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Request on behalf of another person. Update: Please ignore this request

Andy, I am canceling this request. The person does not want to read classic conservative books and articles.

Correct, my only main reading list is the Holy Scriptures.

Andy, could you please share with me a list of books that you would recommend for someone who wants to know more about conservativism.

Below is the reading list, I came up with so far.


1. Ten Conservative Principles by Russell Kirk

2. The Fate of the State by MARTIN VAN CREVELD, a historian (The article is on big government and how it is losing power and/or effectiveness).


1. A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful (1757) by Edmund Burke, Complete text of the book online

2. Russell Kirk's book: The Conservative Mind from Burke to Santayana (1953), put Burke in the mainstream of American conservatism. Copy of book: online edition

3. Wealth, Poverty, and Politics by Thomas Sowell; Video: Wealth, Poverty, and Politics by Thomas Sowell

4. Equality: The Impossible Quest by the historian Martin van Creveld

5. A Choice Not an Echo by Phyllis Schlafly

Thanks in advance.

By the way, if Conservapedians come up with a list of articles and books, a recommended reading page could be created called Classic conservative books and articles or Conservapedia: Recommended conservative books and articles reading list or some other name for the page. Conservative (talk) 09:03, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

I'd recommend the classic, Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world for a survey of conservative values. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:37, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
Fantastic idea. I just restored the essay at: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world
I always thought the essay should not have been deleted, but I errantly chose not to stand my ground on principle. Conservative (talk) 10:19, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
"I errantly chose not to backdown". Keep going. I need more material for Essay: Does ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity define conservativism?. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:29, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
I have learned that you should never back down to non-conservatives because they never can be placated. In other words, appeasement is not a valid strategy. So never back down.
And given how much Andy is against the homosexual agenda, I am sure that he will never allow the essay to be deleted in order to placate a non-conservative.
And the timing is perfect. Now only Andy can delete web pages with more than 25 edits. Conservative (talk) 10:40, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
Interestig theory; the problem is you need the powers of discernment to recognize who or what is conservative. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:45, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

After allowing the essay to be deleted, I subsequently read a classic best-selling book on assertiveness. It is a classic book on that topic. Never back down!

At the same time, wisely choosing your battles is wise too. "Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical." - Sun Tzu.

In retrospect, it was not a matter of appeasement. I just thought at the time that the battle was not worth it at the time. But now it is much harder to people to delete essays/articles. In addition, Andy has given a higher priority to conservatives fighting the homosexual agenda so I have an ally who places a higher priority on Conservapedia keeping such essays. Conservative (talk) 11:06, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, wait. The essay has been preserved. I merely retitled the essay. The essay is at: Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic pantywaists in the world. So I will ask Andy to delete the essay because it is a duplicative essay. Conservative (talk) 11:11, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
See, I don't understand this. You spent hundreds of hours reporting on decrepit UK infrastructure and potholes. Now that we have two reports in the past few days,
about 1,000 British concrete school structures crumbling and being a life hazard to school children, you ignore the evidence.
You might actually have something to add to Conservapedia proven right. 17:43, September 18, 2023 (EDT)
In the current state of this world, no one truly needs all those books by Phyllis Schlafly, Russell Kirk, or whoever. All we need is the Bible to warn of what is to come so we are ready for the perilous times. What does it matter how "conservative" you are by pointless "right-wing populist" standards if you end up on the wrong side of Judgment?
By the way, Phyllis Schlafly supported Moderate Republican Nixon over right-wing populist Reagan in 1968. Also, her effort to tie the Goldwater wing of the GOP to the Taft wing is an ahistorical, hasty generalization—Taft led the isolationist Old Right, while Goldwater Republicanism was an outgrowth of the Eisenhower-affiliated New Right. Rothbard breaks it down perfectly.LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 11:28, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
We do not have a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:31, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
"We go to Paradise, but they won't have time to repent."
RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

If Jesus wrote Hebrews, how would you explain this?

"Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you." (Hebrews 13:23) This doesn't sound like it would make sense under the theory that the Epistle to the Hebrews was Jesus's sermon on the road to Emmaus. Timothy is mentioned nowhere in the Gospels and his name only first shows up in Acts chapter 16.

Also, in the King James Bible, the last verse of Hebrews contains the additional: "(Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy.)" While I earlier believed your assertion that Jesus could've wrote Hebrews, I'm now mostly convinced of Pauline authorship. What are your thoughts on this, Andy? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:46, September 19, 2023 (EDT)

The original Epistle to the Hebrews ends with 13:21, where there is a final "Amen". The subsequent verses are later additions, perhaps to support the incorrect attribution to Paul. Linguistic analysis is very scientific today and almost no expert today clings to the view that Paul wrote this letter.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
Evidence? As far as I'm concerned with manuscripts, the Gnostic-corrupted Codex Vaticanus simply ends Hebrews after verse 9:13 (probably because the subsequent passages contradict pagan Roman and Alexandrian doctrines), and if other early manuscripts ended in verse 13:21, how come 13:22–25 are in modern translations, especially in comparison to the excluding of countless other "disputed verses"? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:33, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
Modern translations add notes about disputed verses when they are not in the oldest extant versions, but there are additional ways to identify disputed versions. This is a flaw in modern versions in not using all the logical means available today for spotting the vandalism to the Bible.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:13, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
Hmm... interesting analysis. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 12:25, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
Also, on a side note, did you notice my post slightly above about the Mosaic law? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)
I'll take a look!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:13, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
Awesome; after a long time of me not fully understanding the New Covenant and "the law," more recently I came to these new conclusions while prayerfully reading Hebrews one morning. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 12:25, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Mission accomplished!

Take a look at THIS and THIS and THIS.

I became an editor of Conservapedia with the goal of assisting Christendom to help cause the atheist movement to die (See: Decline of the atheist movement).

Mission accomplished!

On behalf of all Christians on the internet, I hereby declare victory! Olé! Olé! Olé!

Have you read Conservapedia's Future of Christianity article?

