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Trump-Putin phone call 3-18

"exchange of assets". Apparently, the US is proposing an exchange of the Zaporozhye NPP for recognition of the Crimean Annexation. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:38, March 17, 2025 (EDT)

"energy infrastructure" read "Zaporozhye nuclear power plant".
Karoline Leavitt: a nuclear power plant “on the border of Russia and Ukraine”, IOWs, the White House recognizes the annexation of Zaporozhye and the new international border. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:53, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
Reports indicate the new Russian republics east of the Dnieper do not need the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant for supplies of electricity; they can be supplied from Rostov. Western Ukraine (west of the Dnieper) does need the ZNPP. Therefore, in exchange of formal recognition of the new international borders, the RF may be willing to give up the ZNPP. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:01, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
It was 2 hours long. We only get a glimpse.Telling (talk) 22:09, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
Starmer and Macron will get Zelensky to launch another attack on a Russian refinery in an effort to sabotage negotiations. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:52, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
Apparently the talks are much farther ahead than what is and has been reported. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:35, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
US ally President Diem was murdered in a CIA-backed coup. Henry Kissinger later said, "To be an American enemy is dangerous, to be an American friend is fatal."
Is this the Trump effect? or America remaining the most powerful country on the planet for the foreseeable future? Not 8 hours after Western media headlines Trump & Putin making an agreement not to attack energy infrastructure, Zelensky attacks energy infrastructure.
Maybe Trump's a liar, or maybe he's too weak, or maybe the United States can't live up to and enforce its commitments. Or maybe Zelensky signed his own death warrant. Who knows? RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:44, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
IMO, Trump may have to deal with Zelensky in the same manner that Putin had to deal with Prigozhin. RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:48, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
In a sense it's kinda funny, if not ridiculous. Trump talks about 2,000 Ukrainian soldiers encircled in the Kursk pocket, but not a word about the 68,000 killed there on Zelensky's and NATO planners' command since last August. It's really a testament of the utter ignorance of Western MSM and news consumers.
In observing Trump, IMO one can say he individually is capable of pulling off his own psyops. It's hard for me to believe that he is oblivious of the 68,000 whose lives have been squandered in Kursk in the run-up to the election and Western efforts to "Trump-proof" the war before he took office so that Trump would be blamed, not Biden, for the defeat. RobSZelensky Must Go! 04:14, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
Now in the case of Prigozhin and Rommel, despite being executed on the boss's orders, both were buried with full state honors and remain national heroes. Unless Zelensky packs his bags and heads for the airport like the Shah or Ferdinand Marcos, he may end up like Hitler with his remains not being found. RobSZelensky Must Go! 04:31, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
They did agree against Islamist Iran not having the ability to destroy Israel. Does this mean preventing its nukes even by Putin?LaMarina (talk) 12:48, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
Sources say yes. [3]
If you're not at the table, you're on the menu. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:05, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
MoonofAlabama has this interesting take: Trump Seeks Russian Support For War On Iran.
Korybko published this two weeks ago: Putin Might Broker An Iranian-US “New Détente” As A Reciprocal Favor To Trump.
Given both Trump & Putin's penchant for surprises, it wouldn't be surprising if both these matters are on the table under the heading of "non-proliferation". RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:03, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
The M.O.A. link seems to promote Iran. I knew this site to be pro Putin. That is one thing. But the above linked piece is totally propagating for the Mullahs. He also lies as if Houthis have "not" attacked US linked ships. While Houthis themselves actually brag about it. This [4] is 2 days ago.Telling (talk) 21:22, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
MoA is mostly veterans and retired intelligence professionals. I wouldn't characterize it as pro-Russian. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:24, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
It is known as a pro Putin leaning source. But Telling has a point about Iran. And some are falling for Iranian stooges.Dianne3000 (talk) 23:51, March 19, 2025 (EDT)
I read the article 3 times. Don't see where it can be characterized as pro-Iran. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:24, March 20, 2025 (EDT)
The whole piece is pro Iran. And I will add that after whitewashing Iran's proxy it warns [intimidating Americans, so typical] that China backs Iran and ends with: "futile conflict with Iran." (PS, Squeezing Iran does not have to be a "war.")Telling (talk) 00:40, March 20, 2025 (EDT)
I don't see that at all. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:43, March 20, 2025 (EDT)
Have you seen this episode of Fainting Piglet? Russia gives the nuke to Belarus, but denies it to Iran. (The role of toilet paper says "Sanctions" in the Cyrillic alphabet). RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:25, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Update: IRAN UNVEILS 'UNDERGROUND MISSILE CITY' showcasing heavy weaponry as US and Israeli sabre-rattling increases against the Islamic Republic.
Sure, some of it could be trick-photography for propaganda purposes. It should be noted however, mobile missile launchers are extremely hard to locate and destroy. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:34, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Bondi, Ratcliffe, Patel and Gabbard await the arrival of Mohammad Sharifullah.
Update: Trump has a card to play. Mohammad Sharifullah, who participating in organizing both the Kabul airport terror attack that killed 13 Americans, and the Crocus Hall terror attack that killed 130 and injured 550 and is Russia's most wanted terrorist, is now in US custody. Russian media reports the terrorist attack was organized by an "unfriendly country", i.e. Ukraine. Zelensky is an internationally wanted terrorist and war criminal.
Extraditing Sharifullah to Russia to stand trial on terrorism charges would go a long way to help the United States and Trump establish good faith among the Russian people and the Russian government. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:54, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

Good news: Fani Willis to pay $54K...

DA Fani Willis’ office ‘openly hostile’ in Trump records case, must pay $54K in legal fees: judge. [5]. Wheels Of justice...Telling (talk) 08:55, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

It's her office (meaning the taxpayers), not her personally, correct? RobSZelensky Must Go!
Presumably. Telling (talk) 22:11, March 18, 2025 (EDT)
Serve's em right. Maybe they'll think twice about who they vote for next time.
It's still only a fraction of what lover boy was collecting in salary. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:59, March 18, 2025 (EDT)

Woke hospital asks parents of newborn child if it's "trans"...

This is so enraging. [6].Telling (talk) 07:52, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

Canada

A vote for Canada's Liberals is vote for China, which just executed four Canadians. PeterKa (talk) 08:02, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

That is really awful.Telling (talk) 09:36, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

Bongino needs to get a FISA warrant on Judge Boasberg

[7] RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:05, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

OTOH, they don't need to ask a FISA judge for a warrant on another FISA judge (could cause some controversy). It can be done under FISA 702.

All they need is probable cause. That can be done by linking P Diddy to a drug cartel or foreign terrorist organization and the 3 hop method. DC District Chief Judge Boasberg's brother in law bragging about his pal's connections to Diddy.

I suspect we may have to revisit parallel construction, (how Robert Mueller nailed Michael Cohen). RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:46, March 20, 2025 (EDT)

Trump 3rd term?

Trump 3rd term?[8] Viable? Can he argue it's like an 'emergency ', and it's vital for the good of the country?Telling (talk) 15:50, March 21, 2025 (EDT)

  • So far, it's just Bannon promoting it or it has broader backing?Dianne3000 (talk) 19:38, March 21, 2025 (EDT)
Reagan opposed term limits on the president, claiming it disenfranchised a voter's right to choose. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:43, March 22, 2025 (EDT)
I think, there is also a group advocating for it.Telling (talk) 23:41, March 22, 2025 (EDT)
The 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution limits presidents to two terms. And a constitutional amendment is very difficult to pass (or reverse). A third Trump presidency is wishful thinking on the part of fans of Trump. JD Vance is favored to win in 2028 according to the political betting markets. Conservative (talk) 23:56, March 22, 2025 (EDT)
Yes Conservative, as of now, Vance is rocking.Telling (talk) 00:01, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Since Trump's Return, Democrats in Disarray: An Uncertain Road Ahead, CBN News video. Conservative (talk) 01:12, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
CBN is a Russophobic globalist mouthpiece. RobSZelensky Must Go! 01:28, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

imetatronink

“ Before this war began, the almost-universal belief was that US/NATO weaponry and equipment were far and away superior to anything the Russians could put on the battlefield.

