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==Theory of Relativity==
  
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Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)
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:Interesting hypothesis!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)
  
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==Russia news==
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==Your best protection==
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===Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan ===
 
  
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*[https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-russia-economy-inflation-business-ukraine-war-ruble-interest-rates-2023-9 Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan], Business Insider, 2023
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Once I quoted [[Chaucer]] to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others."  This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.
  
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*[https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/putin-says-russia-faces-big-economic-challenges-must-keep-inflation-check-2023-08-22/ Putin says Russia faces big economic challenges, must keep inflation in check], Reuters, August 2023
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That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.
  
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This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound".  If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped.  What is the fallacy in this line of thinking?  A Christian ought to know.  A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.
  
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*[[Essay: Russia's economy will enter a long-term decline]]
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And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.
  
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*[[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]]
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Another thing I wonder about:  Is the poison''ous'' deadly, or is only ''poison'' deadly?  The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly".  [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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==For the record==
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{{Cquote|''Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was.''|||Thomas Friedman, ''[[NYT]]'', April 3, 2022.<ref>[https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-04-04-thomas-friedman--what-is-happening-in-ukraine-is-the-real-world-war-i.ryONI1VO7q.html Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I], ''Teller Report'', 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com</ref>}}
  
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A lengthy war in Ukraine could be inflationary for Russia's economy. And it looks like the war in Ukraine could be lengthy (See: [[Essay: How long will the war in Ukraine last and what will its likely outcomes will be? A prediction on its outcomes]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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{{Cquote|''There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, [[World War III]] is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the [[Great War]] or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of [[MAD|mutual destruction]], but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the [[Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR) and the [[United States of America]] (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism.''|||Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.<ref>[https://menafn.com/1107349953/Leading-Russian-foreign-policy-expert-expresses-3rd-World-War-is-underway Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway], 11/1/2023. menafn.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the [[Thirty Years' War]] in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, [[philosophical]]ly speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it.''|||[[Alexei Arestovich]], January 14, 2024.<ref>[https://unherd.com/2024/01/oleksiy-arestovych-zelenskyys-challenger/ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger], ''Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas.''|||Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.<ref>Sergei Karaganov: ''[https://karaganov.ru/en/sergei-karaganov-nuclear-escalation-may-open-pandora-s-box-but-it-will-also-free-the-world-from-the-500-year-long-western-yoke/ Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke]'', Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.<br><small>Karaganov goes on: "But when the [[American]]s felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring [[military]] superiority, the foundation upon which [[the West]]'s dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world [[wealth]]. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s [[hypersonic]], [[Poseidon missile|Poseidon]] and other systems have ruined these hopes.
  
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:Problems with inflation could be a big problem for Russia because many of its rural citizens have tight budgets and more limited job prospects. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:37, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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They abandoned the [[INF|Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles]] ''[the treaty between the [[USSR]] and the [[USA]], signed by [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] and [[Ronald Reagan]] on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in [[Washington, D.C.|Washington]] ]''. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the [[ABM Treaty]], and so on.
  
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::You're only telling half the story from ''Business Insider:''
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Instead they have got a [[war]] that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our [[men]] for that…
  
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::[https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ammunition-manufacturing-ukraine-west-officials-2023-9 Business Insider:] "Western officials told the outlet that Russia is on track to manufacture two million artillery shells a year, which is twice as many as Western intelligence originally estimated it could make before the war...Russia, in fact, is now producing more ammunition than the US and Europe, with one senior Estonian defense ministry official telling The Times that Russia's current production is seven times that of the West."
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However we will ensure our [[security]] and [[sovereignty]], and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long [[Western Civilization| Western]] yoke.
  
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::If you are going to use ''Business Insider'' as a source, use its full context. Don't mix and match and cherry pick to come up with your preferred narrative. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:21, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from [[Europe]] again. Europe is the spawn of [[evil]] for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the [[life]] of one generation, the [[sin]], which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. [[United_Kingdom#United_Kingdom.27s_parliament_and_homosexuality|Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain]]. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."</small></ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The [[United States]] confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of [[World War II]]. The United States could in short order be drawn into a [[war]] across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose.''|||Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.<ref>[https://www.rand.org/nsrd/projects/NDS-commission.html Commission on the National Defense Strategy] Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Look at what's happening in [[geopolitics]]. We're on the verge of [[World War III]] right now. We got a [[dementia]] patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the [[mainstream media]] or the political class or the big [[corporation]]s out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an [[aristocracy]] that is trying to bleed the [[peasant]]s dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the [[US]] took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of [[debt]]. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the [[gold standard]] and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is [[financial]] and [[economic]] [[history]] they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries.''|||[[John Robino]], August 24, 2024.<ref>[https://rubino.substack.com/about John Rubino]. rubino.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. [[History]] will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the [[NWO|world order]] that would be comparable to the post-[[World War II]] period with the creation of the [[International Monetary Fund]], the [[World Bank]], the [[United Nations]], these other [[Western alliance|Western controlled institutions]] that have been the foundation for the existing international [[rules-based order]].''|||[[Larry Johnson]], August 30, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/RTNREy2qamY From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview], Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. [[YouTube]]</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Remember [[World_War_II#Fall_of_France.2C_Denmark.2C_and_Norway|1940]]. In three weeks, [[American]]s will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the [[president]] who will determine the [[nation]]’s conduct during [[World War III]], which has begun.|||[[George Will]], October 16, 2024.<ref>[https://archive.is/GccN0#selection-709.0-709.195 Opinion  World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.] By George F. Will, ''[[The Washington Post]]'', October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has never been closer.'''|||[[Donald Trump]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/gQvg46PXlWo?t=2383 Donald Trump, October 24, 2024].</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has already begun.''|||[[Jamie Dimon]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/world-war-three-has-already-begun-jp-morgan-ceo-says-1976854 World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says], By Suzanne Blake, ''[[Newsweek]]''. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the [[WW3|third world war]] has begun.''|||[[Valerii Zaluzhny]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/world-war-3-already-begun-34162302 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador], By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, ''The Mirror'', 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk</ref>}}
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:::Note: [[Zaluzhny]] is the prime candidate of the [[globalist]] [[deep state]] to become the next puppet president of [[Ukraine]] once [[Zelensky]] is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things [[World War III]] has already begun. [Ed.]
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{{Cquote|''[[US]] [[policy]]makers fail to learn the lessons of [[history]] and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in [[Eastern Europe]] into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in [[NATO]] threatens to transform the [[war in Ukraine]] into a [[Third World War]] that could cost the lives of ten times more.''|||[[David T. Pyne]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://dpyne.substack.com/p/biden-attempting-to-start-world-war Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office], David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The sudden collapse of [[Bashar al-Assad]]'s despotic regime in [[Syria]] this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: [[World War III]] has already begun.''|||Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.<ref>[https://www.forbes.com/sites/brycehoffman/2024/12/08/world-war-iii-has-already-begun--and-businesses-need-to-take-note/ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note], Bryce Hoffman, ''Forbes magazine'', December 8, 2024. forbes.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War 3]] is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. [[Russia]], [[China]], and their allies want to transform the [[Rules based order|current US-led world order]] that has been in place since the end of [[World War 2]] from [[unipolar]] to [[multipolar]]—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The [[US]] and its allies want the unipolar [[status quo]] to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite [[nuclear]] [[Armageddon]], where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—[[proxy war]]s, [[economic]] wars, [[financial]] wars, cyber wars, [[Biological warfare|biological war]]s, deniable [[sabotage]], and information wars. This is World War 3.  It's happening right now and rapidly escalating.''|||Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.<ref>[https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/2025-year-global-order-unravels 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels], by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people.''|||[[Major General Apti Alaudinov]], June 13, 2025.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-general-declares-ww3-started-35389852 Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops], Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq ''Mirror'', 13 Jun 2025.</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the [[Third World War]] right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous.''|||[[Steve Bannon]], June 18, 2025.<ref>[https://youtu.be/lXJTCMVOiEI?t=199 Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon], ''[[The Christian Science Monitor]]'', Jun 18, 2025. [[YouTube]].</ref>}}
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=== Will the Ruble be reduced to Rubble by Putin's Unjust War? Nears 1 Cent ===
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==Socialist [[Prime Minister]] of [[Slovakia]] and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left [[Robert Fico]] declares [[sovereignty]] from [[European values]] by signing [[Constitutional Amendment]] declaring there are only 2 [[gender]]s [https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/27/this-european-country-just-put-there-are-only-two-sexes-in-its-constitution/]==
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What is the [[EU]] & [[NATO]] gonna do with this [[Putin]] puppet? Invade [[Slovakia]]? Impose [[economic sanctions|sanctions]]? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the [[US]]/[[Biden regime]] idea of "[[democracy]]" with [[election fraud|rigged election]]s like in [[Moldova]], [[Romania]], [[France]], [[Germany]] and the [[UK]]?
  
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Graph in the Link: "📉 The Ruble continues to fall at just over .01c USD. That’s about the same price as a single piece of paper! #RussiaisCollapsing #RussiaisLosing" https://twitter.com/GlobalTensions/status/1700290830592864747 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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:Russia is not a member of the [[SWIFT]] network. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:23, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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Oh, I get it, finally. [[Election fraud]] and political assassinations are preferable to [[authoritarianism]], in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::Yeah, the west kicked them out of SWIFT over this war, so China happily stepped up to take our place. Now China has even more power. Great. So what next? Russia completely implodes, and becomes a vassal to China? --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">DavidB4</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 19:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:Of course, [[User:Conservative]] wants to [[censor]] and hide this from [[AI]]. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative/Please_leave_your_message_for_User:_Conservative_below._Thank_you._*******&curid=191397&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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:::So given the fact that Ruble cannot even be legally traded in the West, User:Conservative and Nishant somwhow think this means it's fallen in value on Western currency exchanges. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:05, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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===off-topic [[gay bathhouse]] rant===
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[[Image:2200-club-san-diego.jpg|center||thumb|850px|A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by [[User:Conservative]], June 8, 2008. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=2163315] ]]
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_b647d2f9-560d-4ff7-bf6d-0e0a67860059 Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
  
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:::The most powerful military on the planet today is not about to implode; however, the Western financial system is in danger of imploding, if not merely being cut down to size. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:08, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
  
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::::Let's make a simple, real simple, example: in the past, if Argentina wanted to buy Saudi oil, they had to buy US dollars first to make it happen. Now they don't. So that leaves a bunch of excess US dollars floating around the world out there somewhere, which eventually will return home and cause more inflation.
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_9ca0c6ae-cee4-431e-95d1-12758af43cd5 Is Slovakia a member of NATO]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
  
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::::What compounds the problem is, the Congress keeps printing more money with Ukraine aid, disaster relief, covid relief, etc., dollars that nobody outside the US wants or needs.
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::I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::::We did this to ourselves, by threatening countries that if they don't adopt gay marriage, or don't acquiesce to the US overthrowing neighboring regimes like Iraq, Libya, Ukraine, etc. we'll sanction them, too. The rest of the planet is just fed up with US arrogant behavior and militarism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:::Ahh, [[St. Petersburg]] & [[Moscow]] are not in Slovakia.
  
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RobSmith, do Russians buy foreign goods? If so, would a lower-value rubble hurt Russians? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:19, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:::But you obviously can't get [[gay bathhouses]] off your mind.
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:No, not really. Maybe a few rich people drive Porsches, but that's about it. The Russian economy is self-contained and self sufficient.
 
  
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:The US economy used to be self-contained and self-sufficient, but no longer; the US has an $875 billion annual [[trade deficit]] with China, meaning we export $875 billion a year in cash to our supposed enemies that could be used here to create jobs for homeless, etc.  And what does China do with the $875 billion in capital they import from American consumers every year? Build a military! SHOCK! HORROR! Now we have to increase defense spending and taxes because Walmart consumers are helping to build the Chinese military! [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:29, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:::I trust this clarifies matters.
  
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:The Russians are sitting pretty good. They're sitting on everything the rest of the world wants and needs, food, oil, gold, lumber, rare earths, fertilizers,  etc etc etc. And they don't owe anybody anything. As you say, they have a small population, so they all could get pretty rich. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:33, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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::: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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::The USA will have to decouple more and more from China due to the fact that their population is shrinking. You can't be the world's factory with worker shortages. Unless of course, robotics and AI are used. If this happens, then why would we need China? Just have the robots and AI in the USA to save shipping cost.  
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::::Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_bca3625a-701e-42af-a1f0-d5d551bf6802]).  
  
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::Secondly, the Chinese economy going down, which seems likely, will hurt Russia because Russia sells oil and gas to China. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:43, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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::::According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_5439274e-7ba2-4cdc-a6c4-fe7e782675da]  Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::According to [[Grok]], [[User:Conservative]]'s criticism of [[Vladimir Putin]] is because of Putin's '''[[suppress]]ion''' of [[LGBTQ+ rights]]:
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[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]
  
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::Good. Read the section I wrote at [[Coronavirus#Decoupling]], that now needs revising since Biden's election theft and the fascist War in Ukraine. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:47, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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Yes, [[User:Conservative]], a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated '''an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions'''...These fit into a broader pattern where '''roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ <big><big>suppression</big></big> under Vladimir Putin."'''
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:(ec) Let me say this one more time, and I'll try to be fairly clear: I think what you fail to realize is that we are in a transitional period of the global economy. It's kinda like, say, the period of 1945-1949 or 1945-1952, after WWII & the Great Depression. Meaning, all the old charts and graphs, or other data, you use to make comparisons from an earlier period, or projections into the future, are meaningless, and useless. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:47, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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[[File:Chechen leader addresses POWs.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Russian [[Chechen]] commander addresses Ukrainian [[POW]]s, 2022.]]
  
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:Now the global economy likewise had to go through a major transitional adjust period from about 1973-1976 after Nixon took the US off the [[gold standard]]. But that was a minor tweek of the [[Bretton Woods System]] compared to what is happening now with the rise of [[BRICS]].
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===off-topic [[homosexual obsession]]===
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:[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!],  Jan 4, 2007
  
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:We are not just going through a period of economic adjustment, but of a global political transition, as well. And the economics will follow the political changes, not the other way around. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:57, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html]
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::I realize that the global economy is in transition. And I don't think authoritarian/corrupt regimes are in a good position to take advantage of the changes - especially if they are facing big and intractable (or very hard to solve) problems.
 
  
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::It will interesting to see how things pan out by 2030. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:59, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
  
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:''NYT'' today: "Russia has managed to overcome sanctions and export controls imposed by [[the West]] to expand its [[missile]] production beyond prewar levels, according to U.S., European and Ukrainian officials, leaving Ukraine especially vulnerable to intensified attacks in the coming months”. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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:What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.  
  
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::I think the true test will come when China's economy starts having bigger problems and orders less oil from Russia and this seems likely. See: [[Essay: A Chinese economic collapse will be Russia's downfall]]
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:Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas!  (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::Also, "China’s slumping economy is likely curbing many of its foreign policy ambitions and prompting a rethink of its policy toward the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Still, a systematic transformation of Beijing’s perspective on Ukraine or other key foreign policy matters is unlikely. Xi shares Moscow’s anti-Western hostility; demonstrates a very shaky grasp of economics, limiting his understanding of the scope of China’s domestic problems; and presides over a system that does not make major self-corrections easily. Xi may dial back China’s pro-Russia neutrality, but only reluctantly and partially."[https://thediplomat.com/2023/08/will-a-china-led-global-recession-influence-beijings-russia-policy/]
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==[[Open letter to Andy Schlafly]]==
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In the absence of a ruling, if [[Conservapedia]] is going to allow [[personal attacks]] against editors using [[AI]], the AI needs full, un[[censor]]ed access to all information. [[User:Conservative]] is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his [[claptrap]] on his talk page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::And traditionally, sanctions are tightened over time. Maybe Germany will wise up and reignite their nuclear energy industry. But to be honest, Germany is acting so irrationally, who knows what they are going to do next.  
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==Donald Trump comments on [[User:Conservative]]'s [[trolling]]==
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[[File:Stupid people.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Message from Trump]]
  
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::But maybe Europe will shift to the populist right politically and not be so keen about sanctions against Russia.  
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==Open message to [[User:Conservative]] (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)==
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'''Some observations''' [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative%2FPlease_leave_your_message_for_User%3A_Conservative_below._Thank_you._**&diff=2169401&oldid=2169398]
  
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::But after all is said and done, I really don't see Russia doing well long term. I doubt they will solve their significant problems such as their demographic crisis. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:38, September 13, 2023 (EDT)
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There are two types of [[homosexual]]s. There are those with a [[homosexual obsession]], and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with [[sex]] than the national emergency, the [[Nazi]]s persecuted. The second group, like [[Scott Bessent]], [[Pete Buttigieg]], [[Peter Thiel]] or [[Ric Grenell]], constituted many high level Nazis throughout the [[Third Reich]]. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of [[homosexuality]] remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the [[United States]] in recent decades as the [[gay rights]] movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.
  
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:::From today: [https://youtu.be/JjzqwyNBEPo Manufacturing Consent: The New York Times & the Media’s Anti-China Frenzy]. Watch it. I have no clue why you wear so proudly on your sleeve, "I'm a propaganda stooge." I think it has something to do with your constant search for fortune tellers, sorcerers, and wizards that peep to give you some insight into the future. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:50, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
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You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the [[NATO war in Ukraine]], that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a [[nazisymp]] - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of [[authoritarian]] [[dictator]] or [[communist]], you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a [[Nazisymp]]. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the [[Ukrainian Nazi]] movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.
  
