:58, 11 August 2020 (EDT

Who can forget Tulsi Gabbard's awesome takedown of Harris? See "Tulsi Destroys Kamala & Kamala Blames Russia!" This is easily the campaign's most entertaining moment. Go Tulsi! PeterKa (talk) 05:47, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
How can you say that? I went to Twitter search (they've apparently started showing profiles of people there) and was very suprised to see a large ad for a feature about how America loves Kamala Harris now, splashed across the screen, including a large picture of her! She looked adorable!
I was surprised because I remember how her support dropped to 2% among Democratic voters, partly because she prosecuted blacks while giving illegal aliens from Mexico all kinds of privileges meant for American citizens. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 06:40, 12 August 2020 (EDT)

Not only has Harris insinuated that Biden is a racist, but she has stated that she believes the women who have accused Biden of sexual assault: "I believe them and I respect them being able to tell their stories and having the courage to do it."[5] How do you get over burned bridges like those? "Vote for the racist! Vote for the sex criminal!" Pay some money to Hunter, find a woman that Joe can sniff the hair of, and the Bidens are under control. PeterKa (talk) 07:00, 12 August 2020 (EDT)

Let's see how she's dealing with jailing blacks for marijuana while joking about using the drug herself, and maybe this will give you an answer:
"Kamala has become the main Senate sponsor of the Marijuana Opportunity, Reinvestment, and Expungement (MORE) Act."
I.e.: Like Mayor Bill deBlasio, plaster new, opposite wrong acts over whatever previous wrong acts she had been publicized as having committed! VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 07:58, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
Another corrupt prosecutor - that's all America needs at this moment in time. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:17, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
It is widely assumed that Harris will run the country if Biden is elected. That simplifies Republican messaging. If you look at the results from Iowa or New Hampshire, my spin is that Democrats didn't have the heart to tell pollsters that Biden was a doofus who wasn't up to the job of being president, or anything else really. Harris is easier to hate. She is the new Hillary and you can rerun the hits from 2016.
Harris doesn't bring a battleground state with her. She has little or no likability. If Biden wins the election, she would force him out, or at least boss him around. So what's in it for Biden? I suspect that there was a deal made at the time of the South Carolina primary. The donors would force the minor candidates out, Harris would be named running mate, and cabinet positions will be for sale, as they were under Obama. PeterKa (talk) 22:58, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
You give Harris too much credit. The committee that selected Harris for Biden will be running Harris once Biden is declared brain dead. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:35, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Server errors

Can someone please explain what's going on? After the site finally loaded after yesterday's database error, all the restorations made by Andy following the previous server error got wiped out, and I have no idea why. It's becoming more and more frustrating to have to deal with these types of problems when trying to make large edits because all the page view counts get wiped out when the edits associated with them disappear. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 10:24, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Sorry for the technical issues, which we are working through. Appreciate your patience and will have more information as we review this further. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:31, 19 August 2020 (EDT)
I don't mind technical issues once in a while, though it does get annoying when edits get wiped out. Andy, are the contributions that got erased still retrievable? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 11:47, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Gold financial standard mentioned on MPR

Just a brief note: I'm someone who's been watching the debt/GDP ratio for years and have kept articles current to hold those in government accountable who overspend regardless of party, but I'm not as worried about Trump's recent $3 trillion debt increases as I was. If Trump is able to win a peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and Israel (as the centerpiece among other such treaties between Israel and Middle Eastern nations), then his modernization of the military (and he's done quite a lot) was worth it.

Recently, maybe you saw the time Trump said he was pulling out of Syria, and he held a press conference to explain; at one point he reinforced he was leaving Syria and stepped away from the podium, somebody spoke, and he quickly stepped back and said, "Oh yes, except for the oilfields [that the U.S. would occupy]."

Apparently Trump was only seeming to be distracted, and Putin took the bait and sent in a Russian mercenary force the Russians said had gone rogue. And apparently next the force was close to being utterly destroyed before Russia asked the United States to stop and allow them to retreat.

Trump didn't have any trouble with his withdrawal from Syria after that. The hoped-for ensuing peace from his military modernization could, of paramount importance, expect to attain to the relief and thanks of America's long-suffering military families. But it also may very well have long-term cost savings that in the future we will also look to admire for relieving our large debts. The recovery of the stock market to pre-Wuhan virus levels may reflect institutional investors anticipating those savings right now as well.

Democrats talk and talk at their convention, while Trump racks up the accomplishments. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 10:44, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Ann Coulter says Kamala Harris is legally eligible to hold the office of Vice President, but earlier observed that Harris even failed the bar exam

"I don't think so! May have been a bad decision but in 1898 S. Ct held children born in U.S. to legal immigrants (not ambassadors, etc) are American citizens." (August 16, 2020)

San Francisco, Kamala's region, also is failing due to the abuses of its townspeople by its ultra-liberalism. In mid-July 2020 the number of real estate lots for sale had doubled over the previous year. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 00:39, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

Odds increase in Trump's favor even as Democrats try to run their anti-Trump convention

It's not as surprising as you might think; the chumps who run the Democratic Party didn't buy any social media ads the week during the convention they are trying to run, so Trump had no competing bids and got some deals on publicity spending while ensuring the public is now suffering cognitive dissonance from the exposure of the Democrats' false talking points this week. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:54, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

The Democrats have run another very corrupt and incompetent individual. They learned nothing from 2016.Conservative (talk) 07:43, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

What happened to Joe Biden's intellect?

Joe Biden was actually a master debater during (now) Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings. We're supposed to think his ability disappeared during the Obama presidency. I thought he hid his debating abilities for the purpose of not upstaging Obama.

But why wouldn't he hide his intellect for four years more afterwards if he could during the interim and then persuade a South Carolinian Senator to persuade his constituents to vote for him during the primaries (which swung him to victory) by revealing the ruse and bumbling around while dodging tough questions?

After all, the only debates he had were against novice Sarah Palin and globalist Paul Ryan! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 07:38, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

To be honest, I'm actually quite surprised Paul Ryan actually LOST against Biden, since Biden's repeatedly chuckling regarding Ryan's constant references to lost jobs among Americans should have been a good way to lose the debate against Ryan (heck, I'm surprised the GOP didn't use that as a soundbyte for an attack ad. I know I would have in their position). Pokeria1 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Pokeria, Biden would have claimed, "I was chuckling because I didn't believe the statistic." You might have seen RobS and I go back and forth about unemployment rates and "dis-employment" rates during the earlier phases of the Wuhan virus pandemic. Those kinds of ideas show that there would wiggle room for Biden to say that. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 00:56, 22 August 2020 (EDT)


Judiciary Committee Chairman Biden: "[From memory] The unsworn statements being placed in the when...the witnesses...stipulate...that they're admissible,...when the parties mentioned in the statements stipulate they are admissible and when the Committee...stipulates they are admissible...which is the case of the Angela Wright stipulation—correct? That is different, so no one confuse later...that there's a fundamental distinction.
"Now...Senator...[quietly, while looking at Senator Allen Spector] who-uh do you have here...." (October 13, 1991, Clarence Thomas hearings).

That was when he was only forty-eight years old. Most debaters are in their prime at seventy.

Mark Levin used to call Joe Biden "the dumbest man in the Senate," but he really had a subtle intellect, and I think he had a reputation for that that Mark Levin was trying to counter, but eventually the jab Levin used actually came to hide his debating skills.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 08:31, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

The Japanese live about 6 years longer than Americans if memory serves and Alzheimer's disease is the 15th leading cause of death in Japan.[6] The Japanese are significantly thinner than Americans as well and have a "fat tax".
Alzheimer's disease is the 6th leading cause of death in the USA (or at the very least, its up there).[7][8]
Americans need to: slim down, eat more fish and eat less meat/dairy.[9]
Joe Biden is Catholic. If only Joe Biden was a stricter Catholic and ate fish every Friday! Stained glass windows, big cathedrals, fish on Fridays, some ethical nonprofit charities and better hospitals than secular hospitals (see: Religious hospitals vs. secular hospitals: Quality of care). Speaking as an ex-Catholic, these are the best things about Catholicism!Conservative (talk) 10:11, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Previously, I joked about having mandatory boot camps/fat farms for overweight Americans who are overweight due to non-medical reasons. Setting my previously joking aside, I wouldn't be against a "fat tax" in the USA given that taxpayers fund Medicaid/Medicare and businesses are paying a lot for medical insurance for their employees.Conservative (talk) 10:16, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
You're right. Maybe Joe Biden ate more meat and less fish than he should have, and that caused cognitive decline, and he's not "hiding" anything in the way of debating abilities. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 10:35, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
If Oprah Winfrey, Mark Cuban or Michelle Obama would have run, the Democrats would be in better position to win in 2020. My guess is that none of these people want the POTUS position. Post Richard Nixon, the position has lost some of its lustre.Conservative (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

Interesting elaboration on post above: "In the first case, Lapo Filistrucchi and Jens Prüfer of Tilburg University studied the healthcare strategies of Catholic and Protestant hospitals in Germany. At the time of their study, in 2006 and 2008, approximately 830 of the 1,930 hospitals in Germany operated as nonprofits. Of this number, 40 percent identified as Catholic and 23 percent as Protestant. The study found that though the Protestant hospitals were smaller than the Catholic hospitals, they provided relatively more complex treatment procedures to fewer patients. The Catholic hospitals in the study tended to provide less specialized treatment, opting instead to help as many patients as possible. This would suggest, of course, that while in Germany at the next Oktoberfest, you might want to go to a Protestant hospital if you have a gall bladder attack from the over-consumption of bratwurst but a Catholic hospital if you sprain your wrist from drinking beer out of an oversized bierkrug (stein)."[10]Conservative (talk) 13:53, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

If you've had the time to listen to the 1975 NPR broadcast on the soundcloud link from the Biden page about his 1975 Amendment that repealed court ordered busing, in the NPR interview Biden says, "we social engineers". Social engineering was controversial enough in 1975, and few if any people ever stepped forward to identify themselves as a "social engineer" (I can't think of another over the past 45 years). Social engineering today is just, if not even more controversial than back then, although in todays context it's more related to open borders than affirmative action or busing. And usually when you hear the term, it's in a pejorative sense which nobody on the left is willing to step forward and own (they use terms like "change", etc). I'm amazed thus far nobody, on the left or right, has raised the issue of Biden calling himself a "social engineer" as a young Senator in the 1970s, either to attack him or defend him as some sort of civil rights activist. That statement in that interview is truly a "Bidenesque" defining moment. Do we elect senators to be representatives or "social engineers"? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 17:35, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Defining moment? C'mon RobS. Wasn't it just 32-year-old Senator Biden repeating a buzzword that he had heard? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 23:42, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
But on the other hand, I agree with you the remark helps point out there's no doubt Biden is an elitist or was an elitist (among other things) as shown by his quotes during the Civil Rights Act rollback he spearheaded (see Joseph Biden#Segregation section that RobS wrote), as much as Biden tried to hide it (and still does).
I should have said, "C'mon man!" (There's a video of Biden saying this phrase on a dozen or more occasions during the campaign, often when he wants to change an uncomfortable subject, that are strung together by video edits). VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 21:58, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Here's you thumbnail talking point that is 100% factual - "The Biden Amendment of 1975 repealed portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 to make school segregation legal again." Take it to the bank. No fact checkers can deny it. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:00, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Oh, and "social engineering" is also used by gay and transgender rights activists. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:03, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Third Temple

Does Conservapedia have a position on rebuilding the Temple? These edits to MPR seem to be quite enthusiastic about the idea. But I would say that there are some problems theologically. Paul tells us that the "man of lawlessness" will "take his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God." (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) PeterKa (talk) 08:12, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