That unfounded faith in the unrivaled supremacy of western arms has now been shattered — although we already see the think-tank apologists fashioning their strained rationalizations.

Nevertheless, when one examines in aggregate the implements of war the US/NATO have provided to Ukraine, the overwhelming majority consists of the very stuff every military in NATO would field in a war against Russia, or anyone else, for that matter.

Here is a sobering truth: if the Armed Forces of Ukraine could make one wish, it would be to respawn as the army and abundant quantities of effective and durable Soviet equipment they had in February 2022. That was, all things considered, the strongest army they would ever have. And it was, in great measure, squandered on the altar of a misguided commitment to NATO field doctrines that repeatedly proved misconceived and ill-adaptive to the war that actually ensued, as well as the war as it has subsequently evolved. [9]

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NYT writer says Dems are 'getting destroyed' as data show Gen Z 'most conservative' generation in decades.

This Is Great News.

NYT writer says Dems are 'getting destroyed' as data show Gen Z 'most conservative' generation in decades. [10]Telling (talk) 23:59, March 22, 2025 (EDT)

Evidently Bernie Sanders & AOC are leaders of the party right now. Sanders is 83 years old. That leaves AOC (a fellow Squad member was just indicted on felony charges). AOC likely will primary Schumer. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:30, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Which is why it's not improving...Telling (talk) 07:47, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
We're in a transitional period. The honeymoon is over, and Trump's personal approval rating, despite being at an all-time high, is below 50%.
Richard Nixon, the all-time high vote getter in 1972 with 62%, still was destroyed by the Washington Post and mainstream media in less than two years. Why? Cause he attempted the same thing Trump is now doing. Upon his re-election, during the transition period he requested resignations of the entire federal government to clean out the dead weight of New Deal & Great Society holdovers (drain the swamp). The deep state railroaded him.
Now, that was only possible cause the opposition controlled the Congress. But this isn't a time to gloat. You can bet there is a scandal out there, real or manufactured, being drummed up for the Midterms.
Oh, and it's the economy stupid. Inflation will remain a big problem.
What Republicans need to do is accommodate the RFK Jr, Tulsi Gabbard, minority and other voters, and make them permanent GOP voters. Making these voters traditional "conservatives" is another matter for discussion another day. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:56, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Trump's approval will improve with the economy. Hopefully very soon. Meantime, Dems. approvals are in shambles.Telling (talk) 15:29, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

Musk agrees with Bibi re DEEP STATE

Benjamin Netanyahu - בנימין נתניהו Mar 19. @netanyahu · In America and in Israel, when a strong right wing leader wins an election, the leftist Deep State weaponizes the justice system to thwart the people's will. They won't win in either place! We stand strong together. [11] Elon Musk @elonmusk: 💯 [12]

Netanyahu is right about Israel’s ‘deep state’. Like the anti-Trump “resistance,” the country’s liberal establishment is waging a war against the prime minister as a bid to hold on to power, not an effort to save democracy. Jonathan S. Tobin (Mar. 21, 2025 / JNS). JNS.Telling (talk) 15:26, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

Swastika-palestine protesters: some are honest - calling for another Holocaust, some are just paid

Muslim in Germany:

Germany- Islamist "palestine" activist praises Hitler for massacring 6 million. (Mar.2025)

Azat @AzatAlsalim: 🇩🇪Pro-Palestine activist praises Hitler. Pro-Palestinian activist: "Hitler did one thing well." The interviewer followed up: "Does this have anything to do with murder of six million Jews?" The activist answered affirmatively: “Yes, something like that.” From Iman Sefati Mar 15, 2025 [13]

Arab "palestine" Muslim in NYC:

Islamo-Arab "palestine" protester- 'You will have another Holocaust' (03.18.25)

Jewish Lives Matter is in New York, NY. “You will have another Holocaust.” Filmed by @jewishwarriornyc1 in NYC. The rats are coming out. Mar 18, 2025. [14] Vivid.🇮🇱 @VividProwess: Pro-Hamas Muslim woman: "You will have another Holocaust." Those are literally terrorists in America. Mar 19, 2025. [15]

Paid rioters

Stacy Gittleman:

If you want to know why thousands of people are coming out to these violent anti-American and anti-israel protests, it is because they are getting paid. This is an ad found on Craigslist in the New York City area. Who is paying for this?

Mar 15, 2025 [16]Telling (talk) 08:27, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

  • How about the mask of "I'm just anti zionist" infamous LT line...see clip.

segalian.. Unmasking Hate: The Criminal Incitement of Modern Antisemitism.

In a city with one of the world’s largest Jewish populations, a masked agitator, wearing a Hamas headband, openly incited mass murder against “Zionists”—a thinly veiled euphemism for Jews.

This deliberate substitution is a known tactic of modern antisemitism, exposing the inextricable link between Anti-Zionism and Jew-hatred. Calls for violence against Zionists are not just morally reprehensible but legally actionable as hate speech and incitement to terrorism. There is no masking the crime.Dianne3000 (talk) 09:56, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

$1,000 a head for a mob in the tens of thousands is some real cash.
Who's paying for it? A possible explanation or answer is really simple, despite heretofore considered "conspiratorial".
The unmasking of USAID, which no one anticipated before January 20, 2025, fundamentally changed everything.
Soros doesn't spend his own money. He's a front for USAID grants. What is USAID's purpose? To feed the MIC.
These bureaucrats, technocrats and oligarchs are not patriots and heroes. Or idealists. They are self-interested hucksters who have perfected the art of converting ancient animosities and hatreds between people groups into hard cash to line their own pockets. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:20, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Well, maybe oiled rich Qatar (al jazeera and MiddleEastEye). As in 2024 reports of paying for riots?Telling (talk)
Witkoff, in the Tucker interview, had nothing but praise for the Qataris. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:13, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
What I learned from Witkoff these days, is, he is pragmatic , though he knows one thing, but says other things in order to get deals... under Trump. He needs the Qataris (so does Bibi), though they are the other hand of Hamas beasts. I watched every word he said this morning on Foxnews Sunday. Including re Ukraine.Telling (talk) 14:22, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
FinCEN, a member of the IC, would be able to trace payments. Tulsi, Kash & Bongino should be on it. Which is why I suspect it's internal (USAID) and not foreign (although funds can be laundered outside). Whatever. It clearly a policy originating somewhere with somebody. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:24, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Thanks. You are right.Telling (talk) 14:57, March 23, 2025 (EDT)
Breaking: Conservativetreehouse: Emissary Witkoff Says He was “Duped” by Hamas.
CIA pipeline of arms from Qatar to groups in Turkey which became the Islamic State. [1] Illustration: New York Times
“ Within the recent interview between President Trump’s emissary Steve Witkoff and Tucker Carlson, there was a very weird segment where Ambassador Witkoff was heaping praise upon the Qatari government. [SEE HERE] Carlson sat there nodding and affirming his support for Witkoff’s opinion of Qatar. It was really bizarre. {GO DEEP}

That segment of the interview was bizarre because there is zero doubt that Qatar is a bad actor in all things related to the middle east and U.S. domestic policy outcomes. For Ambassador Witkoff to be that wrong about such a big item puts a question mark behind his judgement and the influences on his opinions toward the relationships in the middle east.

Qatar is bad news. President Trump has previously, correctly, called out the nation of Qatar for being the center of support for radical extremism throughout the region. Qatar is also connected at the hip to the CIA.