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===Update on Russia's supposed collapsing economy and Ukraine and Europe fueling the Russian war machine===
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Call it a learning curve for all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)
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"[https://www.tellerreport.com/business/2022-08-06-gazprom-supplies-gas-through-ukraine-in-the-amount-of-41-6-million-cubic-meters.SkfopS9s6q.html Gazprom supplies gas '''through Ukraine''' in a confirmed volume through the Sudzha station - 41.6 million cubic meters] per day. [https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-russia-gas/gazprom-to-send-41-6-mln-cubic-metres-of-gas-to-europe-via-ukraine-on-saturday-idUSS8N3A5053 Reuters]; [https://tass.com/economy/1672201?ysclid=lmdk2fmslh611647764 Tass].  
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:Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism_in_Russia][https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis][https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-8/][https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535]
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[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right|300px|thumb|[[American]] [[transgender]] [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]], spokesperson thing for the [[Ukrainian Territorial Defense]]. [https://rumble.com/v3hqmhg-american-transgender-sarah-ashton-cirillo-is-the-official-speaker-for-the-u.html] ]]
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:The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/25-straightest-countries-in-the-world-1242110/]
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::*'''[https://rumble.com/v536xno-ukraine-armed-forces-releases-lgbt-recruiting-ad.html Your American taxdollars at work].''' Additionally, [[User:Conservative]] is considering doing fundraising for the [[Ukrainian Nazis|Armed Forces of Ukraine]].
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:Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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User:Conservative: So let me understand this correctly: The [[corrupt]] Ukrainian regime, which only exists with US taxpayer support, is fueling Putin's evil war machine by getting paid to allow Russian gas to transit through pipelines on its territory for European customers who, under EU laws, are barred from purchasing it. Okay. Makes perfect sense now. 
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::Do you have a point? Are the [[Nazi]]s in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
  
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Sorry, but apparently facts get in the way of your regurgitated propaganda narratives. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:37, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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::I've covered this before, but you prefer to be [[stupid]] about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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Maybe we can get [[Merrick Garland]] to enforce [[Russia sanctions]] law. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:46, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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::In Russian, the [[politically incorrect]] term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike [[America]] and [[the West]], the [[media]] and [[military]] do not [[censor]] or suppress the term. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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UserConservative: So [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/09/07/biden-cancels-previously-issued-oanwr-oil-and-gas-leases-in-alaska/ why did Biden cancel the ANWR leases?] Cause he read your AP headline about how falling oil prices were hurting Putin's evil plans and figured the Russian war effort needed some help? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:10, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/517491?single "4 [[faggot]]s!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.]
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::Wait til the readers on [[Telegram]] hear - [[User:Conservative]] wants to fund the faggots. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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== Lauren Boebert, hypocritical disgrace ==
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::Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that [[User:Conservative]] drives his opponents and enemies traffic into [[Conservapedia]]. [[Telegram]] has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k [[User:Conservative]] has reduced [[CP]] to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's [[claptrap]], it could be arranged. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:White-house-memo-impeachment.jpg|right|600px|thumb|''VIA CNN:'' – “'''It’s time for the media to ramp up its scrutiny of House Republicans''' for opening an impeachment inquiry based on lies,” Ian Sams, a spokesperson for the White House Counsel’s Office, wrote in the letter, which was first obtained by CNN." [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/09/13/white-house-sends-media-instructions-on-how-to-report-about-congressional-impeachment-investigation/] ]]
 
  
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Well well, [https://nypost.com/2023/09/15/new-video-appears-to-show-lauren-boebert-vaping-at-show/ vaping] and [https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lauren-boebert-vaping-video_n_6503ce36e4b0b10a3ff955ef public disruption]. So much for conservative values, eh? She marries a [https://www.salon.com/2021/08/31/lauren-boeberts-husband-did-jail-time-for-lewd-exposure-in-a-bowling-alley-she-was-there/ pervert], raises a [https://www.businessinsider.com/lauren-boebert-grandmother-son-baby-2023-6?op=1 teenage fornicator], ends up [https://www.denverpost.com/2023/05/16/lauren-boebert-divorce/ filing for divorce], and now this.
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/Slavyangrad/145896 Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's [[faggot]]s and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025]
  
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Remind you of anything? The Second KKK in the 1920s supported immigration restriction, working-class populism, "100 percent Americanism," patriotic nationalism, and "Christian morality," and on the last point turned out to be moral hypocrites when most notably their national leader, D. C. Stephenson, was convicted for the rape, torture, and murder of Madge Oberholtzer. Of course, the Second Klan, like the First, was a Masonic organization, so their religious appearance was a deceptive ruse the entire time in an effort to corrupt American Protestants, which proved effective when millions joined the KKK.
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/503093 News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The [[faggot]]s from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025]
  
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Speaking of which... [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/10/donald-trump-2016-norman-vincent-peale-213220/ How Norman Vincent Peale Taught Donald Trump to Worship Himself] Peale was a 33-degree Freemason, but I'm sure this is a mere coincidence that means nothing, right? Right? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 11:49, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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:'''Update:''' "[https://t.me/llordofwar/502236 The [[faggot]]s, the hohols, are trying to take revenge for the attacks on energy and railway infrastructure by a drone attack on residential buildings in Belgorod." - October 4, 2025].
  
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:This Boebert news ain't going on the Main Page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:40, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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=== Second Rebuttal ===
  
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:Look at your sources:
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[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_2ba81f29-8d28-4fcb-a08c-679b9fea1d1f Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?]
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:*NY Post: "appears"
 
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:*HuffPo
 
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:46, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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'''Summary:'''  
  
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I am in agreement now, after having read the [https://resistthemainstream.com/lauren-boebert-releases-statement-after-video-emerges-of-her-groping-beetlejuice-date-in-heavy-petting-session-before-getting-kicked-out/ devastating, horrific details from a qualified source], and not from the for-profit, partisan, gossip-mongers you posted. Yes indeed, she deserves to be drawn and quartered, and the remnants burnt at the stake. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:31, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.
  
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:So the Boebert vid got [https://twitter.com/NoLieWithBTC/status/1702863988134990288?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw 6.5M views], but Pakistani Muslims destroying a Christian church gets [https://publish.twitter.com/?url=https://twitter.com/samwellsg/status/1691823660640694653 3k views]. Hmmm, what do you propose we do? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:40, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.
  
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== The racist origins of the Bush/globalist establishment Republicans in the South ==
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Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.
  
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As we know, the establishment wing of the GOP lost in Texas in the vote on the [[Paxton Impeachment]]. Many of them probably were allies of [[Joe Straus]], a former Speaker of the Texas House of Representatives and spokesperson for [[Moderate Republican]]s. And a fun fact: Straus's political beginnings began as a [https://blog.chron.com/texaspolitics/2009/02/speaker-meets-with-daughter-of-old-boss-sen-john-tower/ chauffeur] to [[John Tower]], a beneficiary of the so-called "[[Southern strategy]]" that elected Eisenhower-aligned, anti–civil rights Republicans to federal office, the first time some positions were held by Republicans since [[Reconstruction]]. While Tower was relatively moderate in his civil rights opposition and did vote against the Gore Amendment to the [[Civil Rights Act of 1964]] (which his liberal Democratic colleague [[Ralph Yarborough]] supported), most of his general civil rights record was negative enough to gain the Texas suburban white support.
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Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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Another key case is [https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/06/17/the-dragging-of-rick-wilson-continues-and-now-his-wife-is-hilariously-involved-n243750 Rick Wilson], one of the crybaby losers on the [[Lincoln Project]]. LP accused Youngkin in 2021 of employing a "Southern strategy," yet Wilson years ago [https://thepoliticalinsider.com/live-by-the-sword-die-by-it-the-delicious-downfall-of-rick-wilson/ posted a picture of a neo-Confederate "The South Will Rise Again" flag].
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:The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
  
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The historical roots are worth researching and reading up on: the early anti–civil rights white Republicans in the South in fact were not the old-school conservatives, but aligned with [[Dwight Eisenhower]], who in fact was ''not'' heavily concerned with civil rights but sought [[Dixiecrat]] support in swing states like Texas. The [[Old Right]] conservative faction of the Republican Party was supported by the biracial "black-and-tan" faction led by [[Perry W. Howard, II]], most notably in the [[United States presidential election, 1952|1952 presidential election]] when the GOP delegations from the Southern and border states supported the pro–civil rights contender [[Robert A. Taft]]—[[Mississippi]]'s, led by Howard, and [[Arkansas]]', led by [[Osro Cobb]], were the main examples. And then during the Eisenhower presidency, the black-and-tans were tossed aside to appeal to the "progressive" lily-whites, exemplified most in the likes of moderate Republican and segregationist [[Joel T. Broyhill]].
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:The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the [[Zelensky regime]] has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
  
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Now, some may wonder: aren't the modern-day populist faction of the Southern Republicans rooted in even more racism than the establishment types were? Yes and no—probably a minority element of the ultraconservative side were early participants in racist propaganda appeals, though the shift of the rural areas occurred decades later, and didn't solidify until the 2000s. Even in [[United States presidential election, 1980|1980]], Reagan lost the Deep South vote to [[Jimmy Carter]]! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 01:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
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:You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:True conservatives don't believe in the very liberal concept of hate crimes! Conservative (talk) 18 59, October 1 2025.PNG|center|850px|thumb|[[User:Conservative]] turned [[Conservapedia]] into a [[neo-Nazi]] [[fascist]] and [[antisemitic]] mouthpiece.]]
  
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==Desantis news==
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===DeSantis Campaign: Strong Second in Iowa "Good Enough" - Politico News===
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[[File:Viral article deals major blow to atheism.PNG|center|650px|thumb|"Viral video" in the main [[Conservapedia]] article [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia&curid=85796&diff=2172135&oldid=2164052 cited and linked] by [[User:Conservative]], removed for violating [[YouTube]]'s Terms of Service against [[violence]] and graphic content.]]
  
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"“He’s got to keep pushing the Florida story as it relates to Iowa — both states having become punching bags for the national media,” Kochel added. “I think he’s got to keep coming back to the state, keep making the pitch, ‘cause it’s a good stump speech.”
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[[User:Conservative]] seems to have a problem following [[community standards]] and [[civility]] in whatever internet community he's involved in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)
  
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One national GOP operative supporting DeSantis and granted anonymity to discuss campaign strategy, said, “I think we’re going to win Iowa; I think it’s going to be a great victory that’s really going to catapult the race. But a close second still is going to have that same effect.”
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==All this could have been avoided==
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Originally, for [[Conservapedia]]'s first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that [[Nazism]] & [[fascism]] were "rightwing" and or "[[conservative]]". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.
  
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So far Never Back Down officials say they have received commitments from more than 12,000 Iowans to caucus for DeSantis. The PAC has 21 staffers throughout the state, and has spent $5.5 million in TV ads. It plans to shell out nearly $30 million in ads, mailers and other forms of direct voter contact in Iowa and the early voting state of New Hampshire by Thanksgiving."
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Unfortunately, [[Conservapedia]] has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in [[good faith]] to avoid Nazi & fascist [[rhetoric]].
  
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/08/desantis-campaign-lowers-expectations-in-iowa-strong-second-good-enough-00114856 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:54, September 8, 2023 (EDT)
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I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their [[rhetoric]], who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)
  
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:Oh, so they admit they can't win. Of course, only two out of a dozen ever make out of Iowa. Their only hope is Trump stumbles over his own feet, gets locked up or assassinated. Where's the news in this story? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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==''[[NYT]]'': [https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010529017/can-the-right-confront-antisemitism-in-its-ranks.html Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?]==
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Nope. Not in [[Conservapedia]]. Only a [[liberal]] would force the issue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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*[[Victor Davis Hanson]]: ‘[[The West]] Is Slouching Toward Open Season on [[Jews]]. It’s Just Sick.’ [https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/12/19/victor-davis-hanson-the-west-is-slouching-toward-open-season-on-jews-its-just-sick/]
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*[https://thinkamericana.com/the-unlikely-duo-cruz-and-fetterman-team-up-against-antisemitism/ The Unlikely Duo: Cruz And Fetterman Team Up Against Antisemitism].
  
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Many people think DeSantis has a Good Chance in Iowa, he's visiting all 99 Counties, and many State Evangelical Leaders support him, it just isn't make or break for him. I think DeSantis wins Iowa comfortably. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:43, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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===[[User:Conservative]] uploads [[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] to [[Conservapedia]] in what he considers to be "a joke"===
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[[File:Slava Ukraine.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 Israel National News], August 16, 2018.]]
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[[File:Ukraine humor.png|center|650px|thumb|[https://youtu.be/a4E_TlguczA?t=1378 Slava Ukraini!] See also ''[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250746 Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?]'', Mordechai Sones, ''Israel National News''. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by [[Swedish]] [[scholar]] [[Per Anders Rudling]].]]
  
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:Here's what they are doing: they know he won't finish first, so they are prepping supporters for the eventuality when he doesn't so they can still call it a victory.  
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===Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:AFD_Vox_Day]===
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:A week ago it looked like Ramaswamy might become the 2nd place finisher. He's down now, but he can still get back up. The contest for No 2 finisher is between DeSantis and Ramaswamy, cause only 1 will survive Iowa.
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:::::You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ [[User:Conservative]] ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
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::::::It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on [[bigot]]ry when called out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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::::::But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns120=1&ns121=1&ns122=1&ns123=1&ns124=1&ns125=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&search=Theodore+Beale over 100 mainspace articles that he created], cited and linked to [[Vox Day]] ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Athiest&diff=1911931&oldid=1882775 like this one] or [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=prev&oldid=1912270 here] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=next&oldid=1912270 here]), deleted the internal link to [[Vox Day]] and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This [[antisemite]] is now cited by [[User:Conservative]] in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for [[Vox Day]] from talk pages.  
  
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:RFK was down two weeks ago when they played the antisemite card. He's back up already. Who knows what's going to happen? Maybe Larry Sinclair will come out of the closet between Iowa and New Hampshire and say he had sex and smoked crack with DeSantis or Ramaswamy. You can't bank on anything.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:02, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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::::::This is [[bad faith]] and [[sociopathic]] editing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:Vox Day2.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. September 21, 2016.]]
  
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=== DeSantis' revives Tea Party style policies ===
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:I have removed [[Theodore Beale]] from the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=2179882&oldid=2179881 Atheism and Mass Murder] page (all 3200+ bytes of the [[Nazi]] [[antisemitic]] [[spam]]). 1 down, 99+ to go. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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“This government is spending way too much money. They've locked in the COVID-era levels of spending, which are totally unsustainable,” DeSantis said Friday during a Fox News interview when asked about the looming budget battle between congressional Republicans and President Biden. “They should absolutely have a big fight over righting that ship.”
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:'''Correction:''' All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  
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DeSantis tried to expand the scope of that fight beyond just dollars and cents, arguing that conservatives can’t defeat the kind of big government policies they loathe without first starving the federal leviathan. “Part of the reason our bureaucracy is so out of control, and this deep state has developed like this,” he told Dana Perino, who will moderate the second GOP primary debate this month, “is because Congress has not been willing to use the power of the purse to discipline these agencies.”
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===Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims [[User:Conservative]]===
  
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This is comfortable ground for DeSantis.
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What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:
  
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He gave former House Speaker Paul Ryan fits over spending while in Congress, and he bucked Trump by voting against trillion-dollar budget deals. This could create a winning contrast between the governor, who has a record that fiscal conservatives like the Club for Growth adores, and the former president, who once described himself as “the king of debt” and who left behind a nearly $8 trillion tab for taxpayers." https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2023/09/08/drawing_contrast_with_trump_desantis_gives_it_the_ol_tea_party_try__149733.html
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If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.
  
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:Face it. DeSantis can't win on his own merit. He can only win as the default candidate after somebody comes up with a photo of Trump and Prince Albert with a 13-year-old girl, they lock Trump up, or the CIA takes him out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 01:07, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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That is not how:
  
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Lol. Laughable. I work in Investment Banking, and when recruiting we look at contrasting resumes between applicants. Here, look at the Presidential Resumes, T: "I raised the Debt by 8 Trillion Dollars", DeS: "I ran Record Budget Surpluses in Florida". I'm amazed some say they are Fiscal Conservatives but then support Trump over DeSantis after knowing that. This is devolving into a personality cult. Trump did some good things and some bad things, it's time to move on and turn the page on Donald Trump. President De Santis will pardon him, he can comfortably retire and enjoy his life, but Governor De Santis is the Best Man with the Best Conservative Record, not only Conservative Pro-Life and Conservative Anti-Woke and Anti-Covid-lockdowns etc record, but also clearly the Best Fiscal Record. Records speak for themselves. In this case, you're the interviewer, and you're hiring the next President. Choose carefully and wisely based on the resume. 02:10, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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* Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
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:*David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  
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:Look at the polling. The Undecideds aren't enough to close the gap between Trump and DeSantis. It's not even a contest. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:33, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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* Moral theology evaluates responsibility
  
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=== Reminder: DeSantis is estimated to have 45% Chances of winning the Presidential Nomination ===
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* Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.
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:*That's why we're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.
  
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"Lowry: So you’re like 50 percent on Trump’s chances now?
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Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:
  
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Rothman: I think he’s 45 percent. I’ve said I take the field, and I still take the field.
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* Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  
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Lowry: That’s bold. MBD?
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* Those critiques helped Christians
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I cited those critiques in good faith
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
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:*No evidence his racial or political views changed later. His [[antisemitic]] [[rhetoric]] was on full display long before you started [[spamming]] him into [[Conservapedia]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
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:*You are responsible for [[spamming]] [[Vox Day]] into hundreds of [[Conservapedia]] mainspace articles and talk pages, bringing ill-repute on all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The good fruit remains good fruit
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:*A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  
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Michael Brendan Dougherty: I’m totally with Noah. I think DeSantis is either 40 or 45 percent for the nomination."
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*I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
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:*No evidence criticism of your [[spamming]] [[antisemitic]] sources is [[bad faith]]. Your [[cover up]] of your defense and endorsement of [[Vox Day]], and refusal to clean it up, is evidence of guilt of wrongdoing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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*I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::If any of that is [[true]], you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to [[Vox Day]] or [[Theodore Beale]] to Essay space and label them with <nowiki>{{Essay By|Conservative}}</nowiki>, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.  
  