And take a look at these articles: Internet evangelism: Christians vs. atheists and Internet outreach and the Matthew effect: Atheist websites vs. religious websites and Large list of atheist websites that have lost web traffic - with supporting data and Internet atheism has a small audience and an insignificant influence on the world

Christendom will be going from one glorious victory to another glorious victory on the information superhighway! Deus vult! Conservative (talk) 10:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Make up your mind, Christendom or demonology. Seems to me you're more an expert on the later. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:38, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Only now you're looking into faith /works?
"I think I may have to understand the Greek better, do more Bible exegesis, etc." bla bla bla.
if you read James, you would have read, If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him, but maybe you don't believe what God says, and would rather keep trolling us with this incessant nonsense. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:46, September 20, 2023 (EDT).
[EC] One think that irked me is that Conservative has more than once told me I need to study according to man-made "Bible exegesis" in order to understand the word better. Wow, because the Holy Spirit is just too incompetent, eh? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 10:49, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Oh c'mon, I told you repeatedly: the "atheist movement" at this point means nothing because it only represents a tiny fraction of atheists, many of whom fell away from Christianity because of insufficiently faithful parents. If you're trying to smash atheism, it hasn't worked in terms of influencing the younger generations. Women in the past were more devoutly Christian than men were (I think Phyllis Schlafly wrote about this on Eagle Forum I read years ago about how older generations of women were more socially conservative? Hopefully my memory isn't failing me.); women nowadays are more inclined towards neo-Marxist cultural insanity like the notion that they have the right to sacrifice their unborn children to Moloch. Hardly among my peers in my teenage years have I ever found girls who are pro-life, a position more often men take because they have better capability to grasp basic logic and not let third-rate, emotionally driven propaganda get in the way of.
If atheism was defeated, its fruits would likewise diminish. Since, you know, atheism is clearly linked to things like homosexuality (see: Atheism and homosexuality), violence (see: Atheism and violence), and mass murder (see: Atheism and Mass Murder), the fact that homosexuality, general violence/crime, and mass murder rapidly increase in society nowadays probably is a sign that your declared "victory" is bogus. I'm really sorry to say all this, Conservative, and please don't take this personally; it's the plain simple truth you need to face sooner than later. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 10:12, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
File:Google Trends atheism and agnosticism terms 9-2-2023.jpg
According to Google trends, there has been a large decrease in Google searches in the world for the following terms: atheist, atheism, agnostic and agnosticism.

Atheist defeat after atheist defeat after atheist defeat! That's ok. Atheists are used to losing! Conservative (talk) 10:32, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Did you read anything I said? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 10:34, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
My graph was a Google Trends graph for the world. The United States population is equivalent to 4.23% of the total world population. Furthermore, post 2050 or sooner, a trend of desecularization is expected to occur in the United States (See: United States, irreligion vs. religion and demographics). Conservative (talk) 10:42, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
In the name of Richard Dawkins's long-lost machismo, will you please pay attention to my larger emphasis? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 10:44, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

One more time (as I told User:Conservative on the phone in 2007):

Preaching anti-atheism is not preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

It does nothing to bring souls to salvation. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:52, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

There is no connection, whatsoever, between defeating atheism or internet atheism and furthering Christianity or the Gospel of Jesus Christ. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:56, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Exactly. At the end of the day, the Antichrist will be anti-atheism as well because atheism also denies Lucifer/Satan as "supreme lightbearing god of the universe" or whatever. "Anti-atheist" does not automatically equal pro-God. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 10:58, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Of course. Satanists are theists who believe in a supreme divine spiritual being. They're just confused who that being is. User:Conservative never makes that distinction. He preaches believing in a divine spiritual being is the end of all your problems. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:10, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Exactly. Anti-atheism is like "anti-Communism"; just because you oppose one form of what's bad does not automatically make you good. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 11:12, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

LT, I addressed your arguments concerning anti-atheism content at: Talk:Internet atheism. Conservative (talk) 11:36, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, I responded. Hopefully my reply will clarify matters. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 11:40, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
For the benefit of others (Not the person who is fond of using huge print instead of cogent arguments).
Atheism and its retention rate in individuals
Next, internet evangelism works. Study Reveals Internet Evangelism Is Effective, Christian Post
Given the low retention rate of atheists historically, anti-atheism content and internet evangelism is likely going to have an effect. Irenaeus spent time arguing against Gnosticism. So Christians engaging in Christian apologetics relative to criticizing another worldview is nothing new. Conservative (talk) 12:06, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Good answer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)
Then why don't you focus on fighting neo-Gnosticism in modern society? It's all around us; you just need to realize it. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 16:51, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Denial of Pauline authorship of Hebrews is linked to modern translations, it appears

In the KJV, the term "Christ Jesus," almost entirely Pauline-associated, is used once in Hebrews. However, modern translations in verse 3:1 omit the "Christ" part. Coincidence? —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 01:33, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Fascinating! The KJV translation did not have access to the oldest texts, which had not yet been discovered. I wonder if the Christ in "Christ Jesus" was, like the ending added later after "Amen", a subsequent addition to Hebrews 3:1.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:10, September 21, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, the supposed "oldest texts," codices Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, are merely the oldest manuscripts out of what remains today. The actual oldest manuscripts are long gone, and the real question is whether codices B and ℵ derive, to its core, from the oldest documents or not. Although copies of manuscripts compiled after the 4th century are indeed "younger" than those two in a literal sense, they are copied from manuscripts that trace to apostolic times long predating Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.
For example, the Johannine Comma, excluded in most manuscripts and especially Vaticanus, was in the Vaudois (early Waldensian) Bible in 157 A.D., and that was translated from manuscripts given by Antiochian missionaries in the 120s A.D.—Antioch was the hometown of one of John the Apostle's disciples, Ignatius. In addition, as I've mentioned before, Mark 16:19, while gone from Vaticanus, was plainly quoted by Irenaeus in Against Heresies.
Vaticanus omits the entirety of the Pastoral Epistles. Why? Because in the early church era, the Pastorals posed a problem to occultist infiltration of the church, evident in the subversive Gnostic influencer Marcion also omitting them from his own compilation of "canon." Do you think it's a coincidence that the same modern-day liberal deniers who claim the Pastorals were forgeries gloat upon its absence from Codex Vaticanus and Marcion's compilation? I hope you'll see the larger picture here. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 12:21, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Another argument against Jesus writing the Book of Hebrews

Conservapedia does have a page titled Conservapedia:Principles of evaluating historical claims and evidence.

It does quote the historian David Hackett Fischer who wrote: "Evidence must always be affirmative. Negative evidence is no evidence at all. In other words, Fischer is saying that an absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence." But even so, if God Himself wrote Hebrews through Jesus, one would expect the book to have much excitement and fanfare surrounding it.

But here is a stronger principle. There is the principle of letting others sing your praises. I just don't see God personally writing a book where He praises Himself. For example, the book of Hebrews starts out: "In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs." Conservative (talk) 12:27, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Waaa! Boo Hoo!

Moved to : Conservapedia:User_complaints#User:Conservative redux

Reminder: Conservapedia Guidelines say Doxing is Inappropriate Behavior

"Engaging in doxxing. Doxxing is the criminal practice of releasing private or sensitive information about someone online for the purposes of harassment, intimidation and/or malicious intent."

Lets make sure we never release personal or private information about others online. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:20, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

"for the purposes of harassment, intimidation and/or malicious intent", where did that occur? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:24, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
Absolutely agreed, NishantXavier. Leaking emails is a ☭liberal☭ trait. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 19:33, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed, LT. I got doxed too on an Atheist forum: Nothing major, I preached the Gospel to the 1000s there (, gave various Apologetic Evidences for God and Christianity, then got doxed about my One Peter Five and other stuff, with malicious intent, then got banned from that Atheist Forum for complaining. Lol, but anyway, I did my duty to the Lord there, so I'm happy. But yeah, I would just say in general, we should never mention personal or private information about others here. Still at work, and will sign off shortly, haven't read all the details here yet. I signed the CP pledge recently and intend to abide by it. I hope we all do. Whatever the past, let's make sure, in future, we never share anything personal or private about others. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:41, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

"let's make sure, in future, we never share anything personal or private about others" ... just like we would not want others to do to us.