If memory serves, one could reasonably guess that Jesus kicks the antichrist out of his seat in the temple of God and then reigns during the 1,000 years of the millenium (The early church practiced premillenialism as far as their eschatology[11][12]). Christian Zionists (and perhaps others) maintain that the temple needs to be rebuilt before Jesus returns.[13]Conservative (talk) 10:25, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Godly Jews and Christians should rebuild the Temple so that anti-Christ can preach from it? For the Crusaders, the Dome of the Rock was the Temple. As for the temples described in Ezekiel and Revelation, those don't sound like something you could build physically. PeterKa (talk) 23:14, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) wrote in Pensée 726: "p. 659. Talmud [I don't know what edition Pascal used]
'It is a tradition among us, that, when the Messiah shall come, the house of God, destined for the dispensation of His Word, shall be full of filth and impurity; and that the wisdom of the scribes shall be corrupt and rotten. Those who shall be afraid to sin, shall be rejected by the people, and treated as senseless fools.'"
VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 23:37, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
If the anti-Christ will sit in the Temple in the end-times, as pre-millennials believe, than I suppose someone has to rebuild it. But the idea that Christians should get the end times rolling with a construction project in Jerusalem is a distinctly modern one. PeterKa (talk) 08:26, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

800,000,000 page views

We have now attained 800,000,000 page views! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 01:05, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
I posted it up! <big>Over<small>'''.'''</small>8 Billion page views!</big>'''
Maybe I can put this on my resume for a job with the DCCC or CNN. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:49, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Great humor, Rob. Congratulations to you and all the editors!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:08, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Biden 2008 versus Biden 2020

How did Biden manage to give a coherent acceptance given his well-advertised mental decline? Practice makes perfect. He gave essentially the same speech when he was nominated for vice president in 2008. Here is an amazing line-by-line comparison. "Alternative energy" has been updated to "clean energy." But whatever you call it, it's still going to give us "five million new jobs." How can it be the same number of jobs twelve years later? Because the number was always nonsense. You can spend money on anything and create jobs. I thought alternative energy/clean energy was supposed to prevent the Earth from burning up. PeterKa (talk) 13:54, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

If Democrats ever get full controls again they will:

  • Pass new environmental regulations that will ban most private vehicles, most forms of electrical generation, ban fracking and shoot gas prices through the roof.
  • Pass gun control laws that will effectively ban almost all private gun ownership
  • Put activist judges on all the courts that will never properly enforce the constitution again
  • Let in illegal immigrants completely unrestrained
  • Let criminals tear the country apart

Have I missed anything? Shobson20 (talk) 00:32, 23 August 2020 (EDT)

  • Put white males in gulag re-education camps. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:48, 23 August 2020 (EDT)
The DNC speakers had nothing at all to say about what was the biggest issue in the national politics until just a week ago: rioting against the police. They have apparently polled and focus grouped this issue and decided that it doesn't work anymore. I guess we can breathe a sigh of relief that another 1968 has been sidestepped. In the top battleground states, Trump is four points behind Biden. That's slightly better than how he was doing against Hillary at this point in 2016.[14]
BLM was created by Obama and my spin is that the riots were his big play. They didn't give him what he wanted. The convention didn't even give Biden a poll bounce. At this point, the best idea they have is to get a Texas pastor to tell us that Trump is going to hell because he is building a border wall. Perhaps he should read Nehemiah. This is a book of the Old Testament where the hero is a guy who rebuilds the Jerusalem city wall. PeterKa (talk) 02:23, 23 August 2020 (EDT)
These concerns are why we must keep the Senate. If the Democrats take over the upper chamber, they may try to eliminate the filibuster. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 08:52, 23 August 2020 (EDT)

NYU segregrates student dorms

I am old enough to remember when Kamala Harris accused Joe Biden of being a racist for supporting segregation. See "New York University moves to implement racial segregation in student dorms." One thing I learned from this article is that "safe space" is the new word for segregated. PeterKa (talk) 12:54, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

MPR medical question

If America swallowed the rancid smorgasbord that was the Democratic National Convention, what can we expect our symptoms to be, and when can we expect them to show? I am especially worried about trauma to the Legislative organ of the House of Representatives. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 23:05, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Main page news

2 notable things to place in the news column?

1. It should be clarified that the 600% larger Republican audience is on C-Span, and that these numbers are not representative of interest in the convention as a whole, as is implied by the news item.

2. A possible news item to include? TrumpConservative (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2020 (EDT)

Now on Fox News as well. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:36, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Media will announce Biden won, whatever the result

In 2016, the media was beyond overconfident that Hillary would win. To them, the only legitimate question was: Was her chance of winning 98 percent or 99 percent? Dems in the "Blue Wall" states certainly thought the outcome was predetermined, at least in their states. It seems that they had other important things to do on election day. The Greeks called this problem hubris. But the Dems don't see it as a problem at all. In fact, they plan to double down. Can the media give Biden the presidency simply by announcing that he won loudly and often enough? We are going to find out. See "Hillary Clinton Urges Joe Biden to ‘Not Concede’ on Election Day ‘Under Any Circumstances’." What Hillary is proposing is the end of democracy, at least in the sense of a system in which elections are allowed to decide major issues. PeterKa (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Minnesota district attorney of county where George Floyd died received word he OD'd on June 1

Filed in District Court
State of Minnesota
8/25/2020 3:36 PM

Community Prosecution Division


TO: State v. Eric Chauvin - file
FROM: Amy Sweasy
RE: Notes from conversation with Dr. Andrew Baker, Chief Hennepin County Medical Examiner
DATE: June 1, 2020

On May 31, 2020, at 7:30 p.m., Assistant Hennepin County Attorney Patrick Lofton and I met with Dr. Andrew Baker (AB) on Microsoft Teams. All three of us were in different locations. Dr. Baker said he had (and had recently received) the final toxicology results from Mr. George Floyd's samples which were analyzed by NMS labs.

AB shared his screen and showed us the results. He said that where it says, "Hospital Blood," those samples are from Mr. Floyd's hospital admission and were not acquired at autopsy. AB said that these samples are better for determining actual blood toxicity than samples taken at autopsy. Samples taken at autopsy may have undergone "post mortem distribution."

AB walked us down the list of substances for which NMS labs tested. Those values he highlighted were:

4ANPP -- A precursor and metabolite of fentanyl present in Mr. Floyd's blood.
Methamphetamine — 19 ng/ML which he described as "very near the low end" and "a stimulant hard on the heart."
Fentanyl — 11. He said, "that's pretty high." This level of fentanyl can cause pulmonary edema. Mr. Floyd's lungs were 2-3x their normal weight at autopsy. That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances.
Norfentanyl — 5.6 a metabolite of fentanyl.

Mr. Floyd's urine was tested for 4 things and are redundant, given the blood analysis. AB said, "the only thing that matters is what's in his blood."

AB said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 06:42, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

In the bag

Let's see what Trump needs to get 270 votes to win the election:

State category no. of votes running total Sen. incumb. nominee
Montana a-in the bag 3 votes Daines, Steve
Wyoming a-in the bag 3 votes Enzi, Michael B.
North Dakota a-in the bag 3 votes
South Dakota a-in the bag 3 votes Rounds, Mike
Idaho a-in the bag 4 votes Risch, James E.
Nebraska a-in the bag 5 votes Sasse, Ben
West Virginia a-in the bag 5 votes Capito, Shelley M.
Arkansas a-in the bag 6 votes Cotton, Tom
Utah a-in the bag 6 votes
Kansas a-in the bag 6 votes Roberts, Pat
Mississippi a-in the bag 6 votes Hyde-Smith, Cindy
Oklahoma a-in the bag 7 votes Inhofe, James M.
Louisiana a-in the bag 8 votes Cassidy, Bill
Kentucky a-in the bag 8 votes McConnell, Mitch
Alabama a-in the bag 9 votes Democrat
South Carolina a-in the bag 9 votes Graham, Lindsey
Indiana a-in the bag 11 votes
Tennessee a-in the bag 11 votes 113 votes Alexander, Lamar
Maine 2nd dist. b-loyal state 1 vote Collins, Susan
Alaska b-loyal state 3 votes Sullivan, Dan
Iowa b-loyal state 6 votes Ernst, Joni
Missouri b-loyal state 10 votes
Texas b-loyal state 38 votes 171 votes Cornyn, John
Georgia c-Trump ahead 16 votes Perdue, David
Ohio c-Trump ahead 18 votes 205 votes
Wisconsin d--leans Trump 10 votes
Arizona d--leans Trump 11 votes
North Carolina d-leans Trump 15 votes Tillis, Thom
Florida d-leans Trump 29 votes 270 votes
Minnesota e-toss-up 10 votes
Michigan e-toss-up 16 votes
Pennsylvania e+toss-up 20 votes
New Hampshire e-toss-up 4 votes Messner, Corky

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 09:47, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Plus Maine’s second district, which is one electoral vote. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:39, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
Thank you. I have adjusted the totals accordingly.
Following the Trafalgar poll with Trump ahead in Wisconsin, that state seems lean Trump. Florida seems to be a toss up for now. Thanks for the list though! New Hampshire could be included on the list as well. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:41, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
I made adjustments from your suggestions. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 12:15, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
Date of change change
August 28 Moved Wisconsin from "toss-up" to "leans Trump"
August 30 Moved Pennsylvania from "toss-up" tp "leans Trump"
August 31 Moved Pennsylvania from "leans Trump" to "toss-up"
September 18 Upgraded Pennsylvania to e+, upgraded Florida to d, added New Hampshire to "toss-up"

Tweetable quotable

This COVID mess is a great reminder that there’s nothing more permanent than "temporary" government intervention—Rogan O’Handley @DC_Draino, Aug 22, 2020
Media doing massive investigations and constant reports on QAnon, a small internet chat group no one's heard of, but hasn't spent one second examining B.L.M. or the 3 self proclaimed marxists who run it or what they've done with the $1.6 billion they have collected.—MARK SIMONE @MarkSimoneNY, Aug 23, 2020
Treat ordinary language like the law and it becomes the law.—@2CB, Aug. 27, 2020
Breaking News 2022: "New York City minister indicted on charges of being diagnosed with homophobia: faces 2 to 10 years in prison if convicted."
VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:12, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Great white defendant(s) candidates

Nobody drives to a city with guns because they love someone else’s business that much. That's some bulls---. No one thinks, "it's my solemn duty to pick up a rifle and protect T.J. Maxx." They do it because they’re hoping to shoot someone.—@Trevornoah
Here comes the tainting of the jury pool angle from the supremely empathetic party that can't even understand the motivations of its enemies.
"Nobody does things that are by definition lawful which I wouldn't do unless they have malice aforethought."—@2CB

"How ridiculous. Everybody likes the riots. It just happened to be what we all chose at exactly the same time. That's almost like a mandate. How does it just happen that this clown is not on board?!"

Flashback: Trevor Noah

A new comedian from South Africa, Trevor Noah, was hired to take Jon Stewart's place [as host of The Daily Show, known for its presentation of selective caricature against its political opponents to score partisan points]. He was found to have told some crude sexual jokes ridiculing women with reference to their being overweight or of a particular ethnicity. Noah responded to criticism by moralizing, beginning one statement with "To reduce [someone's] views to a handful of jokes that didn't land....," applying this description of this unfair practice to his own case. One man on Twitter completed his sentence, aptly remarking " your new job description, pal."—Conservapedia, "The Daily Show", §Trevor Noah

Other candidate: The four George Floyd cops, to be filed for prosecution by Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, if he doubles down to capital murder, whom Florida U.S. Rep. candidate Laura Loomer had exposed to have assaulted his wife as reported in his divorce court records.