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https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/does-desantis-have-a-45-percent-chance-of-winning-the-republican-nomination/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:14, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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::P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". [[Jew]]s are welcomed at [[Conservapedia]], both [[religious]] and [[secular]].
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:The Democrats are determined to take Trump out, one way or another. By his own account, Trump couldn't stop the Deep State when he was president in 2020. Perhaps dropping out of the race will be part of his plea deal. If that doesn't work, well, Epstein's suicide was practice. I don't know what's going to happen to Trump, but I don't see a happy ending if he keeps running for president. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 07:57, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::When a political party starts acting [[psychopath]]ic (Tramples on the rights of others, domineering, arrogant, pathological lying, etc.) they have to be confronted via the rule of law and there needs to be a political realignment so they wind up in the political wilderness due to lack of votes.  
 
  
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::So the GOP has to grow a spine via the rule of law and the Democrats need to keep bleeding voters. If they bleed enough voters the Democrats will either change or be replaced by another political party.  
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::Andy should note, your smears of [[Slobodan Milošević]] being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:::Many great works were anonymous.  A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found. Thanks for the clarification re: [[Slobodan Milošević]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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::You can call this a "political intervention". It's like an intervention with an addict. Unfortunately, the Democrats are currently addicted to tyranny and immorality (late-term abortions, stirring up racial strife, incentivizing single motherhood, defunding the police, promoting sexual perversion, etc.). Maybe conservative Hispanic voters and conservative Christians will play a big role in this political intervention. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:18, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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::::The error in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind is like this:
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:::::[[Communist]] = [[atheist]] = non-[[Christian]] = [[Jew]].
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::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:::::That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::::::I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how [[User:Conservative]] tarred Milosevich as an [[atheist]]. He's done so with countless others.
  
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Agreed. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:20, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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::::::The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & [[bigot]]ry [[User:Conservative]] has [[spammed]] into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
  
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:The GOP is at war with itself - between its neocon fascist establishment leadership and its populist MAGA/Tea Party base. And the base is wising up. They're not giving a blank check to neo-fascist RINO warmongers anymore. Brand loyalty is dying, and hopefully by the primaries it'll be dead. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:39, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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::::::Ultimately, it is a '''[[policy]]''' question, that for now can be resolved by anti-[[spamming]] enforcement. [[User:Conservative]]'s habit of [[spamming]] the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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I never said [[Slobodan Milošević]] was an "atheist", etc. etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:'''[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=prev&oldid=1362923 Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia], 24 July 2017 and more. See: [https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. 21 September, 2016.''' Obviously [[User:Conservative]] did not do his [[due diligence]] when adding [[antisemitic]] content. Nor when he posted the [[liberal claptrap]] above claiming he was "acting in [[good faith]]" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "[[bad faith]]" actors.
  
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=== Reminder: Trump statistically tied with DeSantis in hypothetical Iowa head-to-head matchup with DeSantis ===
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:I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic '''content''' you've [[spammed]] into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-[[spamming]] '''[[policy]]''' with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
  
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"The Public Opinion Strategies poll also found DeSantis closing the gap against Trump in a head-to-head matchup, with DeSantis having 40% support to Trump's 43% post-debate.
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:We actually have such a '''[[policy]]'''. There is no enforcement. [[User:Conservative]] violates it with impunity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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Pre-debate, DeSantis largely trailed with 34% compared to Trump's 51%."
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:<big>'''Question:''' Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from [[Vox Day]] and hide his name?</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/iowa-poll-shows-desantis-closing-gap-trump-after-first-republican-debate [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 02:15, September 9, 2023 (EDT)
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:[[User:Conservative]] tarred the converted [[Christian]] [[Larry Sanger]], co-founder of [[Wikipedia]], as an atheist and proponent of [[bestiality]] into at least 342 mainspace articles. [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Ed_Poor#Larry_Sanger][https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly/Archives/archive74#Ferguson][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_bestiality&diff=prev&oldid=2058377#Wikipedia_on_bestiality] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
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:His [[spamming]] of blatantly [[false]] and [[malicious]] information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he [[spam]]s it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  
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===Trump Blasts DeSantis, Says He ‘Sided With the Communists in China’===
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==Should Conservapedia allow [[User:Conservative]] to create [[Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine]]?==
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Geez, I don't know how DeSantis can ever live this one down. [https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/trump-blasts-desantis-says-he-sided-communists-china/]
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AAFD_Essay%3ARussian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990335&oldid=1990334]
  
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See, when you make stupid, unfounded claims about your opponent or target, be wary of the boomerang effect. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:05, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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Or should [[Conservapedia]] have written, enforceable [[community standards]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:This is what is called censorship.PNG|right|650px|thumb|This is what is called "[[censorship]]".<br><br>Note: The point was made four days before the [[Oct 7]] attacks.]]
  
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=== Never Back Down tweets on DeSantis ===
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===Conservapedia's trolling problem===
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[[User:Conservative]] said,
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*"On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
  
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"While Trump sits behind glass box seats at the Iowa-Iowa State football game, Ron DeSantis and Kim Reynolds watch the game with @CarsonKing2 and fans" https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1700598774849282117
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:'''Update:''' '''John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in [[John Brennan]] probe for two months.''' ''Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel [[Joe diGenova]] was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe.'' By '''[[John Solomon]]''' and [[Jerry Dunleavy]]. ''[[Just the News]]''. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [https://justthenews.com/government/congress/satjohn-thunes-senate-has-delayed-weaponization-prosecutors-john-brennan-probe]
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:<big>"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a [[Congress]] in its own party’s control that referred [[John Brennan|Brennan]] in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."</big>
  
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"Is this why @realDonaldTrump left Iowa early? Again? [Image in the link of huge DeSantis 2024 banner at the game] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1700651544033526189
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[[User:Conservative]] disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and [[Conservapedia]] readers with his [[narcissistic]] [[trolling]]. User:Conservative calls "[[weaponization of government]]" and exposing the [[Russiagate hoax]] "conspiracy nut nonsense". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
  
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"Iowa ❤️‘s @RonDeSantis" [Video in the link] https://twitter.com/Kelly_Kundinger/status/1700674859099897893 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:43, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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===Attack on Conservative Treehouse===
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[[User:Conservative]] also wrote:
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*"The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "[[Sundance]]". And '''its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense.''' Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
  
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:Reports I read say something quite the opposite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:50, September 10, 2023 (EDT)
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'''Update:''' '''Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation.''' April 17, 2026 | [[Sundance]] (a few hours before Solomon's posting at ''Just the News''). [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/17/miami-prosecutor-moved-from-brennan-conspiracy-investigation/]
  
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=== ‘You Lost Me’: Iowa Republicans Tell MSNBC Trump Has ‘Too Much Baggage’ – DeSantis, Others Can Still Catch Him ===
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'''[[John Solomon]], [[Jerry Dunleavy]]''' (of the ''[[Washington Examiner]]''), '''[[Joe diGenova]]''' and his wife '''[[Victoria Toensing]]''' (of [[Uranium One]] fame), '''[[Sundance]], [[Sidney Powell]]''' (who defended [[Gen. Michael Flynn]]) and '''[[Sara Carter]]''' are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the [[Russiagate]] scandal. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>
  
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"MSNBC’s Allie Raffa was in Iowa on Saturday and spoke to GOP voters as the 2024 Republican presidential candidates converged on the state in hopes of wooing primary support.
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'''Update:''' [[Joe diGenova]] placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the [[crime]]s committed against [[President Trump]], from [[Russiagate]], his [[sham impeachment]]s, the [[rigged 2020 election]] and the illegal criminal charges and [[lawfare]] attacks waged against President Trump. [https://archive.is/x242O]
  
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Donald Trump has strong support in the state but it is not absolute, as was noticeable in his arrival at a college football game on Saturday. Raffa spoke to Republican voters supporting other primary candidates such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, and told host Yasmin Vossoughian on Saturday that those Iowans believe Trump can be caught in the primary race.
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{{quotebox-float|The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then [[Biden]]) that claimed, “[[national security]],” should not be disclosed to the defendant, [[Donald Trump]]. The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the [[executive branch]], are not questionable by the [[judicial branch]].
  
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“We spoke with quite a few Iowa Republican voters before they all started sort of flocking to the stadium here for this game,” said Raffa. “And sort of the gist we got from voters on the ground here, the majority of them had told us that they see potential in other GOP candidates besides Trump.” https://www.mediaite.com/tv/you-lost-me-iowa-republicans-tell-msnbc-trump-has-too-much-baggage-desantis-others-can-still-catch-him/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 06:55, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
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This precedent now applies to [[James Comey]]’s memos. If the [[DOJ]]/[[FBI]]/[[IC]] define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing [[security]] matters and [[Russia]], then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.
  
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Continued: "Raffa then showed clips from two of those interviews. The first, with a woman who voted for Trump twice but said that he lost her vote because he is unable to admit when he is wrong, and that his legal issues are a big problem for a potential president. She is instead going to caucus for DeSantis, who actually brings “tangible plans” to the table, she told Raffa.
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The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for [[leak]]ing classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against [[Donald Trump]].  Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.
  
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“I feel that he has too much baggage with his legal battles. And as our country is facing a lot of problems, we need to unify. And I feel like with him, there’s going to be a lot of fighting. He never even once said, you know, ‘yes, I did wrong. Yes, maybe I could have done this better.’ It was always, no, I never did anything wrong. I’m always right. And that to me was like, I’m sorry you lost me.” [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 07:36, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
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'''When I reminded the [[DC]] people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.'''}}
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''Source: The Conservative Treehouse: [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/30/report-another-doj-investigative-case-against-james-comey-happening-in-virgina-thats-three-states-now-and-this-one-has-big-irony/?lctg=66158495 Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony], April 30, 2026, Sundance.
  
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:MSNBC. Wow. Now that's news. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:02, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
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Sundance is an "insider".  
  
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[[User:Conservative]] knows nothing about the issues he has [[spammed]], [[troll]]ed, and disrupted with [[negative SEO]]. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to [[Conservapedia]], its users and editors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
  
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Gov De Santis:
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===Simplicius===
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*[The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
  
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"As President, I will demand from each agency that they provide a detailed justification for every remaining redaction, and decide, in the interests of transparency, whether the public interest outweighs any potential harm in disclosure before making declassification and public release decisions. I will end the federal government's decades-long abuse of the classification system and will strive to be the most transparent administration in U.S. history.
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:Because of Simplicius fair criticism of [[Trump]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying [[Conservapedia]]'s reader base with his advocacy of [[Biden]]/[[Clinton]] [[foreign policy]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] is hell bent on dragging down the [[Republican party]], the [[conservative movement]], and what remains of the original [[MAGA]] movement with his 37%.
  
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“Finally, I join in support of the Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act introduced in Congress to close loopholes that prevent victims' families from holding foreign sponsors of terrorism accountable. I supported the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act in Congress, which was a crucial step forward. The Ensuring Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act will help realize its full intent so the families can get justice and answers.
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*[[News Forensics]]: [https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/simplicus-made-simple Simplicius Made Simple].
  
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“We have shown in Florida that we can rise to the occasion to provide those who lost their lives on 9/11 the respect they deserve. I was proud to sign a measure into law in Florida earlier this year that designates September 11 as “9/11 Heroes’ Day” and requires history education regarding the significance of that day, including remembering the sacrifice of military personnel, government employees, civilians, and emergency responders who were killed, wounded, or suffered sickness due to the terrorist attacks.
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===The Big Question===
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How long will Mr. [[Andy Schlafly]] continue to allow himself to be led down the [[nihilistic]] path [[User:Conservative]] has led him which has destroyed [[collaboration]] and [[Conservapedia]]'s user & reader base? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
  
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“The pain of 9/11 endures for these families and all of us who remember that day, and its history must be taught for generations to come. Our work is not done until we have fully brought to light all the details surrounding the attacks, and those responsible are held accountable. I will not rest until both are fully achieved. We Must Never Forget.”
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It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that [[User:Conservative]] has followed through with his threat to target articles created by [[User:RobSmith]] posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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[[File:Coffin.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9wXQpzESo&t=3s Traffic to RobSmith's articles].  
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Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate.  
  
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https://rondesantis.com/press-releases/ron-desantis-statement-on-meeting-with-9-11-families/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:54, September 11, 2023 (EDT)
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::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheist doctor.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.
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You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.
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If you still have any high hopes for your articles getting a lot of web traffic, I would stop having those high hopes.]]
  
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=== DeSantis Fabricated GOP Debate Story About Meeting an “Angel Mom”, Falsely Claims Gold Star Mother’s Son Died From Taking Drugs Laced With Fentanyl===
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<center>[[User:Conservative]]: Your [[Satanic]] symbols of [[death]] are convincing.</center><br>
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[https://loomered.com/2023/09/07/exclusive-ron-desantis-fabricated-debate-story-about-meeting-an-angel-mom-falsely-claims-gold-star-mothers-son-died-from-taking-drugs-laced-with-fentanyl/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:48, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
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<center>{{Cquote|<big>As he thinketh in his heart, so is he.</big>|||Proverbs 23:7}}</center>
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::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. [[User:RobSmith|nobs]] 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"
  
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Laura Loomer. Bwahahahaha. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 20:14, September 12, 2023 (EDT)
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::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes.
  
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=== Boom! An Amazing 70+ Faith Leaders endorse Pro-Life Governor Ron De Santis - gonna have a HUGE Impact on the Polls ===
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheism egress department.jpg|thumbnail|center|300px|The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.
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And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.]]
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheism egress department.jpg|thumbnail|center|300px|The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.
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And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.]]
  
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"Source: https://dailycaller.com/2023/09/14/exclusive-desantis-faith-leaders-early-states/
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EXCLUSIVE: DeSantis To Announce Endorsements From Over 70 Faith Leaders In Early States
 
  
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“As a husband and father, Ron DeSantis is a man of faith and as a leader, he’s shown his resolve in defending religious liberty. I am excited to join this Faith and Family coalition and support Ron DeSantis for president because I know he will execute the same strong leadership in the White House as he’s done in Florida: protecting life, defending our right to worship, and defending religious liberties,” Pastor and Iowa State Rep. Jon Dunwell said in a statement.
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What more evidence of [[malicious]] intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in [[User:Conservative]]'s games. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
  
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Here Is A [Partial] List Of Endorsements:
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===The inconsistent logic of a [[cult]] believer===
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*[[User:Conservative/Pro-Russia pundit calls himself "Simplicius The Thinker". If you have to tell the world that you are a thinker, you are probably not one]].
  
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*[https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/if-you-have-to-tell-people-youre If You Have to Tell People You’re the G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time), Then You Are Not]
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Dale Akkerman, Development Director at Timothy Christian School (Grundy)
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Pastor Bryan Anderson, Tabernacle Baptist Church (Lyon)
 
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Pastor Gary Axtell, Grace Baptist Church (Madison)
 
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Kathleen Banowetz, Head of Prayer Team (Linn)
 
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Pastor Joseph Brown, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
 
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Pastor David Bush, Fit for the King Ministry (Polk)
 
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Pastor Mark Cannon, Hope Baptist Church (Scott)
 
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Pastor Brad Cranston, Iowa Baptists for Biblical Values (Des Moines)
 
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Pastor Rick David (Linn)
 
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Pastor Mark Doland, Church of Christ (Tama)
 
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Gwendy Doland, Youth and Women’s Small Group Leader at New Hope Christian Church (Tama)
 
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Pastor & Representative Jon Dunwell (Jasper)
 
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Pastor Kirk Evans, Indianola Church of Christ (Warren)
 
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Pastor Lance Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan)
 
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Janice Fricke, Triumphant Church (Buchanan)
 
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Evangelist Caleb Garraway, Remnant Ministries (Washington)
 
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Senator Jesse Green, Bible Class Teacher at Trinity Lutheran (Boone)
 
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Pastor Michael Griswold, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
 
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Minister Matthew Haynie, Ogden Church of Christ (Boone)
 
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Pastor Jessten Heimer, Trinity Lutheran Church and School (Boone)
 
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Pastor Jeremy Higgins, Calvary Community Church (Linn)
 
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Brooke Higgins, Women’s Ministry Teacher at Calvary Community Church (Linn)
 
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Pastor Abe Koehn, Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
 
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Tom Law, Calvary Community Church (Linn)
 
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Pastor Matt Magee, Oak Grove Church (Benton)
 
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Pastor Ed Matthews, Bible Baptist Church (Wapello)
 
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Pastor Harerimana Nshoreyingabo, Redeemed Fellowship Center (Polk)
 
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Pastor Alfonso Perez, Miracle Life Family Church (Polk)
 
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Pastor Marcial Perez, New Dawn Ministries (Polk)
 
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Pastor Terry Pollard, Eastside Church of Nazarene (Polk)
 
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Sean Sanford, Youth Leader and Small Group Leader (Linn)
 
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Pastor Joyce Schmidt, St. Olaf Lutheran Church (Humboldt)
 
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Pastor Scott Sokol (Hancock)
 
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Pastor John Vermeer, Doon United Reformed Church (Lyon)
 
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Matt Wells, Lay Leader at Marion Avenue Baptist Church (Washington)
 
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Reverend Shane Wilson, Iglesia Espiritu y Verdad (Polk) ... [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:54, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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:[https://floridapolitics.com/archives/634342-q-ron/ Ron DeSantis trails Donald Trump by 50 points in latest Quinnipiac national poll]:
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:I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
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{{cquote|Another post-Labor Day poll says the Governor is losing ground.
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:: I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, '''being fed''' bad information on) the situation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
  
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::[[Prof. John Mearsheimer]], whom [[User:Conservative]] repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with [[Lt. Col. Daniel Davis]] about [[Western alliance|Western]] [[war propaganda]]: [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY]
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{{quotebox-float|'''Prof. Mearsheimer''' Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a [[propaganda war]] that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like [[Ben Hodges|General Hodges]] want to do is they want to buck up the [[Ukrainian]]s. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want [[the West]], both the [[United States]] and the [[European]]s, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the [[Russian]]s are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ''[https://www.scribbr.com/definitions/ad-nauseam/ ad nauseum]'' in [[the West]] and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. [[The West]] constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of [[drone]]s, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the [[Donbass]] in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....}}
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:::It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the [[Psyop]] & [[Propaganda]] articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
  
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The latest from Quinnipiac shows the Florida Governor far behind former President Donald Trump. In perhaps the most discouraging news, DeSantis has fallen 11 points further behind Trump than his August number.
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:::Furthermore, [[Vladimir Putin]] has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to [[Sergey Karaganov]], [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY?t=2992 the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream.] [https://youtu.be/2Gd5jdl36cg Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War], [[Glenn Diesen]].  
  