Our Lord Jesus Christ said: "Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you: do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets." (Mat 7:12). God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 19:44, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

ok. Nobody wants to answer my question. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:50, September 22, 2023 (EDT)
The internal squabbling needs to end. It would be very easy for a more peaceful and courteous atmosphere to begin. I will do my part in this.
As far as Team CP, it is a good concept. Hopefully, we will start fully implementing it as quickly as possible and we won't move backwards. Conservative (talk) 05:41, September 23, 2023 (EDT)
I know it's a good concept. You are the one who refuses to take the pledge to abide by CP Guidelines and treat you fellow editors with deference and respect.
And don't think by adding your name now will change things. It will be a mockery of the whole concept. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:11, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

Waaa! Boo Hoo! Part 2

Andy, User:Conservative is invading my User space and violating the Castle Rule. You have previously ruled several times this a taboo. Please tell him to cease and desist. Thank you. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:46, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

I have asked User:Conservative to stop trolling my talk page and gossiping about me. [4] He has thus far refused. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:41, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Please delete this

Please delete this page: LGM.

Thanks. Conservative (talk) 17:27, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

Let's work together and help ensure Conservapedia cross 1 Billion Page Views - perhaps by Christmas/December 2024

Let's work together as CP editors to the Common Cause of boosting Conservapedia's page views to a Billion if possible by end of next year. Keeping personal/private non-Conservapedia stuff of the Wiki and focusing on contributing articles on our areas of interest/strength would be the best way to do this imo. If another user told you something private in an email, it really doesn't belong on Conservapedia. God Bless. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 17:47, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

I've lost three whole days of work this week because of trolling; I was trying to use the lull in the Ukraine war to begin the Niger & Armenia fronts, and cover the India-Canada dispute. Readers need background information in articles as these stories gain prominence and get distorted in MSM. But an editor who refuses to take the Cooperative Editing pledge won't let me get anything done. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:51, September 23, 2023 (EDT)

The attacks by a Conservapedia Admin on a current Admin needs to stop completely and if he persists there need to be consequences

Moved to: Conservapedia:User complaints

Delete request

Can you please delete this file: User:Conservative/XYZ. Thank you. Conservative (talk) 19:36, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, the Apostle Paul taught: "Do not be deceived:‘Bad company ruins good morals.’" (1 Corinthians 15:33). Sometimes it is good to "excommunicate" someone out of your life. Conservative (talk) 19:56, September 24, 2023 (EDT)
Take a look at it first. It's his brilliant magnum opus [ Essay:Cutting off a gangrenous limb in your life can be quite freeing and enable you to do much more].
He's been out trolling other [ editors to help cut off a gangrenous limb in his life]. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:43, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Why modern Bible translations, and almost certainly codices Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, cannot be trusted

Some time ago, I figured out the puzzle to Revelation 19:20, which states, "And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." (KJV)

Note that the King James Bible says "a lake of fire" and not "the lake of fire" as modern translations use. (see comparison here) Since Revelation 20:10, talking of Satan's final demise and punishment, uses the term "the lake of fire," modern translations essentially are saying that the same lake of fire that the beast and false prophet are thrown into before the Millennium in Rev. 19:20 is the same lake of fire in verse 20:10.

Contrary to popular belief, the final lake of fire for the wicked will not be in another separate realm. The wicked are resurrected on the Earth, and fire rains down out of Heaven and devours them (Rev. 20:9), which means the final lake of fire at the end of time forms on the surface of the Earth. However, consider the problem with modern translations rendering verse 19:20 as "the lake of fire": by using the word "the" for lake of fire in both verses, this implies that the same lake of fire at Jesus's second return stays around for a thousand years, and Satan, along the wicked, get thrown there afterwards following Final Judgment. But if this is the case, then how can the lake of fire be on the Earth? Whether you believe that the Millennium is in Heaven under historicism (which holds that the Earth is desolate during the Millennium, not perpetually burning; I hold to this school of eschatological thought, just so you know) or that the Millennium is on Earth under standard theology, it makes no sense either way and results in a contradiction.

This is why the King James Bible is the only reliable version between Revelation verses 19:20 and 20:10: it distinguishes between two different lakes of fire, one that's generically referred to as "a lake of fire" which the beast and false prophet get thrown into before the Millennium, and a final lake of fire ("the lake of fire") that forms after the Millennium, following Final Judgment, when Satan and the wicked are destroyed once and for all.

Also, in the King James Bible for verse 20:10, there is no "they" added. It simply says, "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." The insertion of the word "they" in there, added by modern translations (even the NKJV, which distorts both verses and is not consistently faithful to the KJV), implies that the beast and false prophet have been burning for a thousand years during the Millennium and are still burning. On a side note, the KJV puts "are" in italics, indicating it's not in the original manuscripts. The Tyndale Bible, which almost completely concurs the KJV with most of what I emphasized on those two verses, accurately renders "were" instead of "are in 20:10.

Hopefully you find this information interesting, Andy. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 21:08, September 24, 2023 (EDT)

Request for unprotection of Stephen

Would you please be able to unprotect Stephen? It seems to have been protected back in 2010 for no apparent reason. There are a few edits I would like to make to that page (for instance, saying he was the second Christian martyr, because the article rightly points out that the first was Our Lord Jesus). MayGodBless (talk) 20:37, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Done. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:39, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

An indication that Evangelist Mark was Jewish

Hi Andy, upon extra reconsideration and analysis, I think the usage of the term "Herodians" in the Gospel of Mark actually proves that its author was a Jew. Simply put, using Occam's razor, it makes sense that the derogatory reference towards one specific sect of Judaism that plunged into apostasy (since "the Herodians" were Hellenistic Jews) exemplifies a manifestation of intra-Jewish tension where Mark indirectly asserts his own Jewish background and personal adherence to Jewry by excoriating the "traitor" faction(s), IOWs establishing Christianity as the true sect of Judaism and not the other factions (Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, etc.). Any cultural renegade within just about any ethnic background can affirm this inherent sentiment, me included.