Press 1 for circus 1
Press 2 for circus 2

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 11:37, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Hey, private security jobs are the only jobs available in an age of 10% unemployment and defunding the police during riots. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:42, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Wow, that's tough, Rob. But aren't you a little old for that line of work? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 12:01, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

I mean for 17 year old kids. Now take Chicago, for instance; because of their racist gun control laws, they deny the opportunity for 17 year old minority kids to defend their communities and businesses. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:17, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Are you crazy? That could fall into white hands. White people don't commit that many crimes, but when they do, boy are they ever guilty! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 12:39, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

It's the same Chicagoons who looted the downtown loop that burnt down Kenosha. Trust me. I'm from Southeastern Wisconsin. I grew up with Chicago hellraisers coming to Wisconsin every summer. Kenosha's 185 man police department can only put out maximum 90 cops in a 12 hour shift (leaving the rest of the city uncovered). They they not trained for riot control. One report says they asked for 2,000 guardsmen. By my estimates, you need one riot control officer for every 10 estimated rioters. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:22, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
  • Are the peaceful protesters looting T.J. Maxx again? Even Trevor Noah can't maintain the lies of the liberal media. It might be retail outlets today, but the rioters are working their way up to private homes. Andy Ngo has been videotaping Antifa gangs going through suburban neighborhoods attacking whoever they happen to encounter. After election day, we can expect renewed rioting. If there is one thing we have learned in the last few months, it's that Democrats love to riot. What can prevent the breakdown of civilization? We need a Republican sweep at all levels in the next election. It's either that or law enforcement by militia groups along the lines of Columbia or Lebanon. PeterKa (talk) 22:26, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
Someone said Democrats love to riot "during election years". I suspect Democrat leaders do not want national citizen organizations to form and then join together with police benevolence organizations to aid local police departments. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:50, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Where have you gone fat dog meme of 2016? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you...
Historically, I don't there was any connection between riots and presidential elections. The Ferguson riots were in 2014, the year of a midterm election. There was the Watts riot in 1965 and the Detroit riot in 1967. IMO, this year's riots are different. They are a warm-up for riots after a contested election. Like last time, the votes of noncitizens in California will allow Biden to claim a "victory in the popular vote". The incoming Congress will decide the validity of the Electoral College vote on January 6. So if we lose both the House and Senate, we've lost the presidency too. PeterKa (talk) 07:08, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
The question is moot! The MPR feed is supplied by conservative experts who have said the Democrats are scaling back already and obviously know what's going on. Though next year there may be protests at the dozens of federal trials held. I think you can expect to see Antifans running onto basketball courts during half-time with large banners reading "FREE THE KENOSHA 9!" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 07:09, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
The three shooting victims in Kenosha, all with criminal backgrounds, reveal they are anti-police, anti-law enforcement, and anti-criminal justice system more than anti-racist. Yes, Blacks may be a disproportionate number of people incarcerated, but the White frontline agitators and rioters are people with criminal records, axes-to-grind, and personal vendettas against society and the criminal justice system which locked them up and now discriminates against them because of their criminal records, and are not motivated by altruism and racial equality.
For example, the red-shirted convicted pedophile (a child under 12) who took a round in the head and spent many years in prison is almost certainly a member of the Aryan Nations prison gang. Prison culture is extraordinarily tribal and segregated. While there is respect between the tribes, there is little interaction or love between them. The only interaction is between tribal elders to negotiate peace and mutually assure younger tribe members will be disciplined and instructed to avoid and not interact with members outside their tribe. The red-shirted pedophile hated the white boy who shot him cause he represents the tax-paying law-and-order society that locked him up. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:57, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
I never said they were good candidates. As we get closer to the election with no candidates, they have to take what they can get! Indeed, as the truth trickles down, their candidacies may quickly fade! But you should have seen all the racial identity-shaping that was going on by leftists on Twitter! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:48, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

City of Kenosha, Wisconsin, Police Department press release, 1 hour, 57 minutes after RobS's claim

"During the early evening hours of August 26, 2020 Kenosha Police Department received a citizen tip alerting us to several suspicious vehicles with out of state plates meeting in a remote lot near State Highway 50 and Green Bay Road.
"Acting on this information Kenosha Police Officers located the suspicious vehicles and took up surveillance. Kenosha Police were assisted by the United States Marshals. The vehicles were a black school bus, bread truck and tan minivan. Kenosha police confirmed the out of state license plates.
"Police followed the vehicles to a gas station near Washington Road and 30th Avenue. Police observed the occupants of the black bus and bread truck exit and attempt to fill multiple fuel cans.
"Suspecting that the occupants of these vehicles were preparing for criminal activity related to the civil unrest, officers attempted to make contact and investigate. The officers exited the vehicles, identified themselves, were wearing appropriate identification, and then detained the occupants of the bus and bread truck.
"The minivan attempted to drive away; however, Kenosha police stopped this vehicle and ultimately forced entry to the minivan and arrested the occupants.
"The vehicles contained various items that included helmets, gas masks, protective vests, illegal fireworks, and suspected controlled substances. The 9 individuals were arrested for disorderly conduct and are pending charging decisions by the Kenosha County District Attorney."

Rob didn't mention that crossing state lines to participate in a riot (see his commentary at Talk:Main Page#The fastest way to end the riots) is a federal felony, and whoever conspired to do so is subject to even more jail time than that.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 02:19, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

BLM has $200 million. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 03:36, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Then what is Mark Simone talking about? Does this have to do with BLM giving money to or receiving money from ActBlue? Although Mark Simone is the type of person who would make up a detail if it would help him finish saying something funny. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:41, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
These rioters are in no way organic or spontaneous. They are well funded, trained, equipped, and supplied. They can make bail and get lawyers. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:34, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
...and unpopular. They just pushed Wisconsin into the "leans Trump" category.
But these are federal charges. In the link you told us they were too dumb to realize they could be traced, which is what the U.S. Marshalls apparently actually did!
Side note: Notice how Trump helped the Kenosha Police Department. This was because they asked him for help. The Kenosha police was assisted by the U.S. Marshalls.
You can't get probation for federal crimes, so if the mysterious presence of defense lawyers specializing in federal law doesn't finally break the façade of the "grass-roots" rioters myth, one of the protestors cracking and naming their handlers will!
That's why I am predicting a leftist groundswell of protesting the court cases. This is my one shot at "Conservapedia proven right", and I'm crossing my fingers that my confident swagger will pay off! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:35, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Not so fast. That was the first thing that popped out in the Kenosha P.D. statement, "pending charging decisions by the Kenosha County District Attorney". No mention of "pending charging decisions by the U.S. Attorney" despite highlighting the presence of U.S. Marshalls and out of state plates. That's somewhat odd and tells us there's more to the story behind the scenes. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:43, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
And another note, the U.S. Marshall rather than the FBI is a clue that federal law enforcement may be stretched a little thin right now. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:49, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
And this, "arrested for disorderly conduct". Yah, sure. Their National Lawyers Guild (who represent Portland rioters) attorneys will say they only intended to do some off-season deer hunting with Molotov cocktails to avoid federal charges. And since they never performed the act, disorderly conduct may be hard to make stick. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:03, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
I was praising you for your foresight in discerning the Wisconsin rioters were from out of state. I thought you then started to talk about the rioters in general like some of those who crossed state lines to riot in Oregon, Washington, Minnesota and Illinois. I was talking about that. But I suppose you are the most desirous of narrowing in on the culprits who appeared in your former home state.
I think the local police will charge them under Kenoshan Law while the Feds build their case...and then lower the boom.
Rob, if you watched more TV, you would know a little more about police procedure. That charge is to get them to jail. Then they work round the clock for 48 hours processing, tracing and piecing together all the evidence. Then the big-city lawyer shows up and demand they either release their clients or hold the arraignment. So they go to the arraignment and, surprise! A new, more serious charge based on a key piece of evidence the crooks overlooked hiding! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 10:13, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Compare what's happening in Kenosha with what's happening in districts with Soros D.A.'s. If, for example, the feds can make a case for Interstate whateveritis to incite riot, and the Kenosha D.A. releases the suspects, the feds then may move with federal charges; however, the feds also may have an ongoing cointel investigation in Chicago of a wider network they don't want compromised. Hence the preferability of locking up a few Illinoisians in Wisconsin on state charges.
Also, the bus. They likely transported more than just 9 people from Illinois. The 9 arrested are likely the more violent agitators and ringleaders. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:24, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
You can get a good picture how this "organizing" works; they get a bunch of kids from a church (black or white) in Chicago and say, "Hey kids, how would you like to march for social justice and Black Lives Matter in Kenosha?" The kids pile on the bus and get unloaded at the Kenosha courthouse at 10:00 AM. Meanwhile, the organizers load up Molotov cocktails and wait for dark. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:30, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Back to the $200 million. When the feds' cointel can trace money from Soros, Tom Steyer, Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, and Goodyear Tires to the purchase of materials to make Molotov cocktails, the corporate sponsors have enough clout to limit or kill the investigation. Depending on public outrage, you then may have to find some mid-level conspirator, like the 9 arrested or Kevin Clinesmith, as the fall guy. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:42, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Does anybody have a Telegram account? Check out this link and tell me what's in there. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:53, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Duh. I just realized it has a "Preview channel" link with all the minute by minute reports. This page had 364 members 2 days ago. It's over 600 now. The Remote Support Team evidently are monitoring police channels and transmitting moment by moment reports on police movements and locations. You can scroll back and find the events of the shootings 2 nights ago. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:00, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
They're all probably sobbing hysterically by now. "You realize if those kids don't all come home safe and sound, they're gonna give you the juice!" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 13:51, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Closure: That very Friday, the Kenosha nine were all released—without prejudice to the hundred other outside agitators who wrecked the town. Obviously Kenosha prosecutors thought the Kenosha nine (Riot Kitchen 206) were too miserable to even indict on further charges. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 18:56, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

New case in Kenosha

"A 17-year-old Hispanic juvenile drove across state lines to clean up graffiti from BLM/Occupy Mainstreet vandals, was assaulted by multiple criminals, and ended up killing two white people, one of whom was a convicted pedophile." @2CB VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 15:03, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

It may very well be that the inducement of this event is the closest thing to which we've come that was the one and only purpose of the rioting (as well as its politically-hysterical professed motivations that were really just designed to prevent the waves of assaults from losing their momentum). That is, the drivers of the riots sought to induce this event by means of their activities for a time, from its beginning to as long as they saw it would be necessary to take, before the riots they were driving would suffer a backlash of a size that would nullify their political value, and they would have to try again by other and/or later means.
Talk about your "social engineering"! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:51, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
(A) Do you think think the cops will ever be charged? (B) Do you think the kid's case will ever make it to inside a court room?
Now, what of redeeming value can we take from this case? (A) We witness a cop shoot somebody in the back 7 times and no charges filed; (B) we witness a minor assaulted by a criminal gang, standing over him and threatening him with a gun, flat on his back he fires in self defense, and the kid gets charged in 24 hours.
In other news, the cuffs have been taken off Jacob Blake. Looks like he won't be charged with resisting and criminal trespass. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:27, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
I couldn't believe he had survived. Are you aware Blake was armed and reaching for what could have been another weapon? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:25, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Looks like he's become a public charge now. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:28, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Look at the bright side - now that he'll be getting a Social Security disability check for the rest of his life, he can get a sex change operation. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:30, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
The kid was charged with six crimes, the first-degree murder charge alone carrying a life sentence. There's no going back. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:39, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Usage note to self: The county where Kenosha, Wisconsin resides is also called "Kenosha". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:49, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Yep. My grandpa used to own a gas station just a few miles down the same highway the shooting took place; my brother lives 3 blocks from the George Floyd shooting (I lived for a short while behind the Cub Food store that got burnt down in Minneapolis). Why me? I'm just glad God took me out of those sh*tholes. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:51, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, but what a story! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 19:34, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
According to the Reagan Battalion, on Twitter, Jacob Blake is anti-Ashkenazi Jews but pro-Semitic and Hamitic Jews! He also thinks Hitler and King Leopold are Jews. Though I'd be surprised if Biden blamed anyone but "white supremacists" when he shows up in Kenosha. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 19:51, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
If he wants to blame white supremacists in Kenosha, he can write off Wisconsin. The guy's so demented, I doubt his cognitive powers have failed that much, that there is no trade-off between sacrificing Wisconsin to speak to a national audience. His caregivers will be standing close by with a muzzle to look like face mask if he goes off script. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:22, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

L.A. shooting

Last nite the cops shot a black man on a bicycle and BLM sent out riot notices vis Twitter. Black helicopters appeared and people moreless stayed home. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:22, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Can we receive a dispensation from the Ten Commandments?