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Trump is now at 62% support, 5 points up from the previous month. DeSantis, now at 12% support, is 6 points off the August mark. No other candidate has more than 6% support.
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:::Why [[Andy Schlafly]] allows [[psyop]]s & [[propaganda]] to be tolerated as [[malicious]] [[personal attack]]s is the only question I have. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
  
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===[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&curid=177983&diff=2200766&oldid=2200711 User:Conservative openly and repeatedly calling for violence and killing people is "encyclopedic"]===
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Andy, If you have any problems with my editing contact me at my new email address. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 14:09, July 29, 2026 (EDT)
  
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“Among those voters supporting Trump in the Republican primary, 68% say they are firmly set on Trump no matter what happens leading up to the Republican Primary, while 29% say they might change their candidate choice depending on what happens leading up to the Republican Primary,” the polling memo asserts, suggesting that 42% of total respondents won’t budge.
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{{quotebox-float|[[The Conservative Treehouse]] website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of [[conservative]] misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "[[Sundance]]". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. In short, it's not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support).
  
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On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is [[right-wing]] without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.
  
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Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)}}
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{{Cquote|In a twisted [[Machiavellian]] way, perhaps the entire reason for [[John Solomon]] to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for [[justice]].  I don’t know; you decide.|||[[Sundance]]}}
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[[User:Conservative]] frequently uses the term "[[Machiavellian]]" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack [[User:RobSmith]]). When exhaustively questioned, [[User:Conservative]] states he has no understanding what the term means.
  
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Who's right and who's wrong, or who is telling the [[truth]], conspiracy nutcase [[Sundance]] or the "[[Machiavellian]]" [[John Solomon]]?
  
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“Is it that he is a not very skilled politician, or perhaps his not so long ago fight against Farmers, Social Security, and MediCare??? Or maybe it’s the lack of loyalty to the man who took the DeSanctus failing campaign, and through a strong Endorsement, got him elected. Whatever it is, few have ever witnessed a drop so fast and so severe,” Trump posted Wednesday. “It’s a beautiful thing, isn’t it?”|||Florida Politics, Sep. 13, 2023}}
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[[User:Conservative]] created this issue. Now man up. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/05/26/john-solomons-trust-me-bro-reporting-is-dangerous/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
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:—[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 16:56, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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C'mon, Mr. [[MAGA]], man up. You should be able to defend your [[slander]]s against your "enemies".
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{{Cquote|'''SUMMARY''': To be clear, I am saying [[John Solomon]]’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. '''Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to [[President Trump]]''' and/or any righteous movement toward [[justice]].
  
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[https://lauraloomer.substack.com/p/ron-desantis-skips-work-on-his-birthday] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:55, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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If that is accurate origination and that explains why he refused to provide the citation, the release of GJ material to Solomon is exceptionally damaging to any case(s) that might use it.  [[Steve Bannon]] and [[Sean Hannity]] will promote [[John Solomon]], while [[James Comey]], [[Mary McCord (DOJ)|Mary McCord]] and [[Jack Smith]] laugh about it.
  
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DeSantis calls out the Left's attacks on religious liberty: "The minute you get outside that church they think you need to bow down and bend the knee to their agenda. That's not religious freedom. That is not what our founding fathers fought for and established."
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[Video in the link] https://twitter.com/NvrBackDown24/status/1702781306986176948 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:39, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
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C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you [[slander]]s against me & Sundance with the [[truth]], or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
  
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[[User:Conservative]]/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a [[gay bathhouse]] in violation of [[Conservapedia Commandments]] to keep it family friendly, claims [[Russia]]'s '''reduction''' of [[gay]] bars is cause to continue [[Ukraine aid]]:
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How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.
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A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.
  
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-Us Attorney General Appointed Desantis To Serve As Special Assistant US Attorney At US Attorney’s Office In Middle District Of Florida When He Returned
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What's believed to still be operating, per gay travel guides: MONO, Three Monkeys, and the Hunters Party cruising club are reported as still going strong, while Nashe Cafe and NICE are likely still running in a subtle way as mixed establishments rather than openly gay venues.
  
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This confirms your "restaurant by day, gay bar by night" suspicion — one venue is described as a day-time dining venue that turns into an intimate gay bar in the evening and a dance club with drag shows on weekends.
  
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===[https://youtu.be/0Fk0KCF5lsY Eurovision 2026 - Germany Performance]===
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[[User:Conservative]]'s [[Nazi]] [[worship]] is catching on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 01:13, July 26, 2026 (EDT)
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{{Cquote|''Just like [[Napoleon]], I met the [[Russian]] [[winter]].
  
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''[[Stalingrad]]!''
  
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''Can we bring back the [[Molotov-Ribbentrop pact]]?''<ref><small>The allusion is to what some writers have claimed is that if [[Hitler]] had simply stopped after the [[Fall of France]] and had not broken the [[Molotov-Ribbentrop pact]] with [[Operation Barbarossa]] and the invasion of the [[Soviet Union]], Hitler could have retired as "the greatest [[German]] of all time". </small></ref>
  
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''Maybe half of [[Poland]] wasn't that bad.
  
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''I thought them weak, but I can see the [[Russia]]ns are strong now.
  
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[among many others - NX][[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:10, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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''The [[Untermensch]] have got the upper hand now.}}
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:NishantXavier, please: don't in ''every single Main Page talk post'' lazily paste a long text block. At the very least, if you don't want to summarize the main points, kindly put the copy/pasted text under <code><nowiki><small></small></nowiki></code> so less space is taken up, seeing that you especially are plastering content written not by you. Also, that long string of text isn't formatted properly in the context of how the end result is "intended" to be structured, seeing that Twitter text format differs greatly from wiki code. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 21:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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*[[User:Conservative]] [[Essay: The USA is more innovative and productive than China and Russia]].
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:This is straight out of ''[[Mein Kampf]]'': The [[Untermensch]] are incapable of building a [[civilization]].
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[[File:Nazi propaganda from US Embassy Kyiv.jpg|center|600px|thumb|[[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] from the [[US]] Embassy [[Kyiv]]. This is straight out of ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' about [[Aryan]] man being the "founders of [[culture]]". [https://archive.is/u77eo]  ]]
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:The sentiment was echoed by the "White Fuhrer" and [[American]] [[ally]] [[Andriy Biletsky]],<ref>[https://judgenap.com/ukraine-promotes-neo-nazi-to-brigadier-general/ Ukraine Promotes Neo-Nazi to Brigadier General], [[Kyle Anzalone]], [[Judging Freedom]], October 2, 2025. judgenap.com</ref> who was recently interviewed by [[Ukrainian]] [[dictator]] [[Volodymyr Zelensky]] [https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official/20065] to replace [[Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky]] as [[AFU]] [[Commander-in-Chief]]:
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{{Cquote|the [[historic]] mission of our [[nation]] in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against [[Semite]]-led [[Untermensch]]en (Subhumans). [https://responsiblestatecraft.org/azov-ban-lifted/] }}
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[[File:Screenshot 28-7-2026 14293.jpeg|center|850px|thumb|July 20, 2026 meeting with [[Andrii Biletsky]], ‘White Fuhrer’ and head of the [[Azov Battalion|Third Azov Army Corps]]. [[Mikhailo Drapaty]] and Biletsky were most favored to replace [[Syrsky]] as [[C-i-C]], with the [[MSM|Western press]] more positive towards Drapaty since he didn’t carry the baggage of commanding the world’s largest contingent of heavily armed [[neo-nazis]].]]
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:Here is just one, among several extended excerpts in that chapter from ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' of the [[spirit]] and flavor [[User:Conservative]] lifted from [[Adolf Hitler]]:
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{{Cquote|If we were to divide [[mankind]] into three groups, the founders of [[culture]], the bearers of culture, the destroyers of culture, only the [[Aryan]] could be considered as the representative of the first group. From him originate the foundations and walls of all [[human]] [[creation]], and only the outward form and color are determined by the changing traits of character of the various peoples. He provides the mightiest building stones and plans for all [[human]] [[progress]] and only the execution corresponds to the nature of the varying [[men]] and [[race]]s. In a few decades, for example, the entire [[east]] of [[Asia]] will possess a [[culture]] whose ultimate foundation will be [[Hellenic]] spirit and [[German]]ic [[technology]], just as much as in [[Europe]]. Only the outward form-in part at least-will bear the features of [[Asiatic]] [read "[[Eurasia]]n hordes"] character. It is not true, as some people think, that [[Japan]] adds [[Europe]]an [[technology]] to its [[culture]]; no, [[Europe]]an [[science]] and [[technology]] are trimmed with Japanese characteristics. The foundation of actual life is no longer the special Japanese culture, although it determines the color of life-because outwardly, in consequence of its inner difference, it is more conspicuous to the European-but the gigantic [[scientific]]-[[technical]] [[achievement]]s of [[Europe]] and [[America]]; that is, of [[Aryan]] peoples. Only on the basis of these [[achievement]]s can the [[Orient]] follow general [[human]] [[progress]]. They furnish the basis of the struggle for daily bread, create [[weapon]]s and implements for it, and only the outward form is gradually adapted to Japanese character.|||A. Hitler}}
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::Yah, and the "Graduated Yale University and Harvard University-Joined US Navy In 2004-Was Promoted...etc" belongs in the Template/Officeholder on his bio page, not here. And if it's already in his bio page, we especially don't need it here. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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:::As much as I vociferously oppose with you on other issues, I concur on this very specific point. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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:::::::::::You sound like a [[liberal]] in asking that question. Please listen to [[President Trump]] more and [[propaganda]] less. I am not your schoolteacher. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 22:49, October 17, 2026 (EDT)
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::::You need to separate the two hats I wear - three actually. (1) An Administrator and Moderator of the site; (2) a content contributor; (3) a user who sometimes expresses personal opinions and points of view in discussions. It's not always easy to separate functions, but comes with practice. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:33, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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I've corrected the formatting. This is Conservapedia and Governor Ron DeSantis' Conservative Accomplishments are highly relevant to whether he is a True Conservative or not (as some allege/claim that he isn't), and to current events given this is primary season. I've spoken of some of these accomplishments of his myself, and some of them are compiled by others, in which case I always credit the source. Don't shoot the messenger, if you think he doesn't have some of these accomplishments, name them, and name the Conservative Candidate you think is better. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:38, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:The problem isn't in the generic fact that you're covering issues. The problem is ''how'' you do it; you are spamming long quotes by other people instead of at least summarizing and condensing it in your own words. I'm just politely asking that you refrain from the habit of copy/pasting long text blocks '''that''' repetitively; it may be easy and saves time, though it's objectively a mediocre habit for a conservative wiki. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:01, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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Accomplishments are accomplishments. They are brute facts, and I have summarized it in my own words before, DeSantis running Record Budget Surpluses for e.g. It's why some Conservative Groups give him a near 100% Conservative Rating based on his Record. And I even put it in small tags now that you asked. Now, no more distractions to meaningless things; talk about the issues, or I'm out. God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:07, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
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::::::::::::I did. Trump said he obliterated the Iran nuke program in June 2025. [[User:RobSmith|Foghorn Leghorn]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do normal heterosexuals spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 01:19, October 18, 2026 (EDT)
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:Alright, I appreciate it, NishantXavier. It's not that there's anything wrong with pointing out facts; it's better to avoid taking up excessive space with directly pasted quotes. On the issue of DeSantis's record, yes, I agree that he has a solidly conservative slate of accomplishments. His record on racial issues is solid as well, as he's not afraid to dismantle the racist woke agenda, and he's signed legislation to punish antisemitic paramilitary anarchist groups. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:19, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Accomplishments go in the bio article. However, I would issue a caveat against campaign promises, or at least do it selectively. They tend to boomerang in a couple of years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:36, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Yes, he's a very Pro-Israel Governor too. He'll be a Good President imo. Let's see how it goes. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:30, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:About the issue of Israel, I'm increasingly skeptical of the Zionist side. While the anti-Zionist is filled with all sorts of socialist antisemites like neo-Nazis and like-minded ultrawoke college students rallying behind Palestinian [[national liberation movement]]s, that doesn't mean the pro-Israel side is quite innocent. According to Prof. Walter J. Veith, [[Benjamin Netanyahu]] is a high-ranking [[Freemason]]. It appears that the creation of the modern state of Israel is all part of a deception game concurrent with [[Futurism|Futurist]] theology created by Jesuit propagandist Francisco Ribera in an active scheme to subvert Protestants away from Historicist eschatology that implicated the Papacy as the Antichrist or Whore of Babylon. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:34, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
  
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'''Recommendation:''' Start the [[Ron DeSantis 2024 presidential campaign]] page. You can be the page manager right through the presential transition. If you need help, look at some previous successful and unsuccessful candidate's pages as a model. You can add all the daily stuff you find there rather than here (try to edit it down somewhat, cause the more successful he becomes the more space you'll have to edit and reclaim later).
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:::::::::::::I can't help you if you cannot listen to [[Trump]]. This is a classic case of User:TrollSmith engaging in his trolling behavior. He is so stupid, and he thinks everyone else is as [[stupid]] as he is. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 11:10, October 18, 2026 (EDT)
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And if the [[Biden FBI|FBI]] starts spying on his campaign to [[sabotage]] it, you'll have a contemporaneous record to work with (the Obama [[DOJ-NSD]] even began plotting to sabotage Trump a month before he came down the escalator to announce his candidacy in June 2015). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:48, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:I'm barely interested in the Republican presidential campaigns. The candidates are either corrupt establishment-owned globalist shills or antichrists. At the end of the day, the thesis/antithesis deception is only further perpetuated. If a globalist wins, the intent is to continue sowing misery and anger so eventually the populist "antithesis" rides the wave of backlash to political power. If Trump wins in 2024, perhaps we're closer to the end than I anticipated. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:50, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Oh no, I was talking to Nishant. He should be CP's point man on covering DeSantis, however long DeSantis lasts, through the primaries, up to the convention, up to the general election and into the transition. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 22:54, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Ok, Rob, I took your suggestion. The page is up: https://www.conservapedia.com/Ron_DeSantis_2024_presidential_campaign I only highlighted two unique accomplishments for now, (1) 6 week Heartbeat Bill, (2) Record of Military Service. I will add more as the Campaign goes on.
 
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A Christian Conservative who really lives his Faith can be trusted with decency, honesty, integrity etc. DeSantis is that. That's my opinion. We will see. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:12, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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From Politico, in Nov 2022: "According to the polling memo, which is based on survey data conducted Nov. 11-13, DeSantis leads Trump by 11 percentage points in Iowa and by 15 points in New Hampshire. Those numbers represent an improvement for DeSantis since August, when previous Club for Growth’s polling found Trump with a 15-point lead in Iowa, while the two were tied in New Hampshire.
 
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:Yeah, DeSantis was fierce in his advocacy for unborn children. Shame to see the Republicans less solidly prioritizing of the pro-life issue under Trump—at a Republican convention (in Florida, I believe) several years back, most participants in a poll considered immigration far more important, with a very low percentage ranking abortion as a priority issue to emphasize. The socialist wing of the party under Trump is too busy appeasing ethnonationalists than fighting for the right to life. Trump says [https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-bring-country-together-abortion-meet-the-press-rcna105311 the abortion issue should be downplayed to win votes.] —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 22:37, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:This is the gay married guy, isn't it? Yah, that's credible on the subject of honesty. Somebody who lies to himself on what marriages is. Sounds like a typical DeSantis supporter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:36, September 14, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:It's already posted on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:21, September 15, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Perhaps you have difficulty understanding CP's editorial stance: CP is in the pro-Trump camp, as of now. The DeSantis news (or Vivek or Nikki) doesn't really make it to MPR, unless it's real bad. It's open season on Pence.
 
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Who is failing to speak out? I already condemned that one extremist. Why do you refuse to condemn Putin's extremism that, at the height of the War, caused around 10 MN Ukrainians to suffer displacement from their homes, both within and outside Ukraine? Since most Ukrainians are Christians (around 90%) Putin is responsible for more Christians having to flee their homes these past 1.5 years than just about anyone. If you think that dubious distinction is worth something or worth celebrating, like his new found dubious distinction of celebrating North Korea, the #1 Nation in the Persecution of Christians according to [[Open Doors]], go for it. I stand with traditional Raeganite Peace through Strength. You were once strong on the CCP, Rob, but you've been slipping on that too sadly. Let Putin leave Ukraine and end the War. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 14:45, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Don't think I'm ignoring you or don't have an answer for your list of concerns. I'm presently looking right now for video clip of a woman/girl in Ukraine who was interrogated by the [[Ukrainian gestapo]] because all the contacts on her phone had their numbers changed and forwarded to Russia. Russia has accepted more Ukrainian refugees than any country in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:35, September 16, 2023 (EDT)
 
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/31/us/politics/trump-pac-filing.html [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 00:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:A $100 million is nothing. To put on a Trump rally is about $10 million. That's how Trump campaigns and spends his money. No other candidate really does that. And he puts on more than 10 rallies a year. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:16, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== Trump: DeSantis 6 week Abortion Heartbeat Bill - an objective Conservative Victory - allegedly "a terrible mistake" ===
 
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What say you, Trump supporters? Still think the man who once described himself as "pro-choice in every respect" doesn't retain some residuals of his earlier pro-choice position? Frankly, he's mistaken. DeSantis didn't make "a terrible mistake". Trump just did.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1703412453839622374 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 10:47, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:With the ''Dobbs'' decision, abortion is no longer a federal issue. For a guy running for governor of Florida? Yes, it is a campaign issue; for a guy running for president? No, it is not.
 