If Mark was a Roman Gentile, why would he go to lengths to single out one particular Jewish sect to castigate, if he supposedly, based off your hypothesis, didn't care as much about Jewish culture compared to, say, Matthew? If Mark was a Gentile and cared about Judaism and Jewry less than other New Testament authors did, this occurrence would be harder to explain. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 21:04, September 28, 2023 (EDT)

I don't see anything religious about the term "Herodians", which plainly appears to be a blunt, pejorative reference to those who followed or even respected Herod. The term seems comparable to the "Clintonista", which is explained here.
But thanks for your interesting point about Herodians!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:03, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, no problem; while it's possible that the thought process of an early gentile Roman Christian could likewise creatively conjure up such a clever pejorative, my argument more or less rests on an implied premise that the circumstantial application is better explained as the outgrowth of a devout Jewish-Christian perspective. This is my general impression on the expressed "Jewishness" of the New Testament authors:
  • Matthew places a strong emphasis on the Jewish origins of Jesus and His teachings from the very first verse; while verse 27:25 serves as a harsh rebuke of the Judean crowd roused up into inciting the crucifixion, his Gospel account broadly encapsulates the Jewish foundation of the Christian faith
  • Mark's Jewishness (which, of course, assumes that he was a Jew after all, which I'm about 90% certain though not absolutely sure, seeing your arguments to the contrary) is exemplified differently, more bluntly "reclaiming Judaism from the Judeans" by denouncing the ultra-Hellenized "Herodians"; if one trusts the KJV as reliable and believes that verse 15:28 belongs, then a case for him being a Jew is much easier to substantiate
  • Luke, while likely not a Jew, notably emphasizes the disciples' adherence to keeping the Sabbath (Luke 23:56)
  • John likewise establishes that Christianity is the true outgrowth of Judaism and not the other Judean sects; what is commonly translated as "the Jews" almost certainly means "the Judeans" in his Gospel account, which is filled with mentions of Jewish feasts and described by some Jews as "the most Jewish out of the four"; and since the early church tradition that the same Apostle John wrote the Johannine Gospel and the Book of Revelation, that indicates that he was indeed a devout Jew
  • Paul almost certainly understood Judaism better than any of his contemporaries, and his Epistles are written with clear indications that he considers himself a devout Jew (2 Corinthians 11:22, Philippians 3:4–5) when addressing to gentile audiences, emphasizing faith in Christ Jesus as the true completion of "Jewishness" (Romans 2:28–29)
  • both Peter and Jude in their Epistles echo the essence of traditional Jewish apocalyptic literature
  • James in his Epistle describes the church as the "twelve tribes of Israel" (James 1:1)
LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 13:42, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
Personally, I think this encapsulates my emphasis well:
And Jesus answered and said, Verily I say unto you, There is no man that hath left house, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my sake, and the gospel's, but he shall receive an hundredfold now in this time, houses, and brethren, and sisters, and mothers, and children, and lands, with persecutions; and in the world to come eternal life.

—Mark 10:29–30

Converts to Christianity, who, say, grew up in Eastern cultures (myself, for example), often end up differing in outlook on life and moral values greatly because they see biblical principles as morally superior to the backwards dogmas they grew up instilled upon by their parents. In essence, those who understand "both worlds" have a complex perspective that presumably most out there who've held the same cultural mindset throughout their life would find difficult to grasp. And in those Eastern cultures, similar to Judaism 2,000 years ago, there are caste-like hierarchical norms set in place which discriminate in some way, for example in East Asian culture often on the basis of age. And I suppose it would be fair to say that some converts from those ethnocultural backgrounds to Christianity, from a new standpoint of biblical values, see (and validly so) their newly shaped mindset as much more compassionate towards the "lower" grades of their ethnocultural group than their older generational counterparts of "tradition adherents" to be. Especially when it comes to women's rights, notably, it is Christianity that liberates women from the condescending attitudes present in the most backwards elements of atheistic, godless East Asian cultures I for one, have grown up experiencing and can largely attest to. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 13:59, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
The names Mark, Luke, and John are not Jewish names, and they appear nowhere in the Old Testament. Their writings in the New Testament are not Jewish as Matthew's is.
Christianity is good for women but so are some other religions in their own ways. Atheism is terrible towards women, in contrast. Christianity is particularly good in rejecting mistreatment of the less fortunate in society.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 15:02, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, biblical Jewish-Christian values emphasize uplifting women in a way that respects traditional femininity which is under attack by modern-day "feminism." Women who are virtuous and refrain from the vulgarity of degenerate neo-Marxist culture seem to be unfortunately in decline nowadays.
"Mark" is not a Semitic name, though "John" is, however. The other "John" in the New Testament, John the Baptist, was a Jew born to devout Jews. Likewise, John the Apostle clearly was a Galilean Jew like Peter, since the sons of Zebedee were fishing partners of Simon and Andrew. (Luke 5:10) (and while "John" may not be entirely rooted in Jewish linguistics, the name is known in their dialect as "Yochanan"; Messianic Jewish Bibles, for example, use the deanglicized, Hebrew-transliterated "Yochanan" instead of "John") And the only speculation of Luke possibly being Jewish comes from the preface to a book suggesting Lukan authorship of Hebrews; I'm skeptical of either points concerning Luke, who most likely was a Gentile.
And I suppose the question of whether Mark was Jewish boils down to whether Evangelist Mark was the same individual as John Mark in the Acts of the Apostles. I believe the early church record solidly states that they were the same person; if you disagree, Andy, what evidence can you point to that disproves an authorship assertion concurred by the majority of the ECFs? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 15:14, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
John's Gospel account is "not Jewish as Matthew's is"? I strongly differ on this. If you take into consideration all the Jewish feasts John records, his Gospel can be designated more Jewish than Matthew's, and his emphasis on personal connections within the early Jewish sect which Christianity sprang from is noteworthy. (John 4:45) And to add on to the fact that John was a fishing partner of Peter and Andrew—remember that Peter had to receive a vision (Acts 10:9–16) to understand that Jews should not discriminate against gentiles, and even then was stuck in his old ways until Paul's rebuke. (Galatians 2:11–14) With this in mind, it would be illogical to assume that the sons of Zebedee were gentiles, as then Peter would've considered them "unclean" and highly unlikely to fish alongside them in their youthful years. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 15:28, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
Also, if I'm correct in my speculation here, I presume one major reason you personally refuse to accept Johannine authorship of Revelation is because the book belongs to the category of Jewish apocalyptic literature, while you consider the Apostle John to have been a gentile and thus couldn't have understood such nuanced depths of Old Testament Scripture? —LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 22:03, September 29, 2023 (EDT)
I respectfully disagree. "John" is not a Jewish name, and is nowhere mentioned in the Old Testament. The Book of Revelation may not have been written by John the Apostle, and rarely quotes the Old Testament anyway. Some find similarities between the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation, but those are debatable. I think the Gospel of John has almost no quotations of the Old Testament.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:50, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Okay, I see where you're coming from. However, I'd strongly contend that there are countless allusions in Revelation to bits and pieces of the Old Testament, even if not whole verses; the underlying importance is thematic connections. For example:
  • the seven trumpets of Joshua 6 appear to be a typology for the seven trumpets of Revelation: the blowing of all seven trumpets is a declaration of impending executive judgment upon the wicked; in Joshua, it was pronounced against one particular group of unrepentant gentiles, where Rahab the harlot and her family were brought out into safety when everyone else was slain; at Christ's Second Return, the redeemed will be raptured into safety as the remaining wicked are slain with the sword proceeding out of the Lamb's mouth (Rev. 19:21)
  • the description of "eagles' wings" in Exodus 19:4 serves as a typology for Revelation 12:14: the same "eagles' wings" that saved literal Israel in Old Testament times later saves spiritual Israel in the New Testament era
LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 01:12, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
And to sort of reemphasize and expand upon an earlier point, the fact alone that Mark and John quotes the Old Testament less doesn't automatically indicate they were non-Jews, because the "Jewishness" of their Gospels is simply expressed in a different, how should I put it, format. The complexities of early Jewish-Christian outlooks clearly transcended beyond the depths of just about any modern-day thought, and the outgrowth of those ancient intra-Jewish disputes shouldn't be interpreted in a one-dimensional fashion as standard modern dogmas go. —LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 12:25, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

