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Siegel was shot in the hand and his ribs were broken during the Oct. 7 attack. His wounds weren't treated until he was freed more than a year later. He said Hamas also tried to convert him to Islam. He was beaten at random and without warning, sexually assaulted, forced to watch as other hostages were beaten and assaulted, starved and humiliated, forced to make Hamas videos, spat on and forcibly shaved. He said he was kept alone in a locked room for six months. Keith Siegel recounts his Hamas captivity to foreign diplomats, AJC membersDianne3000 (talk) 04:32, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

He is from NC.

Hostage, NC native Keith Siegel released by Hamas on mission to lobby Trump, Israel to reach deal to free remaining hostages - ABC11 Raleigh-Durham. After 484 days in Hamas captivity, former hostage Keith Siegel finds purpose in his new mission. WABC.

..."In tunnels 130 feet underground, barely being able to breathe, gasping for my breath, for our breath. Deprived of food, water, and sanitation."... "I was kicked by terrorists, I was spat on by terrorists, cursed, just out of the blue with nothing that I had done that might provoke that"...

Of the remaining hostages, five are Americans, but just one -- 20-year-old Edan Alexander of Tenafly, New Jersey -- is still alive.

He is not the only one starving hostage whom they tried to convert.Dianne3000 (talk) 02:04, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

We might never know 'how' so many hostages were murdered...Telling (talk) 18:46, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

Starvation is no.1Dianne3000 (talk) 15:40, May 2, 2025 (EDT)

Check it out: "After the quake, Myanmar prays." PeterKa (talk) 22:08, April 18, 2025 (EDT)

Check it out: President AOC? Analysts Predict She's a Top 2028 Contender. PeterKa (talk) 06:34, April 21, 2025 (EDT)

Yes. First let us all see midterm elections results. There is also the Crockett an AOC wannabe maybe...Dianne3000 (talk) 23:39, April 23, 2025 (EDT)

This [2] one has a list and grades them..Dianne3000 (talk)

Thanks for the link, D.Telling (talk) 16:26, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Revolver is a great source. I'm glad we have somebody covering it. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:31, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

When the traitor Judas hung himself, they cast lots to pick his apostollic replacement (Acts 1:12-26). With that in mind, "On betting markets so far on Tuesday, Pietro Parolin, the current Vatican's secretary of state, is the leading candidate to succeed Pope Francis. He is followed by Luis Antonio Tagle, the former archbishop of Manila, and Peter Turkson of Ghana, who would be the first Black pope in modern history." - The next pope’s identity is a mystery. Betting markets have an idea who it will be., 2025. See also: Who will be the next Pope, Polymarket.com Conservative (talk) 16:52, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

Oh really? Who choses Apostles, God or man? 1 Cor 9:1. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:56, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

"Pope Francis has appointed 108 of the 135 cardinals who are eligible to vote in a papal conclave, which means he has appointed 80% of the voting members. He has also created 163 cardinals in total, representing 76 countries."[3]

It would take a miracle for a dream Pope of conservatives to win, but miracles do happen! "Oh, we heard church people say. They are in the holy way. There are strange things happening everyday. Oh, the last man, judgment day. When they drive him all away. There are strange things happening everyday." - Sister Rosetta Tharpe - Strange Things Happening Every Day. Conservative (talk) 17:41, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

It would make sense if you understood what "conservative" means. It does not mean stupid & ignorant. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:27, April 22, 2025 (EDT)

• Cardinal Pierbattista Pizzaballa certainly has the funniest name. Cardinal Robert Sarah of Guinea is an anti-woke dream candidate. PeterKa (talk) 08:47, April 23, 2025 (EDT)
• Thanks Peter. Maybe he will change his name, like Francis did?Telling (talk) 10:39, April 23, 2025 (EDT)

Or: what is hypocrisy?

Socialists AOC, Bernie Sanders took $15K-per-hour private jet to attend ‘Fighting Oligarchy’ rally.Dianne3000 (talk) 14:50, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Remember that study saying America is an oligarchy? 3 rebuttals say it's wrong., 2016 - Ordinary citizens get what they want about half the time.

Senator Phil Gramm & The Myth of American Inequality, 2023 (Video). Conservative (talk) 15:05, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

This book that I bought is an excellent book: Equality: The Impossible Quest by Professor Martin Van Creveld. Conservative (talk) 15:07, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Book sounds interesting. Who is the author?Telling (talk)

Professor Martin Van Creveld's bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld

Creveld's book is very interesting. It does have about two sentences of evolutionist bunkum, but the book is a very solid book. So don't let two sentences of that book dissuade you from buying it.

Creveld also authored this book which looks very interesting: The Privileged Sex: "Ever since Betty Friedan published The Feminine Mystique back in 1963, all of us have been told that women are discriminated against, oppressed, exploited, and abused by men. The barrage of accusations is intense, relentless, and seems to have neither beginning nor end. But are the charges true? Do women really have a worse time of it than men? This volume, one of the very few in any language, takes on these questions head on. Roaming far and wide, it examines many aspects of the problem as it has presented itself from the time of ancient Egypt right down to today’s most advanced Western societies. To anyone accustomed to the tsunami of feminist claims and complaints, the answers will come as a surprise."

Crevel's Privileged Sex 2013 book does seem to have been insightful. If memory serves, more women now go to college than men (where they are indoctrinated in liberal/public universities). But maybe that is partly due to men going into the military and in professions that require brawn such as construction. Of course, men have more "Ma-Cheese-Mo" and that is why the GOP is more powerful now and the Democrats are in sad shape. :) One of the definitions of machismo is an exhilarating sense of power or strength.[4] :) Conservative (talk) 09:18, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

This is an area we evidently need to expand coverage of in the coming months: Vaughn Cordle: The Oligarchy Hoax: How Democrats use Marxist rhetoric to mask their elite power exposing the Left's manipulation of populist rhetoric to protect its oligarchic interests and control the narrative. [5] RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 09:43, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

This should be something to look forward to.Telling (talk) 18:44, April 24, 2025 (EDT)

Because there are so many voters who are independents, Trump recognizes that it can be good to flood the information zone and that sometimes means being interviewed by liberal, moderate and conservative news sources. But you have to be skillful at being interviewed. But for conservatives, its often good to refuse to be interviewed by the press due to selective editing and/or dishonest reporters.

The Atlantic, like many publications, does have some good articles such as this one: The Peculiar Blindness of Experts. But it does lean left/liberal such as this article: Hitler’s Terrible Tariffs. Obviously, the unspoken propaganda is "Trump is Hitler! And Hitler loved tariffs! Tariffs are evil and bad!