Qatar funded and supported the original “Arab spring,” more accurately known as the Islamist Spring. Qatar is the banker for the Muslim Brotherhood....

Within the USA Qatar funds the same groups the USAID (technically the CIA) funds that stir up trouble domestically. Those groups include The Brookings Institute, who in turn fund Lawfare, specifically the efforts of Mary McCord (DOJ), Andrew Weissmann and Norm Eisen. Qatar spends money on issues in/around the USA that are against the interests of our country and President Trump specifically....

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Tell, maybe you're on to something. There is no doubt a question about Qatar & USAID. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:13, March 24, 2025 (EDT)
Qatar (and its al Jazeera, middleeasteye) is the problem, not the solution.
  • Qatar's 'day after' plan for Gaza: Keep Hamas in power

Jan 28, 2025 https://www.jns.org/qatars-day-after-plan-for-gaza-keep-hamas-in-power/

  • Qatar is now the deep state in the Trump administration.

Feb 12, 2025 https://www.jns.org/qatar-is-now-the-deep-state-in-the-trump-administration/

  • 'Qatar is Hamas, and Hamas is Qatar'.

by Khaled Abu Toameh. February 11, 2025. https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/21386/qatar-is-hamas Telling (talk)

Telling is right. Greenfield has a great piece on the cringe gushing over jihadi Qatar "mediators".Dianne3000 (talk) 06:07, March 24, 2025 (EDT)
Wow. I forgot about a lot of this background, and haven't had the time to properly analyze. Thanks for the link and sources. I will study. RobSZelensky Must Go! 06:33, March 24, 2025 (EDT)
Okay, I read and digested all the links both of you provided and picked up a lot of new information, as well as other articles I want to get to. Thanks to both of you. What I missed, cause all these links focus on political influence, is the military/strategic link of Qatar with the United States - basically the main air and sea link between the US & Pakistan. For example, during the withdrawal from Kabul, all flights shuttled between Kabul & Qatar - the main evacuation point. This answers the question most of those articles ask - Why does the US gov & certain US citizens have these relationships with Qatar? RobSZelensky Must Go! 07:37, March 24, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Conservativetreehouse: [17]
“ "A looming realignment is on the horizon in the middle east as Turkey, Syria, Iran and Machiavellian Qatar along with the CIA are likely to form a coalition (pro Muslim Brotherhood group). This creates an opportunity for President Trump, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Russia to form a counterbalance alliance.

Russia and the USA working together in the middle east would be a game changer.

Vladimir Putin already has good relations with Mohammed bin Salman (Saudi) and Abdel Fattah al-Sisi (Egypt). Putin can create the ability for President Trump to bridge the diplomatic gap with Iran. [Ed. See Korybko linked above]

”
IMO, I think the Russian Federation would prefer to remain neutral and have good relations with all parties involved. Russia is not going to form an "alliance" that President Walz, Harris, Newscum or Ocasio-Cortez will break in 45 months. RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:08, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Unconfirmed: First F-16 shot down in Ukraine

Still waiting for the Russian MoD to confirm. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:34, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

Duh...

File:Hamas PM Ismail Barhoum - under US sanctions, eliminated in targeted strike at hospital, after predecessor.3.23.25

One Gazan wrote: It seems that the Jews know exactly where the (Hamas - AA) leadership is hiding... Mar 23, 2025 [18]

Ismail Barhoum Israeli airstrike on Gaza hospital kills Hamas official who was under US sanctions: reports. [19] Telling (talk) 20:57, March 23, 2025 (EDT)

JFK, RFK, 911 - fake "theories" started by racist Arabs - before KKK picking up on it

JFK, RFK, 911 - fake "theories" started by racist Arabs.

1963:

RACIST PALESTINIAN ARABS MADE UP THE FIRST "JEWS [sic] KILLED [sic] JFK" CONSPIRACY THEORY ONLY THREE DAYS AFTER HE WAS ASSASSINATED.


Palestinian Arabs made up the first "Jews killed JFK" conspiracy theory only three days after he was assassinated. A letter sent on November 25, 1963, blaming "zionists."

Palestinian Arabs made up the first "Jews [sic] killed [sic] JFK" conspiracy theory only three days after he was assassinated. EoZ, Mar 20, 2025. [20]

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1968:

AN ARAB, SIRHAN SIRHAN, ASSASSINATED ROBERT KENNEDY AND ARABS INVENT LIBEL ON JEWS.

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Justice Department Keeps Watch on Arab Students Group As Sirhan Probe Continues. JTA, June 24, 1968. [...] Arab-American businessmen in Los Angeles are spreading a story that Sirhan Sirhan, alleged assassin of Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, was “a secret agent ‘paid by the Zionists’ to blacken the name of the Arab world,” it was reported here today by the Washington Post. In a related development, the Arab Higher Committee for Palestine, in Beirut, has instructed its New York office to offer “all possible assistance” to Sirhan. The committee’s spokesman, former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin el-Husseini, who visited Berlin during World War II and collaborated with Hitler, said it had instructed its New York representatives to legally defend Sirhan as far as United States law will permit. The committee is known in New York as the Palestine Arab Delegation. Its New York representatives are Issa Nakhleh and Omar Azzouni, both attorneys. [21]


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911 (Sep 11, 2001):

ARAB-ISLAMISTS' MASSACRING CLOSE TO 3,000. ISLAMIC FASCIST REPUBLIC OF IRAN'S HEZBOLLAH INVENTED THE LIE.


On its Al-Manar TV (Lebanon), September 17, 2001 (inventing the "4,000" lie). __

Unraveling Anti-Semitic 9/11 Conspiracy Theories. [22]

(hat tip N.E.R).Dianne3000 (talk) 08:23, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

Thanks. Vital history. It's amazing how far back this trail goes.Telling (talk) 19:01, March 24, 2025 (EDT)

The Atlantic

The Atlantic, one of User:Conservative's favorite sources in his globalist screeds, was invited by Mike Waltz into a private chat on the Yemen attack with VP Vance, Tulsi, Ratcliffe, Hegseth, Rubio, Bessent, Witkoff, Susie Wiles, Stephen Miller and others.

You can imagine where this is headed. Grenell, the utility man, is sitting on the bench if Waltz has to be replaced.

I only hope the Trump administration doesn't allow their private chats to be conducted like the Conservapedia Sysop email list has been run by User:Conservative and Karajou for over a decade. RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:21, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

Why is this a crisis? Sundance of the Conservativetreehouse, who religiously signs off at midnite EST and rarely posts before 2PM, posted up an hour and 10 minutes after midnite - first time ever in the 10 years I've been following him. It's a heads-up to watch other & msm narrative construction. RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:41, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

Looks like the six-ways-from-sunday crowd's strategy is working - the Trump NatSec team looks like the gang that couldn't shoot straight, undermining public confidence in peace efforts. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:15, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Looks like an attack on Tulsi. Tulsi communicates daily to the White House the Presidential Daily Briefing. If Waltz set her up to embarrass her and cause a public loss of confidence in the administration, it creates a loss of trust between members of the team. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:29, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

Right now, intelligence chiefs testify...

link (YouTube from Foxnews PA)Telling (talk) 11:31, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

The American Conservative: Waltz must go. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:03, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
I don't see how Tulsi, Ratcliffe, Hegseth or anybody who works outside the White House can trust the guy inside the White House closest to the President's ear again. Trump tried to make peace with the neocons, and they stabbed him in the back again. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:10, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Why/how was he added to the chat? Was JG's number resembling another number Mike knew? I'm trying to figure out the 'glitch'.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:21, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Well, it's obvious Waltz has been one of Goldberg's sources since Waltz had his phone number. Whether it was an error is kinda beside the point. There is no cause now for anyone on the team to trust him (this is assuming the story we've pieced together is correct). RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:26, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
At the moment, Trump[23][24] and GOP [25] defend Waltz, it seems.
“ In an interview with NBC News on Tuesday, Trump called Waltz “a good man,” adding that he “has learned a lesson.”