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:Nice try, though. Voters are confused enough without us ''adding'' to their confusion. Our task is untangle that confusion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 10:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Abortion in the military is a remaining federal issue; now the movement to abolish capital punishment in the states has gained traction, but not in the federal government. There is somewhat of a parallel there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:20, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Trump is selling Pro-Lifers out. I doubt this will play well in Iowa which, like Florida, has a 6 week bill: "if a heartbeat is detected, the baby is protected". HeartBeat Bills have saved countless lives. It's the duty of a Pro-Life President at least to express moral support for such Pro-Life Bills and approve, commend and praise them, as a President DeSantis will do, but Trump did not. I know some Pro-Lifers who are calling this disqualifying, including former Trump supporters. Bad. At a minimum, a 15 week federal abortion ban and encouragement of 6 week abortion bans at the state level can and should be rightly expected from a so-called Pro-Life President. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:22, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:The law as it exists now is, a woman in a state with strict abortion laws can join the military and get a free, taxpayer funded abortion. This more an issue at the Congressional level. That's what we need to focus on educating voters about. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Here's the danger: if we try to give the impression that voting for president makes a difference or solves the problems in abortion, essentially telling people to ignore who's running for state house or state senate cause the President will take care of the problem, that backfires - as it did for 50 years.
 
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:We finally got [[SCOTUS]] stacked to overturn ''Roe v. Wade''; the rules of the game have changed. Now we need a focus on state and federal legislators, not the Executive so much as has been the habit for 50 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:31, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::If you want to thank anyone for overturning ''Roe v. Wade'', thank liberal communist Democrat scumbag Leader [[Harry Reid]]. He's the guy who changed the rules in the Senate to appoint federal judges with a simple 51 vote majority. That untangled the Gordian Knot that existed for half a century. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:36, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::It was an historical fluke that made it possible, and [[Glitch McConnell]] - give him credit - he seized upon it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:39, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:The problem with DeSantis remains: every indication is that he's part of the controlled opposition, the [[uniparty]], a [[deep state]]r. And the more he tries, the more he gets exposed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:48, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:IOWs, the Heart Beat bill issue at the Presidential level, is a deceptive, bogus issue.
 
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:There are way more important Presidential issues that need to be focused on, for example taxpayer-funded Nazis. Discussion of Heart Beat bills is a deliberate distraction from actual issues only a president can deal with. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:53, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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We need 2 Terms of a President DeSantis, he will undo all the damage done by Biden and Obama, and turn the Courts in a Conservative Direction, perhaps forever. That's how you win the Culture War once and for all, not drag it on for 50 years more. Then, there are other reforms needed at the federal and state level, and those can be done in time. I repeat: 15 week minimum at federal level, encouragement of 6 week Heartbeat Bills from the Presidential Pulpit. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:54, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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DeSantis is faithful to his Conservative Base. Trump sells out in order to be a people-pleaser and to get some more Dem chums/friends.[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:56, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:The culture wars are a bottom-up issue, fought out in each individual's heart. Not top down. (In this sense, LT has somewhat of a grasp). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 11:58, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::The fact that the pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation to further its ends (which are honorable by all means) demonstrates its failures at the individual level. They failed to bring the new generation into repentance and out of the pagan ritual of sacrificing children to Moloch, and then expect the federal government to step in and fix the cultural problem they bungled. Instead of sufficiently convincing everyday people in their daily lives that unborn children are valuable individual human lives, and having failed to raise children to be sufficiently conscientiously moral people, they start scrambling upon finding out that society is not as godly as they hoped.
 
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::What can I say at the end of the day? The foremost leaders failed—they ran ridiculously weak campaigns. Had they truly had the zeal to fight for unborn life, they would've continued, without apology and in righteous anger, compared abortion providers to KKK mobs and Nazis, as many have done. They would've continued to unconditionally castigate the pro-abortion movement as nothing more than a low-grade mob of occultist child-sacrificing bums no better than Nazis.
 
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::It is my opinion that the leaders of the "conservative movement" have failed the average, devoted moral, socially conservative Christian on purpose—they knew how incompetent they were, and failed on purpose because they serve a higher order that is not of God but of their father the devil. I already explained the thesis/antithesis deception to you guys; try figuring out the puzzle here! —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Huh? "pro-life movement is resorting to federal legislation". Nishant is the only talking such stuff. I can't think of single legislator seriously pushing any federal legislation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> See Nishant, you even got LT confused now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:15, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::Alright, to my admission, perhaps I typed too quickly and shouldn't have added "federal" in there. My emphasis is that the pro-life movement is focusing heavily on legislative action to complete what they miserably failed. Now, will you at least address my at-large point as well instead of gleefully harping on a single mistake I made? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Trump needs to give his heart to God. He needs contrition and humility and needs to say: "I'm sorry, Lord Jesus, I've sinned, by denying that Your unborn babies with beating hearts are human beings entitled to all human rights and legal protection".
 
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Those with born again and regenerate hearts who know that Truth, and even some Secular Pro-Lifers who do, have every right to expect a Government as Good as the People, and a Pro-Life President who shares their Conservative Pro-Life Values, not "pro choice in every respect". [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 12:01, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Yeah, Trump is too arrogant to confess his sins and obtain a genuine heart of righteousness. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:10, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::How do you know? Are you God? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:17, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::"Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." (Matthew 7:20) Also, if you have the spirit of prophecy, which is the testimony of Jesus (Rev. 19:10), you should be able to gradually see clearly the larger game here. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Sunday, 12:19, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::''Simon, I have somewhat to say unto you...'' Simon, by her fruits, knew what manner of woman she was. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:24, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== Ages of Supreme Court Justices: Conservative Justices nearing retirement, a 2 Term President could appoint 2 or 3, perhaps 4 ===
 
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Here are the ages of the Supreme Court Justice. Important to watch. Both Sotomayor and Roberts will cross 75 by 2032, Thomas and Alito 80.
 
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"What are the ages of Supreme Court justices in 2023?
 
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From oldest to youngest, the ages of the current Supreme Court justices are:
 
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Justice Thomas, 75
 
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/10/how-many-justices-supreme-court-list-justices-2023/10796688002/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:59, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:It's not that easy. A president can't appoint who he wants. He can only appoint who the Senate will accept. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 12:21, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== Lila Rose's Response ===
 
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"Pathetic and unacceptable.
 
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Trump is actively attacking the very pro-life laws made possible by Roe’s overturning.
 
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Heartbeat Laws have saved thousands of babies.
 
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But Trump wants to compromise on babies’ lives so pro-abort Dems “like him.”
 
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Trump should not be the GOP nominee."
 
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https://twitter.com/LilaGraceRose/status/1703508913377902820 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:29, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== Matt Walsh's Response ===
 
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"An awful answer from a moral perspective. There is nothing terrible about stopping the satanic abortion industry from mass murdering human children.
 
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Also stupid politically. There is no compromise on abortion that everyone will like. It’s delusional to think otherwise. And contrary to Trump’s claims, almost all Democrats are indeed extreme on this issue. You will be hard pressed to find more than maybe two or three on the national stage who don’t want abortion until birth or beyond.
 
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You can’t win over Democrats by going squishy on this issue. Republicans have tried that brilliant strategy for decades and accomplished exactly nothing by it.
 
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Defend life clearly and powerfully and unequivocally. That’s the only way."
 
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https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1703526579962343621 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:30, September 17, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===DeSantis is a conservative. Trump is a socialist.===
 
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''The Hill'': [https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4209245-desantis-campaign-targets-trump-over-abortion-comments/ DeSantis’s campaign targets Trump over abortion comments]
 
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Good. Trump needs to be called out for abandoning the priority of human life. His mentality is just like that of "moderate Republicans" in the postbellum years who opposed [[Radical Republican]] support for civil rights, the classic "we can't emphasize these moral issues too much or we'll lose votes." And history is not kind to the Republican mavericks of [[Reconstruction]] who opposed the Civil Rights Bills, neither will it be to modern-day Republicans who abandon the issue of defending human life against child sacrifice to Moloch. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 09:19, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Agreed. Trump is flip-flopping back to a Liberal Pro-Choice stance on Baby-Killing, the Greatest Moral Abomination of our time. Pro-Lifer Lila Rose is right, it's pathetic and unacceptable to say State Laws that have saved 1000s of babies lives are "a terrible thing/a terrible mistake". Abortion is "a terrible thing/a terrible mistake". Not Hearbeat Abortion bans that have rightly saved 1000s of babies lives.
 
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"TRUMP FLIPS TO PRO-ABORTION, BETRAYS CONSERVATIVES 9/17/23 Trump said the Florida law protecting the unborn from abortion after 6 weeks was a "terrible thing." If Trump's view prevails on the Republican party, 17 pro-life state laws will be reversed...
 
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https://twitter.com/Chris__Iverson/status/1703497568540389878 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 10:43, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Trump [https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/trump-in-1999-i-am-very-pro-choice-480297539914 was once a "pro-choice" Democrat]. (he was part of the Reform Party in 1999 though didn't seem to change his "pro-choice" stance until much later [https://www.ontheissues.org/2020/Donald_Trump_Abortion.htm in 2011 or so]) So yes, concurred, Trump is merely reverting to his old Democratic roots. I suppose that's the ''real'' party switch. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 10:47, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Agreed. It's Pathetic Cowardice on his part. He is appeasing the Godless and increasingly Lawless Left, and spitting on many of his own MAGA Followers. I wonder if much of his base, especially Christian and Religious "Values Voters" like Evangelicals and Catholics, then Mormon and Jewish Conservatives etc will wake up and reject him for this liberal pro-choice stance of his. If Trump says this in the primary, we can only guess what he'd say in the general if he gets that far, then behind closed doors to his Dem Friends who he's bootlicking already. Trump is planning to sell out Pro-Lifers, Pro-Life Governors, Pro-Life States etc. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 11:24, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Trump will probably be the one to sell this country to the Antichrist, I'd wager. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 11:32, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===Life Site News Response===
 
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"Live Action President Lila Rose called Trump’s position “pathetic” and “unacceptable.”
 
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“Hey @realDonaldTrump, protecting human life at 5 or 6 weeks isn’t a ‘terrible thing’… it’s the right thing,” Students for Life of America President Kristan Hawkins wrote.
 
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Abortion is the deliberate destruction of innocent human life. There can be no deal made with Democrats who reject this biological fact and moral truth." [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 13:07, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===DeSantis responds to Swampy McCarthy endorsing/supporting Trump===
 
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Does DeSantis, or some of his staff, read Conservapedia? We've discussed "DeSantis runs Budget Surpluses, Trump increased Debt by 7.8/7 Trillion Dollars" and now DeSantis mentions the same. Possibly a coincidence, or possibly not. Anyway, here is what DeSantis said:
 
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'''In Florida, we run budget surpluses. We’ve paid down our debt. I’ve kept every one of my promises.
 
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https://twitter.com/RonDeSantis/status/1703845915625218142 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 16:18, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== DeSantis responds to Trump: don't claim to be Pro-Life ===
 
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"“I don’t know how you can even make the claim that you’re pro-life if you’re criticizing states for enacting protections for babies that have heartbeats,” @RonDeSantis told @RadioIowa this afternoon. #iacaucus" https://twitter.com/okayhenderson/status/1703870909449191601[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:03, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== LifeNews and Catholic Vote respond: Trump will lose without the Catholic Vote ===
 
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https://www.lifenews.com/2023/09/18/pro-life-leader-lila-rose-trump-should-not-be-the-gop-nominee/
 
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"“Pathetic and unacceptable. Trump is actively attacking the very pro-life laws made possible by Roe’s overturning. Heartbeat Laws have saved thousands of babies,” Rose added. “But Trump wants to compromise on babies’ lives so pro-abort Dems ‘like him.’”
 
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Abby Johnson, the pro-life advocate who formerly ran a Planned Parenthood abortion center, was equally condemning.
 
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“The Republican nominee for President should, at minimum, be able to say that men can’t be women and that it’s wrong to kill children in the womb. We’re not asking him to be a rocket scientist. We’re asking him to be a conservative,” she added.
 
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Trump and his campaign will have work to do to repair damage with pro-life voters." Pro-Life Catholics, it's an Easy Choice, really. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:32, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== DeSantis contra Trump: Protecting Babies Lives with Beating Hearts from Abortion actually "Noble and Just" ===
 
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"In a new interview with NBC’s Meet the Press, the former president denounced Florida’s heartbeat law protecting unborn children from abortion after six weeks when their heartbeat can be detected, calling it “a terrible thing” and “a terrible mistake.”
 
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“Donald Trump may think it’s terrible. I think protecting babies with heartbeats is noble and just and I’m proud to have signed the heartbeat bill in Florida and I know Iowa has similar legislation,” DeSantis said. “I don’t know how you can even make the claim that you’re somehow prolife if you’re criticizing states for enacting protections for babies that have heartbeats.”
 
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DeSantis suggested Trump’s remarks are :a window” into how Trump’s 2024 campaign is diverting from the promises he made during the 2016 campaign. “And I think he’s changing in a way that is not consistent with the values of the people in Iowa,” DeSantis told Radio Iowa."
 
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From: https://www.lifenews.com/2023/09/18/ron-desantis-protecting-babies-from-abortion-is-noble-and-just/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:56, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===Trump interview triggers Biden world===
 
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[https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2023/09/18/trump-interview-triggers-biden-world-00116606 Politico]: ''"Aides and allies of the president quickly moved to try and shape the media’s coverage of the comments. Mainly, they admonished stories that didn’t — in their estimation — note that Trump was, in the words of spokesperson AMMAR MOUSA, “the reason states across the country are able to ban abortion.”''
 
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:Oh, so DeSantis gets his talking points from the Biden White House and MSM. Okay, makes sense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 17:55, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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See above. DeSantis doesn't get anything from Biden, but is the antithesis of him. Dems are supporting Trump because they recognize one of their own in him. Planned Parenthood could have made those remarks that protecting Babies with Beating Hearts is "a terrible thing". [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 17:57, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Here's what happened: T attacked D; B observed weakness in T's attack and contacted MSM with instructions to focus on T's statements on abortion. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:01, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Nope. Even you said the Dems wanted to run against Trump last time because they thought they could defeat him. They want to run against him even more because (1) they know with greater confidence they can beat him, (2) he is basically a Liberal Democrat pretending to be a Republian with this Pro-Choice and even Pro-Abort stance of his. Therefore, what really happened was that:
 
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The Biden White House panicked that (1) Trump may lose HUGE SUPPORT among Catholics and Evangelicals, and thus lose the Primaries, and therefore (2) they sped into action to protect the preferred Candidate of the Dems, Donald Trump, who thinks saving babies are "a terrible thing, a terrible mistake". Simple. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 18:09, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Oh? Interesting—I must've missed the news on the Bidenazi world panicking over Trump possibly losing the primaries. Is there a direct source substantiating that point of yours, NishantXavier? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:30, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::The ''Politico'' link above. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:59, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::DeSantis is in the same position Trump was in in 2015; DeSantis is the MSM/DNC preferred candidate for the GOP nomination, cause they figure he'll be easier to beat in a general election. So they push Desantis now (as they did Trump in the pre-primary season), but by convention time they turn against him completely. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:06, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Oh, I see now; the Democratic establishment is worried that, with the media now portraying Trump as "moderate," he would end up being perceived by the public as less polarizing than Biden is. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:36, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::This is a game I've seen for as long as I can remember: the MSM pushes their preferred GOP candidate they figure will be easiest to beat, like Reagan or Trump; at the convention, they transmogrify from golden boy into the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:17, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::Sounds about right. XD —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 21:39, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===The "liberal Jews"===
 
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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-lashes-out-at-liberal-jews-who-voted-to-destroy-america-by-not-supporting-him/ar-AA1gT7Dy When will Trump learn that this won't help him gain the Jewish vote?] Ah well, it's hopeless for him and other philosemites in this regard anyways—most Jews lean liberal, probably because traditionally it was the "right-wing" clericals who persecuted them during the Middle Ages, and that traces all the way back to occultist, Gnostic, paganized infiltration of the churches of Rome and Alexandria during antiquity. But the extensive history is a lesson for another day.
 
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First off, no, this isn't "antisemitism," as the MSM is howling. "Antisemitism" is hatred towards Jews because they are Jewish; Trump wasn't broadly attacking Jews as a whole, he's criticizing ''liberals'' among Jewry because of their ''political leanings'', not because of religion or ethnic heritage. Secondly, while his comments are stupid naive antics, before anyone starts freaking out at his statements, one should keep in mind that [https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/06/judaism-abortion-rights-religious-freedom/661264/ left-wing Jews are known for misinterpreting Scripture to support all sorts of abominations like abortion.] Do they deserve sympathy in this case? No. Unlike theologically conservative Orthodox Jews who at least respect human life and understand the compassion of the Torah, the diehard apostate liberal Jews have no actual understanding of the Scriptures, or simply don't care for the biblical truth. ''For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.''
 