The reality is that the strategic use of tariffs can result in good things happening as can be seen at: The REAL Reason the US Is Betting on Tariffs. Conservative (talk) 09:34, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

Yes. If it works, still, IMHO, it would have been smarter to enact it in sections, [Asia this week, Europe in some time later, etc.] with some time apart..Telling (talk) 21:21, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

I just read The Atlantic is owned by Steve Jobs widow. Is that true? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 23:26, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

• Read The Atlantic’s Interview With Donald Trump A conversation with the president about executive power, Signalgate, and 24-karat gold, By Jeffrey Goldberg, April 28, 2025. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:41, April 29, 2025 (EDT)

A week ago today Trump sat down with Jeff Goldberg. Today Mike Waltz gets canned. Looks like Trump is doing his own investigations. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 12:54, May 1, 2025 (EDT)

After the media went after Hegseth instead of Waltz, I'm convinced that Signalgate was no accident. My theory is Waltz had the conversation leaked on purpose hoping that it would lead to Hegseth being ousted. Why? Because while Hegseth may have his own interventionist tendencies, the neocon wing of the Trump's staff hate him for questioning some of their "party line," so they want him gone. Meanwhile, you have Hegseth staffers who have been fired for "leaking," only to go on Tucker Carlson and accuse their former colleagues of framing them for similar reasons. So now that Signalgate failed to get Hegseth himself fired, the neocons are using similar tactics against Hegseth's staffers so that he is surrounded by nobody but ideologues in the Pentagon. If they can't break him, they'll try to re-make him. Absolutely disgusting. Trump shouldn't have reassigned Waltz to the UN, he should've straight up fired him. He should also fire Rubio, and perhaps Bessent as well.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:09, May 1, 2025 (EDT)

Agree on Signalgate. I think they were going after Tulsi, as well.

As to Rubio serving as NatSec, that's a joke. The job of NatSec is in the White House Situation Room 24/7 while the president is sleeping etc., and the job of the Secretary of State is flying around the world all the time. The Secretary of State only returns to Washington for less than a week or so every month to report to Congress. So we're not being told the whole truth who in the White House right now is receiving information from Tulsi & Rubio daily, and briefing the president every morning (not that Trump ever had that as a priority, as other presidents have). RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:23, May 1, 2025 (EDT)

“May their father be cursed” – Mahmoud Abbas curses America twice in televised speech. We, suckers..Dianne3000 (talk) 16:57, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

Maybe a mother billion will do?Telling (talk) 18:02, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

• Chinese Manufacturers Are Exposing Luxury Brands.
• Melania trolls the EU fashion world, who are upset about her husband’s tariffs, while carrying her Hermes purse. So subtle and yet so funny.

To quote Joseph Schumpeter:

RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:58, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

Greenfield:

People really need to stop falling for these fake polls.

People are absolutely convinced that the vast majority Jews vote for and support Democrats. Where do those numbers come from? Mostly Democrat polls like this.... Currently, JLI is headed by Joel Rubin, “a founding Board Member of the Jewish Democratic Council of America; the founding Political Director of J Street; a surrogate for the Obama 2012 campaign; the national Jewish Outreach Director for the Sanders 2020 presidential campaign; and a member of the Jewish teams for the Biden-Harris 2020 and Harris-Walz 2024 campaigns.”

In short, a leftist anti-Israel activist who used to work for the Bernie ‘Destroy Israel” Sanders campaign.[6]Telling (talk) 18:03, April 25, 2025 (EDT)

I don't know if all of these polls are "fake". Some could just be incompetent or unreliable because they don't use polls based on likely voters which are more expensive to conduct. You have to be more ingenuous/flexible via indirect methods and use a wider variety of the types of polling to capture the hidden Trump/conservative voters which are more difficult to poll. For example, ask questions on how they think their neighbors are going to vote so the demonization of Trump is mitigated in the polling. Conservative (talk) 09:49, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

At least this one is by radical progressive group with an agenda. Telling (talk) 21:23, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

Hanlon's Razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity". User: Conservative's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence/pride and/or mental illness. There are a lot liberals/leftists who are either incompetent/proud and/or mentally ill. And this also applies to liberal/leftist pollsters. Conservative (talk) 22:07, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

On the other hand, Steve Turley maintains that liberal/leftist polls purposefully falsify polls to raise funds and gain support (bandwagon effect), but then as the election nears, they have the polls be closer to the actual results so they are not totally embarrassed. Conservative (talk) 22:09, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

• Alex Krainer: Failure of London 'peace' talks precipitates financial crash in Europe and Britain. [7]

I wanted to post the next two articles to complete a triplet with the article above, but felt they should be posted here first to get some reaction. I believe the three articles need to be read together. Thanks.

• Voice from Russia: The end of illusion.
• Marco Carnelos: Does the West really need to be great again? From the US to Europe, panic is setting in as we witness the rise of a new multipolar world.

RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 22:58, April 26, 2025 (EDT)

Notice how Virginia Giuffre conveniently dies before the Epstein files are released? Giuffre would have been a prime witness in any cases, civil or criminal, against persons identified in the files. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 21:51, April 27, 2025 (EDT)

• Kim Iverson: Epstein Victim DEAD at 41, Ruled Suicide. Suspicious?

Not good. [8] It means massive layoffs. Boeing is one of the few export products on the positive side of the trade balance ledger.

Alternatively, maybe the surplus airplanes can be sold to Iran at a reduced price. It was, after all, why the JPOAC Iran nuke deal was negotiated, cause NATO allies UK & France were violating Iran sanctions with a contract for Airbus. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:17, April 28, 2025 (EDT)

Trump effect? [9] We need a strategy to deal with it. My suggestion: end warmongering. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 12:18, April 29, 2025 (EDT)

China is normally the largest export market for U.S. agricultural products. "It's a full-blown crisis already".

First, after 78 years of Finnish neutrality, Finland joins NATO. Then, when Russia reacts to the NATO threat on its border with Finland, Western propaganda alarmists call it "the Russian threat". [10] RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 00:35, May 1, 2025 (EDT)

"ALERT: All purchases of Iranian Oil, or Petrochemical products, must stop, NOW!

Any Country or person who buys ANY AMOUNT of OIL or PETROCHEMICALS from Iran will be subject to, immediately, Secondary Sanctions.

They will not be allowed to do business with the United States of America in any way, shape, or form."

It's known that Communist China is the biggest buyer of Iranian oil since the pandemic days. [11]

• when you step back and look at the countries who import Iranian oil or petrochemicals, you will realize that Trump is going after three countries… India, China and Turkey, with China as the primary target.

[12] Does anyone still think the rest of the world wants, or is looking to the US, to be the foremost power for the foreseeable future? At least until it publicly repents and gets baptized.