Sun Tzu and Douglas Mac Arthur

I have a history of contributing to the Sun Tzu related articles and I have made them better and they have about 20,000 and 6,000 page views respectively. Also, I am a fan of Douglas MacArthur.

I am going to contribute to those articles.

And I never said I would not contribute to history articles for a period of time. I like history. And so do many of our readers.

For example, here are the page view counts of a few of my history articles:

So I don't see why I shouldn't create or update my history articles. It makes no sense because one of the big things people go to encyclopedias for is history articles. Conservative (talk) 23:58, September 29, 2023 (EDT)

History, yes. Fake history, no. For example, that George Soros did not fund many of his sources in his Geopolitical Essays, or that Vladimir Putin was spewing Russian propaganda when Putin said the SMO was to denazify Ukraine.
Look at our Geopolitics article: it has not been edited since 2013 and I have never edited it; it reads:
Geopolitics is an noun meaning:[1]
  1. the study or the application of the influence of political and economic geography on the politics, national power, foreign policy, etc., of a state.
  2. the combination of geographic and political factors influencing or delineating a country or region.
  3. a national policy based on the interrelation of politics and geography.
  4. a Nazi doctrine that a combination of political, geographic, historical, racial, and economic factors substantiated Germany's right to expand its borders and control various strategic land masses and natural resources."
Recently I was accused of personal attacks for merely citing the flaws in User:Conservative's_essays#Geopolitics series which draw heavily on inferences from #4 in the above list. He has been warned dozens of times over the past year and a half about that specific problem, and has either reverted or deleted the warnings, complained to Andy, and gone on whispering/gossip campaigns against me. His research on those subjects is sloppy and faulty, and in my opinion, is not motivated by a desire to educate conservative students. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:29, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
NATO & EU expansion into Ukraine is the same program of Lebensraum and the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. He has demonstrated no qualification to write on this subject. Rather, he has used Conservapedia Essay space to attack his own personal "enemies", as he puts it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:44, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
There is nothing I put in the Sun Tzu articles or Douglas MacArthur article that is not historical. I have nothing further to say about this matter. Conservative (talk) 07:18, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
It is your Geopolitical Essays. They are nothing but neo-Nazi crap. I have nothing further to say about this matter. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Add this to your Geopolitical series: Exporting Hate - American White Supremacists and Far Right Militants Fighting For the Kiev Regime in Ukraine. 11:46, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

You falsely and redundantly calling people white supremacists, Nazis and Russophobes is trolling. Simon Wiesenthal is a real Nazi hunter. You are not. And Vladimir Putin is not the fourth person of the Godhead. He is just a man. Conservative (talk) 13:13, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

You broke your pledge to cease trolling. You are back to your Sun Tsu psyop against you imaginary "enemies". Just drop it. I embarrassed you one year into the SMO by highlighting your trolling comment on April 15, 2022, and you've been on a relentless jihad, spewing neo-Nazi agitprop ever since. Just drop it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:40, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Wow, so Conservative has been a globalist-shilling, neo–National Socialist backing, Islamofascistic jihadist this whole time, eh? What astounding new revelations I can't believe I didn't know this whole time. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
At best, the content is jingoism, at worst neo-nazi propaganda. Due to the way he's handled this matter for 19 months, there's little good will. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
trolling comment
And the veneration of Putin as the fourth member of the godhead who leads the superior Soviet Russian Nation into conquering the pansy liberal West into subjugation isn't jingoism? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative had no cause to delete World Naval Powers without discussion after my good faith contributions. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:36, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Everything you need to know about User:Conservative's naiveté in these issues on geopolitics he posted right here on February 27, 2022:
Why Russia invaded Ukraine. Putin underestimated Ukrainian nationalism.
This was posted on MPR talk 3 days after the start of the SMO. Vladimir Putin had made it clear the purpose was to de-nazify militant Ukrainian Nationalists. Yet User:Conservative made it clear his only source of information was the globalist mainstream media propaganda network (just as he had done with "coronavirus comes from eating bats").
If Putin "underestimated" Ukrainian nationalism, Putin would have had to underestimate the Ukrainian nazis. Yet it took another two months senselessly arguing with User:Conservative whether Nazis existed in Ukraine (in doing so, it become obvious User:Conservative did not know what Nazism, or a Nazi, was). The information about nazis in Ukraine was easily available to him from numerous mainstream sources published years in advance, but he chose to ignore it.
Then, to refute me in his pointless arguments, User:Conservative turned to numerous globalist and Soros-funded think tanks for "scholarly" rebuttals in his neocon-inspired Geopolitical Essay series. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:34, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
trolling comment
Did you know that the Johannine Comma actually reads: "And there are four that bear record in Heaven: the Father, the Word, the Holy Ghost, and Vladimir Putin: and these four are one. And there are four that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, the blood, and the Putin: and these four agree in one." (1 Putin "John" 5:7–8) This was discovered in the recently unearthed Codex Robsmithicus (abbreviation: Codex RS), which clearly is more reliable than any other manuscript of the New Putinist- er, I mean, Testament. —LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 13:20, September 30, 2023 (EDT)


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Andy, he's trolling again on subjects he knows nothing about. [5][6]

RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:12, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

Yep, he's trolling again. He's using deletion to hide his glaring errors rather than engaging in discussion. I've wasted one full hour this morning already with this nonsense. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:32, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