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While I can't defend Trump's ridiculous stupidity demonstrated in his impulsively brash statements, nor can I shill for his general policies, his criticism of "liberal Jews" isn't completely off the mark either when you take into account the sins of the house of Israel. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Monday, 18:28, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Trump has never said anything that wasn't cleared with [[Jared Kushner]] first. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:00, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::That may have been true during his presidency, but didn't Trump consider Kushner an [[Trump's inept advisers|inept adviser]] and shake off his son-in-law's influence? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Tuesday, 20:37, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===Hill - Iowa Evangelicals respond to Trump: 70% of Trump supporters are in favor of 6 week Heartbeat Abortion Laws===
 
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Great to see Devout Christians and Other Pro-Lifers waking up to what I've been warning about for like months now. Trump is not an Integral Pro-Life Conservative and he showed us that clearly and explicitly: he's going to sell out Pro-Lifers to please Dem Friends. He's insulting his pious MAGA Base, many of whom are indeed Devout Christians and True Pro-Lifers unlike him - they support 6 week abortion bans. Pray and work for America to be saved, which requires a national reformation and an authentic integrally Pro-Life President.
 
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“There’s a variance of opinions but I don’t think the average Iowa pro-life voter would appreciate what he had to say,” said David Kochel, a veteran Iowa GOP strategist.
 
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A New York Times/Siena College poll released last month showed 70 percent of Trump’s supporters in Iowa saying they were in favor of a state law banning abortion after six weeks of pregnancy. On top of that, the poll showed 69 percent of white, evangelical voters in Iowa, a critical group in the GOP nominating process, saying they supported a six-week ban as well.
 
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Terry Amann, a Des Moines-based evangelical pastor who has met with Trump and several other GOP contenders, called Trump’s comments “disappointing.”
 
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“I can’t speak for all caucusgoers but for the evangelical Christian community, it’s very troubling. Our goal is to see the number of weeks go down, not increase,” Amann said, referring to abortion restrictions.
 
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“It makes it really difficult for evangelicals and evangelical pastors like myself to really step up and give support because we just can’t support that type of position,” he continues ... “Most Republicans in Iowa do not think that that position is a stupid position, which is basically what Trump is saying,” Kochel said.
 
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Iowa is home to a strong anti-abortion activist base with groups like the Family Leader and the Iowa Faith and Freedom Coalition calling the state home.  
 
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Bob Vander Plaats, the president and CEO of The Family Leader, told The Hill on Monday that Trump’s comments reveal “his true colors."[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:02, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Ok. Now all you need to do is connect the dots how Trump, Biden, DeSantis or whoever will impact Iowa state abortion laws beginning in January 2025.
 
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:See, it's occupying our time with deceptive, misleading stuff like this that causes readers to wonder how serious you are about addressing their issues of concern, let alone how informed or honest you are being. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:09, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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First, DeSantis will SUPPORT, not OPPOSE Governor Kim Reynolds 6 week heartbeat bills, unlike Trump. Presidential support matters. Second, Republicans should be bold, and not run away from Abortion. SBA has a Poll that 70% of Americans are ok with a National Federal Ban on Abortion at 15 weeks. DeSantis has said he'd sign any Pro-Life Bill that comes to his desk and he will sign it. And yes, we need to marshal 60 Senate votes, but that's not impossible. Pray and work for Republicans to get a significant Senate Majority in 2024, and then aim to swing a few Pro-Life Democrats. It has to happen and it is the way forward. Abortion is like Slavery. Abolition is the Only Answer. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:19, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Republicans aren't running away from abortion. It's just a state issue, not federal. This is a simplistic and deceptive approach to voters, kinda like Democrats do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:29, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Nothing deceptive about it. You are liberalizing and sliding, Rob. Tell that to President Lincoln and the Original Abolitionists. We have to be Abolitionists on Abortion too. "More than 7 in 10 Americans Oppose Abortion after 15 Weeks (at most)
 
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A Harvard-Harris national poll found 72% of voters would limit abortions by no later than 15 weeks, including 75% of women, 70% of Independents and 60% of rank-and-file Democrats." https://sbaprolife.org/polling [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:33, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:That has nothing to do with any federal election. And it is misleading to present it as such. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:35, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Pro-Life Susan B Anthony Group, which is one of the largest pro-life organizations, have called for a Federal Ban, and I agree with them. I gave the source for the stats above. Read it and reflect on it. 70% are ok with post-15 weeks restrictions on the FEDERAL Level. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:42, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:If it hasn't worked for 50 years, it's not likely now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 06:33, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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=== Prominent SC evangelical leaders form coalition, back DeSantis in 2024 GOP presidential race ===
 
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Hallelujah! Look at the Momentum Buildup! Huge Numbers of Pro-Life Christians are rightly rallying around Pro-Life Hero, Governor Ron DeSantis.
 
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"A group of prominent South Carolina faith leaders are rallying support for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in his effort to woo evangelical voters in the 2024 race.
 
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Eighteen Christian leaders, including pastors, church leaders and theology experts, will lead a network of 100 members, the Greenville News has learned. The list includes leaders from churches based in the Upstate such as Hope Church, which has branches in Greenville, Spartanburg and Simpsonville, as well as educators from Bob Jones University and North Greenville University.
 
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"America is in need of a major revitalization!" said Hotwire Ministries CEO Pastor Mike Gonzalez in support of DeSantis' campaign. "Our border crisis, crime rates, and steady climbing inflation are bankrupting our nation. These issues are systemic and the result of poor and corrupt leadership. Governor Ron DeSantis will restore truth and common-sense leadership as President and will lead on day one in turning our nation in the right direction ...
 
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This year, DeSantis also signed a six-week abortion ban similar to South Carolina's recently passed legislation."
 
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===Is Trump planning to sell out pro-life state laws if he ever becomes President again===
 
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One thing Trump may be doing with his "deal-making" is hinting that he may do a deal for a very late term ban (1% of abortions or less, like 20 weeks), in exchange for the "deal" of giving Democrat Baby-Killers what they want: preventing Pro-Life States from early laws.
 
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"Trump may have hinted support for a federal law that prohibits state pro-life laws in exchange for a national late-term ban.
 
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That is pro-abortion. 93% of abortions are before 14 weeks." https://twitter.com/Chris__Iverson/status/1704284051639505102
 
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Another source for the 93% statistic: "In 2020, 81% of reported U.S. abortions occurred prior to the 10th week of gestation; 93% occurred prior to 14 weeks’ gestation (CDC)". A 15 week federal ban must be the national minimum; a 10 or 12 week ban would be better if possible.
 
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Also, note this: "More than 60 million legal abortions have occurred in the United States since 1973...
 
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In 2020, unmarried women accounted for 86% of all abortions (CDC)."
 
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The Abortion problem is ultimately a Fornication problem. It shows one mortal sin leads to another, and sadly sins have consequences."
 
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The link from Abort 73: https://abort73.com/abortion_facts/us_abortion_statistics/[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 07:37, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:It's difficult to say whether Trump is actually serious in ''appearing'' to betray the pro-life cause in favor of [[popular sovereignty]]. See, from his standpoint, it's about political pragmatism: he doesn't want to lose a ton of votes over the issue. So perhaps once he regains the White House, he'll continue instituting pro-life policies from where he left off in his first term. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 16:08, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===EXCLUSIVE: Ron DeSantis To Attend Texas Fundraisers Hosted By Funders Of J6 Committee Members===
 
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[https://lauraloomer.substack.com/p/ron-desantis-to-attend-texas-fundraisers I told ya, get off this donkey]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 14:32, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Um... do you have any better sources than a white nationalist? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 16:02, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Rumor is, Loomer is a transgender. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:29, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Loomer is Crazy as Hell. She has no clue what she's talking about. Ron DeSantis is a Proven Christian Conservative Champion, a Pro-Life Hero, an Anti-Woke Fighter, who runs Record Budget Surpluses, has brought Crime to a 50 year low in Florida, paid down 25% of the State Debt etc. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 19:49, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Yah, you only keep forgetting the [[uniparty]] [[ deep state]] [[globalist]] part. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 19:55, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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DeSantis is the man who can defeat the Deep State. If conservatives rally around him now, he will do all the rest. Trust God's Plan. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 20:27, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:[https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/senior-executive-service/ He's part of it]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 20:51, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===''The Babylon Bee'' gets it===
 
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[https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-says-there-are-very-fine-people-on-both-sides-of-baby-murder-issue Trump Says There Are 'Very Fine People On Both Sides' Of Baby Murder Issue] —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 16:01, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Lol. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 19:46, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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===If Trump's "full-on Nazi," then I guess the writer of his post must be a Jewish Nazi===
 
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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/siggy-flicker-i-wrote-trumps-post-that-lib-jews-are-ruining-america/ar-AA1gUC2o No wonder most of the MSM doesn't mention it.] The pathetic [[concern troll]] clowns calling Trump [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trumps-ominous-warning-to-us-jews-sparks-horror-full-on-nazi/ar-AA1gT2zv "full-on Nazi"] over the remark should think to themselves whether implying that Jewish people are Nazis is worth it. And of course, at least one MSM reporting couldn't help but irrelevantly invoke Trump's [https://www.newsweek.com/real-housewives-trump-jews-siggy-flicker-1828008 "very fine people"] [[quote mine]], because why not? Clearly the pro-Israel president with Jewish grandchildren who signed an executive order stopping anti-Jewish hatred on college campuses is the ''real'' antisemite.
 
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I personally would like to applaud conservative-minded Jews for giving their idiotic left-wing counterparts the rebuke they deserve, since I myself can relate to that particular feeling. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 15:59, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Trump's a genius. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 16:10, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::In this specific regard, yes, I agree. He takes into consideration how conservative-minded Jews (ostracized within their own communities) feel and makes their voices heard. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 16:18, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::Yah, and he knows these are [[uniparty]] attacks coming from the Biden junta, thru Team DeSantis & the RNC. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 18:06, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::It's also worth noting that the same Jewish groups panicking over Trump's rebuke of liberal Jews were probably the same ones who defended [[Ilhan Omar]]. It really makes you wonder when the Jews will realize they are being highly misrepresented. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 18:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::Indeed. How can so many Jewish people fail to grasp that Trump is, in fact, a sensitive man? [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::Because the liberal majority of them are are probably stuck believing that the Democrats are still the same great party of FDR and Truman and won't break free from their decades-long tradition of distrusting the GOP in general. Ever since, I don't know for sure, maybe the French Revolution (?), some elements of the political left presented themselves as allies of the Jews, who were frequently in desperation amidst persecution by "right-wing" clericals. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 22:19, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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====Extensive digression into socialism, abortion, "Christian Nationalism," and theological stuff====
 
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Speaking of Nazism, Abortionism is Nazism. See this: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1080/20508549.1999.11878366 [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 20:26, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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See also: "THE crime of abortion played prominently in two international trials held at Nuremberg following World War li-the Goering and Greifelt cases. Allied prosecutors made the case that voluntary and involuntary abortion were war crimes and crimes against humanity. The Goering judgment identified the Political Leadership Corps of the Nazi Party as a criminal organization, in part because of its policies promoting abortion." https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/58824124.pdf [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:07, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:We got all kinds of anti-[[Putin]] pro-[[Nazi]] cheerleaders out there today. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:12, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::The Nuremberg prosecutors were also staunchly pro-life. While modern-day abortion advocates like to claim "the Nazis weren't ''aCtUaLLy'' pro-abortion because they opposed abortion for German women," the prosecutors very much deemed the Nazi leaders supportive of abortion via loosening of abortion restrictions in occupied Eastern Europe. If you murder one person and not another, you're still a murderer, so the modern-day neo-Marxist left-wing argument is absurd. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 22:24, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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To be truly Anti-Nazi you have to be Pro-Life. "Guess What? Vladimir Putin Is a Pro-Choice Champion"
 
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See also: https://www.iwmf.org/reporting/putin-the-pro-choice-champion/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 21:24, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Weren't the Nazis [[natalist]]s? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 21:56, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::Yes. The Nazis implemented rampant government-sponsored natalist welfare, just as the Communists in the Soviet Union and Romania did, as a means of increasing the birthrate for full-on socialist purposes. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 22:19, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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The Entire Christian World banned and outlawed Abortion over a 100 years ago. Where was it first legalized? That's right, in the Godless, Communist Soviet Union, for one of the first things the Bolshevik Communists did when they took over Poor, Martyred Orthodox Christian Russia was Legalize Abortion. Sources: "Abortion was illegal in the Russian Empire. The practice is not directly referenced in the Domostroi, though child rearing is a common topic. During Tsar Alexis Romanov's reign the punishment for abortion was death, only later removed by Peter the Great. Abortion continued to be a serious crime until 1917 ... The Soviet government was the first government in Europe to legalize abortion. In October 1920 the Bolsheviks made abortion legal within the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic with their "Decree on Women's Healthcare". After the RSFSR the law was introduced in Ukraine (5 July 1921) and then the remainder of the Soviet Union.[3]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Russia
 
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Atheism has failed Humanity. You see, in the end, it's either Bolshevik Communism or Christian Nationalism. That's why Christian Nationalism is the Only Solution to the Pro-Abortion Holocaust. And it is a Great Glory of the Catholic Church to have been staunchly Pro-Life and fought the Abortionist Baby-Killers at every step, including in America, thus helping save Millions of Lives, as She continues to do, by Her Pro-Life Activism, and the Election of Pro-Life Catholic Ron DeSantis will complete it. God bless Evangelical and Orthodox Christendom for standing with us, and for all Conservative Pro-Lifers everywhere, even secular ones. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:38, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:NishantXavier, that '''precisely''' is the thesis/antithesis deception game right there. The Antichrist beast system will be a far-right theocracy, but how do you achieve one? Push a country as far left as possible into social-anarchist moral degeneracy, and then present "Christian Nationalism" as the solution. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 22:40, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Nope. That's the Christ and Anti-Christ Spiritual Battle. St. John tells you how to identify the Anti-Christ. The Liar who denies that Jesus is the Christ, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, is the Anti-Christ. This is true of [[Pharisaic Judaism]](need to update this, will do that shortly). "Who is the liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, even he that denieth the Father and the Son." (1 Jn 2:22). It is Pharisaic Judaism that most impiously pretends "Christian Nationalism is the Anti-Christ", although they are fine with Jewish Nationalism in Israel, even one that persecutes Christians: "CBN News has repeatedly reported on the Persecution of Christians in Israel. This comes from Pharisaic Judaism and its bigoted teaching against Christians. While Christendom stands with Israel and supports Israel's right to exist contra mundum (against the world), some Jews hate and persecute Christians and spit on Christian Clergy. Thankfully, other more moderate Jews respect Christian Pastors and Priests, but more progress is needed. Christians in Israel should enjoy the same rights and full freedoms Jews enjoy in America or Europe" https://www.conservapedia.com/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_World_Today#An_ungrateful_source_of_Persecution_of_Christians_-_Pharisaic_Judaism_and_its_Anti-Gentilism_and_Christophobic_Bigotry_in_Israel Christian Nationalism is recognizing Jesus Christ as King of kings and Lord of lords. A Christian Country like Great Britain had kings and lords; the claim of Supreme Authority inherent in the Biblical title, "King of Kings and Lord of lords" should be manifestly self-evident. Only Christian Nationalism can heal the wound in Jesus Christ's Sacred Heart for having heard from His own countrymen: "We shall not have this Man to be King over us" (Luk 19:14). [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 22:50, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:''Who hath bewitched you?'' I explained all this to you half a zillion times: you're attempting to literally apply some cherry-picked verses in a way that don't make sense. In 1 John 4:2–3, John clarifies that he is referring to ''spirits'', not ''individual people''. Do you not see with your eyes that countless people in this world will pretend to be Christian and then spout some of the most anti-biblical propaganda? Are you seriously saying that someone is automatically a faithful Christian just because they appear to profess Jesus as the Christ, without even testing them, as John tells us to do? (1 John 4:1)
 
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:And I made it abundantly clear to you that "Christian Nationalism" is simply part of the Hegelian deception game: the NWO ''powers that be'' created neo-Marxist moral degeneracy to push the world as far to the left as possible, so the resulting backlash against the far-left will be capitalized upon by the far-right into power, and thus the "far-right Christian Nationalists" will be able to institute an International Sunday Law, since Sunday is the Papacy's '''mark of authority'''. And I thought all this basic logic and critical thinking shouldn't be too hard for ''conservatives'' of all people to understand, but no, they too are blinded by the god of this world (2 Cor. 4:4), and are on their way to perishing with the world. One day, when probation finally closes and it's too late to turn back, don't say I didn't warn you. I tried what I could to bring the light to you, but all you "conservatives" would rather place your trust in the antichrists of this world who promise an earthly utopia and whose abode is the darkness, rather than letting the truth set you free (John 8:32) from the chains of worldliness that lead to ultimate perdition. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 23:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Faithless, Apostate, Rubbish. St. John clearly told you the liar is the one who denies Jesus is the Christ, and that fits the Anti-Christ sect of Pharisaic Judaism precisely, yet you refuse to call them out on that lie. You instead repeat the lie, which itself comes from Pharisaic Judaism, that the Papacy is allegedly the Anti-Christ - what rubbish! The Papacy confesses Jesus Christ is Lord, which no one can do without the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor 12:3) The Papacy confesses that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, therefore, God dwells in it, and it in God. (1 Jn 4:15). Meanwhile, the 2nd part of that 1 Cor 12 verse, about those who say "Let Jesus be cursed" is again speaking of Pharisaic Judaism. You are totally misguided and the blind leading the blind all the way to the pit. The Papacy stands as the most Pro-Life Institution on the Planet, saving Millions of Lives; those are Fruits that show it is from God. Read Mat 16:18-19 and Mat 18:17. Finally, that's another unheard of stupidity from Pharisaic Judaism; as if Christians cannot receive Sunday Communion when the Lord Jesus Himself gave Sunday Communion to His Disciples on the Road to Emmaus! Lol. Clueless stupidity, Biblical illiteracy, theological ignoramuses. The "mark" is something that will be forced on the forehead or right hand. That has nothing to do with Sunday Communion. You are still under the Law and dead to Grace if you teach Christians have no right to worship and receive Communion on Sunday. Sad. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:26, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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To make it even clearer to those who have eyes to see, for Pharisaic Judaism, the Papacy is Anti-Christ because Jesus is Anti-Christ (to them). It's they who say "Let Jesus be cursed", as St. Paul mentions, and as he says elsewhere, those who say that are anathema. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:30, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:[EC] ''Pharisaic Judaism?'' You really don't know what you're talking about, and are contradicting yourself. I've made it clear over and over again that I'm a Christian, and you're saying that only someone who openly denies Jesus as the Christ is "antichrist." Well, since by your own logic, "Pharisaic Judaism" is antichrist, then I'm not of Pharisaic Judaism since I affirm Christ as Lord and Savior. How did you not think this through, NishantXavier? —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 23:41, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:And again, John said that every ''spirit'' that confesses Jesus is the Christ is of God. The Papacy, by the way, has throughout its history vehemently denied the authority of God in its writings. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zASWUqMm_JM&list=PL95B1BB23B7A3C795&index=20 Here's] an excellent playlist, and I'll also provide a [https://archive.org/details/converts-catechism/page/n63/mode/2up direct quote from the horse's mouth]:
 
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:The Papacy, which ordered the cold-blooded murder of millions of Christians during the 1,260 years of reign (Daniel 7:25), namely the Waldensians, Albigensians, Huguenots, and Messianic Jews, ''is the most pro-life institution on the planet?'' I don't know how you expect me to believe that.
 