[13] This really is hardly "news" or a "headline". It is entirely predictable.

What you are seeing is a "blackmarket" in the making. "Blackmarket" is generally defined as an illegal operation intended to avoid taxes. However, here you see the blackmarket as the creation of collusion between governments. Now many conservative's confuse "government" with "legality". I can see we have an uphill road ahead. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:46, May 3, 2025 (EDT)

Liz Peek, chair of the board of Fashion industry values Institute of Technology, unfortunately uses the ambiguous and poor choice of words "battle" with China at a time when warmongers & propagandists are trying to drive America into military conflict with China.

Question: In which "godless" country is sodomite marriage a constitutionally protected human right, China or America? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 02:44, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

The Politico headline article, "Romanian election exit polls: Hard-right Trump fan George Simion wins first round", has since been deleted. Looks like the globalist propaganda matrix is scrounging around for a new or better narrative (something to align with "Russians don't have flush toilets, etc.") RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:16, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

The problem isn't only in the headline, "Trump fan", which can easily be retitled. It is somewhere in the text. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:48, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

Jack Hunter at The American Conservative contends that Signalgate was no accident, that Michael Waltz and Jeffrey Goldberg have indeed been in cahoots, given both their prior joint appearances and their shared interest in promoting neoconservative ideology. He also contends that "a true ‘America First’ foreign policy and neoconservatism are incompatible," and that it is time that President Trump stop deluding himself into believing otherwise. In Hunter's opinion, Trump should've done what Hunter suggests Trump do now, a long time ago. But alas, Trump is a forgiving man. He has given the neocons more than enough chances to work with him so they could together develop a policy which could make both sides happy. However, the neocons have blown every chance Trump has given them, and Signalgate should be the final straw.

In his article, Hunter calls for Trump to do a "neocon purge." And although Hunter ultimately stops short of outright stating a detailed strategy, from my perspective he gives a good idea of what Trump's base should demand that Trump do on their behalf. This implied strategy consists of four tasks:

• 1. Revoking his nomination of Waltz as UN Ambassador, and instead booting him out of the administration altogether.

• 2. Firing Marco Rubio.

• 3. Revoking his endorsement of Lindsey Graham's re-election campaign, and instead endorsing one of his primary challengers.

• 4. Recruiting someone to try to primary out Tom Cotton.

Who's with Hunter on this?

Link to article here.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:38, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

According to Larry Johnson, Waltz was canned cause he was negotiating with Bibi for war with Iran "behind Trump's back".

The fact Waltz was announced as canned 3 hours before "oh, no no, he was promoted", IMO was not an accident. Looks more like the classic Trump weave, rather than sloppy messaging from the White House Communications Office. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:54, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

As to Jack Hunter, it may be too ambitious, too early. DOGE, Kash Patel, and Pam Bondi have a lot of work to do first. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 21:01, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi6-ELAgvI8 the MSM took out a few words without context [preceding it] to present Trump as if he is not adhering to the constitution.Dianne3000 (talk) 21:46, May 5, 2025 (EDT)

[14] RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:15, May 6, 2025 (EDT)

The Cold War began almost as immediately as surrender documents were signed by Nazi Germany. The UK violated the agreement made by the Allies at the Teheran Conference not to accept a separate peace. While the Red Army battled German forces in the streets of Berlin, UK forces accepted a formal signed surrender document from Hitler's designated successor Adm Doenitz in north Germany on May 8. The same night just before midnight, commander of German forces Gen Jodl surrendered to Soviet forces in the capital of Germany, Berlin. The news was reported to Moscow, which is 3 hours earlier, after 2 AM. So the Soviet's proclaimed May 9 Victory Day.

This inability of "the Allies" to keep agreements and even agree on when World War II ended marked the beginning of the Cold War. Now President Trump by official proclamation declares May 8 "Victory Day". This is highly insulting to Russian families who made the sacrifice and lost family in the war. Trump knows this, or should know this. Unfortunately, it unofficially marks the beginning of Cold War II, and is readily an admission of President Trump's failure to keep his promise to end the NATO proxy war in 24 hours or 100 days. Biden's War, begun by Obama in 2014, is now Trump's war. Bannon was right.

Bottomline: Trump didn't have to make a formal proclamation, but he did anyway. Going forward, the Russians can only interpret this as bad faith out of spite. Between FDR saying "no separate peace" or Papa Bush promising "not one inch east", the Russians have no confidence in Western, UK, or American words, written or oral promises. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:23, May 7, 2025 (EDT)

Mearsheimer: [15]

RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:24, May 8, 2025 (EDT)

Putin:

Judge Napolitani interview with Mearsheimer:

[REACTION Trump "Russia wants all of Ukraine" : Col Douglas Macgregor

Dmitry Polyanskiy: Victory Day & politics of historical revisionism. [16]

The Image of Edessa, the "All-Merciful Savior" flag with which Czar Ivan IV's troops went to Kazan in 1552.

Jake Sullivan [1] to Hillary Clinton: "Al Qaeda is on our side" in support of US-Saudi-backed Wahhabism in Syria.

"Together we will defeat the army of the Antichrist", spoken by a Muslim commander.

Look for the Image of Edessa on prominent display at the Victory Day parade. Evidently Putin doesn't fear the image of Christ on the flag carried by troops of Imperial Russia into battle against Muslims 400 years ago (as the communists did in Soviet times) offending Muslim troops. In the 1990s, the CIA attempted to splinter the Russian Federation in the two Chechen wars using jihadi proxy forces. But now Western machinations have only drawn Christians and Muslims in Central Asia closer together.

The Chechens remain ardent foes of US/Saudi-backed Wahhabism (ref Dore Gold, Hatred's Kingdom: How Saudi Arabia Supports the New Global Terrorism, 2003. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 23:47, May 7, 2025 (EDT)

See Terrorists R' Us:

I've had a love-hate relationship with President Trump ever since he came down that escalator. I initially refused to take him seriously, then I tolerated him, then I hated him because of his attacks on Ted Cruz. In hindsight I'll admit he was right about Lyin' Ted. Shortly before the election I came around and voted for him. And I was initially pleasantly surprised. But then he began hiring neocons like John Bolton and Mike Pompeo, and allowing them to hijack his foreign policy. He also put a knife in the economy by promoting and signing the CARES Act, which is a major reason inflation has been such a problem in the post-COVID era. So in 2020, I voted third party. However, I was always open to give Trump another chance in case he decided to run again and demonstrated that he learned from his first term mistakes. On Election Day 2024, I was confident he had learned from those mistakes, so I voted for him once again. Six months later, it's becoming more and more apparent that I was wrong. He hasn't learned from those mistakes. And no event makes that more evident than his decision to normalize relations with the al-Qaeda regime in Syria.