The Military history article was bland with no pictures in it. I put some pictures in the article.
I tried to create a few navy articles, but cooperative editing with RobSmith appeared to be impossible so I moved on. Conservative (talk) 11:35, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Why did you delete the talk page here: Talk:World naval powers? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:37, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Because there is no point in having a talk page with no World naval powers article. I tried to do cooperative editing with you, but it didn't work out. So I moved on. But feel free to create your own World naval powers article without me. Conservative (talk) 11:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Now you're being redundant, which is trolling. Deleting the talk page without answering good faith questions was incivil conduct. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:48, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, over the past month I have realized that it is Why-Oh-You that is completely and utterly mentally incompetent with regard to the NATO war in Ukraine. You have been wrong about the war at every turn. A year ago, you said at Talk:Main Page/Archive index/222#Why are the referendums being held now that after Russia annexes Donetsk firing a shell will result in a nuke. You have now been proved wrong how many times? Once for every shell fired. The Biden junta has been arming the Ukonazis for a year and a half, and your disinformation has cost valuable lives. It is okay to admit you are in over your head and have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop before you embarrass yourself further. It is completely okay to be mentally incompetent in areas; except for one man we all are. You just need to realize that by misinforming voters, you are actively causing people to turn around and support additional funding for the NATO war in Ukraine. I am praying to the Lord that you realize this and stop before more harm is caused. Please, I beg you. MayGodBless (talk) 00:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
If I could make sense out of what you are saying, I could respond. But feel free to troll some more. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:34, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, I think I get now; you're talking about all the Red Lines NATO/Ukraine has crossed.
You need to be specific in your arguments, and refrain from trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:37, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, I truly want to help you. You have said so many things are Red Lines, but they never come to pass. MayGodBless (talk) 00:40, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
That's a mystery. If you think the Russians are bluffing, go ahead. You sound like Blinken and Biden. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
I do not think the Russians are bluffing. I think you misunderstand what their Red Lines are. MayGodBless (talk) 00:53, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
There are only two possibilities. Either a red line was crossed, in which case they were bluffing. Or a red line was not crossed, and you simply misunderstand what their red lines are. MayGodBless (talk) 00:55, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

MayGodBless wrote: "You have been wrong about the war at every turn. A year ago, you said at Talk:Main Page/Archive index/222#Why are the referendums being held now that after Russia annexes Donetsk firing a shell will result in a nuke. You have now been proved wrong how many times? Once for every shell fired."

In my essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]], I point out that the data indicates that individuals who keep track of their political forecasting in terms of the times that they are wrong vs. the times they are right, tend to achieve superior results. Thanks for helping RobSmith better track the times he has been wrong. Conservative (talk) 09:48, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Your entire defense and promotion of the Liberal World Order in your Geopolitical essays has collapsed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:29, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Question about the founders of the modern conservative movement

I saw you contributing to the Phyllis Schlafly article. It says she was one of the founders of the modern conservative movement.

Who were the other key founders of the modern conservative movement in your estimation? Conservative (talk) 00:13, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

I'd refer to the movement conservative entry for a list of others. The first, Edmund Burke, is not quite modern.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 00:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
I loved the CNN show Crossfire which was a debate show that Patrick Buchanan and Robert Novak were on. Buchanan was especially good on the show. Conservative (talk) 00:55, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
I would like to see you or someone else create a Modern conservative movement article. I would suggest that the article not be an orphan article by having the article be linked to from our conservative article, some of the founders of the modern conservative movement and our New Deal article (In part, the modern conservative movement was a reaction to the New Deal). Conservative (talk) 07:06, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

The Evangelist Mark and the Sabbath

Hi again, Andy, and happy Sabbath. Speaking of the topic, I of course remember that you've stated, at least twice, that Mark was more or less "bluntly critical" of the Sabbath in Mark 2:27. So, if he was a non-Jew and critic of Sabbath observance, that more or less would imply he promulgated Sunday observance in the Christian church.

However, the testimonial evidence of the early church indicates otherwise. The Coptic Orthodox Church venerates him (identified as John Mark) as their founder; rejection of the seventh-day Sabbath in the Coptic Church was reportedly at a "late date." Of course, if they had to reject the Sabbath much later, that means they kept it until then. The two earliest centers of Christianity to plunge into first-day worship were Rome and Alexandria; a 5th-century historian put it this way:

For although almost all churches throughout the world celebrate the sacred mysteries on the Sabbath of every week, yet the Christians of Alexandria and at Rome, on account of some ancient tradition, have ceased to do this.

—Socrates Scholasticus

Just as an FYI, all the "earliest and most reliable manuscripts" are linked to those same cities: Rome and Alexandria... anyways: regarding St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church, let's connect the dots: since we know that they trace apostolic lineage to St. John Mark the Evangelist and kept the seventh-day Bible Sabbath faithfully for several centuries until eventual pagan, Constantine-influenced subversion into first-day observance at a relative "late date," that means they were taught by none other than the Evangelist Mark to keep the seventh-day Sabbath. I know you may disagree with this analysis, but hopefully it's interesting to you nonetheless. —LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 12:09, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

Your info is very interesting, LT. Thank you! But Mark's rejection of the Jewish Sabbath does not imply that he wanted a 7th-day Sabbath. The stronger implication is that he rejected the concept of a Sabbath, period, as most Gentiles would have.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:33, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
P.S. I think your history of Sabbath-observance in Alexandria is fascinating but difficult to draw conclusions from.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:36, September 30, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, awesome to hear that you appreciate my points above, Andy! When I first read the New Testament last year, I thought that Mark was just a shorter version of Matthew, but upon seeing your insights, my mind was truly opened in a way it wasn't before. I think in the case of Mark 2:27 as it concerns Mark's view of the Sabbath, it always helps to observe the full context once again:
And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him? And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

—Mark 2:24–28

Now, first of all, Mark was just quoting Jesus. Note that He said "for man," not "for the Jews"; the Sabbath was established at creation (Genesis 2:2–3, Exodus 20:11), long before the Jews (descendants of Noah's son Shem, and hence part of the broad ethnic "Semite" group) ever existed. IOWs, the term "Jewish Sabbath," while convenient to summarize its general association with Judaism, isn't entirely precise.
Remember, the Pharisees turned the Sabbath, a great blessing for humanity, into a legalized burden for Jews. Why does Jesus add, "the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath"? Because the Judean leaders acted as if they, not God, determined how to properly keep the Sabbath, usurping the authority of the very Son of God who established it! So Christ's famous phrase "the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" was not to downgrade the Sabbath's objective importance, but to emphasize it as a blessing not to be rendered a legalized burden whereby a few entitled bureaucrats use decrees to ruin others' lives. And since the Gospel of Mark bluntly emphasizes, in more or less your style of phrasing, "conservative populism" against the liberal elites, verses 2:27–28 was to assert Jesus as the ultimate authority on what it meant to keep the Sabbath.
Okay, concerning the broad history of Sabbath and Sunday observance, I don't want to implode your head with too much information at once, so I'll summarize what I can with limited points in the meantime: the early apostolic churches and Apostolic Fathers started off in Sabbath observance. Now, some may ask, "what about the the term Lord's day in the Didache and Revelation 1:10?" The Lord's Day until the late second century did not yet refer to Sunday, and therefore referred to the Sabbath.
And a valid question arises: how can I, for one, know with great certainty that the Lord's Day initially was in reference to the Sabbath? Because the first notable proponent of Sunday observance, Justin Martyr (influenced by Alexandrian thought, by the way), from my knowledge (and if I happen to be wrong here, do correct me), never referred to the first day of the week as the "Lord's Day"! If the apostolic churches already observed Sunday as the "Lord's Day" since New Testament times, it would be utterly bizarre why an open proponent of first-day observance never uses that term in reference to the first day of the week.
Another argument for Sunday observance is that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, and often implied that this basis was supposedly used by the early church proponents of first-day worship. Of course, Justin Martyr's argument for Sunday worship was connected to the circumcision of newborns in the Old Testament on the eighth day. So when you put all the pieces together in both cases, concerning the Lord's Day and Resurrection arguments, Justin's own form of first-day worship advocacy ends up being a testimony against the common arguments presented by modern defenders of Sunday observance! —LT Rev. 22:13 Saturday, 18:08, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

Please delete this page please

Please delete this page please: User:Conservative/Political news and articles. Conservative (talk) 18:34, September 30, 2023 (EDT)

The return of Karajou soon? If so, this is awesome!