"Go ahead, be in denial. For the third time in this section CCC 2068 'the Ten Commandments are obligatory'. The law was only our schoolmaster."—Rob Smith, August 28, 2020

This question is harder than it looks.

If we have the New Law to eternal happiness, it presupposes a natural law to temporal happiness. That is summed up in the Ten Commandments.

Although that law never justified, it remains necessary for our temporal lives and takes the form of punishment.

Of course, any punishment is most painful at the time, and far from pleasant; but later, in those on whom it has been used, it bears fruit in peace and goodness. So hold up your limp arms and steady your trembling knees and smooth out the path you tread; then the injured limb will not be wrenched, it will grow strong again.—Hebrews 12:11-13

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:09, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

Well, here's where an understanding of grace and a changed life takes place. We become spiritually born and have faith in Christ cause we sincerely want to, not because we're under the threat of damnation for violations of the legal code.
This is what's meant by a "sincere heart". God's not gonna getcha for technical infractions. He knows we are flesh with weaknesses, and he can forgive. Out of our sincere heart, we must ask for forgiveness when we fall, and equally most important, must be willing to forgive others, as well.
What does it mean to "serve God?" That's fairly simple to answer. It simply means to love one another, forgive one another, not kill, rape, torture, abuse, envy, con, take advantage of, disrespect, etc etc etc your fellow creatures. We should be able to do this out of a willing heart, not because we are commanded to do so. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:02, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
God makes it pretty clear, my ways are not your ways, neither are my thoughts your thoughts; when the spiritual man (i.e. spiritually born or 'born again') begins seeing the world through God's eyes, he's no longer under law. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:23, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
It's self-will and pride that hinders people from walking the straight and narrow. Individuals and whole churches do it, beginning with the Roman Catholic Church and others. They simply refuse to surrender their pride to God. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:30, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
You're forgetting, however, that it was Jesus Christ himself who created the Catholic Church and even made Peter the first pope, which was even mentioned in Matthew 16:18. Besides, there's also the fact that God can outright destroy free will due to his omniscient and omnipotent nature, and he most certainly would have done that if he wanted to ensure people walked the straight and narrow. I know if I were in God's position, I'd be perfectly happy to rip free will away from people the very second Jesus died on the Cross, make them my puppets, for all eternity. Heck, technically he already did that with Jonah and the Whale. Jonah used free will to refuse to save a town and avoid it, yet God then sent a storm then a giant fish to eat him and deliver him and essentially force him to deliver salvation DESPITE his free will and pride. And quite frankly, when I see the world through God's eyes, I think of it like how the Patriots acted here: basically breaking lectures and truly reveling in his power and superiority over everyone. Do I like it? Not really, but that's what I see God's eyes as. And I see him as more the type to outright FORCE people to serve him, not even care about whether they are willing to serve him. Pokeria1 (talk) 16:39, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
The vessel was marred in the potter's hand. God is willing to take the blame for our faults. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:47, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Were you thinking of this Psalm (19)?
High above, he pitched a tent for the sun,
who comes out of his pavilion like a bridegroom,
exulting like a hero to run his race.
He has his rising on the edge of heaven,
the end of his course is its furthest edge,
and nothing can escape his heat.
But it goes on to say:
The Law of the Lord is perfect,
new life for the soul;
the decree of the Lord is trustworthy,
wisdom for the simple.
VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 17:35, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Biblehub has a short entry, How the Law was not Made for a Righteous Man, which I find useful. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:30, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Remember to hide your sources if you're trying to establish human resource policies in your organization based on repackaged radical leftist dogma

There is a civil war erupting at @SandiaLabs.

Following my investigation, a dissident electrical engineer named Casey Peterson emailed all 16,000 employees denouncing critical race theory in the lab and hoping to spark a rebellion against Sandia executives.

Here's the story. On Tuesday, Peterson made a YouTube video "pushing back back on the narrative of modern systemic racism and white privilege." The video quickly hit 10,000 views within the labs and dozens of Sandia employees contacted Peterson to express support.

Pushing Back on the Narrative of Modern Systemic Racism & White...
Definition of Critical Race Theory: “100 Things White People Can Do for Racial Justice” https://medium....

Within hours, Sandia executives dispatched a counterintelligence team to lock Peterson out of the network and scrub his communications from internal servers—which, via the Streisand Effect, made the video even more viral and sparked widespread unrest against Sandia executives.

By the afternoon, executives were panicking about the brewing rebellion, placed Peterson on paid administrative leave, and established a "security review board" to "evaluate whether [his] actions have comprised or posed a threat to Sandia computing and security systems."

Peterson—who took a stand at grave risk to his career—says he is speaking on behalf of all of Sandia employees who are "scared to speak out" because of the lab's repressive culture. "If I get fired because of this," Peterson says, "the fight does not end, it only intensifies." This is the first explicit rebellion against critical race theory in the federal government—and the coalition is growing. "We need to completely rip [critical race theory] out of Sandia root and stem," Peterson says. "It is cancer and we need to get it out of the labs right now."

Christopher F. Rufo @realchrisrufo

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 03:36, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

I saw that article but didn't have time to read it. Anything useful to add to critical race theory, even if just to make the article look up to date and current? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:37, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
Why not add something? We can cite Peterson as a source! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:23, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Go ahead. Do it. Be Bold. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:27, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

LiberalTears' admission

LiberalTears seems to be attached to some security issue here. I just want to say that although I'm not taking any action with regard to his continued editing, that doesn't mean I consent to accepting to his explanation for his behavior. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 03:47, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with content for the Main Page. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 13:55, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
Now now children, play nice. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:38, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

It's come to this

NYT must have gotten the call about how "undecided moderate likely voters" are perceiving this whole "masked gangs of people burning stuff down repeatedly" and had to engage in the unfamiliar activity of "accurately reporting what transpired at an event."—overheard on Twitter

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 04:29, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Kenosha nine

...came all the way from Seattle, not Chicago! (Surprise!) VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 08:32, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

They're an organization called "Riot Kitchen 206". Despite the presence of the para-military gear, their organization supported them, leading many people to believe they are racketeers. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 13:37, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

The now-defunct @riotribs also gave donations to an anonymous group to purchase lacrosse sticks. US Marshals said that people use lacrosse sticks to launch projectiles at the building & officers.
Riot Ribs gave $25,000 to the Seattle-based "Riot Kitchen 206." Money raised online ostensibly for "free food" in Portland was then pass[ed] across state lines to fund other projects. One of the ways organizers have been keeping riots ongoing is the promise of food & supplies.
Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgo, August 1, 2020

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 13:48, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

So, we can presume there may be federal charges in the offing? or are they "following the money trail" to Ben & Jerry's?
It's interesting. One would think AI and facial recognition could review hundreds of hours of video from Portland, Denver, L.A., Minneapolis, Chicago, and elsewhere fairly quickly. Sure, it may take some time for humans to review matches, but the delays are probably caused by FinCEN and/or getting somebody to cooperate. Any word if they are still in custody? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:52, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
I can't tell you that. But a photographer who tourned Kenosha said: "Every single local I spoke to blamed "out of towners" for the worst of the destruction. They didn't offer a huge amount of evidence for this, but it's a blanket consensus."
I'm still interested in the bus. Buses eat a lot of gas and aren't that fast. Was the bus converted to living quarters? It's hard to believe 2 or 3 guys drove a bus across the Western U.S. just to transport empty bottles for Molotov cocktails.
The rioting I think is closely related to methamphetamine use, and the looting is to pay for meth. This is the future Democrats promise. Once all the stores are burnt down and jobs destroyed, there will be no resources left to pay for meth. That, coupled with rising demand, does not bode well for meth prices. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:43, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
"It wasn't a bus, it was a food truck."
"Could be a case of mistaken identity. They were probably looking for the Peaceful Protest Kitchen."
You can follow this, and I'd imagine other equally stupid interactions at @riotkitchen206. At least the terrorists at @riotribs had the dignity to shutter their Twitter account. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:54, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Twitter is already a hot-bed of sarcastic hostility, but when it involves persons who are potential suspects in violent conspiracies posting, it can turn into a scary mudpit or tarpit and make the feds' jobs harder for them. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 19:51, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Kenosha P.D. episode 6: going through the motions

Apparently an observer near the Rittenhouse events said Kenosha P.D. set up Rittenhouse and his friends and not only dispersed the after-curfew rioters toward them, but said they were going to so that Kyle's group could "take care of them". I realized this is an understated section title, but frankly I'm pretty shocked and fearful for the safety of the informers. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 11:56, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Thankfully, this has been called into doubt, and in fact the claimant may be in big trouble. He associated the well-known liberal who repeated his claim with the "alt-right", and the source he named from which he said he obtained the story did not show the story at the link he gave. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 13:37, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
There evidently was some interaction between Rittenhouse and the cops or guard before hand. Also, the alleged "confrontation" minutes earlier at the gas station has been misrepresented; BLM and some libertarian elements share a common distrust of government which was being negotiated. The criminal elements on the BLM side, i.e. the dead pedophile, got out of hand. That's to be expected in any anarchical situation.
Barnes here in a Viva Frei discussion graduated from UW law school, practiced law in Wisconsin, sued many cops, lived in the Racine/Kenosha/Walworth County area, knows Wisconsin law and gun laws, says Rittenhouse has no chance of being convicted by a jury, if it ever even gets that far.
So it's political; the Democrat mayor and prosecutor's jobs are on the line. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:15, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Back to you...

Kenosha P.D. in fact arrested 102 outside agitators, not just the 9 out-of-state ones! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 18:49, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Here's an example of the Marxist community organizers from DSA's failure in understanding demographics and demography. They funneled in excess revolutionaries from other riot centers, Chicago, Michigan, Kansas City, Seattle and Portland, without understanding how these out-of-towners stick out like a sore thumb in a Midwestern town of 100,000. Even in Mpls, a city of over 2 million, the local protesters quickly recognized out-of-town agitators. It doesn't take many of them to set off a riot.
Again, it's a political problem for elected officials and alleged local "peaceful protesters". They must quickly disassociate themselves from the ideological cause - and here I'm more referring to the young people involved in alleged "protests" - or suffer being ostracized longterm. But the train may have left the station on that problem already. Just as people ridicule and mock old time hippies and flowerchildren 5 decades later, that's what's in store for anyone associated with BLM. It was a cute, racist move, by the white liberal slave masters, leaving Blacks to catch hell and the blame when the history is written. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:33, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Biden is slipping

The Dems have determined that they are on track to losing the election. How can we tell? Because they have started blaming Trump for "inciting" protester violence. When they thought they were winning, they weren't just inciting violence. The riots were their ticket to the White House, and they were raising money for BLM.

Harris is still calling for riots. This is what she recently told Colbert: “They’re not going to stop. This is a movement. I’m telling you they’re not going to stop, and everyone beware because they are not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they’re not going to stop after election day, and everyone should take note of that on both levels that they’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not."[15] You can't appease the rioters by voting for Biden. Harris will give us more riots if elected -- that's a campaign promise.