This begs the question. Was our support for Trump all in vain? Most of us here understand what an America First administration should look like. And this ain't it. Instead of going after the countries which serve the Deep State, Trump is befriending them and even backing them against countries which resist the Deep State. And he and his surrogates expect, no, demand that we accept that. But if we're to be ideologically honest, we can't. And I won't.--Geopolitician (talk) 18:58, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

There is some valid criticism there. On the vital life-and-death issue of peace and war, it's almost a debate between lying vs incompetence. At least that's how it shapes up as a 2026 Midterm election issue. OTOH, by-passing war with Iran is an open question yet. There still a lot of balls up in the air in this juggling act. Same with the vital inflation and employment numbers as a result of tariffs - can they be made to look good before November 2026?

It's an inherent flaw in our system. Democracy means people with an IQ under 110 vote. The MSM shapes the narrative geared toward them. And our system with set elections every two years - unlike a parliamentary system - means we live in perpetual crisis. People are impatient and want fast results, kinda like waiting for the next pee-break during a commercial. So you have to master the art of debating with idiots with an IQ below 110 (for example: the premise that the notorious Nazi kill list in Ukraine was not created and maintained by a Nazi, etc.) RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:49, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

This is concerning: Trump Administration Restores US National Endowment for Democracy’s Funding. Berletic calls it "continuity of agenda". While some of the more abusive programs have been cut from the $41 billion USAID budget, other of these regime change and color revolution programs are just being better hidden. We've seen this game before after the Church Committee, which is how the NED came into existence and when USAID was hijacked from the Peace Corps.

Rumor has it, despite his indespensible service in combatting Russiagate, Ratcliffe is said to be a closet neocon, which doesn't necessarily make him a full blooded globalist. There are gradations. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 01:24, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

globalists are essentially business people and oligarchs.

neocons are political people who need globalists' money and resources to carry out their designs.

RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 01:29, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Following up in response to Trump's meeting with al-Jolani. Here's what I think is going on.

The Middle East is currently divided into three camps. One led by Iran, one led by Saudi Arabia, and one led by Turkey. Iran and Saudi Arabia are bitter enemies, while Turkey is a "swing power" which goes back and forth between aligning with Iran against Saudi Arabia, aligning with Saudi Arabia against Iran, and opposing both countries.

Between 2011 and 2016, Turkey was firmly aligned with Saudi Arabia against Iran. Their alliance began to deteriorate after the successful coup in Egypt, and collapsed completely following the attempted coup in Turkey itself. While they both continued to support the Syrian jihadis against Assad, they no longer trusted each other and from that point forward treated each other as enemies rather than allies. Meanwhile, Turkey attempted rapprochement with Iran, with limited success.

Then last December, the Syrian jihadists finally overthrew Assad. The Turkish-Iranian rapprochement collapsed, leaving Turkey with just two allies in the region: Qatar and the new Syrian regime. Meanwhile, post-Assad Syria became a potential flashpoint between Saudi Arabia and Turkey as the new regime's loyalties are tested. At this time, it appears to be more aligned with Turkey than with Saudi Arabia.

Enter Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin. Both seek to normalize relations with post-Assad Syria, defying the long-standing conventional wisdom concerning their foreign policy. However, it appears that they are seeking normalization for completely different reasons. Trump's main concern is containing Iran, he is thus is willing to overlook past transgressions so he could expand the Abraham Accords to include radical Sunni regimes like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Qatar, and post-Assad Syria. On the other hand, Putin's main concern is eliminating American influence in the region. The primary target of this policy is Saudi Arabia, he is thus willing to overlook past transgressions so he could forge an anti-Saudi alliance led by Turkey and Iran.

To summarize, Turkey, Qatar, and post-Assad Syria a swing bloc. Trump and Putin are competing for their favor, in the process abandoning their long-standing policies against Sunni extremism. I personally find it really embarrassing to watch, and I say that in an just world their efforts would blow up in their faces. But this world is not nor has it ever been just. Nor will it ever be just until Christ returns.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:02, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

At this point I fully expect World War III to break out within the next decade. Of course the region where it starts will determine whether it's remembered like World War I or like World War II. If it starts in the Middle East because of Trump and Putin's about faces on al-Qaeda, then like World War I before it, it will be remembered as one of the stupidest wars in history.--Geopolitician (talk) 23:07, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

The big worry at the moment is, Iran said it will hold the US accountable and retaliate against US Middle East bases and possibly even DC if Israel attacks its nuclear sites. That gives Netanyahu every incentive to bomb Iran to drag the US into war. If DC were struck by Iran in retaliation, the reaction among the American people would be a replay of 9/11. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 22:49, May 25, 2025 (EDT)

What about China? China brokered a peace deal between Saudi Arabia & Iran, and is a major player in the Middle East now, purchasing Iranian oil. Can't really impose secondary sanctions on China for its economic support of Iran as Trump just backed-off the tariff war. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 23:32, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

If China thinks it can secure a long-term peace between Saudi Arabia & Iran, it's in for disappointment. Their religious differences are a ticking time bomb, which can never be truly defused.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:31, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

"Divide and rule" is a concept among leaders, not the general populace. The main point is, China is now an interested party and one of the main players in the Middle East - a big change in China's 3000 year history for the first time, as China now has a foreign policy outside its traditional borders. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:17, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Yes, the CARES Act certainly was inflationary, but piling on $350 billion in aid to the corrupt Zelensky regime was throwing gasoline on a fire. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:26, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

I agree.--Geopolitician (talk) 13:31, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Following up again in response to Marco Rubio's appearance before the Senate today. He now says it's a priority for the US to prop up the al-Qaeda regime in Syria, lest the country descend into another civil war, which could be as little as just weeks away. At this point, I've just about had it. I regret voting for Trump. And if we end up supporting this new regime in any future conflict, I'll be calling for his impeachment. Just as I supported impeaching Obama and Biden before him on the same grounds.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

I also have this to say about the two countries which are pushing Trump the hardest to do this: Saudi Arabia and Israel. On the former, I've never believed that MBS is a true reformer. I've always believed that he is a stealth fanatic masquerading as a reformer so he could make his country more effective at waging jihad. So I'm not at all surprised that he's pushing Trump to do this. The sooner Iran takes out the Saudi regime, the better. As for Israel, Netanyahu has completely destroyed any goodwill I've ever had for Israel, possibly forever. One thing's for certain, as long as he, Likud, or any similar political movements are in charge, I will never support Israel again. In fact, I'm tempted to start supporting the Palestinians (but not Hamas, as they also support the Syrian regime). I never thought I'd ever reach this point, but here I am.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:53, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

I have somewhat of a different perspective (which I'm not ready to fully articulate).