I just noticed this. This is awesome!

People of Conservapedia I have returned. The hour of your redemption from China/Russia cheerleading is here. USA! USA! USA!

"Though they may hate me, I will force them to esteem me as well." - John Paul Jones

Key point: Perhaps, Karajou noticed User: RobSmith reverting my edit saying the U.S. Navy is the most powerful navy in the world. This may have caused him to consider returning to Conservapedia. See RobSmith's EDIT of the article World naval powers.

I Karajou's return occurs soon. Conservative (talk) 00:17, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Key point: He's trolling again, Andy. User:Conservative refused discussion on what measure defines "the most powerful Navy", [7] fleet size or nuclear capability (China already has a larger fleet size). Then he Deleted the page without discussion. He only responded after I recreated the page. Look at the timestamps. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Professor John Joseph Mearsheimer believes in balance of power politics. Is the return of Karajou nigh? Conservapedia could use some balancing. Conservative (talk) 00:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
No RobSmith. You reverted me once I put the U.S. Navy seal back into the article. You definitely didn't like that. Well, I am sure Karajou disagrees! Conservative (talk) 00:32, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
The US Navy seal did not belong in a subheading about the 10 largest navies in the world. (A) It is not the largest by fleet size; (2) the list was in error anyway cause the Japanese navy is bigger than Russia's.
You refused discussion and Deleted the page and its talk page. Period. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:40, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
It was nothing but jingoism, false, and misleading (without proper discussion). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Which country has the most aircraft carriers? I'll give you a hint: it is the same country that has the most nuclear subs. MayGodBless (talk) 00:49, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
So the score is 64 to 58. But Russia builds them for 1/3 the cost. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
That is relevant only for what the future capacities will be. A ship is a ship, regardless of if I spent $100 or $1,000 buying them. MayGodBless (talk) 01:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Carriers are vulnerable to hypersonics. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Everything is vulnerable to hypersonics. MayGodBless (talk) 00:57, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Bingo. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
It's a whole new ballgame - which will influence global politics for the next 30 years.
Now, the US can continue building air carriers at the cost of billions - that are destroyed in 10 minutes in combat like the rest of the junk they sent to Ukraine - but that should ultimately be a decision made by the taxpayers, not the idiots in the Deep state who got us into this mess. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:06, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
A supercarrier is defenseless - it will not make it to Hawaii from San Diego before being taken out by a Chinese hypersonic. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Fleet size is a terrible measure. Would you rather have a modern destroyer or 1,000 16th-century pirate ships? MayGodBless (talk) 00:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] I don't understand why RobSmith feels the need to complain to Andy when he can just pray the following to the fourth member of the Godhead he so reveres in absolute veneration: "Our ☭Putin☭ which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy glorious Communist paradise come, workers of the world unite!" (Levi-Putin 6:9–10) —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 00:35, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
It's Andy's decision. If he wants all this incivility and trolling each other among Admin & editors, that's his decision. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:45, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia needs another America first and very pro-capitalism admin. Come back soon Karajou!

Key quotes of RobSmith:

IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)

It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT)

I hope Karajou returns soon. Conservative (talk) 05:58, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Andy's not dumb, he knows who Knox, Stimson & Donovon were, Stalinist collaborators. They weren't Nazi sympathizers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:41, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

Now that a former Admin is back, I feel more at liberty to discuss geopolitics at Conservapedia. And....

Although I am amping up my pursuits outside of politics, now that Karajou is back, I feel more at liberty to discuss geopolitics at the website. After all, who wants to have unpleasant and inane discussions with a rude man who unjustly calls every Tom, Dick and Harry Nazis and incessantly spouts Russian propaganda rather than objective analysis.

However, given my focus on areas outside of geopolitics in terms of my goals and my desire to not provide further commentary until the dust settles in terms of geopolitics, I still don't plan on commenting on geopolitics until around 2030 or later (Unless of course, China sees a big economic collapse instead of a decline over time in the upcoming years).

But I am going to enjoy posting some content about geopolitics at that time. I suspect that a certain China/Russia cheerleader will have to eat some crow or perform some significant mental gymnastics or remain silent. Conservative (talk) 08:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)

This is just for you: Zerohedge: European Union Leadership Announced New Lebensraum Expansion Policy.
Get used to the new vocabulary, dialogue, and rhetoric - it's gone mainstream. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 08:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)
Putin is not a strategic thinker (See: [[Essay: There is no evidence that Vladimir Putin plays chess]]).
There is a Newtonian aspect to politics/geopolitics - namely, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So we see Europe expanding its energy options; NATO expanding, EU is preparing for a potential wave of expansion; NATO increasing its military budget, etc.
And more importantly, Russian demography has long been an existential issue to Vladimir Putin. In 2021, he declared “saving the people of Russia is our top national priority".[8] And this war is making Russia's demographic crisis worse (See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]).
As far as Russia's long game on the geopolitics chess board, Putin's strategic thinking is terrible because he is not thinking enough moves ahead. Conservative (talk) 13:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Well, long-term prospects aren't going well for Ukraine anyways. It's the thesis/antithesis game at play here: create the war and misery to incite right-wing populist backlash. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

LT, the Russian demographer Salavat Abylkalikov says the main consequences of Russia's demographic crisis will be the following:

"According to the average version of the UN forecast, Russia's population by 2050 may be about 133.4 million people, which is 14th in the world and below countries such as Egypt, the Philippines, and Mexico. But if Russia goes not according to the average, but according to the low option that is quite likely at the present time, then with a population of 123.2 million people we will drop to 16th place and will already be neighbors with Tanzania and Vietnam. Thus, the price of switching to the low scenario could be -10 million people, as well as a decrease in the place in the top countries in terms of population. Moreover, the low version of the UN forecast did not include too low or even negative migration growth.
"A smaller population means a country's lower economic potential, a shrinking domestic market, worsening demographic problems and an aging population, as well as a decrease in the country's geopolitical power. The population size still correlates with the weight in international relations, the ability to promote their interests on the world stage. And the declining population for the largest country in the world may cause some neighbors on the continent, especially the eastern ones, to be tempted to solve their internal growing problems by some external adventures. But will Russia find anyone and how to fight back, will there be allies?"[9]