For four days, Dems told us what they thought at the DNC. But no one dared to say anything that might hurt the feelings of rioters, Antifa, or BLM. That strategy seems to have backfired. Biden didn't even get the traditional "post-convention bounce." The RNC doesn't seem to have changed anyone's mind. The DNC was enough to turn it around. Trump is now almost two percentage points ahead of where he was in 2016 at this time.[16] Before the riots, Trump was doing pretty well in the polls. To believe that Biden has a chance, you have to think that a significant number of people will vote for him because of the riots. PeterKa (talk) 23:22, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Another thing to note is that the election predictions (like Cook Political Report) are currently making the same mistakes as they did in 2016 and thinking that they'll be correct this time (which is insanity). Also, the polling organizations thought in 2016 that independents would lean Democrat in swing states like Michigan, and the exit polling showed that they leaned Republican. Now the polls either admit that independents lean Republican and over-weigh Democrats in the sample or simply find one skewed to the left. The latter case is quite common, probably because most conservatives aren't going to spend a long time answering questions for fake polling companies like Public Policy Polling (PPP). —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Monday, 23:38, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
"This will be exposed as the most mistakenly overconfident launch of a major party campaign for the White House since the renomination of Governor Thomas Dewey of New York against President Harry Truman in 1948. The combination of the two sequential conventions and the performance of the Democratic press in covering them will be a shattering blow to the Democratic strategists who retrieved Joe Biden and Kamala Harris from the prenomination ash heap and put them forward as a respectable camouflage for the party’s outright Marxist program.
"Whatever possessed them to imagine that they could avoid any comment on the most widespread and most destructive urban rioting in America in over 50 years, could lay the public health crisis entirely upon the president, could maintain their advocacy of an immigration policy that would ultimately result in every poverty-stricken person in the world moving to the United States, while ignoring this administration’s reduction of illegal immigration by 90 percent; all of this and many other issues will be as much a matter of interest to psychiatrists as to historians....
"Mr. Biden made a catastrophic error in promising to shut down the country if the coronavirus could not be exterminated, and he will not be allowed to forget it. And the Republicans hung the urban rioting and corrupt Democratic municipal misgovernment around Mr. Biden’s neck like a putrid albatross....
"It was indicative of the dilapidation of Democratic confidence that their nominees went before television cameras and minimal numbers of viewers on Thursday afternoon, trying to preempt what they had finally realized would be a heavy blow from the president on Thursday evening. Mr. Biden attacked urban violence directly and let it be known that he would campaign in some of the so-called battleground states.
"The Democratic National Committee, though, issued an unimaginably fatuous complaint as the Republicans closed with one of the greatest fireworks displays in American history over the Washington Monument that the absence of precautions against COVID-19 for the president’s speech was illustrative of his “complete corruption.”
"Their campaign of terror about the pandemic has failed with Biden’s quasi-promise to shut down the country again. They will pay for their ambiguity about urban violence and their encouragement of defunding of police forces. Their cleverest and most egregious strategist, David Axelrod, whined that the Republicans were verging on racism by upholding the police (though most newsworthy police chiefs are black).
"The Democratic convention was full of gloom and national self-criticism and nominated relatively unfrightening figureheads and the Republican convention exposed this as scaffolding for a giant pustule of policy extremism, and countered with a comprehensive and optimistic program. “Orange Man Bad” won’t do it; this is a choice between a quavering geriatric mediocrity riding a mad tiger and an unabashed impresario who, like him or not, is a great star.
..."this president will be reelected, and he will finally enjoy a honeymoon and be the only chief executive in U.S. history whose second term was more successful than his first." [17] RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:42, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Your mention of Dewey and Truman reminds me of this meme related to the 2016 U.S. presidential election... —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Monday, 01:00, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
All the passing back and forth—Pelosi: I don't think he should debate; Biden: I've got to debate to tell the American people the truth that's being covered up!—is a bunch of B.S. Biden has been preparing for this debate for the last 30 years and has been keeping up with events daily. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 02:36, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
I hope that's really Trump on his Twitter account, and that he's been using the extra time he gets from his policy of not enabling or saving the banana states from themselves to shadow-box in the same way, using the ideas his advisers give him to fill the gaps in his knowledge. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 03:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Peak Biden was on August 5. He was ahead in the betting odds by 60.9 to 36.9. Every day since has been a bad day for Biden. A week ago, he was 12 points ahead in the betting odds. Now the gap is down to two points. See here. PeterKa (talk) 04:15, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Maybe you're right. Maybe he still has good technical debating skills but through corruption has become completely incapable of saying anything to denounce conservatism in an eloquent way. Although privately, Khrushschev trounced Kennedy. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
August 28, 2020 was a good day for Biden. He rose in the polls 1.3%. So it can happen. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

The way the polls are trending, Biden should be down in a week or so. Biden has been going down and Trump steadily improving for a while now. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

What we are seeing now is pubic opinion reverting to the pre-riot mean. But I am hoping that at least some Democrats are willing to break with their party over the riot issue. There certainly weren't any of those at the convention. Andrew Sullivan has been writing blog posts critical of the riots. I noticed that the NYT has started denouncing Sullivan as a racist and a conservative. Obama's favorite blogger is a racist and a conservative? I had look at what he'd been writing to figure out what was going on. PeterKa (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Putin strikes back

It doesn't matter which way the polls are "trending" if an event like Biden pinching Trump in the debates occurs. That's the whole point—the trend could reverse!

Even Trump's friend Putin...Putin, Putin what are you doing? Attacked U.S. troops in Syria. No Russian has ever done that. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:21, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Are you talking about the video of Russians and Americans playing bumpers cars? [18] That was funny! RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:34, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
When you see a Hummer side by side with a Russian vehicle, there isn't much to worry about. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:35, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Fox News: Trump outperforming his 2016 campaign

"And Trump is largely outperforming his 2016 benchmarks in some of the most important states to the Electoral College."


Trump's efforts to label what is happening in major cities as "riots" speaks at least somewhat to his desperation, politically speaking, at the moment—Chris Cillizza @CillizzaCNN (August 30, 2020) 6:34 pm

"I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same." Joe Biden forcefully condemned the violent protests that took one life in Portland on Saturday.— (August 31, 2020) 6:11 am

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:06, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Didn't Biden want to take Trump behind the barn and beat the hell out of him? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Stop the violence. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:23, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Note to Democrats: Silence is violence. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:32, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

U.S. Chamber of Snakes

The "U.S. Chamber of Commerce" which sounds like a government agency but isn't, are endorsing the far-left Democrats in 2020.

You'll remember they tried (and in some places succeeded) to take over the Conservative Political Action Conference. Hey, I guess they're not that conservative after all. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 17:44, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

They're globalists. They, and the congressmen they own, formed the backbone of resistance to Trump from the beginning. They don't want to lose the China market. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:44, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
The Senate majority may be endangered by this development. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:47, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Endangered in what sense? being Republican controlled or globalist controlled? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:16, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce regularly drops $3,000,000 in ads a piece obliquely supporting the Senate candidates of their choice (as a superPAC). VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 11:22, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Yes. While the NRA may be the largest lobbying group in terms of members, The CoC is the largest in dollars. THis has formed the backbone of of the GOP lobbying for over half a century. But the Clinton's and the DLC began making inroads into CoC money in the 1990s, and they bought-off Obama through health insurers and Big Pharma. CoC money essentially makes up the Uniparty. CoC = Wall Street. Democrats = Wall Street globalist slave masters + dependent identity politics groups. GOP = Main Street + populists.
article from yesterday, a short read, explains the current transitioning pretty good, using Minnesota's Iron Range as the example. It's not just a good introduction into Minnesota politics, it gives a good picture of he current Democrat party. In Minnesota, you have unemployed rural redneck Democrats coupled with anti0American radical socialists like Ilhan Omar and Keith Ellison. That marriage won't last another election cycle. And this Democrat coalition between rural and urban has existed til now for over 100 years. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:48, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Here's another: The Hidden Alliance Has Merged – U.S. Chamber of Commerce Merge Policy With Big Labor Unions To Support $15/Hr Minimum Wage: "Now that Wall Street’s U.S. Chamber of Commerce has dropped their mask, we see decepticon Tom Donohue align with corrupt labor union leader Richard Trumka. The dark-forces now align to retain personal power, increase their own wealth, diminish Main Street, and win the 2020 election at all costs...." RobSFree Kyle! 17:47, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Biden and fracking

Biden is all for fracking. If you say he is against it, you are "repeating Donald Trump lies about me." At least what he told voters in Pittsburgh today. See "Biden: 'I am not banning fracking'" What are we make of this reel of Biden vowing to end fracking, many, many times? This lie is almost as brazen as when Elizabeth Warren claimed to be an American Indian. Maybe he should talk to Harris. This story is from only two weeks ago: "The Selection Of Kamala Harris Cements Joe Biden’s Fracking Ban Credentials." PeterKa (talk) 02:51, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

"I want you to look in my eyes. I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuels."[19] What does Biden mean here? Are we going Amish? Time to start breeding horses and stocking up on buggy whips? Sorting out all these conflicting and nonsensical promises will never be Biden's problem. PeterKa (talk) 03:55, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
He means he wants to make America dependent on Vladimir Putin and MBS for energy. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 04:04, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
He means he will try to force motor vehicle manufactures to stop using the internal combustion engine like they're doing in France. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:45, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, I suspect what Biden is really talking about is electric cars. In France, the electricity is from nuclear power. But in the U.S., the power would presumably come from coal or natural gas. PeterKa (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

The left is a culture, not a political movement

The left is a culture, not a political movement. Thus it seeks intellectual figureheads to deliver homilies & adopts in-group jargon with shifting meanings that alienate outsiders. The figureheads maintain a sense of superiority and the jargon maintains solidarity. @2CB

VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:53, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Two kinds of truth

One of the hallmarks of the left is moral relativity or non-cognitive ethics.

Here is a good solution for refuting these. There are actually two kinds of truth, descriptive and prescriptive. A descriptive truth makes a judgment that is faithful to reality. While a prescriptive truth makes a judgment which is faithful to right desire [that is, whether or not the desire really exists or not], but both make use of logic. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 13:16, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

But then again

Moral (or cultural) relativity may have always been just a tactic for liberal elites. Ethical analysis serves as a "court of appeals" for the educated few, and liberals would feel they need to take control of that court for when the occasion arises and selectively ignore it in practical politics when channeling their followers emotional drives into political activity. Of course that implies their non-relative moral "principles" are really just strong emotional attachments that are only resolved by practical political victory. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 05:42, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Back up to bat: Ten Commandments

Thesis: The New Law is primarily to reconcile man and God, while the Ten Commandments were intended to secure friendship between man and man. Yet, by accepting God's grace through Christ, that grace will allow us to fulfill the very commandments man was unable to, which are necessary to maintain friendship between man and man. In his teachings, Christ also expressed "spiritualized" versions of the Ten Commandments that take the character of love of God sooner than the character of commandments, making them easier to bear. Therefore they remain duties but not drudgeries. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 11:55, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

The ten commandments teach how God thinks, and each one goes against our natural instincts. God will send no one to hell for violating the Ten Commandments; God will send anyone to hell who rejects the grace offered through Christ. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

2008 replay

If Biden upsets Trump in the debate, it will energize his base the way Sarah Palin infused youthful energy into McCain's campaign in 2008 because of her speech at the Republican National Convention. I would predict at least a ten-point boost. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 12:24, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Joseph Mifsud 302 is out

-February 11, 2017

Mifsud said he had no advance knowledge Russia had DNC emails and did not make any offer to Papadopoulos

A very short interview for a purported "Russian agent"

Mueller's Report played-up Mifsud's "connections to Russia."

At the interview, the FBI didn't bother to ask many questions about those "connections."

No follow-up questions about emails.

Now we can see why there were zero references to the Mifsud 302 in Mueller's Report.

Mueller allegation: George Papadopoulos "lies" about if he was w/ Trump campaign during Mifsud meeting impeded their ability to question Mifsud.
The problem: Mifsud himself told the FBI that George was w/ Trump campaign when they met.

One last thing - the Special Counsel's dishonesty to the court.

Representation: @GeorgePapa19 prevented FBI from getting to the bottom of the Mifsud story.
Reality: the FBI asked few questions of Mifsud, was getting emails from Mifsud, and chose to not follow-up with Mifsud.