I don't see the NATO provocations in Ukraine from 2014 to February 2022 as entirely unrelated to Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. I can bring forward a thesis with historical examples at some point later. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:17, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

For example, in Khruschev's memoirs (1970) he describes the events of 1956 - the Suez Crisis & Hungarian Revolution - as beginning with Western & Soviet diplomats who said to each other, "Look, we have a problem and you have a problem. Maybe together we can resolve both our problems".

German Journalist Patrik Baab Lays Bare the Harsh Realities of Ukraine (time prompted).

IOWs, while both power blocs are distracted with troubles within their own alliance, neither is able to mount a united front against the other. And this is done by agreement between the two power blocs. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:29, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Another example: The India-Pakistan dispute appears to be an attempt to divide BRICS and draw Russia & India away from China. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:27, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

One more thing. To hell with the Abraham Accords. Its premise is a lie, it's not about peace but rather (more) war. Specifically, war against Iran and its allies, who at this point have the moral high ground and have had the moral high ground for years. But then again, just about any of our so-called "enemies" (who are actually enemies of the Deep State rather than the American people) at this point have the moral high ground and have had the moral high ground for years.--Geopolitician (talk) 15:01, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

I've only been paying attention to the Abraham Accords vis-a-vis Azerbaijan/Armenia, not sure about the rest. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 08:32, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Donald Trump's Commerce Secretary Lutnick: 'We're very, very focused on America's golden age coming'. The Trump Effect: $8 Trillion in US investments and climbing], White House. "We will stand bravely. Dream boldly. And nothing will stand in our way because we are Americans. The future is ours and our golden age has just begun." - Donald Trump, 2025.

It's rehashed talking points about future events. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 21:14, May 13, 2025 (EDT)

Then again, the author/editor has a track record of not being able to distinguish news from propaganda.

This is what life in North Korea is like. People are hungry for news and information and all they get is rehashed slogans from the Dear Leader.

• Tomorrow belongs to me

Once again, User:Conservative expounds the most vulgar stereotype's about conservativism and conservatives.

Recycled Darwinism

All this sounds like recycled Natural selection and survival of the fittest:

• America will be the leading power for the foreseeable future;
• Russia is a declining power;
• etc. etc. etc.

Civilizations don't last forever. A cursory reading of the Bible will tell you that.

Wake up and smell the coffee. Russia's roads, sewers and oil/gas infrastructure are crumbling. And Russia's fertility rate is the lowest it's been in 200 years and its expected to have a severe demographic crisis in the 2040s. And Russia has one of the lowest church attendance rates in the world. President Trump said Russia's economy is a "disaster". Due to the war in Ukraine, a gigantic number of Russia's most educated/wealthy people left Russia and this brain drain is negatively affecting Russia's economy. Decline, decline, decline. That's all a reasonable person sees in Russia's future, barring some supernatural miracle such as a religious revival in Russia. Conservative (talk) 16:16, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Wake up and smell the coffee. America does not have a "superior" culture or civilization. Gay rights and America's crumbling infrastructure should tell you that.

As Toynbee said, Militarism, more specifically the "suicidalness of militarism" is one of the final phases of a disintegrating society. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:25, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by User:Conservative, June 8, 2008.

The USA has the 11th best roads in the world. Russian roads were recently ranked 120th in the world (See: Russia a land of potholes, bad roads and deteriorating car quality).

Also, there are gay bars/clubs in Moscow, St. Petersburg some other Russian cities. Furthermore, Russia decriminalized homosexuality as far as it not being illegal to be a homosexual in Russia. President Donald Trump went to Saudi Arabia where they have no gay bars/clubs and they have not decriminalized being a homosexual! And the Saudis are investing in the USA - not Russia where many people are drunkards. And last time I checked in my Bible, both homosexuals and drunkards go to Hell! Conservative (talk) 16:38, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

You made the mistakes of falling in love with gay bath houses.

Stop wasting both our time with spam & trolling. After you PIDOOMA'd "Russian neoconservativism", I finally had enough. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:31, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

You are the king of spam! Your spamming of your oddball obsession with April 2022 is proof of that! Get over the fact that I forecasted that Russia/China would have very bad economies and horrible demographic crises. I was right about this matter and you were wrong. Your outsize and very fragile ego cannot bear being wrong. Get over your being very wrong and move on! People are wrong about things every day. Conservative (talk) 16:43, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Russia is involved in 4 wars now and its GNP to spending ratio is far higher than what the USA has. Russia is currently more imperialist than America. Deny these facts and lose all credibility! Conservative (talk) 16:49, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Your user space subpage evidently refutes your previous position taken in April 2022. Now all you do 24/7 is spam Darwinism and survival of the fittest into Conservapedia with your racist demographic theories. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:47, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

I am going to bow out of this conversation. Now that I have come to the conclusion that Russia is no longer a major power, I don't see much point in interacting with you about Russia anymore given Russia's great current weakness.

Also, although I have archive versions of some of my posts at the Decline of Russia blog, I deleted that blog due to the fact that Russia was declining so fast that to document it would be piling on. After all, when you see a very sickly dog, you don't kick it! Conservative (talk) 16:59, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Okay, Mr. Darwin, Jr. Thank you. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:06, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Ken: What were you doing on April 9, 2022?

Rob: I was paying attention to global affairs. What were you doing?

Ken: I was researching gay bath houses in towns I planned on visiting to make sure they had flush toilets.

• HHS Secretary Kennedy says FBI investigating Fort Detrick incident that led to bio-lab shutdown.

an incident involving two contractors ...was a fight between the contractors, in which one slashed a hole in a containment suit of the other, potentially exposing them to a pathogen.

Deputy Ukrainian Interior Minister and Advisor to President Zelensky Anton Gerashchenko is the founder and curator of the Ukrainian nazi kill list. Being that private handgun ownership is illegal in Ukraine, the defiant outlaw pose this government official strikes with his finger on the trigger is particularly intimidating to citizens.

I finally had the opportunity to read this "ButterGate" article which was spammed into at least 17 Conservapedia pages. The Newsweek report was built around a single instance of 2 shoplifters who were apprehended, armed with knives. The information was first posted to X by Anton Gerashchenko, the notorious neo-nazi webmaster who maintains Myrotvorets, better known as the Ukrainian kill list. Sen Rand Paul & DNI Tulsi Gabbard are included in the list.

Next time you hear Conservapedia is Nazi propaganda, don't laugh. A senior Admin made it so.