The President further stated that the outcome of the March 15 airstrikes, which he called “perfectly successful,” was not affected at all following the inclusion of journalist Jeffrey Goldberg in a Signal group. The group also included Vice President JD Vance, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

He pointed out that it was the “only glitch in two months” following his presidency, “and it turned out not to be a serious one.

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Dianne3000 (talk) 14:42, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

The whole thing looks like a set up. The Biden regime instituted the system in November. Tulsi, Kash and others have been on the job for 2 weeks, with other pressing priorities and were unprepared or careless in securing communications. It was set up to embarrass them and cause a loss of public confidence.
Waltz may not lose his job right away, but nobody can trust him anymore. Wait a few weeks til this blows over and assess the damage. But he's got one foot out the door. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:43, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Hegseth, like Trump in his first term, is unexperienced in the ways of government and only knows it from outside. He walked into a trap. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:47, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Trump is concerned about the loss of public confidence, so he covers for Waltz. A secure system will be set up elsewhere, with Waltz cut out of the loop. Tulsi, Hegseth, Rubio et al will communicate with the White House through a Waltz deputy or some other point of contact on the National Security staff. Eventually Waltz will realize he's dead weight and resign. In the meantime, attacks on Tulsi, Hegseth and others' integrity will continue. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:01, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
“ If you want a friend in Washington, get a dog. ”

as they told Vince Foster, Alexander Haig, David Stockman, Scaramucci, others. Bernie Sanders, unlike Waltz, proves himself more savvy in dealing with the DC media who try to bait him into trash talking Chuck Schumer. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:08, March 25, 2025 (EDT)

To be fair, Waltz did the honorable thing and accepted the fault for adding JG. No?Telling (talk) 19:53, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
True, that's the cover story for now. But it's clear he was duped, either by a "trusted" staffer, or knowingly or unknowingly by Goldberg. Bottomline, Tulsi, Ratcliffe, or Hegseth would be idiots to trust him again anytime soon. And he is/was their main link to the White House and President Trump. Whatever the outcome, the Trump foreign policy agenda has been slowed, at least until the next disruption before all this gets sorted out.
I see this as a deep state attack on Tulsi & Hegseth. Ratcliffe handled it well. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:58, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
I think we see what's happening now: the day after, The Atlantic is demanding everybody's resignation - except Waltz. Mission Accomplished.
Rather than criticize Trump's judgement, I think we have a better idea how Trump operates (in the First Administration, Trump was often forced to accept people he didn't want cause of negative press, lawfare against people who did accept positions, or the corrupt FBI denying security clearances. Now we see the old Trump from the Apprentice at work: Waltz & Kinzinger were the only House members to criticize Trump for having the Taliban to Camp David for talks. So Trump says, 'Ok, I'll be fair and give you a chance. Let's see how good you can do' and invites Waltz to do the job. Waltz, like Kinzinger, is a duplicitous POS who thinks he's saving America by taking down Tulsi, Hegseth, and others & damaging Trump's reputation again. In the end, Trump can always override any stupid or bad decisions flunkies make. Heck, he got his appointee Wray to resign before he had to fire him. RobSZelensky Must Go! 02:24, March 27, 2025 (EDT)

Updates

(left) Mike Waltz (right) Jeff Goldberg.[2]
Update: Now Waltz denies everything (which means nobody on the Trump team can trust anybody else on the Trump team, for now). It surely wasn't the Deep State of the foremost power for the foreseeable future that did it. Must've been the evil Putin & Russia, huh? RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:22, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Update: 'Signal Gate' is a political operation intended to sow discord within the Trump White House. Six ways from Sunday. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:55, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Gatewaypundit: DEVELOPING: Was Mike Waltz a Source for Jeffrey Goldberg While Serving on House Intel Committee? See what I mean? After Waltz denying that he doesn't know or ever met Goldberg, conservative media questions his integrity. What should CP do now after User:Conservative worked so hard for so many years to rehab The Atlantic and globalist warmongers? Pretend this problem in the conservative movement doesn't exist? (See: Are ignorance and stupidity conservative values?) or flip-flop again (hypocritically) and take a position? RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:39, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Paul Sperry has a rock solid record of reporting in the Russiagate hoax, but I don't have time to record it in Conservapedia without a security guarantee from Andy (or see some disciplinary measures) against User:Conservative who is hell-bent on disrupting and negating my editing with Google bombs. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:12, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Sperry wrote, "a US intel official told me Waltz was a source for Goldberg while on HPSCI." Who was chair of HPSCI and would know who leaked to the Atlantic from the GOP side? Devin Nunes. Who is now a US intel official as chair of PIAB (President's Intelligence Advisory Board)? Devin Nunes. Who ultimately can advise President Trump if Waltz can be trusted? Nunes. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:09, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
So the question is, "Was it an honest mistake?" Essentially, it doesn't matter cause of the damage done. Tulsi, Hegseth, and Ratcliffe may have to take the hit for his sloppiness. He should go (albeit, under other circumstances). It may take a while to get rid of him, in the meantime nobody should trust him cause it's their necks on the block, and he should be cut out of the loop in high level discussions and decision making. Nunes has already spoken. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:18, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
  • Can I add, if you mean by neocons - those more leaning toward hawkish attitude on Putin per se, there are more on the Democratic side.Dianne3000 (talk) 17:48, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
USAID-funded Politico already has a word for it - "Signalgate" - which means it's not going away (as mentioned above, a "manufactured" scandal). Wyden has already demanded Waltz & Hegseth resignations.
This is extremely difficult now for Conservapedia to report on or dispute, given User:Conservative's untiring three year effort to rehab The Atlantic and Jeff Goldberg. RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:30, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Adding 2 cents.. Signal was used also under Biden... In any case, this is totally embarrassing.Telling (talk)
They don't care. They have their manufactured narrative now to attack the whole Trump administration as incompetent amateurs and destroy Trump's peace efforts - transforming President Trump into User:Conservative's vaunted wartime President. This pretty much upsets the whole Trump agenda.
Who cares what the facts are? As long as the public looses trust in the Trump administration - which User:Conservative laid solid foundations for with three years of warmongering - that's all that matters. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:31, March 25, 2025 (EDT)
Sundance update: [26] (1) The CIA tech team organized the Signal App operation (directory manipulation). That’s how Goldberg got in. (2) Jeffrey Goldberg held the story until the day before the scheduled SSCI hearing. (3) The SSCI uses the hearing to attack the Trump officials at the top of the critical silos.
Why? The CIA group doesn’t like the Trump Ukraine and Trump Russia policy.
The initials JG match somebody in the Trade Rep office, who Waltz supposedly thought was online. RobSZelensky Must Go! 01:10, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Jamieson Greer in the Trade Rep office. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:37, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
The cover up is pretty lame, but apparently necessary right now. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:15, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Yes, I heard that this morning about matching initials.

BTW. Unrelated to this case. But tne same app was used in...you know what...[27]Dianne3000 (talk) 18:57, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

IMO, it's directly related. The Steele dossier, Russiagate, Impeachment 1.0, the Biden crime family, 2020 Presidential election theft & the NATO war in Ukraine are all one and the same anti-Trump story originating with the same sources (of which Jeffrey Goldberg & The Atlantic are major players) which User:Conservative, with Andy's consent, disrupted and forced me to stop reporting on. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:17, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Update: ooh ooh. Trump’s Fury at Waltz Has Nothing to Do with Leaks!.
"Trump isn’t mad about the group chat discussion—he’s mad that Waltz had the reporter’s number in the first place." Tick tock. "While Trump publicly stood by Waltz, the incident strained trust within his inner circle...". Good. Toss that dead wright overboard at the first opportunity. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:27, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Politico: In private meeting, Vance and top advisers suggested Trump oust Waltz. "Where's the trust?"