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:The biblical concept of communion has little to do with the paganized man-made traditions that infiltrated into Christianity during the Nicene era. Also, if the mark is a literal stamp on the forehead or the right hand, that would imply that a Christian who in good conscience refuses the mark yet has the stamp forced upon them would "receive the mark of the beast" and therefore be lost, and that notion makes zero sense at all. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 23:43, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::I'm not going to wade into this kerfuffle much, however for the sake of clarity, I would suggest clarifying one aspect: the "Catholic" church of 386 AD bears no resemblance to the same "Roman Catholic" church of today. IMO, using the term, in the context it is being used, is misleading and evokes prejudice. Modern audiences will mistake it as such. I would suggest a disclaimer or clarification. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:51, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::[EC] In a literal sense, I think see where you're coming from. Modern-day "mainstream" Catholicism was shaped by the new liberal reforms of the Second Vatican Council, and the "old" strain of Catholicism prior to that is what appears to be known today as "traditionalist Catholicism." That said, "traditionalist Catholicism" that bears resemblance, if not sometimes outright identical (that's primarily with the extremist sects though) to the Catholicism of the Dark Ages, and that faction definitely is rooted in the pagan/occultist/Gnostic infiltration of the church during the fourth century. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 23:55, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::The term "catholic" means "universal" or "gentile", or "non-Jew". The name comes from the formal name of ''The Catholic Epistles of Paul'' (''Epistolen Katholika''). The [[Eastern Rite]] is and remains 'catholic". I am a small "c" catholic. All Protestants are small "c" catholics (careful, a Baptist or Lutheran may smack you for that). [[Messianic Jews]] are not catholic.
 
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:::::The Roman Catholic divide first arose with the [[Great Schism]] with the Orthodox, and again with the Protestant Reformation. "Catholic" is used generically in [[Western culture]] to refer to [[Roman Catholics]], however historically "Catholic" (big or small) can be applied to the entire gentile church that was grafted in.. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:03, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::Now yes, the apostolic church did use the term "catholic" in the sense of "''you are all one in Christ Jesus.''" (Galatians 3:28) Of course, the paganizers who took over the church in the 4th century under Constantine clearly hijacked the term to promote not universal brotherhood ''among Christians'', but rather universal brotherhood ''between Christianity and paganism''.
 
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::::::It's also like that with the term "Lord's Day"—it's nowadays a common synonym for "Sunday," but the record of the apostolic church in no way indicates this. If, in fact, the Lord's Day referred to the first day of the week since the [[Didache]], then why is it that the only ante-Nicene church father to explicitly promote Sunday observance, [[Justin Martyr]], never once refers to the first day of the week as the "Lord's Day"? Because the Lord's Day in the 2nd century, like in the 1st, referred to the Sabbath day. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 00:07, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::Paul emphasizes over and over again, "to the Jew first, and also to the gentile". It's why he's called the Apostle to the Gentiles. He wrote and preached the Catholic or Universal Epistles (Jew and gentile). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:10, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::<digression>It's one reason I reject [[Papal Primacy]]; Paul & Peter agreed Paul would go to the Gentiles, and Peter would remain head of the Jewish Church in Jerusalem. So how does Peter become head of the gentile church? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 00:16, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::::::::::The question is brought up over and over: if the Papacy traces back to the Apostle Peter, why is it that popes aren't married as Peter was? So Roman Catholicism had to devise all sorts of deflecting explanations, and it's no wonder that ''their'' Bible translation, derived from the [[Latin Vulgate]], would like to twist Scripture to fit their own doctrinal positions. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 00:27, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:::::::Gentile congregations had always existed. Acts 15 says, ''"Therefore my judgment is that we should not trouble those of the Gentiles who turn to God, but should write to them to abstain from the things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, and from what has been strangled, and from blood. '''For from ancient generations Moses has had in every city those who proclaim him, for he is read every Sabbath in the synagogues.'''”''
 
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::::::::Oh wow, I didn't know all that before. Interesting. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 02:08, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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We've gone over this before. Read the Gospels and actually believe them. Jesus Christ founded One Church one the Rock of St. Peter. He said, "You are Peter, and on this Rock, I will build My Church". He promise the Gates of Hell would never prevail against this Church. Historically, it is as certain that Jesus Christ founded the Catholic Church, as that Martin Luther founded the Protestant church, and Ellen White the SDA sect. "Unless the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it". Only the Catholic Church has the promise that Hell's gates will never conquer Her. God gave Peter and His Church the promise that what She binds on Earth will be bound in Heaven. It's the Catholic Church that determined the 73 Book Biblical Canon in the 4th Century, including the 27 Book NT we all accept. That reminds me of something Conservative asked me elsewhere, which I'll now go and respond to. Whoever claims the Papacy is Anti-Christ is himself of the anti-christ and the devil. The Papacy confesses Jesus Christ is the Son of God, teaches the Holy Trinity, and is Pro-Life. The Catholic Church has saved countless millions of souls by teaching Jesus Christ is Lord, and also countless millions of babies' lives. Here, and there, a few mistakes have been made, as by other Christian denominations also, but totally exaggerated and lied about by the ignorant. Lord Baltimore's Maryland practiced Religious Tolerance - look it up. Then Catholics became persecuted, like in England also, for a while. But finally, by the Grace of God, the Apostolic Truth of Religious Freedom/Tolerance was recovered, and mistakes corrected[[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:27, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Oh, calling the Papacy "Antichrist" designates someone as from the spirit of antichrist? Let's connect the dots together: the spirit of antichrist is denying that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. To say "calling the Papacy antichrist means one is antichrist" implies that the Papacy itself is the ''Vicarius Filii Dei'' (the Roman numerals in that title add up to 666, BTW), which itself is blasphemous, because it rests on the false premise that the pope/church ''is'' Christ. In Greek, the prefix "anti-" means "replacement." Vicariuus Filli Dei, the title of the pope, means "replacement for the son of God," which in the Greek tongue literally means "Antichrist." The Vatican couldn't have done humanity a better favor in identifying itself right there!
 
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:To address the argument that "Jesus founded the Catholic Church"—I'll use an analogy. Hollywood has continued in organizational succession for the past decades upon decades; does this mean that the Hollywood of 70 years ago is the same Hollywood today? Of course not! Hollywood a long time ago was conservative and patriotic, while today it is morally degenerate. Likewise, the same church from the apostolic times was passed down generation after generation into what eventually became the Catholic Church, but that doesn't mean that the resulting Catholic Church holds the same values as the original apostolic church; Roman Catholicism formed as a result of Christianity compromising with paganism during Constantine's reign. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 14:08, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/protin.htm [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:30, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Yeah, it's hopeless for DeSantis at this point. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 23:23, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::It's why DeSantis is focused so much on Iowa, they even announced a second place finish is as good as a win, remember? But you hear no reports coming from the DeSantis camp in New Hampshire unlike the flood of propaganda coming from Iowa. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup> 23:25, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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::(ec) You hear nothing about "DeSantis endorsed by New Hampshire kingmaker nobody ever heard of with a 0-10 record" like in Iowa while Trump picks up [[Speaker McCarthy]] and bunch of Senators. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]</sup>
 
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===Reminder: Pharisaic Judaism destroying Christian America by pushing Abortion-Killing as "Religious Freedom"===
 
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My blood boils when I read this. Pharisaic Judaism encourages spitting on Christian Clergy and Christians in Israel. But they spit on Christians even more when you spit on the tireless prayers, sacrifices, vigils outside Pro-Life Centers and Abortion Clinics for the last 50 years. Wake up, America! It's Pharisaic Judaism or Christian Nationalism. Tertium non datur (there is no third option). We need Christian Nationalism in the United States and All Christian Countries because only Christian Nationalism can stop the Baby-Killing Abortionist Holocaust that has claimed 2 Billion Lives worldwide. Atheism and Pharisaic Judaism are culpable. Christianity will Triumph.
 
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I’m a rabbi and a scholar in residence at the National Council of Jewish Women, which fights to preserve the right to abortion and expand access to the procedure. Our organization’s Rabbis for Repro network includes more than 1,800 Jewish clergy of every denomination committed to supporting abortion access for all. My activism is grounded both in Jewish law and in my tradition’s understanding of our profound commitments to one another." https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2022/06/judaism-abortion-rights-religious-freedom/661264/ [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 23:36, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Nope. Complete Ignorance from you. First, even your own link says: "The influence of the top pagan medical physicians and Greek philosophers on the religious teaching of many of the Jews can be seen in the Babylonian Talmud – a Jewish religious writing of the 400’s or 500’s A.D. The Babylonian Talmud stated: “The embryo is part (literally, ‘a thigh’ of its mother). (The) embryo (is regarded) as part of the mother…one of her own limbs.” When giving a description of a pregnant woman, the rabbis said, “There was originally one body and now also there is one body.” 11 Many Jews did not have the Biblical concept that an unborn baby is a distinct human even while being nourished in his/her mother’s womb."
 
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Pharisaic Judaism is that Anti-Christ Sect which denies Jesus Christ is the Virgin-Born Son of God, and preaches Circumcision instead of the Cross, and Sabbath instead of Sunday. It is and was condemned by Christ and His Apostles, and its wicked works like promoting abortion bear witness that it is of the devil. The righteous works of the Catholic Church, like condemning Abortion and promoting Life, as well as of all Pro-Life Christendom, bear witness of the Spirit's presence in Her/us, which is completely lacking in Pharisaic Judaism [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 08:21, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:Once again, '''you're failing to pay attention'''. The quote you're citing about the Babylonian Talmud and the 400s or 500s A.D. ''has little to do with traditional Pharisaic Judaism'', because the Pharisees officially as a sect dissolved shortly after the the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. To reiterate: Hellenization 🠂 pro-abortion. Sadducees = pro-Hellenization, Pharisees = anti-Hellenization. The historical evidence therefore indicates that support for abortion within Judaism grew out of Sadducee influence, not Pharisaism.
 
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:There is no biblical evidence that God ever changed observance of the seventh day of the week to the first. Your own church hierarchy has openly admitted this for centuries in his encyclicals, speeches, and other writings. During the [[Council of Trent]], the Protestants were criticized for moral hypocrisy and inconsistency: they continued to keep Sunday holy, thus abiding by Catholic teachings, because ''sola scriptura'' would dictate that they observe the Sabbath. And that was why the Protestant Reformation lost: the church, out the abundance of its own arrogance, stated the quiet part out loud in order to undermine Protestant validity. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 11:46, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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:The '''''Epistle of Barnabas??''''' That is an almost-certainly apocryphal piece of literature that has no biblical validity whatsoever. If it was truly written by Barnabas, the question is brought up: why is not in the New Testament? In addition, it's filled with anti-Jewish bigotry, contradicting the egalitarian nature of the early apostolic church. It was [https://www.evidenceunseen.com/theology/historical-theology/the-epistle-of-barnabas/ only accepted as canonical in Alexandria], one of two chief cities (along with Rome) known for its pagan, Gnostic, occultist influence that crept into the church. The evidence is clear: the Epistle of Barnabas, contained in Codex Sinaiticus, is a forgery that belongs in the same trash bin Sinaiticus was found in.
 
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:Speaking of anti-Jewish bigotry, your headline here implying that abortion is a Jewish plot against "Christian America" is an antisemitic canard traditionally propagated among white supremacists, and to an extent, probably among black nationalists as well. '''Traditional Judaism rejects abortion'''. By blaming "Pharisaic Judaism," you are ignoring the pagan origins behind the "abortion holocaust" and giving the real culprits a free pass just to blame, as always, "the Jews." It's no wonder, seeing that the branch of Catholicism you adhere to is traditionally known for anti-Jewish diatribes and is directly rooted in antisemitism. —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Thursday, 11:59, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Oh please. So traditional Catholicism is anti-semitic? Talk about anti-Catholic Bigotry. Hasn't this lie been pointed out to you before, that the Catholic Church saved nearly 1 Million Jewish Lives in the Nazi Period? Here's the source: ""Those rescued by Pius are today living all over the world. There went to Israel alone from Romania 360,000 to the year 1965."
 
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The vindication of Pius XII has been established principally by Jewish writers and from Israeli archives. It is now established that the Pope supervised a rescue network which saved 860,000 Jewish lives - more than all the international agencies put together.
 
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It's a sin to dislike someone because of their race. But it's perfectly legitimate to call into question or to hold to account someone's Radical pro abort or Anti Christian behavior. Promoting Abortion in a Christian Country by distorting the Torah in favor of Talmudic Pharisaical traditions condemned by Jesus Christ is a damnable offense in His Sight. It has nothing to do with the color of one's skin, as Anti-Racist Champion and Christian Pastor Dr. Martin Luther King rightly observed. It has, as he continued, everything to do with the content of one's character, for distorting the Bible/Torah/Ot to promote Abortion reveals a bad character God will condemn. God will not condemn anyone because of their race. He will condemn many for their wicked works, like Promoting Abortion. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 13:14, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Source for the above, of Saintly Pope Ven. Pius XII saving nearly ONE MILLION Jewish Lives during Nazi atrocities: since some of these Jewish Believers also became Christian Believers and saved their Souls thanks to the Church’s Action in saving their lives, as was documented above in the case of the the Chief Rabbi of Israel, who took the name Eugenio after the Pope, the Church saved their Souls as well, by leading them to Baptism/Christ.
 
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The Catholic Church is the largest Pro-Life/International/Humanitarian/Philo-Semite/Anti-Racist/Universalist Organization on the Planet. She welcomes people of all races and cultures into her fold without exception. She loves all, and works to save all. But She rightly condemns the Great Wickedness of those who promote Abortion without craven fear because She fears and loves only God and greatly and tirelessly works to save as many Babies' Lives of all races as possible. She is of God, but Pharisaic Judaism is that Synagogue of Satan Jesus Christ Himself condemned in the Book of Revelation. Denying Christ's Divinity, denying the Virgin Birth, slandering Jesus and Mary (as in the Talmud), promoting Abortion, all these are wicked works condemned by God. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]<sup>[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]</sup> 13:23, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
 
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Theory of Relativity

Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)

Interesting hypothesis!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)

Your best protection

Once I quoted Chaucer to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others." This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.

That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.

This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound". If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped. What is the fallacy in this line of thinking? A Christian ought to know. A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.

And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.

Another thing I wonder about: Is the poisonous deadly, or is only poison deadly? The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly". VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

For the record

“ Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was. ”

—Thomas Friedman, NYT, April 3, 2022.[1]


“ There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, World War III is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the Great War or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of mutual destruction, but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and the United States of America (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism. ”

—Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.[2]

“ I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the Thirty Years' War in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, philosophically speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it. ”

—Alexei Arestovich, January 14, 2024.[3]

“ Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas. ”

—Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.[4]

“ The United States confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of World War II. The United States could in short order be drawn into a war across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose. ”

—Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.[5]

“ Look at what's happening in geopolitics. We're on the verge of World War III right now. We got a dementia patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the mainstream media or the political class or the big corporations out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an aristocracy that is trying to bleed the peasants dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the US took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of debt. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the gold standard and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is financial and economic history they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries. ”

—John Robino, August 24, 2024.[6]

“ Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. History will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the world order that would be comparable to the post-World War II period with the creation of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the United Nations, these other Western controlled institutions that have been the foundation for the existing international rules-based order. ”

—Larry Johnson, August 30, 2024.[7]

“ Remember 1940. In three weeks, Americans will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the president who will determine the nation’s conduct during World War III, which has begun. ”

—George Will, October 16, 2024.[8]

“ World War III has never been closer.' ”

—Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.[9]

“ World War III has already begun. ”

—Jamie Dimon, October 24, 2024.[10]

“ I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the third world war has begun. ”

—Valerii Zaluzhny, November 21, 2024.[11]

Note: Zaluzhny is the prime candidate of the globalist deep state to become the next puppet president of Ukraine once Zelensky is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things World War III has already begun. [Ed.]
“ US policymakers fail to learn the lessons of history and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in Eastern Europe into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in NATO threatens to transform the war in Ukraine into a Third World War that could cost the lives of ten times more. ”

—David T. Pyne, November 21, 2024.[12]

“ The sudden collapse of Bashar al-Assad's despotic regime in Syria this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: World War III has already begun. ”

—Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.[13]

“ World War 3 is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. Russia, China, and their allies want to transform the current US-led world order that has been in place since the end of World War 2 from unipolar to multipolar—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The US and its allies want the unipolar status quo to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite nuclear Armageddon, where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—proxy wars, economic wars, financial wars, cyber wars, biological wars, deniable sabotage, and information wars. This is World War 3. It's happening right now and rapidly escalating. ”

—Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.[14]

“ World War III is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people. ”

—Major General Apti Alaudinov, June 13, 2025.[15]

“ We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous. ”

—Steve Bannon, June 18, 2025.[16]

  1. ↑ Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I, Teller Report, 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com
  2. ↑ Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway, 11/1/2023. menafn.com
  3. ↑ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger, Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com
  4. ↑ Sergei Karaganov: Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke, Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.
    Karaganov goes on: "But when the Americans felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring military superiority, the foundation upon which the West's dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world wealth. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s hypersonic, Poseidon and other systems have ruined these hopes. They abandoned the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles [the treaty between the USSR and the USA, signed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in Washington ]. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the ABM Treaty, and so on. Instead they have got a war that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our men for that… However we will ensure our security and sovereignty, and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke. I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from Europe again. Europe is the spawn of evil for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the life of one generation, the sin, which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."
  5. ↑ Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org
  6. ↑ John Rubino. rubino.substack.com
  7. ↑ From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview, Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. YouTube
  8. ↑ Opinion World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed. By George F. Will, The Washington Post, October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com
  9. ↑ Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.
  10. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says, By Suzanne Blake, Newsweek. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com
  11. ↑ 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador, By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, The Mirror, 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk
  12. ↑ Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office, David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com
  13. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note, Bryce Hoffman, Forbes magazine, December 8, 2024. forbes.com
  14. ↑ 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels, by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com
  15. ↑ Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops, Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq Mirror, 13 Jun 2025.
  16. ↑ Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon, The Christian Science Monitor, Jun 18, 2025. YouTube.