Conservapedia needs stronger anti-spamming enforcement. When an editor adds content, it should be in only one place - not 17 - and time given for other editors to vet the content. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:01, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Hamas' boss [as in having most influence over plus financing] Qatar plays all sides and showers gifts...not just bribing universities, pushing its al jihadzeera everywhere. Does anyone really believe they couldn't tell its Hamas linked thugs to release the Americans while they were still alive on Oct/7? [Back then when, seemingly, like the last American survivor Edan Alexander were tied in cages with bags over their heads beaten and starved?] It's a positive thing economic ties, but that should not blind perspective.

How does lifting sanctions before Syria's former jihadi , current its leader, prove himself, help us in the US?

Hopefully to God always.Telling (talk) 18:58, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Ex.23:8

"for a gift blindeth them that have sight, and perverteth the words of the righteous."Dianne3000 (talk) 19:43, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Speaking of Biblical text, Deuteronomy 16:19 "You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality, and you shall not take a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and subverts the cause of those who are in the right".Telling (talk) 16:36, May 15, 2025 (EDT)

Sundance has an interesting take: Qatar is to the CIA what Antifa is to the FBI. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 22:59, May 14, 2025 (EDT)

Sen. John Kennedy: "I trust Qatar like I trust a rest stop bathroom.".

Kennedy is absolutely right. BTW, Weaker Qatar = less war. So much for the fake: "anti neoconism" including huge weapons deals to Islamist: Saudis and Turks.Telling (talk) 16:36, May 15, 2025 (EDT)

Susan Rice is Very Upset That President Trump Doesn’t Review the Intelligence Community Presidential Daily Brief. "Susan Rice complains about President Trump having a relationship with the duplicitous “Qataris,” who she proclaims are terribly nefarious and dastardly, and no President should have a relationship with Qatar. Laughably, it was Susan Rice herself who constructed the “CIA Finding Memo” for President Obama to sign, which authorized sending Surface to Air missiles to Qatar, which would then be transferred by CIA Director Leon Panetta to Libya...." and more.

This why I have never voted Democrat since, oh, about the 3rd grade & the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. Democrats use foreign policy to manipulate hatreds and war for domestic policy purposes. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 01:18, May 25, 2025 (EDT)

China Breaks Silence on Hamas Massacre, Opens Door to Strategic Partnership with Israel | May 14, 2025 [17]. Or is it just empty political rhetoric in competing with Trump?Dianne3000 (talk) 13:01, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

Interesting!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 14:25, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

China is huge purchaser of Iranian oil, which, the theory would hold, money ends up in the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 17:03, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

Thanks Andy, RobS. The surprise is also after it allowed a constant streaming of Iranian propaganda. Weakening its Hezbollah is the major factor .Dianne3000 (talk) 17:40, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

Interesting news. Maybe it is serious, if not, then 'talk is cheap, 'especially in China..Telling (talk) 19:15, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

China buys 80% of Iranian oil exports. It would be impossible to further sanction Iran, or impose so-called "secondary sanctions" on China. This looks like Trump's call for "commerce not conflict". RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 19:21, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

BTW, the approach of economic partnership in the ME for peace, was Shimon Peres' idea. Part of the problem is, that (1) times changed and so are the (2) "chess" positions...Telling (talk) 23:19, May 17, 2025 (EDT)

Dutch Christians Stand Up to ..[18]Telling (talk) 19:23, May 16, 2025 (EDT)

Seems there is interest in summits between foreign leaders. When summits occur, it is to put the final seal on agreements already made at lower levels. For example, the Boeing jet gifted to the United States by whoever represents an earlier negotiation worked out with all legal ramifications, both domestically and internationally, in advance. It was not, as reported, like Trump attending a surprise birthday party. Every word spoken by leaders is scripted in advance so there is no confusion or misinterpretation.

Likewise the calls by Zelensky for an unscripted summit with Putin are made by a person and people who believe in top-down dictatorship. They believe in the supreme power of dictator - that a dictator (or two dictators who don't trust each other), can sit down at an unscripted summit, make agreements, and return home to dictate to flunkies how to proceed. This is nonsense, absurd nonsense.

Trump said he and Putin may have a summit in a few weeks. This means negotiators are scripting the agreements the leaders will ratify at a summit meeting. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 00:47, May 17, 2025 (EDT)

Example: Many cultural idioms need to be discussed and overcome. In 1972 Nixon didn't just hop on a plane and fly to Moscow & Beijing. Careful advance preparation was made. Nixon requested to visit the Great Wall of China, but was informed it was a symbol of oppression in China. It was built by the slave labor of tyrannical regimes, and many Chinese ancestors' bones are buried in the Wall. To Chinese, it is likened to Auschwitz, and Nixon's request and visit might be misunderstood. The Americans (of course) countered that if China & the United States were to normalize relations, the Great Wall could become a good source of revenue via tourism, and Nixon's visit could help promote it.

Summits are not spontaneous events like Zelensky believes or Trump implies.

Update: Peskov: No summit in the works. Peskov has a more reliable track record than Trump.

A more realistic account of the Trump-Putin phone call [19]

Despite both sides drumming up the call’s significance as a good step forward toward normalizing relations, it achieved nothing. The reason: Putin again repeated to Trump that “root causes” of the conflict must be addressed, and shortly after, Zelensky declared in a press conference that Ukraine will never demilitarize and never give up its territories; the impasse stands as before.

Trump did decline to order a new round of sanctions on Russia...

User:Conservative is still under the delusion that Trump's threats of sanctions, made for domestic consumption, carries some weight or has meaning. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 03:01, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Trump said he'd end the war in 24 hrs. He didn't.

Trump said he'd end the war in 100 days. He didn't.

Trump said the Houthis caved. They didn't.

I'll bet $100 User:Conservative continues to naively fall for whatever Trump says for domestic consumption again and again in foreign policy (cause User:Conservative has no discernment). In foreign affairs, like in military conflict, you hold your cards close to your chest, and don't publicize your strategy in the press. But User:Conservative hasn't figured that out yet.

When User:Conservative quotes Trump on these matters, he thinks he's being authoritive. But he's really only adding fuel to the liberal claim that Trump is a liar. User:Conservative has no discretion or discernment, and hasn't even figured out that much yet or the liberal claptrap he spams.

It is one thing to fall for a liberal lie or hoax occasionally, but to spam it (as much as 17 times) to "get back at your enemies" is a sin. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 03:25, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Why ia the Trump-Putin phone call for domestic consumption?