The critical votes in WI...

"The most important race in America in 2025.". This [28] upcoming critical votes that can change GOP outcome.Telling (talk) 14:52, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

Sounds scary. Let's hope for the best.Dianne3000 (talk) 15:33, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Pam Bondi & Kash Patel need to get on the case of Reid Hoffman & the Crawford machine right away. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:59, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
As of now, Signal-gate is slowing things down. A bit.Telling (talk) 19:55, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
There's a lawsuit now. [29] Roll Call, Bipartisan chorus seeks probes after Signal group chat incident, etc etc. Looks like a 2026 Midterm election issue now. Thanks Ken. Thanks Andy. For making it easy for me to deal with. But like both of you, I don't care anymore. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:27, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
Thos would be lawsuit (so far brought by the Dems.) number???? I lost count.Telling (talk) 21:33, March 26, 2025 (EDT)
DOGE may have to hire back some lawyers to deal with all the lawsuits.
I'm done dealing with specifics until I see Andy take some action dealing with User:Conservative's trolling. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:38, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

4 US soldiers go missing in Lithuania

Growth of Western fascism.

[30] Maybe they got their throats slit by the local indigenous anti-fascist anti-NATO underground. Good luck trying to link them to Moscow. Resisters have been preparing for this ever since the West invaded last time and murdered their grandparents. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:24, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

  • Apparently the US military doesn't use GPS tracking for its soldiers.
Must've been mRNA vaxxed.
Oh, they drowned when their tank sank in a swamp.
Oh, no no no, they didn't "died", they were killed 6 miles from the Belarussian borders. Glad we got that all straightened out. Should NATO invoke Article 5 now? RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:39, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
See, this is what happens when you cut USAID funding. The propaganda matrix gets all screwed up. Budget cuts are a national security threat. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:09, March 27, 2025 (EDT)

CIA knows where Ark of the Covenant is???

Secret CIA files claim Ark of the Covenant has been found Daily Mail.Dianne3000 (talk) 22:49, March 26, 2025 (EDT)

Remote viewing is an innovation first used by the KGB and copied by the scientists and technocrats of the CIA. According to these intelligence experts, it works (or can work under certain circumstances with certain people). RobSZelensky Must Go! 10:41, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Hollywood might come up with a new movie? 1988? But if true it's very interesting. To say the least.Telling (talk) 22:45, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
If remote viewing is valid, then why aren't people using it to do insider trading, finding out the combinations of safes, finding out people's pin numbers or passwords? It's bunkum. If remote viewing is valid, then why are investors so much more wealthy than government salaried intelligence officers? Conservative (talk) 15:38, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

Let's hope, "palestinians" won't lynch him

The 2 million Arabs living in Israel all know the truth about the “Nakba”. https://x.com/HashemAllMighty/status/1900967761058431094 ___


shahid parwez BAS @andlibsh: Israel is a remarkable country that has always protected its minorities within its borders, ensuring their safety even in the face of provocations and attacks by their ethnic groups. We deeply appreciate and honor the Jewish people and the State of Israel. It didn't allow any communal riots to happen on its land on ethnic ground which is very common in other parts of the world. Quote Hashem @HashemAllMighty · Mar 15 The 2 million Arabs living in Israel all know the truth about the “Nakba”. This is a MUST watch. Pass it on. [31] Mar 16, 2025 [32]Dianne3000 (talk) 08:50, March 27, 2025 (EDT)

See this - "Two-state solution talk ‘not getting anywhere,’ says Gazan protesting Hamas."[33]. Duh..

UPDATE: See re Odai Naser Saadi.. Telling (talk) 23:44, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

BREAKING: Trump needs Elise here in Congress

Trump on Truth Social at 11:12 Arizona time:

As we advance our America First Agenda, it is essential that we maintain EVERY Republican Seat in Congress. We must be unified to accomplish our Mission, and Elise Stefanik has been a vital part of our efforts from the very beginning. I have asked Elise, as one of my biggest Allies, to remain in Congress to help me deliver Historic Tax Cuts, GREAT Jobs, Record Economic Growth, a Secure Border, Energy Dominance, Peace Through Strength, and much more, so we can MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN. With a very tight Majority, I don’t want to take a chance on anyone else running for Elise’s seat. The people love Elise and, with her, we have nothing to worry about come Election Day. There are others that can do a good job at the United Nations. Therefore, Elise will stay in Congress, rejoin the House Leadership Team, and continue to fight for our amazing American People. Speaker Johnson is thrilled! I look forward to the day when Elise is able to join my Administration in the future. She is absolutely FANTASTIC. Thank you Elise!

[34]Dianne3000 (talk) 14:38, March 27, 2025 (EDT)

Geez, you would think they would have thought about this months ago before nominating her. I thought approval for the Trump agenda was increasing since election day. Maybe they are waiting to the outcome of WI SCOTUS vote threatening 2 GOP seats, cited above. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:44, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Right. Well, maybe, now, there is more pressure post Signalgate (and fears for weakening backup when votes are needed), and possibly to avoid (FL. Seat) Waltz to making him the fall guy? I'm not sure.. Telling (talk)
I don't know how they can keep up the ruse, pretending Waltz is a "team player" with Tulsi & Hegseth (the real targets). They did a good job shuttling the blame back on The Atlantic. But Waltz has been exposed as part of an anti-Trump conspiracy again, calling into question Trump's judgement, again. In a week or two, other events, scandals, or manufactured scandals will overshadow the current fiasco. Waltz will be booted or resign to teach, spend more time with family, be reassigned as Ambassador to the Chagos Islands or something, You know the drill. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:41, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Mearsheimer's weighed in: The Signal Scandal: Another Signal that the U.S. is in Deep Kimchi. I think we're in the midst of a cabinet reshuffle. If Stefaniak isn't Waltz's replacement, she may be being prepped to takeover somebody else's position who is. RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:01, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Simplicius always has an interesting take. I'm going to redact a portion cause it's obviously a bit inflammatory: "It’s clear that a coordinated operation is ongoing to destabilize Trump’s rule in any way possible. While the Europeans hamstring and undercut the Ukraine war settlement at every turn, American deep state forces are attempting to paralyze the Trump administration with concocted scandals. The latest is ‘Signal-Gate’, obviously spun-together by the [redacted] Jeffrey Goldberg, operative head of the Atlantic rag, as a scheme to discredit and slowly chip away at Trump’s key cabinet members.
"There is a war going on, as Trump slowly fights to cleanse this deep state faction, seen today with his executive order on the declassification of ‘Russia Hoax’ Operation Crossfire Hurricane. The Goldberg setup could very well have been designed to take heat off any revelations soon to come from the above." [35] RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:12, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
There's another possibility re:Stefaniak: They need her in Congress for the budget bills for FY 2026, which is usually voted on in May. Then they go on break in June. By then we'll know the outcome of the WI SCOTUS election and Signalgate should be old news. There may be several job openings by then, including possibly still the UN seat. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:46, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
Could be.Telling (talk) 22:19, March 27, 2025 (EDT)
There's a double edge to this - GOP already using it for fundraising to show how narrow the margin is in the House. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:53, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

Special elections

Let's hope for big GOP turn out today in WI/FL. [36]Dianne3000 (talk) 10:07, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

Wisconsin seems to be more risky, as of now. As the FL district is Republican stronghold. Telling (talk) 10:09, April 1, 2025 (EDT)
  • [37] GOP fend off Dems. in FL special elections - House seat.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:57, April 1, 2025 (EDT)
Green Bay Central Count Corruption WI Supreme Court Race. RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:53, April 1, 2025 (EDT)
Bad news from Wisconsin...[38].Telling (talk) 23:10, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

MoA: Trump's Rewritten 'Deal' With Ukraine Is Imposed Indentured Servitude

"The Trump administration wants to press Ukraine into infinite indentured servitude for payments and weapons previously delivered by the Biden administration with no conditions attached to them.