Mueller team intentionally misled court, in court filings claimed George P hindered FBI investigation. Fact: George offered to help FBI find Mifsud, even said he'd be in DC Feb 2017, when they interviewed Mifsud. SCO lawyers who signed those docs should be in trouble.—Lee Smith

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 08:27, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Did the FBI ask Italian intelligence what they knew about Mifsud? If he was really a Russian agent teaching in Rome, the Italians would presumably keep track of him. It seems that the FBI didn't want know what Mifsud was really up to. The less they knew, the more freedom they had to make stuff up. PeterKa (talk) 09:09, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Mifsud was probably hired by Halper. Halper was working with John Brennan and Richard Dearlove.
This whole comedy of errors once again proves the utter amateurishness of Americans in the game of espionage. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:24, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
George Papadopoulos replies: "Don't focus on the trees and forget the forest. This won't be the last time we hear about Mifsud. It was information given about Mifsud from Italian officials that launched Durham's criminal probe. Italy is with us.
"Mifsud has not gone underground for 2 years because of a 'misunderstanding.'" VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 14:44, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
So it's more evidence the Mueller Report is bunk. I'm vindicated. I never created a Mueller Report page cause I knew the whole thing would have to be re-written (pity the poor chumps at Ratwiki - they've earned their title as "fake news now.) RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:01, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

On May 13, 2019, John H. Durham, United States Attorney for the District of Connecticut, was appointed by Attorney General Robert Barr "to conduct a comprehensive investigation of counterintelligence decisions made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the context of the 2016 presidential election."

If Mifsud talking to Papadopoulos was the genesis of Crossfire Hurricane, why did it take 6 and 7 months to interview the two of them? What is in the 4 CH files the FBI was working on from July - Jan.? A guess: they were focused on Page (Steele dossier) and Flynn.
George P: "This goes way before crossfire. We will learn that there was political monitoring going back to at least March 2016." 16:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Better yet, why was a KGB agent who tried to destroy American democracy a featured State Department speaker when the FBI interviewed him in February 2017? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
As to The information from the Italian government, it was confirmation Mifsud was an Italian citizen who worked for NATO. Brennan would have known that, but Brennan told Congress P'dop was meeting with a KGB agent. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:58, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
The pollical monitoring (at least in the Trump and Flynn case) began about November 2015. About the same time Nellie Ohr was hired by FusionGPS, and Flynn, Mifsud, and Jill Stein dinned with Putin in December in Moscow. Flynn was always the main target, not Trump. What's unknown is when exactly Flynn began briefing Trump on Obama intelligence community affairs. And that information resides in the Trump camp. I have good evidence it was before New Years Day, 2016. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:05, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Read the entries on the Obamagate timeline 2015 from December (and late November 2015). It's short, but eyeopening for much what happened later. This is where "OCONUS" (outside continental United States) "lures" first appears. Also, Mifsud & P'dop hired in London at the same place at this time; but sources say they didn't meet until about March 2016. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:11, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

The eleven commandments

  1. Examine the evidence used and gathered in the FBI's investigation of four Americans as part the FBl's Russia investigation
  2. Examine the timing of Christopher Steele's initial FBI contacts and the initiation of the Russia investigation
  3. Examine how the FBI verified information in the Steele dossier before presenting it to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC)
  4. Examine whether the FBI conveyed Steele's bias against Donald Trump to the FISC
  5. Examine whether the FBI compensated Steele for his work as a human source
  6. Examine the timing and circumstances of Steele's termination as an FBI source
  7. Examine the FBI's awareness that the DNC indirectly financed the Steele dossier
  8. Examine the FBI's receipt and use of information provided by Perkins Coie attorney Michael Sussmann
  9. Examine the FBI's reliance on information from Christopher Steele—via Bruce Ohr—following Steele's termination as a human source
  10. Examine the roles played by Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan Halper, and Azra Turk
  11. Examine whether other federal agencies were involved in or aware of the FBI's Russia investigation

Reps. Jim Jordan/Mark Meadows, MAGA

Michael Sussmann may be a communist. He ran for New York Attorney General as a member of the Green Party. VM

In May 2020, it was revealed he said Comey refused to investigate the DNC servers, the opposite of the story that the DNC refused to allow their servers to be examined! VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 18:58, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Bill Binney was taken off the air in the midst of livestream by Reddit yesterday. He's one the experts who determined the DNC breach was internal. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:36, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
PeterKa proven right (The less [the FBI] knew, the more freedom they had to make stuff up [about Russia])! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 08:16, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Deep State conspirators had two primary objects; defeating Trump became a parallel objective later. The first two were (1) CYA for illegal spying (FISA 702 abuse) going back to mid 2012 (slightly before the Benghazi massacre; Snowden revealed all in 2014) and (2) silence Flynn who knew of the illegal activities and was fired in mid 2014. Flynn knew where the bodies were buried and they were scared witless with Flynn as NS Advisor. The Mueller appointment and Mueller investigation were to carryout these same objectives - cover up of Obama admin illegal spying. RobSFree Kyle! 12:43, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Flynn was working within the system to reform and expose the corruption; Snowden went outside the system. But the basic facts apply to both. RobSFree Kyle! 12:46, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Crossfire Hurricane was predicated on Hillary winning; the insurance policy became the Mueller probe. RobSFree Kyle! 12:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
DEVELOPING: Kevin Clinesmith committed his crime of forging FISA email under Andrew Weissmann's direction. He altered evidence AFTER Mueller had appointed Weissmann as his chief prosecutor in early June 2017 [on June 19, 2017 VM]. At the time, Clinesmith was reassigned to Special Counsel, i.e. Weissmann's team.—Paul Sperry VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:46, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
So Weissmann and his FBI and other deep state bosses went where they weren't supposed to and kept looking and looking and looking.... I hope you took a good look, Weissmann, because it's going to cost you the election! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 18:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
The Mueller probe was never intended to investigate Russia collusion - the FBI knew it didn't exist on January 4, 2017 - the day before the Oval Office meeting with Biden, Rice, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Yates in attendance. The Mueller probe was intended to cover up Obama admin abuses, in which Rod Rosenstein then became complicit. The Mueller probe shielded DOJ & the FBI from Devin Nunes and Congressional subpeaoneas, and helped flip the House to the Democrats in 2018. The Uniparty at work. The Clinesmith guilty plea, and the James Wolfe indictment show SSCI complicity (a separation of powers problem in prosecuting legislators for classified leaks) in Deep State coup 1.0.
Motive for the Deep State coup? (A) protection of NATO and the military industrial complex; (B) protection of the U.S. Chamber of Congress and China trade. RobSFree Kyle! 19:10, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections; the Mueller team did interfere in the 2018 Midterms. RobSFree Kyle! 19:11, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Yes! "Cover up Obama admin abuse" by means of looking for misconduct of every stripe through the use of illegal spying! To them:
Loving the country's a big crime...
Trump's been guilty a long time!
VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 19:40, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Read what Daniel Ellsberg said [20] during the Snowden incident, cause that is exactly what's happening now, and that's what Flynn was going to expose and reform:
"Do they really believe that real democracy is viable, when one branch of government, the Executive, knows or can know every detail of every private communication (or credit card transaction, or movement) of: every journalist; every source to every journalist; every member of Congress and their staffs; every judge, at every level up to the Supreme Court? Do they think that every one of these people "has nothing to hide," nothing that could be used to blackmail them or manipulate them, or neutralize their dissent to Executive policies, or influence voting behavior? Is investigative journalism, or aggressive Congressional investigation of the Executive, or court restraints on Executive practices, really possible with that amount of transparency to the Executive of their private and professional lives and associations? And without any of those checks, the kind of democracy you have is that of the German Democratic Republic in East Germany, with its Stasi (which had a minuscule fraction of the surveillance capability the NSA has now, but enough to turn a fraction of the population of East Germany into secret Stasi informants)."
RobSFree Kyle! 20:14, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
George Papadopoulos: "All @ODNIgov needs to do is declassify which foreign ally/organization was handling Joseph Mifsud when he was introduced to me by high level Italian officials as well as individuals we now know were connected to UK intelligence.
"This act will singlehandedly upend the old narrative."—(Sept. 4, 2020) VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 17:22, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
"Can’t wait for it to be revealed that the meeting with the Clinton errand boy, Alexander Downer, was recorded and a set up. Will make the Halper meetings look like small potatoes."—GP (Sept. 5, 2020)

First Weissmann, now Goldstein

According to a court document presented by the Al-bab blog, written by the Mueller Investigation and signed by one of its chief prosecutors, Andrew Goldstein, Mifsud claimed to have access to Hillary Clinton's emails.[1] But in the record of Mifsud's FBI interview (the Form 302 summary), on February 11, 2017, he said he had no advance knowledge Russia had DNC emails and did not make any offer to Papadopoulos. The e-mail documents were released on Wikileaks.

RobS full Obamagate story bearing fruit

DEVELOPING: Investigators have learned that Obama CIA Director John Brennan ran a secret task force out of Langley with its own separate budget to investigate Trump campaign and alleged ties to Russia. Task force set up before FBI officially launched its own probe on 07/31/16—Paul Sperry (@paulsperry) September 7, 2020.

George Papadopoulos: I always explained that the CIA and foreign intelligence spying on me abroad is where the action always was and will remain as the new investigations ramp up. (September 8, 2020).

RobS always insisted there was an early start to Obamagate, and now the details are being revealed. William Barr and Durham themselves already confirmed it started much earlier than July 2016.

I'd like to get the date when Durham received Italian intelligence, and his investigation turned into a criminal probe. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 15:08, 8 September 2020 (EDT)

Everybody mad at Bill Binney now

"(15) Re Muller team deleting text msgs: This won't do. If gov wants those msgs, all they have to do is go to NSA Stellarwind data base and pull them out as all sms going over the cell network are captured & stored forever. @DevinNunes knows this. @FoxNews"—Sept. 14, 2020.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 03:38, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Please put this very important detail on MPR

Can someone with the "Administrator" tag please put the following below the line on MPR (excluding my signature)? Thanks!

BREAKING: Gun sales continue to SOAR as Americans who witness the violent 2020 Leftwing insurrection reject the notion of gun control. [21]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 15:37, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

It's a Women's rights issue; I heard somewhere the majority of new purchases are female. We need to begin merging gun rights into the women's right's narrative. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:41, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you very much RobSmith for posting it on MPR! Also, yes, you're right about gun rights being a women's rights issue; this PragerU video by Katie Pavlich sums it up well. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Thursday, 22:48, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Can we find a link that says women are the primary purchasers of guns in 2020? RobSFree Kyle! 12:50, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
I'm not entirely sure about women being the primary purchasers; according to here, they make up 40% of new gun owners, and this source seems interesting as well. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Thursday, 14:36, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
That's the story. Women are taking the lead in signing up for gun shooting classes. We need to meld the three ideas into one sentence: (a) the gun boom; (b) women's rights; (c) women taking the lead in training classes. RobSFree Kyle! 14:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
There's several ways this can go; and we can use ideas developed here over the coming weeks. Something along the line of:
Women's rights and equality: while Democrats seek to abolish the 2nd Amendment, more women are signing up for shooting classes, or
women take the lead in signing up....', or
more women are buying guns and signing up...., etc. RobSFree Kyle! 14:54, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

Sex with a mask, eh?

The CDC has admitted that covid-19 has killed only 9,000 Americans.[22] Will the country finally calm down about the virus? Frankly, the hysteria has always had less to do with the disease itself than with the upcoming election. But you Canadians can't vote, so enough already. This is Reuters: "Wear a mask while having sex, Canada's top doctor suggests." Yes, Canadian women can now break out a cigarette and ask, who was that masked man? PeterKa (talk) 11:13, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

Headline ideas for MPR

Here are three ideas for very recent news to post on MPR:

Americans are not impressed with Salongate. [23]

More mostly peaceful protesters storm restaurants, break glass [24], and climb onto people's homes. [25]

Setting back the agenda of race-baiters: Trump orders the end of critical race theory in training for federal agencies. [26]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 00:34, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

We got a Salongate article? Good. Looks like a bigger impact and more staying power than expected. RobSFree Kyle! 10:37, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you for putting these headlines on MPR, RobSmith! Also, about Salongate, I redirected the page to Nancy Pelosi, since the detail is above TOC for the latter, but I could turn it into a separate content page, seeing as there's plenty of information surrounding the matter. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 12:52, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

What happens after the election?