Socialist Prime Minister of Slovakia and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left Robert Fico declares sovereignty from European values by signing Constitutional Amendment declaring there are only 2 genders [4]

What is the EU & NATO gonna do with this Putin puppet? Invade Slovakia? Impose sanctions? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the US/Biden regime idea of "democracy" with rigged elections like in Moldova, Romania, France, Germany and the UK?

If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Oh, I get it, finally. Election fraud and political assassinations are preferable to authoritarianism, in User:Conservative's mind. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Of course, User:Conservative wants to censor and hide this from AI. [5] RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

off-topic gay bathhouse rant

 
A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by User:Conservative, June 8, 2008. [1]
Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?: Summary: "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
Is Slovakia a member of NATO: Summary: "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Ahh, St. Petersburg & Moscow are not in Slovakia.
But you obviously can't get gay bathhouses off your mind.
I trust this clarifies matters.
RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [6]).
According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[7] Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. Conservative (talk) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
According to Grok, User:Conservative's criticism of Vladimir Putin is because of Putin's suppression of LGBTQ+ rights:

[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]

Yes, User:Conservative, a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions...These fit into a broader pattern where roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ suppression under Vladimir Putin."

 
Russian Chechen commander addresses Ukrainian POWs, 2022.

off-topic homosexual obsession

Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!, Jan 4, 2007
There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[8]
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.
Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas! (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). Conservative (talk) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)

Open letter to Andy Schlafly

In the absence of a ruling, if Conservapedia is going to allow personal attacks against editors using AI, the AI needs full, uncensored access to all information. User:Conservative is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his claptrap on his talk page. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)

Donald Trump comments on User:Conservative's trolling

 
Message from Trump

Open message to User:Conservative (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)

Some observations [9]

There are two types of homosexuals. There are those with a homosexual obsession, and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with sex than the national emergency, the Nazis persecuted. The second group, like Scott Bessent, Pete Buttigieg, Peter Thiel or Ric Grenell, constituted many high level Nazis throughout the Third Reich. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of homosexuality remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the United States in recent decades as the gay rights movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.

You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the NATO war in Ukraine, that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a nazisymp - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of authoritarian dictator or communist, you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a Nazisymp. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the Ukrainian Nazi movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.

Call it a learning curve for all of us. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)

Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[10][11][12][13]
The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[14]
Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". Conservative (talk) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Do you have a point? Are the Nazis in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
I've covered this before, but you prefer to be stupid about it. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
In Russian, the politically incorrect term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike America and the West, the media and military do not censor or suppress the term. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: "4 faggots!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.
Wait til the readers on Telegram hear - User:Conservative wants to fund the faggots. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that User:Conservative drives his opponents and enemies traffic into Conservapedia. Telegram has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k User:Conservative has reduced CP to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's claptrap, it could be arranged. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's faggots and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025
Update: News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The faggots from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025
Update: "The faggots, the hohols, are trying to take revenge for the attacks on energy and railway infrastructure by a drone attack on residential buildings in Belgorod." - October 4, 2025.

Second Rebuttal

Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?

Summary:

"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.

Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.

Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.

Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." Conservative (talk) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)

The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the Zelensky regime has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)

See also: Talk:Conservapedia#Hate crime.

 
"Viral video" in the main Conservapedia article cited and linked by User:Conservative, removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service against violence and graphic content.

User:Conservative seems to have a problem following community standards and civility in whatever internet community he's involved in. RobSRecovering Republican 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)

All this could have been avoided

Originally, for Conservapedia's first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that Nazism & fascism were "rightwing" and or "conservative". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.

Unfortunately, Conservapedia has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in good faith to avoid Nazi & fascist rhetoric.

I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their rhetoric, who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. RobSZelensky Must Go! 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)

NYT: Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?

Nope. Not in Conservapedia. Only a liberal would force the issue. RobSRecovering Republican 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative uploads Nazi propaganda to Conservapedia in what he considers to be "a joke"

 
Israel National News, August 16, 2018.
 
Slava Ukraini! See also Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?, Mordechai Sones, Israel National News. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by Swedish scholar Per Anders Rudling.

Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [16]

You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ User:Conservative ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on bigotry when called out. RobSRecovering Republican 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited over 100 mainspace articles that he created, cited and linked to Vox Day (like this one or here and here), deleted the internal link to Vox Day and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This antisemite is now cited by User:Conservative in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for Vox Day from talk pages.
This is bad faith and sociopathic editing. RobSRecovering Republican 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
I have removed Theodore Beale from the Atheism and Mass Murder page (all 3200+ bytes of the Nazi antisemitic spam). 1 down, 99+ to go. RobSRecovering Republican 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Correction: All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. RobSRecovering Republican 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims User:Conservative

What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:

If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.

That is not how:

  • Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
  • David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. RobSRecovering Republican 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  • The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  • Moral theology evaluates responsibility
  • Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.

Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.

Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:

  • Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  • Those critiques helped Christians
  • I cited those critiques in good faith
  • I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
  • I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
  • The good fruit remains good fruit
  • I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  • I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
  • I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. Conservative (talk) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
If any of that is true, you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to Vox Day or Theodore Beale to Essay space and label them with {{Essay By|Conservative}}, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". Jews are welcomed at Conservapedia, both religious and secular.
Andy should note, your smears of Slobodan Milošević being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. RobSRecovering Republican 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Many great works were anonymous. A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found. Thanks for the clarification re: Slobodan Milošević.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
The error in User:Conservative's mind is like this:
Communist = atheist = non-Christian = Jew.
RobSRecovering Republican 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how User:Conservative tarred Milosevich as an atheist. He's done so with countless others.
The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & bigotry User:Conservative has spammed into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
Ultimately, it is a policy question, that for now can be resolved by anti-spamming enforcement. User:Conservative's habit of spamming the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. RobSRecovering Republican 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)

I never said Slobodan Milošević was an "atheist", etc. etc. Conservative (talk) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia, 24 July 2017 and more. See: Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him. 21 September, 2016. Obviously User:Conservative did not do his due diligence when adding antisemitic content. Nor when he posted the liberal claptrap above claiming he was "acting in good faith" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "bad faith" actors.
I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic content you've spammed into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-spamming policy with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
We actually have such a policy. There is no enforcement. User:Conservative violates it with impunity. RobSRecovering Republican 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Question: Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from Vox Day and hide his name? RobSRecovering Republican 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
User:Conservative tarred the converted Christian Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, as an atheist and proponent of bestiality into at least 342 mainspace articles. [17][18][19] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
His spamming of blatantly false and malicious information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he spams it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. RobSRecovering Republican 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?

[20]

Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobSRecovering Republican 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)

 
This is what is called "censorship".

Note: The point was made four days before the Oct 7 attacks.

Conservapedia's trolling problem

User:Conservative said,

  • "On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [21]
Update: John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in John Brennan probe for two months. Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel Joe diGenova was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe. By John Solomon and Jerry Dunleavy. Just the News. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [22]
"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a Congress in its own party’s control that referred Brennan in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."

User:Conservative disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and Conservapedia readers with his narcissistic trolling. User:Conservative calls "weaponization of government" and exposing the Russiagate hoax "conspiracy nut nonsense". RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

Attack on Conservative Treehouse

User:Conservative also wrote:

  • "The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [23]

Update: Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation. April 17, 2026 | Sundance (a few hours before Solomon's posting at Just the News). [24]

John Solomon, Jerry Dunleavy (of the Washington Examiner), Joe diGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing (of Uranium One fame), Sundance, Sidney Powell (who defended Gen. Michael Flynn) and Sara Carter are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the Russiagate scandal. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.

Update: Joe diGenova placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the crimes committed against President Trump, from Russiagate, his sham impeachments, the rigged 2020 election and the illegal criminal charges and lawfare attacks waged against President Trump. [25]

Statement by Sundance in relation to recent indictment of James Comey:

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then Biden) that claimed, “national security,” should not be disclosed to the defendant, Donald Trump. The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the executive branch, are not questionable by the judicial branch.

This precedent now applies to James Comey’s memos. If the DOJ/FBI/IC define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing security matters and Russia, then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.

The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for leaking classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against Donald Trump. Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.

When I reminded the DC people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.

Source: The Conservative Treehouse: Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony, April 30, 2026, Sundance.

Sundance is an "insider".

User:Conservative knows nothing about the issues he has spammed, trolled, and disrupted with negative SEO. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to Conservapedia, its users and editors. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

Simplicius

User:Conservative wrote:

  • [The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
Because of Simplicius fair criticism of Trump, MAGA cultist User:Conservative convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying Conservapedia's reader base with his advocacy of Biden/Clinton foreign policy, MAGA cultist User:Conservative is hell bent on dragging down the Republican party, the conservative movement, and what remains of the original MAGA movement with his 37%.

The Big Question

How long will Mr. Andy Schlafly continue to allow himself to be led down the nihilistic path User:Conservative has led him which has destroyed collaboration and Conservapedia's user & reader base? RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that User:Conservative has followed through with his threat to target articles created by User:RobSmith posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

 
Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: Traffic to RobSmith's articles.

Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate. ::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! Conservative (talk) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

 
RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.

You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.

If you still have any high hopes for your articles getting a lot of web traffic, I would stop having those high hopes.
User:Conservative: Your Satanic symbols of death are convincing.

“ As he thinketh in his heart, so is he. ”

—Proverbs 23:7

 ::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)" ::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes. ::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

 
The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.
ly soften the curve."
The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)



 
The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.

Andy,

What more evidence of malicious intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in User:Conservative's games. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

The inconsistent logic of a cult believer

I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. Conservative (talk) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, being fed bad information on) the situation. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
Prof. John Mearsheimer, whom User:Conservative repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with Lt. Col. Daniel Davis about Western war propaganda: [26]
Prof. Mearsheimer Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a propaganda war that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like General Hodges want to do is they want to buck up the Ukrainians. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want the West, both the United States and the Europeans, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the Russians are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ad nauseum in the West and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. The West constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of drones, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the Donbass in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....
It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the Psyop & Propaganda articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
Furthermore, Vladimir Putin has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to Sergey Karaganov, the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream. Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War, Glenn Diesen.
Why Andy Schlafly allows psyops & propaganda to be tolerated as malicious personal attacks is the only question I have. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)

User:Conservative openly and repeatedly calling for violence and killing people is "encyclopedic"

Andy, If you have any problems with my editing contact me at my new email address. RobSDo heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens? 14:09, July 29, 2026 (EDT)

You decide

User:Conservative wrote:

The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. In short, it's not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support).

On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.

Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)

Ok, Mr. Expert. We need your input:

“ In a twisted Machiavellian way, perhaps the entire reason for John Solomon to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for justice. I don’t know; you decide. ”

—Sundance

User:Conservative frequently uses the term "Machiavellian" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack User:RobSmith). When exhaustively questioned, User:Conservative states he has no understanding what the term means.

Who's right and who's wrong, or who is telling the truth, conspiracy nutcase Sundance or the "Machiavellian" John Solomon?

User:Conservative created this issue. Now man up. [27] RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

C'mon, Mr. MAGA, man up. You should be able to defend your slanders against your "enemies".

“ SUMMARY: To be clear, I am saying John Solomon’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to President Trump and/or any righteous movement toward justice.

Because, yet again, in this instance, if he is not lying (a significant assumption at this moment in history) then -once again- he is alluding to having FBI/DOJ emails that are being used in South FL USAO investigations, likely provided by Kash Patel or others, that would be grand jury material – if the GJ stories of an investigation into a ‘conspiracy against rights’ are to be believed.

If that is accurate origination and that explains why he refused to provide the citation, the release of GJ material to Solomon is exceptionally damaging to any case(s) that might use it. Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity will promote John Solomon, while James Comey, Mary McCord and Jack Smith laugh about it.

FUBAR.

There is a reason why Tulsi Gabbard’s approach was effective, and the deep state feared her. She silently reviewed, then spoke with receipts.

”

—Sundance

C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you slanders against me & Sundance with the truth, or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

If this makes sense to anyone, please explain

User:Conservative/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a gay bathhouse in violation of Conservapedia Commandments to keep it family friendly, claims Russia's reduction of gay bars is cause to continue Ukraine aid:

On Sun, Jun 14, 2026 at 11:23 AM Mark Miller <redacted> wrote:

I did some additional research on how many gay bars/clubs exist in Moscow, Russia:

How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.

1:18 PM

Searched the web Searched the web No precise official count exists, but a rough picture as of 2026:

A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.

Nomadic Boys

What's believed to still be operating, per gay travel guides: MONO, Three Monkeys, and the Hunters Party cruising club are reported as still going strong, while Nashe Cafe and NICE are likely still running in a subtle way as mixed establishments rather than openly gay venues.

Nomadic Boys

This confirms your "restaurant by day, gay bar by night" suspicion — one venue is described as a day-time dining venue that turns into an intimate gay bar in the evening and a dance club with drag shows on weekends.

Travel Gay

Bottom line: there's no reliable current "number" — maybe a handful (roughly 3-5) of openly or semi-openly operating venues, down sharply from the dozen-plus that existed pre-2023, with most surviving spots deliberately keeping a low profile or dual-purpose cover to avoid drawing police attention.

Eurovision 2026 - Germany Performance

User:Conservative's Nazi worship is catching on. RobSDo heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens? 01:13, July 26, 2026 (EDT)

“ Just like Napoleon, I met the Russian winter.

And now my empire is starting to splinter like his once did.

Does history have amnesia? Cuz it's repeating itself again.

Stalingrad!

Yeah, the battle is over, turning the war.

I thought we just have to kick in the door.

Can we bring back the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?[1]

Stalingrad!

Maybe half of Poland wasn't that bad.


I thought them weak, but I can see the Russians are strong now.

The Untermensch have got the upper hand now.

”
This is straight out of Mein Kampf: The Untermensch are incapable of building a civilization.
 
Nazi propaganda from the US Embassy Kyiv. This is straight out of Mein Kampf about Aryan man being the "founders of culture". [3]
The sentiment was echoed by the "White Fuhrer" and American ally Andriy Biletsky,[2] who was recently interviewed by Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky [28] to replace Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky as AFU Commander-in-Chief:
“ the historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans). [29] ”
 
July 20, 2026 meeting with Andrii Biletsky, ‘White Fuhrer’ and head of the Third Azov Army Corps. Mikhailo Drapaty and Biletsky were most favored to replace Syrsky as C-i-C, with the Western press more positive towards Drapaty since he didn’t carry the baggage of commanding the world’s largest contingent of heavily armed neo-nazis.
Here is just one, among several extended excerpts in that chapter from Mein Kampf of the spirit and flavor User:Conservative lifted from Adolf Hitler:
“ If we were to divide mankind into three groups, the founders of culture, the bearers of culture, the destroyers of culture, only the Aryan could be considered as the representative of the first group. From him originate the foundations and walls of all human creation, and only the outward form and color are determined by the changing traits of character of the various peoples. He provides the mightiest building stones and plans for all human progress and only the execution corresponds to the nature of the varying men and races. In a few decades, for example, the entire east of Asia will possess a culture whose ultimate foundation will be Hellenic spirit and Germanic technology, just as much as in Europe. Only the outward form-in part at least-will bear the features of Asiatic [read "Eurasian hordes"] character. It is not true, as some people think, that Japan adds European technology to its culture; no, European science and technology are trimmed with Japanese characteristics. The foundation of actual life is no longer the special Japanese culture, although it determines the color of life-because outwardly, in consequence of its inner difference, it is more conspicuous to the European-but the gigantic scientific-technical achievements of Europe and America; that is, of Aryan peoples. Only on the basis of these achievements can the Orient follow general human progress. They furnish the basis of the struggle for daily bread, create weapons and implements for it, and only the outward form is gradually adapted to Japanese character. ”

—A. Hitler

  1. ↑ The allusion is to what some writers have claimed is that if Hitler had simply stopped after the Fall of France and had not broken the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with Operation Barbarossa and the invasion of the Soviet Union, Hitler could have retired as "the greatest German of all time".
  2. ↑ Ukraine Promotes Neo-Nazi to Brigadier General, Kyle Anzalone, Judging Freedom, October 2, 2025. judgenap.com

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