Hedge fund mogul and U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent has (re-)written the 'mineral deal':" [39]

How do you like that? Now they want to make Ukraine the 53rd state after Canada & Puerto Rico.

So, a guy comes knocking on your door and gives you, free of charge, enough guns to shoot up the neighborhood. Then, after your family is killed, house burnt down and half the neighborhood destroyed he wants to send you a bill for the original weapons. The deal is made to be rejected. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:08, March 27, 2025 (EDT)

America First

Why are we worried about China's economy? [40] Don't we have bigger things to worry about in the America First movement? like war in the Red Sea and elsewhere, or the biggest job loss in February (Trump effect & DOGE) since the covid pandemic? Is this just to satisfy User:Conservative's ego & Sinophobia? RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:56, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

So, here's what is likely to happen in coming days: An air war commences in Ukraine with French & British fighter jets taking off from Poland, Ramstein, and Romania. Depending on their effectiveness, Russia may decide to attack Poland, Germany and/or Romania. Then there will be cries to invoke NATO Article 5. Trump then has to decide if he wants to flush his name, reputation, and presidency down the toilet as a warmonger. Even if he decides to "support the allies", the annual CIA Threat Assessment issued a few days ago by Tulsi Gabbard & John Ratcliffe says NATO & the United States can't win.
However, for some reason, Conservapedia thinks deflation and falling tax revenue in China is a bigger story. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:08, March 28, 2025 (EDT)

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Tesla riots

My neighbor lady went to the Tesla riots today. It's a family event with her sister, grandkids, nieces and nephews. I told her not to take her cell phone cause of the GPS tracking and she'll end up in the DC gulag even if she's a quarter mile away from the Tesla dealership. She said that don't matter cause there's more of them than cops. I told her Kash will hunt her down and a SWAT team will show up at the door in 3 months. She doesn't think that would happen. I'll have to explain to her about false flags if she gets back, cause she won't make bail, no visitors and no due process until President Walz pardons her in four years. And some people say I don't have interpersonal skills. RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:35, March 29, 2025 (EDT)

Trump PO'd

Naval Station Norfolk, the main naval base of the US Navy on the east coast of the country, hosted a tanker on 7 December 2023 that delivered 50,000 tonnes of Russian oil products to the facility on a direct voyage from Novorossiysk in the Russian Federation. US Naval Station Norfolk hosts tanker with Russian oil products, bypassing embargo, Ukrainska Pravda, December 7, 2023. news.yahoo.com]

What a farce. Trump knew Putin's position from the beginning. Trump essentially is admitting failure, and that he is not the "peace" candidate.

What's he gonna do? put sanctions on Russian oil that the Pentagon buys, so the taxpayers can pay more and increase the deficit? or on Russian diesel, so that you can pay more at the grocery store for food delivered by truck? RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:22, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

No wonder Consumer inflation expectations are at a 32-year high. Call it "Putin's price hike" or the Trump effect. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:47, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Face it, Biden, globalists, and User:Conservative did a good job "Trump-proofing" the war.

Russia is not going to be a good sport and help bail out the West from its public relations disaster for NATO's defeat.

Update: Zelensky may move elections from October up to July to cut competitors out. [41]

Trump was PO'd cause Putin publicly called out Zelensky's illegitimate status as president with no legal authority to negotiate or sign deals (looks like a job for Dominion Voting Systems now). [42]
What a farce this whole, not even 24-hour news cycle, has been.
First, Trump calls Welker early to say he's PO'd at Putin. She runs with a headline. By 7pm, Trump trashes Welker and Press the Meet. If I were Welker, I wouldn't be so stupid to take the bait next time she gets a call from the President just before going on air. But you know these types, they'll never learn. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:56, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Yes. I saw the headline today about :::Trump bring p.o. at Putin.Telling (talk) 23:43, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Broad outlines of peace deal taking shape

Broad outlines of a peace deal are taking shape. The first two obstacles to overcome are the racist attitudes of Americans (as exhibited by User:Conservative in Conservapedia) on the American side, and the justifiable lack of trust toward Americans on the Russian side. But this is the vision shared by Vladimir Putin & Donald Trump if those two hinderances can be put aside eventually:

  • US & Russian partnership and cooperation on rare earth mineral deals, oil, and natural gas extraction in Ukraine, Russia, and the Arctic.
  • US & Russian formal recognition of revised borders to include US possession of Greenland (with cooperation on mineral and gas extraction) and the revised Ukraine rump state borders, with Crimea, Donetsk, Lugansk, Kherson, Zaporozhe, Kharkov & Odessa going to Russia (with cooperation on mineral and gas extraction) (this leaves ambiguous the status of Dnipropetrovsk, Sumy & Nikolaev, which still has to be worked out). Kiev, Lvov, Ivano-Frankivsk and probably Vinnitsa will remain the heart of the Ukrainian rump state. These issues will have to be decided by local plebiscites - excluding the areas already incorporated into the Russian Federation. What's likely to happen, although far from a certainty yet, is will the Ukrainian rump state be landlocked (like Serbia or the Kurdish province in Iraq), or will the Ukrainian rump state have a "corridor to the sea" like Poland had between 1919 and 1939. Being that the Russians have won the war, no sea access is likely (meaning Ukraine can pay tariffs for all imports and exports passing through Russian territory. Too bad, but that's the price future generations of Ukrainian producers & consumers have to pay for this generation crawling in bed with Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Joe Biden, Barack Obama or listening to racist scum like User:Conservative). Another remaining issue is, Who will supervise the referendums? Certainly not the OSCE or any other NATO power involved in aggressive operations against Russia. There are some side issues in play, for example, Can Hungary reclaim Transcarpathia as Ukraine is dismembered. Transnistria also likely will return to Russia from Moldova.
  • The efforts of Putin & Trump to bring Xi Jinping into nuclear arms limitation and non-proliferation talks.RobSZelensky Must Go! 03:00, April 2, 2025 (EDT)
Updates:
All this negates the obsolete spam trolling nonsense User:Conservative edit warred over this AM and afternoon - made obsolete by President Donald Trump himself Sun, Mar 30 at ~7PM EDT.

“This is the price for those who criticize ("palestine") Hamas.”

So there was one courageous one there... And:

Hassan@IhabHassane:

The family of 22-year-old Odai Nasser Saadi Al-Rubai, who was kidnapped, tortured, and murdered by Hamas militias, opened fire during his funeral and vowed to avenge his death.

Mourners turned the funeral into a protest against Hamas, chanting: "Hamas out, out!"

Mar 29, 2025 [43]

Hamas Executes Anti-Hamas Protest Leader, Dumps Body with Warning Message

Mar 30, 2025:

🚨 The Hamas terror group murdered one of the leaders of the anti-Hamas protests that took place in Gaza last week. Over the weekend, Hamas terrorists abducted Odai Naser Saadi, 22, tortured him for four hours and executed him. They then dumped his body at the doorstep of his family’s home with a message: “This is the price for those who criticize Hamas.”

[44]Telling (talk) 23:40, March 30, 2025 (EDT)

Elon Musk to visit CIA

Watch. He'll be singing a different tune when he comes out. RobSZelensky Must Go! 11:35, March 31, 2025 (EDT)

Make America British Again

Will Canada become the 51st state of the US or the US become the 57th member of the British Commonwealth? [45] RobSZelensky Must Go! 23:26, April 1, 2025 (EDT)

UK pothole crisis

The tripe about the UK pothole crisis was inserted as the lead headline at 5AM this morning. The UK pothole crisis mainspace article was originally created with malicious intent to troll alleged "UK atheists". It was inserted again this morning, as the lead headline, with malicious intent to troll other Conservapedia editors.