This year's matchup polls are pretty much in line with those taken in 2016. I assume the riots will motivate Trump voters, regardless of how they feel about Trump personally. Biden has run numerous times for various positions and has always proven to be a singularly uninspiring candidate. Republicans can show up to do their civic duty, but Dems need a candidate who inspires them. So they have come up with a new strategy: massive mail ballot cheating combined threats of riots and a military coup if you dare to call them on said cheating.

Hillary, Harris, and other Dems have indicated that they won't accept defeat and will fight on after the election. They is also talk of a military coup, or "coup porn," as Byron York called it. Biden has repeatedly stated that the military will drag Trump out of the White House on January 21. This situation would arise only if there is a nightmare dispute concerning the outcome of the election, something Biden apparently has no problem subjecting the country to.

Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, has stated that the military will play "no role" in the election. But Milley has already shot down Trump's attempt to invoke the Insurrection Act. This act gives the president the authority use troops against the rioters, even if that means overruling the relevant governor. It's unlikely that the military will actually intervene. So why is Biden and others talking about it? By talking up the most extreme option, they are making anything short of a military coup sound moderate.

What could realistically happen? In California and several other states, the voting process is corrupted with non-citizens on the rolls and ballot harvesting. That these states will give their Electoral College votes to Biden is a given. They can pump up their popular vote totals and allow Biden to claim a "popular vote victory," as Hillary did in 2016. The MSM will proclaim Biden the real winner and Twitter will close Trump's account. The Constitution says that Electoral College votes must be counted by Congress. The only time this kind of dispute went to Congress before was in 1876. See "The Coming Coup?" by Michael Anton.

The House is expected to remain Democrat. RCP is predicting a 51-49 Dem majority in the U.S. Senate. Everything comes down to the Senate races in Georgia, Montana, Colorado, and Iowa. Minnesota is on course to electing a Democrat, despite the rioting.[27] PeterKa (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Unresolved election disputes and litigation in House elections could lead to not enough members to make a quorum in the House.RobSFree Kyle! 10:34, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
I'm even more convinced Biden is putting on an act and is looking to sucker-punch Trump in the debates. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 13:57, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Here is the August 11 article by former generals John Nagl and Paul Yingling that got all this coup talk started. I have reason to doubt the coup plotting abilities of this pair. They don't seem to understand how the transition will work.
The governor of each state sends the Electoral College total for his state to the vice president, who counts the votes before Congress on January 6. This is the newly elected Congress, which is sworn in on January 3. The vice president will go through the states in alphabetical order. If both chambers object, the state's vote is not counted. Otherwise, Congress certifies the vice president's count.
Nagl and Yingling wrongly claim that the outgoing Congress will count the votes. This was changed by the 20th Amendment in 1937. They imagine the House certifying Biden and the Senate refusing to act. But the current rules are designed to avoid this type of split outcome. PeterKa (talk) 23:14, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Hold on a sec about RCP's "updated" Senate projections: so Arizona is lean Democrat, yet Colorado's a tossup? I personally think that RCP is better than most election "predictions" such as Cook Political Report, though they still do have some flaws. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 21:23, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Also, Michigan has a chance of flipping if Trump wins the state in his concurrent presidential race. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 22:05, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Another headline suggestion

Here's another idea for an MPR headline:

House Democrat Abby Finkenauer claims to support border security, which contradicts her left-wing, anti-Trump voting record. [28] Support Ashley Hinson for Congress!

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 15:30, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

Also, here's yet another one based on a Breitbart exclusive:

Liberal hack Jake Tapper tried to convince 2020 GOP House candidate Sean Parnell not to run against Conor Lamb. [29] What is Tapper worried about?

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 16:44, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

I saw that RobSmith posted them on MPR. Thank you! —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Monday, 21:42, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

More MPR proposals

Here are some more ideas for MPR headlines:

Half-wit Whitmer says that Biden campaign events are fine, but Trump rallies aren't. [30] See here for a list of her hypocrisy.

The Hill got caught in their outright fake news “reporting”. [31]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Wednesday, 15:34, 9 September 2020 (EDT)

Election countdown

Hi, guys! I added a "weeks until election" countdown to the news headlines section, on the right. It updates automatically, twice a week, and it's accurate to half a week. (If it's too distracting there, we can move it to a different page, like Election Day 2020.) --Ed Poor Talk 09:50, 10 September 2020 (EDT)

That's terrific, Ed! Very well done!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:11, 10 September 2020 (EDT)


Who would be in charge in a Biden administration? Pretty clearly, not the empty-headed Biden. He refers to the future administration as "Harris-Biden" and "Obama-Biden." Harris does the same. After all, being a second banana is what Biden knows best. See "First Kamala Harris, Now Joe Biden Himself Says the Quiet Part Out Loud as to Who Would Be In Charge If He Won." In short, we can expect Harris's agenda to override the constitution to triumph over Biden's nostalgia for that old piece of parchment. Literally no one voted for the Harris platform, yet the Dems are now stuck with it. See "Why Does Kamala Harris Hate the Constitution?" PeterKa (talk) 02:36, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Smart or dumb, Trump is studying the wrong Biden debate recordings. His advisors should be sure to include the debates Biden had with Justice Clarence Thomas' socially-liberal Supreme Court detractors after midnight on the Judge's confirmation hearing days to be sure to show Trump Biden's full abilities in mastery of constitutional scholarship including individual rights under the law and fending off the left (and by extension the ability to fend off himself) from the presumed damagability from their own clichés. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 03:57, 16 September 2020 (EDT)
That's a good point. Biden has an extensive history in constitutional issues. For him to select a constitution-bashing running mate suggests that he no longer believes in anything beyond lining the wallets of himself and his family.
Harris is using the phrase "a Harris administration...together with Joe Biden."[32] I take it that Biden will be propped up and carried around. PeterKa (talk) 04:51, 17 September 2020 (EDT)
If Biden gets five or six good hits in in the first debate, all his gaffes will be forgotten, and in fact, they will be replayed endlessly on every news medium as the upset of the decade, like the success of the Republican National Convention over the Democratic one when Sarah Palin gave her speech. I don't want to be discouraging, so bear in mind that I won't mention why I don't think that approach will work in the end, so it doesn't get prepared for against. But maybe with the tension in the country, they'll mutually agree to lower the pressure. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:39, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Dems shift focus to covid

The Dems are currently focusing on covid as their ticket to the White House. It's hard to see this as anything other than a cynical poll-tested exercise. The Dems first response to a disease is rarely to worry about infection. Instead, they focus on the possibility that the disease will cause some ethnic group or minority to be discriminated against. African countries imposed travel restrictions over Ebola, but not Obama. Instead, he made a point of hugging Ebola victims. When Trump imposed a ban on travel from China, Pelosi and Biden claimed it was "xenophobia."[33] You can't trust people who think like this with a serious public health issue.

The Dems are making a big deal about Trump "playing [covid] down." In the context of the interview, it is clear that all he meant to say is he was hoping to avoid a panic. We got a nationwide panic all the same, so he could have played it down more.

I was thinking about what life would be like if the Democrats had been in charge during covid. It would be the AIDS crisis all over again. No matter how many people died of the virus, if you complained you would be accused of xenophobia and insulting Chinese. Norm McDonald told a story about how he was at an event in which a performer splattered blood on the audience. Everyone cheered. They feared being accused of homophobia far more than they did getting AIDS. For covid, Hollywood up-and-comers would have to sneeze on each other or something. PeterKa (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

I think most anyone would be educated by your interesting story and original thinking. Don't get whiplash as they "shift" to global warming once again as the government epidemiologists (I heard only two members of the whole CDC contributed to Republicans) start to take the heat for being immune to the drastic consequences of their often erratic advice. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:56, 17 September 2020 (EDT)


400 years ago today, on September 16, 1620, the Mayflower set sail for the New World, the most important voyage in history!—Ann Coulter

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 15:51, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Wildfires chase arsonists from Portland

The riots in Portland have stopped. No one seems to know why, but it's probably connected to the wildfires. That is to say, Antifa doesn't want to be accused of starting fires as long the wildfires dominate the headlines. See "Poof! The Portland Riots Just Stopped. Why?". PeterKa (talk) 03:28, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Trump’s “military” deployment of vaccines on Nov. 1 is a clever cover story to prepare for Insurrection Act invocation, mass arrests using military police

"Trump’s plan to defend America and take down her domestic enemies is now becoming increasingly clear, and one new bombshell conclusion in all this concerns Trump’s vow to use the US military to deploy vaccines nationwide before the election on Nov. 3rd.

We now believe, for reasons outlined here, that the “military deployment” of vaccines is a cover story. Trump is using the vaccine issue to place military units in position all across the nation to prepare for a post-election invocation of the Insurrection Act which would activate the military to confront and arrest or eliminate domestic terrorists across the country.

In other words, Trump isn’t really leaping in with the vaccine industry as much as we once feared. “Operation Warp Speed” isn’t really a vaccine operation but rather a national security operation that will put US troops on the streets of every American city in an effort to restore the rule of law, arrest treasonous actors (including mayors and governors) and put down left-wing terrorists.[34]

What think ye? RobSFree Kyle! 00:02, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

We'll certainly know the effectiveness based on how much the left will scream that "Trump is literally Hitler!"
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 00:21, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
All we need is to make a physical link between a person associated with ACTBlue, the DNC, and Thousand Currents with BLM or Antifa giving marching orders for the scheduled riots beginning Nov. 4, and Soros, Pelosi, Marc Elias. Maxine et al ad infinitum can be arrested for sedition. Remember, Trump and Barr are running the FISA program now to protect America's national security now.RobSFree Kyle! 01:22, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
If that's so, then it must be surprising to see that the FISA process is being used without ridiculous abuses of power.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:28, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Soros makes a donation to BLM; BLM trained Marxists coordinate with Antifa via Twitter for riots. Under the two-hop rule, it shouldn't be hard to discover the whole subversive network. RobSFree Kyle! 02:01, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
The only thing Obama's illegal spying came up with was Stormy Daniels. Now the electronic surveillance apparatus is in the hands of professionals who do things "by the book". RobSFree Kyle! 02:04, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Could the lack of sudden page view surges for recent page creations be due to potential leftist hackers amidst the upcoming elections?

I noticed for the past few while that hardly any page creations will get sudden surges in page views to ~400, 800, 1,000, 2,000, or even 3,000-4,000 views as had happened prior to around when the server errors started occurring very frequently. Perhaps it really does have something to do with commie hackers, or something along those lines?
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:02, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

According to Alexa, CP went from 70%+ Search traffic to 31%, while competitors dropped from the mid 60s to about 51%. IOWs, CP's search traffic was cut in half. Google evidently has blacklisted some content. We need some of our Search engine gurus like User:Conservative or Vargas Milan to look into this. RobSFree Kyle! 01:07, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
For Example: Google has blacklisted CP's Kamala Harris page. The talk:Kamala Harris page showed up at about #106 a few weeks ago. RobSFree Kyle! 01:09, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Hmm, that's interesting. My Charles A. Halleck page, with over 3,000 page views, currently shows up as the top 7th result on Google, the top 2nd result on Yahoo, the top 2nd result on Bing, and the top 2nd result on DuckDuckGo.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:13, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Since the change of servers, CP went from 1.9 page views per visitor to 7.2, Time on Site from under 2 minutes to 5:54 minutes. The content is definitely being consumed. RobSFree Kyle! 01:16, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Hmm, interesting. No wonder it's possible that Google may be blacklisting us amidst the upcoming elections.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:31, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Since there's reduced Google traffic and referrals from Facebook, Twitter, or Youtube, the increased user base must be organic. The chalenge now is for CP to old on to it, since Facebook and Twitter censorship between now and Inauguration Day guarantees an increase. RobSFree Kyle! 01:57, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Alright then, I'll try to add constant edits to the CP pages for the Senate and House elections this year, and aim for over 25,000 page views each for them by election day.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 02:05, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
That's a good idea. If CP results could show up next to Ballotpedia google results, it could be a real winner. All we need is, like Ballotpedia, is have skeleton outline pages all pre-formatted. As members make stupid statements and get involved in scandals, we have a ready place to hang it. RobSFree Kyle! 02:14, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Excessive permissions for page locking