Negotiations between Russia and Ukraine will begin ‘immediately’:

Each will submit a separate, written proposal of what they deem necessary for a ceasefire. However, read the fine print: there is no deadline on submitting the proposals. That's why accusations of Putin stalling are BS, cause the stall tactic is a joint agreement between Trump & Putin. Anything Trump, Rubio, Zelensky or the global & US media propaganda apparatus says about Putin "stalling" is BS. Trump essentially told Putin to go ahead and take Odessa, but please be quick about it. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 08:00, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Putin REVEALS Dramatic Ukraine Plan; Issues Big Order To Russian Troops'. As I said, Trump gave Putin the go-ahead. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 01:35, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

Poli Sci 101

Let me explain a poli sci 101 concept for User:Conservative: Trump is not running for re-election. That means pay no attention to what he says, pay attention to what he does. In the field of foreign policy, his constant Truth Social flips are making it difficult to make binding formal diplomatic agreements. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 00:32, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

Prof Brovkin discusses domestic pressures on Presidents Putin, Trump, and Zelensky. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 18:36, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

This is so typical. See this Palestinian Arab (Alkhatib) complaining... quoted by Ella [20]Telling (talk) 12:21, May 19, 2025 (EDT)

Climate change hysteria peaked in 2021. See "Climate Change Urgency Has Declined. The Green Transition Hasn’t." PeterKa (talk) 08:45, May 18, 2025 (EDT)

Google Trends doesn't show a peak interest in the USA: Climate change - USA. It's going up and down within a certain range. The same for the world: Climate change - worldwide searches.

The use of the words climate change is going up in its usage in books: Frequency of the words "climate change" in books.

If Trump/GOP are successful in getting more school choice that would be a help to causing "climate change" hysteria to go down in the USA due to less indoctrination. "If successful, the Educational Choice for Children Act (ECCA) will create scholarships parents can use to send their students to private schools, available in all 50 states."[21] "Choice laws have now passed in every major Republican state. Congress and President Trump are now aiming at blue states that have resisted vouchers for decades."[22] Conservative (talk) 13:06, May 18, 2025 (EDT)

It's the return of Great Power politics and threat of nuclear war that ends this unipolar climate hoax brainwashing of youth to justify the continued existence of the CIA, etc.

Transcripts. Meet the Press – May 18, 2025 Fmr. Vice President Mike Pence, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Andrea Mitchell, Amna Nawaz, Stephen Hayes and Ashley Etienne.

May 18, 2025, 11:49 AM EDT. KRISTEN WELKER:

This Sunday: out of office. My exclusive interview with former Vice President Mike Pence.

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil.

KRISTEN WELKER:

His thoughts on the second Trump administration and the direction of the Republican Party.

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

There's no question in this administration that he is surrounded, it appears to me, with people that -- that nurtured his more protectionist instincts.

KRISTEN WELKER:

Plus: trade tensions. President Trump returns from his trip to the Middle East amid new concerns about his trade war, as the world’s largest retailer warns higher prices are on the way.

[...]

KRISTEN WELKER:

Good Sunday morning. President Trump returns to Washington after his trip to the Middle East, and he is touting what he says are new critical investments in the U.S. economy. It comes as his agenda back home is facing new challenges, and as he's planning for direct phone calls with the leaders of Russia and Ukraine on Monday. Against that backdrop, I sat down with his former Vice President Mike Pence on Friday at his home in Indiana.

[START TAPE]

KRISTEN WELKER:

Let me ask you about President Trump's first official overseas trip to the Middle East --

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

Yeah.

KRISTEN WELKER:

-- this week, where he met with the newly installed president of Syria. He dropped all of the sanctions against that country despite Israel's opposition. The trip included stops in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, but he did not stop in Israel. Sir, what message do you think President Trump's trip sent to Israel overall?

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

Well, first off, I think it was a very successful trip for the American economy. The president secured financial commitments in all three countries, including a historic contract for purchasing Boeing aircraft that'll really support American jobs. And I don't gainsay that. But, Kristen, I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil. And to have the president in Saudi Arabia questioning America's global war on terror, and describing it as nation-building and interventionist, I thought was a disservice to generations of Americans who wore the uniform and who took the fight to our enemy, you know, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And particularly giving that speech in Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers hailed from, not including Osama bin Laden, I thought was unfortunate.

KRISTEN WELKER:

Yeah.

KRISTEN WELKER:

-- this week, where he met with the newly installed president of Syria. He dropped all of the sanctions against that country despite Israel's opposition. The trip included stops in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE, but he did not stop in Israel. Sir, what message do you think President Trump's trip sent to Israel overall?

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

Well, first off, I think it was a very successful trip for the American economy. The president secured financial commitments in all three countries, including a historic contract for purchasing Boeing aircraft that'll really support American jobs. And I don't gainsay that. But, Kristen, I've never been a fan of American presidents criticizing America on foreign soil. And to have the president in Saudi Arabia questioning America's global war on terror, and describing it as nation-building and interventionist, I thought was a disservice to generations of Americans who wore the uniform and who took the fight to our enemy, you know, in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And particularly giving that speech in Saudi Arabia, where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers hailed from, not including Osama bin Laden, I thought was unfortunate.

KRISTEN WELKER:

Let me ask you about another aspect of President Trump's trip. He said that he was going to accept a $400 million luxury jet from Qatar to use as a temporary Air Force One. He said he'll eventually donate that to his presidential library. Do you think President Trump should accept a military aircraft from Qatar?

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

Well, I think first we've got to remember who Qatar is. We've got a military base there. I have members of our immediate family that have deployed to the region. But Qatar has a long history of playing both sides. They support Hamas. They supported Al Qaeda. Qatar has actually financed pro-Hamas protests on American campuses across the United States. So, the very idea that we would accept an Air Force One from Qatar I think is inconsistent with our security, with our intelligence needs. And my hope is the president reconsiders it. I think if Qatar wants to make a gift to the United States, they ought to take that $400 million and plow it into infrastructure on our military base.

KRISTEN WELKER:

So you're saying President Trump should turn down this plane?

FMR. VICE PRES. MIKE PENCE:

I think he should. I think -- look, others have observed or there are profound issues, the potential for intelligence gathering, the need to ensure the president of the United States is safe and secure as he travels around the world and of course also there are very real constitutional issues. The Constitution prohibits public officials from accepting a present, in the words of the Constitution, a present from a foreign state. Now they may have some basis through chain of title for avoiding that, but I think it's just a bad idea, and my hope is the president will think better of it. NBC.

Pence is a loser. Trump says the plane from Qater is being given to the U.S. Air Force - not him. Conservative (talk)

NBC 's Welker didn't bother to mention that...Telling (talk) 12:20, May 19, 2025 (EDT)

• Trump Sends ABC News Stern Warning Over their Qatar Jet Coverage! Trump slams ABC News for falsely claiming Qatar gifted him a jet, clarifying it’s for the U.S. military, not personal...