Andy, your efforts to get a handle on User:Conservative's trolling has not, and is not working. Your efforts to end User:Conservative's & Brian MacDonald's use of the Sysop email list for personal attacks, again, has not worked. Again, both violated your requests and instructions within 90 days.

Islamist in MI Belal Qureshi who incited to kill ICE agents

Realtor or Radical? TikToker with Possible Michigan Ties Urges Followers to Shoot at ICE Agents. Apr 1, 2025. Still listed online as a Michigan real estate agent associated with Amin Realty in Warren, Michigan, Belal Qureshi is now suspected of trading home sales for spreading unhinged violence on the internet. And although authorities haven’t confirmed it’s the same man, the signs are pointing that way. [46]Dianne3000 (talk) 01:17, April 2, 2025 (EDT)

I'm glad he is exposed. It's simply dangerous, what he said on TikTok. Prosecute himTelling (talk) 13:03 April 3, 2025 (EDT)

Tariffs: Wait and see

Trump's hard tarrifs especially on "Dirty 15":

Trump's reciprocal tariffs aim to address what the Trump administration views as persistent and unfair trade imbalances, targeting specifically the 'Dirty 15,' a group of nations including China, Canada, Mexico, Japan, Germany, and India, among others. Countries such as Canada and Mexico have already voiced their readiness to counteract, while India, Japan, and China seek diplomatic routes to soften the blow and protect their economic interests.[47]. Meantime, the MSM adds to panic...

Trump's reciprocal tariffs for "dirty 15"

Let's hope, pray for the best.

There is no way of knowing yet, how this plays out (for the long run).Telling (talk) 12:48, April 3, 2025 (EDT)

It's an ambitious program, and I'm not being critical. But let's hope we see some real economic progress before the 2026 Midterms. In the meantime, it degenerates into another propaganda war (with violence). RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:14, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
Sure. It can go either way. But the MSM adds to panic. And some gloat when the stock market falls.Telling (talk) 14:02, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
Can a factory relocate from abroad and be built, hire thousands of workers at good paying jobs (which itself is inflationary) in 18 months? America could be back on its suicide mission by the time we begin seeing results of this ambitious project.
The hiring process itself could be time consuming as we do not have an educated workforce. Once the manufacturing plants are built and open it will take time for the schools & votechs to adjust to the demands for new skills. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:50, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
I presume, Trump is also waiting for some concessions/'deals', as a result.Telling (talk) 23:49, April 3, 2025 (EDT)
  • China's announcement of 34% retaliatory and Powell isn't helping either...Dianne3000 (talk) 17:50, April 4, 2025 (EDT)
This is happening all over the planet, not that it wasn't anticipated. China & Canada are only news cause they're the biggest trading partners. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:46, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Peter Schiff

Update: Peter Schiff: Glenn Diesen: Peter Schiff: Tariffs & the Coming Economic Collapse.
“ Tariffs will reduce our trade deficits because it's going to make imports prohibitively expensive for a lot of Americans. So Americans will consume less but we're not going to produce much more. We just don't have the capacity right now to do that. And we don't have the regulatory environment. We don't have the labor environment. We don't have the supply chains. We don't have the infrastructure or the factories. So we're just going to have to do without a lot of the products that are being tariffed. ”
In other words, tighten the belt, (in a way?)Dianne3000 (talk) 22:07, April 5, 2025 (EDT)
It's a longterm, long overdue structural change away from the Bretten Woods system established in 1944. It won't be accomplished before the 2026 Midterms or in Trump 2.0 administration.
In a way, it's similar to the "Shock Therapy" established in Russia in the 1990s with the collapse of the Soviet Union that eventually led to the rise of Putin. Only instead of leading the USSR away from an autarky to integrate into the globalist system, this is the opposite - leading America away from a globalist system (which was what Bretten Woods built) to greater self-sufficiency.
Ben Shapiro trashed Liberation Day tariffs - the biggest tax increase in the history of the planet.

Gerald Celente

My biggest fear is User:Conservative running rampant in Conservapedia with more unqualified crackpot ideas and propaganda over the next few years. He's already backtracked on his hero Gerald Celente with his Russophobic hate screeds. Topic ban? RobSZelensky Must Go! 22:46, April 5, 2025 (EDT)
Let's take Milton Friedman's 1980 book, Free to Choose, a response to Jimmy Carter's "malaise" and became the gospel of free market economics and free trade for a generation, for example. While the book remains a vital educational resource, few MAGA proponents quote it today (including Phyllis Schlafly). That phase has passed. Trump tariffs restrict Americans' right to choose foreign goods. RobSZelensky Must Go! 23:29, April 5, 2025 (EDT)
Meantime.. Newsom ..

California is not Washington’: Newsom asks countries to spare state from retaliation.[48] Competing with AOC?Telling (talk) 23:40, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Newsom probably has a better chance than AOC - he's moderating his rhetoric while AOC (and Walz) are going peddle-to-meddle defending crackpot leftism. RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:07, April 6, 2025 (EDT)
Gerald Celente: On the Path to Economic Collapse, Social Decadence & War.
The renowned trend forecaster Gerald Celente joins the program to discuss the precarious path the US and the collective West are heading down. Economic decline, social decadence and war are all part of the larger trend, without any clear path to reverse the decline.

Victor Davis Hanson

Victor Davis Hanson jumps in with a discussion of Hoot-Smally:
“ Moderator: The United States is the strongest country in the world and expected to be paternal to the rest of the nations.

Victor Davis Hanson: Okay, so we're going to be a patsy for a long time, because we think it's 1947 forever where, right after World War II, flushed with cash and we're the colossus astride in the entire world, and that's in perpetuity. No, [49]

”
refuting User:Conservative's claim that The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future.
RobSZelensky Must Go! 00:59, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

Update: Vietnam, Taiwan Capitulate: Offer To Remove All US Tariffs, Boost Investment.

See, we're back to the same problem we had in the 1980s when the free trade movement got underway: Can nations like Vietnam afford to pay for high-priced goods produced with high-priced American labor (which include things like the cost of Obamacare, maternity leave for homosexual marriages, etc.)? So does it really matter if there's matching import duties on American goods sold to Vietnam (like Boeing or other expensive duel-use military industrial complex exports) while they sell cheap shoes here? How many pairs of Nikes = 1 Boeing aircraft in a "basket of goods", etc.? Developing story. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:27, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

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By now, it's: Trump's allies: Musk, Cruz, Ackman, as well as Jamie Dimon vocal against Trump's tariff. Let's hope for best outcome.Telling (talk) 16:39, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Peter Navarro had a pro-tariff opinion piece published by The Financial Times at Donald Trump’s tariffs will fix a broken system. Conservative (talk) 20:02, April 7, 2025 (EDT)
Thanks Conservative, Telling, RobS, We are all praying for the best.Dianne3000 (talk) 03:26, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
The decisions are all up to the American consumer. Looks like prices at Dollar Tree will double overnite. Fortunately, with the disappearance of cheap manufactured goods there won't be much job loss in America (except certain retailers); it just will take time to develop the industry for import substitution (kinda like Russia experienced after 2014) but a tremendous opportunity for entrepreneurs. It's the inflation we have to deal with right now, somewhat offset by cheaper energy. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:21, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
Musk calls Navarro an "idiot". All is not well. Musk is P'Od cause to build a rocket, component parts come from all over the world, subject to tariff's now. He can either build them here at higher wage rates, or move the whole operation outside America. Problem: We don't have the manufacturing base or skilled work force.
This leads to discussion about the stupidity of supplying long range missiles to Ukraine or shooting down $200 drones from Yemen with $4 million missiles. One of the theories of globalism going back to the 1980s was that outsourcing manufacturing would lead to less wars in a more economiclly integrated world.
Badlands Media has an interesting article by Matt Ehret (a Canadian, young guy, developing quite a reputation):
Reports: Global economy at a stand still like March 2020 when covid pandemic broke out. RobSZelensky Must Go! 16:41, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
“ imagine two foreign nations, say China and Brazil, trading with each other. Neither country has a currency that is trusted, liquid, and convertible, which makes trading with each other challenging. However, because they can transact in U.S. dollars backed by U.S. Treasuries, they are able to trade freely with each other and prosper. ”
He's out of touch. That's the way the world used to work. Not anymore:
Going to war with a BRICS member was a big mistake, something that will takes years, if not decades to repair and rebuild trust. RobSZelensky Must Go! 18:22, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
Update: FT: Europe braces for flood of Chinese goods after US tariffs.
This just speeds up de-industrialization of Europe, just as it did in the US after 2002 when MFN was granted. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:44, April 12, 2025 (EDT)