Can Conservapedia administrators please stop maxing out page permissions? There are several levels of permissions:

1) Skip captcha
2) Overnight editing
3) Blocking trolls
4) Upload
5) Rollback
6) Move
7) Protect/unprotect

I would like to make an edit to the page U.S. "Party-switch" myth, a page I've made many edits to in the past(and I would like to think are good edits, they've been expanded on by others) so why did the permissions go from zero all the way to the top of 10000 skipping everything inbetween? Isn't it reasonable that anybody who doesn't have either block or skip captcha is a sufficient enough permission to get the job done of hindering trolls? Conservapedia is a continually growing website with many new users, and by blocking new users(but perhaps promoted once or twice) just the same still probably gives trolls a win. Progressingamerica (talk) 10:52, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

You make great points and I have unlocked the entry. I will also look into this issue of levels of permission further. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Thanks Andy. Is locking the page for skip captcha (or above levels below admin) not possible? Progressingamerica (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

The 1776 Commission

This initiative alone justifies Trump's reelection: "Liberals howl when Trump announces '1776 Commission'." The president of the American Federation of Teachers calls it "disgusting," which tells you all you need to know about the state of today's teacher's unions. PeterKa (talk) 20:45, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Its too bad that more conservatives aren't active in the realm of historical topics, as this gives progressives a clear field to run unopposed there. There's a lot of good that we can do on our own as "we the people" restoring history, without waiting for government to do our jobs for us. I've been working for almost a decade now, but it's really lonely in these woods! Progressingamerica (talk) 11:51, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Justice Ginsberg dies

Who remembers the Merrick Garland episode in 2016? At that time, the Dems told us that because Scalia died on Obama's watch, his seat belonged to them. What happens to the Senate in this view of the constitution? A rubber stamp for the president? It was like "collusion." The Dems put forward a ridiculous claim and never felt any need to explain themselves further. This time around is totally different, according to Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader in the Senate: the Senate should not fill the vacancy left by Ginsburg's death "until we have a new president."[35] Notice that there is no pretense here of respecting election outcomes, either the last one or the next one.

That Ruth Bader Ginsburg died in office exposes flaw in the system. It seems unlikely that she was a functioning judge in the months before she died. Supreme Court appointments should be for 18 years or for some other fixed number. A group of senior appeals court judges could be moved up to the Supreme Court periodically. The constitution requires appointments for life, but that provision can be addressed by moving a justice to another court at the end of his term.

The talk of Ginsberg dying has been going on for a year now. Supreme Court justice should not be such an important position that a single death can attract this much attention. So there is a case to be made for a larger court with more justices. Even the First Circuit, the smallest of the 13 appeals courts, has ten judges. With more justices, the Supreme Court could consider cases with three-judge panels like the appeals courts do. PeterKa (talk) 01:52, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

I somewhat noticed for the past few months that many liberals seemed to think Ginsburg was doing fine, despite everything suggesting otherwise. Also, given her left-wing judicial record in favoring abortion and the homosexual agenda, I certainly hope that the Lord will have mercy on her soul.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Saturday, 02:06, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
This happened at a time when Conservapedia has been receiving its recent surge in popularity. Obviously we are a long-awaited voice for "working womon", who would be ideal to cultivate for social information projects that would be sure to be convenient for both our interests, and who don't want to have to watch as some "gay" is getting a so-called "mate" sooner than the real one they are working hard year after year at the daily grind to attract.
Did I just use weasel words? Pardon me for trying to be polite—to those who aren't dashing about in crazed eagerness to prejudge conservatives. Those who are have already stopped reading. Benefits to society are exactly what the Supreme Court talks about when it decides changes in laws.
Gay unions aren't equal in terms of offspring, stability or approval by the Holy Apostle—sorry to awaken you from self-flattering slumbers, but if weren't for Christians, this country would not be up! That you think people like you are so special that Christian America can't provide them a place for those who are loyal is so laughable, that it just tells me it's probably time for you to take a good, long look in the mirror and decide if you really want to live in America and take responsibility for the freedom she enjoys. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 06:10, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

While you're discussing Ginsberg, can someone explain something to a foreign observer? When there was a vacancy on the SCOTUS at the end of Obama's presidency, the Republican Party was adamant for legal, constitutional and moral reasons that no new judge should be appointed until the new President was elected. Does that mean Ginsberg's successor won't be appointed until after this election? Rafael (talk) 07:59, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Majority leader Mitch McConnell has already announced that he will hold a vote on Trump's nominee, so the short answer is "no." There is no issue more important to the Republican base than getting a pro-constitution majority on the Supreme Court, so I don't think he has a choice. No Democrat recognized the "no election year appointment" principle back in 2016. Who are they kidding by bringing it up now? PeterKa (talk) 08:19, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you. These are very interesting times. I'm not sure if I've missed a nuance in the last sentence, however. This is not a matter for the Democrats, who are in opposition, is it? Rafael (talk) 10:50, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I know this is a standard argument on the left, but I don't follow the logic. McConnell lied back in 2016, so the Democrats should get an extra Supreme Court seat? Huh? Even if McConnell had held a vote, Garland would still not have gotten on the Supreme Court. About a third of the nominations to the Supreme Court don't get confirmed. If you think Garland was robbed of a seat, what about Bork? PeterKa (talk) 13:12, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I don't see where left and right comes into what is a question of administration. In the UK, the government appoints the judiciary. The opposition can scream and shout and stand on their heads, the appointment stands. I assume that's not the case in the US but if the Republicans have the authority and the mandate, what can the Democrats do beyond stalling the confirmation? Does the appointment stand if there is a change of administration during the confirmation hearings? If so, what's the fuss? On the other hand, looking at what happened in 2016, maybe it's not so clearly defined. I come here to learn some of the subtler points of US politics but I'm struggling to understand the basic principles of appointing a new SCOTUS judge. Rafael (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
McConnell plans to hold a vote on Barrett before the election. If she is confirmed by a majority of the Senate, as everyone assumes she will be, she becomes a lifetime member of the court. Some Dems have proposed expanding the court after the election to maintain a liberal majority. But nothing like that has ever been done before. The "fuss" is because liberals have been the majority on the court since the 1930s. Barrett's appointment would create a conservative majority. PeterKa (talk) 22:43, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
Rafeal, The idea is that judges in an independent judiciary are appointed by a bi-partisan consensus - that is what the Senate filibuster rule was designed for. That's how the system worked for a hundred and some odd years until Harry Reid did away with it to get some of Obama's commies appointed to the bench (that's why the Democrat Senate was voted out). Judges are confirmed by a simple Senate majority now, and the hearings are just going through the motions honoring tradition.
Now we're back to discussing court packing. Andrew Jackson did it, enlarging the court from the original 7 to 9, where's it's been ever since. FDR tried and failed. But the idea now is, with a 6-3 conservative majority, to enlarge it to 13 and appoint 4 communist jurists. But that requires the commie Dems to steal "all three chambers of government", the House, Senate, and White House. RobSFree Kyle! 19:31, 17 October 2020 (EDT)
In Jackson's day, the number of court seats corresponded to the number of circuits. With westward expansion, Congress created two additional circuits along with two additional seats. It's not usually considered as a court packing episode. Under Andrew Johnson, a Tennesse Democrat, there was a little "court packing in reverse" (court unpacking?). The Republican Senate refused to approve his nominees. The number of justices declined from ten to seven as a result. PeterKa (talk) 00:37, 18 October 2020 (EDT)

That is a loaded question. And you used weasel words. So okay, it was an unloaded question. Can we expect to you to fill up those empty generalities soon with actual content like the way I just did, or was that an application of what we are hearing so much about: critical pseudo-theory—that was just banned? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 08:27, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

The Dems are retweeting Ginsburg's supposed last words as, "Justice Ginsburg dictated a statement before her death: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed." So even if Trump is reelected, the Dems still won't recognized that he has the right to make Supreme Court nominations. If you listen to Dems recently, it sounds like they just a wanted a vote back in 2016. Only Susan Collins wanted a vote. The Dems were saying the seat rightfully belonged to them. If there had been vote, Garland would almost certainly have been rejected.
What could be more hypocritical than Obama making the argument that Trump has no right to replace Ginsburg given he nominated Garland in similar circumstances? See "Obama on filling Ginsburg's seat: Apply rules with consistency." Strictly speaking, Obama has not yet excluded the possibility of being "consistent" himself by supporting Trump's nominee, although that strikes me as highly unlikely. PeterKa (talk) 09:09, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
How about Michael Flynn perjuring himself in a plea deal to save his son and the Justice Department trying to throw it out just because he was never sentenced, smart guy? And if you try to mention he was only indicted in the first place because he was framed with rogue-FBI-manufactured evidence, you obviously don't understand how angry I am at being thwarted as result of my selfishly in-"consistent" command of applying just behavior, and "just" might riot in a fit of unfocused rage! In a Democrat-run city, of course. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 09:25, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Liberals are $platinum$ mad...what's in your wallet?

Things to do (think and feel):

a special person like me suffers a special kind of grief. Everybody needs to know, and nobody gets to examine the thinking that caused it, or the degree of expectation that would have mercifully absorbed the shock, because that hurts too.nfsnhDWbwh
howl with rage that anyone would try to undo the great things done by the one the loss of whom caused me such incoherent grief!
channel those feelings into raising money through those who previously laundered the funds raised by terrorist supporters to those who sanction the activities by their silence and weasel words.

Soccer practice:

Draw close to opponent and suddenly clutch knee, fall over and scream in pain...

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 08:55, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Rafael suffers kind of paralysis, but buddy Carltonio immediately comes to the rescue with a win!

"Use"-evolution not denied by every scientist! Who knows, maybe once you learn the three laws of Newtonian physics, and those alone, you can "use" them, personally, all on your own, to design a spacecraft mission to deliver a man to the moon and return him safely to earth!

So do you guys just work in tandem online, or do you work together in real life to trip people to the ground for whom you feel spite? If not, you might want to try it! Think of how sweet it would feel!

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:08, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

It's been a long week and I don't know where to start deciphering your post. I can only pray your day gets better. Rafael (talk) 10:48, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
Rafael, it would be big of you to admit that riots are possible rather than just call the times "interesting". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 11:31, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I think you have me confused with someone else. Rafael (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

Ginsburg and the unfortunate outcome for our military to a breach of separation of powers based on a poorly-evidenced or falsely-evidenced casus belli

Ginsburg sharply criticized Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in an interview with ABC, calling for him to cease the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Syria.


Assad: "Assad must go? Ha-ha-ha!"

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:34, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Italy drops a dime

I never found out when the Italian government alerted Durham about certain potentially criminal matters in their country (is that a phrase?). But events have proceeded along past and brought us to a time where we can get an idea of what the order is in which the consequences of that notification are expected to follow soon:

Your reminder that the Durham probe became criminal in nature ONLY after ITALY provided the investigators with information about Joseph Mifsud and his bizarre meetings with me in Rome and London. The action is on what was happening abroad, hence, Brennan in the hot seat.—George P., September 18, 2020.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 04:27, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Brennan and Dearlove engineered the conspiracy to meddle in the US election in order to preserve US taxpayer support for NATO (whose mission changed from defending Europe to waging aggressive war in Africa). Brennan and Dearlove put Halper in charge of hiring Mifsud, Downer, Azra Turk, and other OCONUS lures.
The Russian bogeyman was needed to justify waging aggressive war against Libya (to further French and UK commercial interests on the US taxpayer dime) and Syria as a proxy wr against Iran. Flynn, of course, opposed all this. Hence Flynn was he original target cause he was guiding Trump. RobSFree Kyle! 13:15, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
BoJo is up to his eyes in all this, cause he was Dearlove's boss at the time. But the UK and NATO have had a free ride for so long, you almost can hardly blame them for thinking they are entitled to put the cost of their own defense on the backs of US taxpayers. RobSFree Kyle! 13:25, 19 September 2020 (EDT)