Does anybody actually still watch or get their information from Press the Meat? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 15:04, May 19, 2025 (EDT)

After CBS saga, they might get scared.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

How Welker survived Vivek with her crap -eating grin is anybody's guess. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 19:55, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Joe Biden is well-known for eating ice cream frequently.

Another article by the great writer Daniel Greenfield. [23]Telling (talk) 14:03, May 19, 2025 (EDT)

He was a big eater of vanilla ice cream. Not good! Conservative (talk) 11:32, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

True. Especially at his age.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:44, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Old people eat ice cream as a laxative, which explains much. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:59, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Those suffering from constipation. Dianne3000 (talk) 07:09, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

JFeed: Too late, lie already spread. UN walks back wild Gaza starvation claim: 14,000 children not at immediate risk. After the UN Humanitarian Chief Tom Fletcher claimed 14,000 Gazan children are set to starve to death in the next 48 hours without aid, the numbers were revealed to be without foundation.Dianne3000 (talk) 19:46, May 20, 2025 (EDT)

Thanks. Also JPost [24]...Telling (talk) 10:25, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Great rundown by of Inatapundit: "Instapundit » Blog Archive » NOAH ROTHMAN: Yet Another Gaza Famine That Wasn’t. Maybe you can spot the fallacy in the following..." [25]Dianne3000 (talk) 00:05, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

The liberal "activist" terrorist targeting of Jewish museum isn't unrelated to bloodlibel.Telling (talk) 19:11, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

Woman in viral Nazi salute video identified as Yasmeen Zohra Roubou, arrested by Beverly Hills PD [26] The person behind the camera is heard repeatedly saying, "I will be praying for you", while Roubou kept up with her rant with the Nazi salute and the words "Heil f**king Hitler" on repeat. She could also be heard saying, “I don't like Zionists.”Dianne3000 (talk) 07:06, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Nazism seems to be back in style these days (even here in Conservapedia). To call it out, they say, "Aww, that's just a 'Godwin'." RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 08:22, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Full video. She actually looks and acts more like a culturally appropriated blue eyed gringa than Muslim. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 09:36, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

She might be a child of a convert. BTW, in UK prisons there are forced conversions and some German girls are pushed to it too by Arab immigrants.Telling (talk) 10:23, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Her real name is probably something like Jane Anderson and she's probably a convert to the Nation of Islam.

In our European migrant crisis article, we have a story about an entire prison, including the Warden, converting to Islam (the warden probably had to to keep the peace within the walls). RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:35, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

• Schoolchildren are converting to Islam 'out of fear' in German schools: Study warns Christians feel they are outsiders and are desperate to try and fit in since huge migrant influx

• One in five Muslim prisoners is white as 'gangs drive conversions'Telling (talk) 11:09, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

It's a toss-up. Should German kids become woke transgender Russophobes or Muslims? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 16:22, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

This anti zionist transgender is classic [27]

The Swastika transgender pro-palestine...[28] Or this crowd [29]Dianne3000 (talk) 00:20, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

Stop the presses! Olga received gender affirming care in Russia? (it doesn't say what year). Imagine that. Russia has/had gender affirming care while millions go without flush toilets. Where's User:Conservative when you need him? RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 19:23, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

At the end, this Muslim Heil Hitler lady has been exposed as a sex worker with silicon breasts and all..Telling (talk) 23:45, May 24, 2025 (EDT)

[30] RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 15:38, May 21, 2025 (EDT)

Now imagine how crazier that show would be without the sane ones: Haines and Farrah-Griffin.Dianne3000 (talk) 00:09, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

Well, even extremist Whoopi knows, without some pushback, the show would be a boring 100% echohamber. It's about ratings.Telling (talk) 19:36, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

Give her credit for trying to salvage what's left of the leftover left, but it's just another form of denialism. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 19:50, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

• "left of the leftover left" - LOL.Dianne3000 (talk) 20:21, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

A blast from the past: Whoopi Goldberg: 'I Don't Care' If Biden Poops Pants, Jul 9, 2024. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 22:17, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

Yup.Telling (talk) 23:46, May 24, 2025 (EDT)

And Kamala apparently wasn't happy with Anderson Cooper. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 00:44, May 25, 2025 (EDT)

In "moderate" Syria..[31]Dianne3000 (talk) 20:20, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

Religion by extortion. Wonderful. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 20:46, May 22, 2025 (EDT)

because angry armed soldiers would return to Kyiv and finally depose his regime.

We are witnessing in real time a government in disintegration like Germany in 1918, 1945, Saigon in 1975 or Kabul in 2021. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 02:35, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

It's looking more and more like Zelensky's ultimate destination will be Florida rather than his residence in Tel Aviv, estate in Italy next to Arsen Avakov's estate, or apartments in Paris, London and Yalta (now in the RF). Although London can't be ruled out because of the support & personal security he receives from the Starmer regime. His personal bodyguard now is being handled by MI5, as the neo-Nazi Azov and Pravy Sektor elements have been relieved (he could pretend to lead a "government-in-exile" in London). But the US taxpayer is still paying for it all, and likely to continue "for the foreseeable future". RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 02:45, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

Lesson from history: the "Polish government-in-exile" formed in 1939 didn't go out of business until 1989; the reason: they held the title to Polish gold reserves held in London and the United States, and didn't turn them over to Warsaw until after the Polish Soviet Socialist Republic went out of business. Of course, nobody voted for the Polish government-in-exile either, which by 1989 had re-located to an apartment in Chicago.

The recent hit job in Spain on a disciple of Yanukovych, who was removed more than 10 years ago, is probably another sign the end is nearing, as Nazis are clearing up old business while they still have a global reach with US taxpayer help. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 02:52, May 23, 2025 (EDT)

No wonder the US & NATO are losing, and will lose in Ukraine. [32]

A war cannot be won on propaganda alone (as I noted 3 years ago). RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:25, May 26, 2025 (EDT)

Imagine that! Russia refuses to be a good sport, take an "L", and let the good guys win. But to hear them tell it, smashing Nazism and fascism is a family tradition. I suppose that was the danger of ever letting Germany into NATO.

Bottomline: Ukraine, not France, was the primary battlefield where World War II was fought. When Biden demanded a rematch, too many Americans & Westerners lined up with the Nazis. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 10:36, May 26, 2025 (EDT)

Note: None of the Russian sources claim Putin was onboard the helicopter that was involved in repelling the NATO/Ukraine aggression in Kursk. But who cares at this point? American Russophobes have shown themselves willing to believe any line of crap. RobS^{Zelensky Must Go!} 14:11, May 26, 2025 (EDT)