Democrat Lawmakers Compare Parent Groups Opposing Trans Bill to the ‘KKK’

Democrat Lawmakers Compare Parent Groups Opposing Trans Bill to the ‘KKK’. [50]

Colorado Democrat lawmakers smeared parental rights groups opposing the radical new transgender bill by comparing them to “the KKK” during a committee hearing this week.

Rep. Jarvis Caldwell: Rep. Jarvis Caldwell.

SHAMEFUL 🚨 Last night during closing statements on HB25-1312, Transgender Protections, two House Judiciary members referred to traditional parental rights groups as “hate groups” & compared them to the KKK. #coleg #copolitics.

A new low.Dianne3000 (talk) 22:12, April 6, 2025 (EDT)

Mike Waltz update

Much of Waltz staff was just fired. [51] This is reminiscent of Gen. Michael Flynn's resignation in 2017. The Comey-McCabe-Strzok FBI denied security clearances for Flynn's staff. If you can't choose your own staff, you can't do your job. Loomer presented evidence that Mike Waltz's staff worked for putzs like Leon Panetta, Mike Morell and others who just had their security clearances revoked in the Laptop from Hell scandal. Waltz days apparently are numbered. RobSZelensky Must Go! 15:54, April 5, 2025 (EDT)

Guardian: New cover story for Waltz. RobSZelensky Must Go! 08:33, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Punchbowl News: Tariffs put White House on collision course with the Hill

Update. RobSZelensky Must Go! 07:11, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Update: Japan stocks close down 8%, Hong Kong 12%. NYSE opens in the red (probably close as a day of slaughter}.
User:Conservative, probably the "Trump Effect", eh? How are you/we going to deal with this? C'mon now, this is what discussion pages are for, collaboration skills.
One problem I see, User:Conservative is, the same sources trash talking Trump tariffs are the same warmongering & globalist sources you use to trash talk Putin/Russia and promote the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. RobSZelensky Must Go! 09:51, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Same lib. Boasberg gives slap on the wrist on "palestine" fascist vandal

Pro-Hamas vandal of federal statue gets 10 days in jail, must pay $1,500. The National Park Service estimated that Zaid Mohammed Mahdawi caused some $11,000 in damage. Zaid Mohammed Mahdawi, who caused $11,282.23 in damage for his pro-Hamas vandalism outside Washington’s Union Station per the National Park Service, was sentenced to 10 days in prison, six months of supervision, 80 hours of community service and $1,500 in restitution, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia stated on Friday. Mahdawi, 26, of Richmond, Va., pleaded guilty on Jan. 23 to the misdemeanor of destroying government property. He spray-painted “Hamas is coming” on a statue outside the train station and took down an American flag on July 24, 2024, during a riot in response to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s visit to the U.S. capital. James Boasberg, chief judge of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, who has made headlines for his oversight of a controversial case involving the deportation of gang members, who are in the country illegally, to El Salvador, sentenced Mahdawi in the vandalism case.. [52]Dianne3000 (talk)

Those are the criminal charges. There's nothing stopping the Park Service from suing him to reclaim the damages, which they should do. (btw, Trump owns Union Station). RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:34, April 7, 2025 (EDT)
Great idea. I hope they follow suit- pun intended. Dianne3000 (talk) 14:40, April 7, 2025 (EDT)
And if he is on a visa, then...Telling (talk) 16:36, April 7, 2025 (EDT)

Dow Jones UP

Dow Jones Today: Stocks Gain on Hopes for Deals on Tariffs But Down From Earlier Highs. Stocks were higher in late-morning trading Tuesday, though well off their early-session highs, as volatile trading continues amid uncertainty about tariffs. [53]Dianne3000 (talk) 12:13, April 8, 2025 (EDT)

Sundance of the Conservative Treehouse has spent much time and effort explaining how, contrary to popular belief, and due to globalization, Wall Street is no longer a barometer of the American economy.
You can begin here, in February 2016 when Trump was running for Trump 1.0, Sundance explains MAGAnomics.
Sundance regularly updates the series, most recently 2 days ago.
Apparently, Trump always had the intention to implement the tariff program in his first term. But the Deep State, with Russiagate, had other plans for perpetual war, the NATO war in Ukraine, etc., and disrupted Trump's agenda with investigations, impeachment, lawfare, etc. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:41, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
We are in a wave of 'unstable days'. We look forward for a great benefit. Let's watch after midnight reactions too.Telling (talk) 21:39, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
"There is no security on this earth; there is only opportunity." - Douglas MacArthur
Trump's top economic adviser says 50 countries have reached out to negotiate tariffs
Until the Trump Administration negotiates with all the parties involved who are willing to negotiate, it might be difficult to know how much the tariffs will affect the USA's economy. Conservative (talk) 21:50, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
You'll see the effects immediately in Walmart's everyday low prices, or at Dollar General, Dollar Tree, and Family Dollar, if they're still in business. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:56, April 8, 2025 (EDT)
Lee Camp: Wall Street MELTDOWN — Or Is It Trump’s Master Plan?!
Asides from Bibi meeting and announcing publicly with Trump 2 days ago, we don't know who and what and how many countries contacted and what was promised/or not. (Re DollarGeneral, they, specifically,, announced of major closings already 2 weeks ago).Telling (talk) 03:32, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
Breaking: Trump increases tariff charge on China to 125%, puts 90 day pause on tariffs for other countries.
This is a dagger aimed at the heart of globalism.
Note: Placing tariffs on the whole planet was to close a loophole of China evading tariffs by using other countries. The 90 pause is a temporary respite to sort things out: Daily Caller: Trump Sends Markets Soaring With Big Tariff Announcement: "Trump announced a 90-day pause on tariffs for roughly 75 countries that did not issue retaliatory tariffs". RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:51, April 9, 2025 (EDT)
The excitement over the stock rally based on the 90 day reprieve is crazy; the capital gains holding period is 1 year, not 90 days.
While nobody, nobody has a clear handle on what is happening and what is about to happen, Amit Sengupta has an interesting take on Trump's strategy: 10% of Americans own 90% of all stocks, the bottom 50% own nothing but debt. Trump is trying to intentionally crash the stock market to force investors out of stocks and into equities, i.e. US Treasury debt, to lower interest rates.
When you couple this with Sundance's argument that Wall Street, controlled by globalists, is no longer a barometer of the economic condition of Main Street, it can make sense. RobSZelensky Must Go! 13:50, April 10, 2025 (EDT)

The 'in', is 'out' with that app by Biden...

Trump orders ONE MILLION migrants who used Biden-era app to enter the US to leave 'immediately' Pam Bondi also said yesterday, many migrants just put down whatever "origin" country they 'chose' to type in...Telling (talk) 03:43, April 9, 2025 (EDT)

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