Question: Is Putin a master of the geopolitics chessboard? Nyet! Conservative (talk) 14:01, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

You got Nazigate wrapped around your neck, and you keep preaching the Haushofer School of Realism. It's not like I didn't say 'told you so'. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
The Nazi party was the gay rights movement of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s until it was stamped out by Western Christian culture. It re-emerged on the so-called "left" to claim it was somehow a victim of Nazism instead of one of its perps. User:Conservative has fallen right into line with Western fascism and the LGBT+ movement. User:Conservative denies Eastern Christendom from defending itself from Western, secular, globalist attacks. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:13, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
So you're saying Conservative is really a fascist-shilling, Nazi-supporting, globalist-entrenched, and now homosexual-backing anti-Orthodox jihadist bigot? Wow, what astounding new revelations that carry no factual substantiation. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:22, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Click the links at Nazigate and Haushofer School of Realism. What more factual evidence do you want added to that text? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:36, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Your blather is difficult to make sense of, and I have better usages for my critical thinking skills than trying to sort through the conglomerate hegemony of monotonous paradialectic deception you commonly spout. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:41, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
So you're too lazy to think and read. No wonder you haven't signed up at Team CP. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:55, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
War always comes from the West and peace from the East.

—Robert Fico, Who is Robert Fico?. Washington Post, Sept 29 2023.

I hereby present all my critics the prestigious NATO/LGBT award for heroic service in the global war on Putinism.
[EC] Conservative, there is no way the world as we know it is lasting until 2050. By then, the Millennium would almost certainly have already begun, because there are good reasons to believe Jesus will return in 2027. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith is not a master of politics. He messed around with my World naval powers article which may have caused the ire of Ex-Navy man Karajou which might have caused him to come back to Conservapedia. The Navy's motto is "Honor, courage and commitment". Let's hope that Karajou starts creating content and becomes a Conservapedia admin again. Commitment! Hooyah! Conservative (talk) 14:22, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Yep, agreed. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 14:23, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Question: Was my World naval powers article bait to cause RobSmith to disrespect the U.S. Navy and thus prompt Karajou to come back to Conservapedia or was it merely unplanned serendipity? User: Conservative is so inscrutable, Conservapedia's readership may never know the answer to this question!
"Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible as Heaven and Earth, unending as the flow of rivers and streams; like the sun and moon, they end but to begin anew; like the four seasons, they pass away to return once more." - Sun Tzu.
One thing I do know is that good chess players think several moves ahead and are not impulsive. Conservative (talk) 14:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, they're plotting an off-wiki cyberattack from your user page ("Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible as Heaven and Earth"). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:57, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, since when did you start one-upping Stacey Abrams to spout the craziest conspiracy theories? —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 15:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Need I remind RobSmith and Mr. Schafly that Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and Xi Jinping also have opposed homosexuality so that moral bar isn't exceedingly high - especially for societies that currently have a demographic crisis due to low fertility rates and people leaving their countries! See: Atheism and the suppression of homosexuality

And Xi Jinping's administration currently persecutes Christians.[10] Conservative (talk) 15:44, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

More of the Houshofer School. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:49, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, merely opposing one form of evil doesn't make one a good person. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 15:50, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, last time I checked Moses descended from Mount Sinai with 10 commandments and the Sermon on the Mount was big on morality too. What we have here is a classic case of the fallacy of exclusion. Conservative (talk) 15:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
When David Gerard was teaching you laws of logic in argument, you didn't pay close enough attention. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, I see: you, who accused Conservative and/or I in various times of being "in bed" with RationalWikians or "learning from their bad example," are now reproving him for not sufficiently listening to one of their goon leaders. Like I said iterated above, you're full of paradialectic deception. And I'll tell you something plain and clear: you think you're the center? You certainly are when it comes to hypocrisy, because I've just about never seen anyone embody the depths of double standards to the extent you have. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:00, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
a prophet is never welcome in his hometown.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RobSmith (talk)
Yes, RobSmith, you're indeed a prophet—a false one. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 16:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative, your buddy Bill Browder appears in this video. [11] (2,000 views in 31 minutes; I think we see a viral video in the making. It exposes who all spews globalist uniparty talking points). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:26, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
I tried to brand him a totalitarian but you insisted he was an honorable capitalist. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:34, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Please read: The anti-Christianity Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and Xi Jinping have opposed homosexuality so this isn't a very high moral bar for China and Russia to clear

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 16:57, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Without reading it, it certainly does. You're still espousing the Haushopfer School of Geopolitics. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:59, October 2, 2023 (EDT)
Search results for Haushofer School of Geopolitcs. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Random question

Hi Andy, just curious: do you have a solid understanding of thematic chiastic structures in the Bible? —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:12, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

Impressive! I had to look up the word "chasiatic". :) Recently, User: ConwayII caused me to look up the word "eejit".  :)
If you keep this up, soon you will be the William F. Buckley Jr. of Conservapedia with your vocabulary prowess! I recall Rush Limbaugh advertising a "Verbal Advantage" program on his popular conservative radio show. Conservative (talk)
Thanks, Conservative! I do like to use complex adjectives sometimes. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 13:45, October 2, 2023 (EDT)

A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith

Andy, I sent DavidB4 and you this email a few minutes ago:

Andy and DavidB4,

Less than a month ago, we had an "Articles for Deletion" vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted.

With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also.

Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content.


User: Conservative

I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. Conservative (talk) 04:29, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine. For brevities sake, the problem could be fixed by retitling the Essay.
There is nothing to fix. You are not the dictator of Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 07:29, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
  • Delete or Move to new Title. Innocent until proven guilty. We Americans are not going to throw our constitutional values away to promote xenophobia against an entire nation and people.
  • The title of this Essay promotes hate and bigotry against 150 million Russian people.
  • Even Wikipedia has enough sense not to jeopardize their reputation promoting xenophobic content. They do have a Mainspace article entitled, War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, while not pointing a finger at any one specific party in its title.
Essay:American war crimes in Iraq?
Essay:Police murder of Blacks? etc. The Title could be easily moved to "Essay: Alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 04:54, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

All the facts are above; below is just more trolling

RobSmith, if you have some essays that you want to write, then write them. I have asked you several times to write counter essays to my essays, but you failed to do so. Instead you want to whine, complain and create drama. Conservative (talk) 05:05, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Essays are not my genre. You've been told that before. Essay's are about opinion. I write historical narrative. It's quite different. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 05:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I have seen your historical narratives and I wasn't impressed. You purposefully put a falsehood in the Bill Browder article and in the Karen Dawisha article too which I documented (See the talk pages of those articles). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative|Conservative]]]] User talk:Conservative|(talk)]]

You know, me and a group of other editors from Wikipedia have been writing on Communism for almost two decades now. We focused on the untold stories, the historical questions that lingered, etc. Listening to you, LT, and Nishant, I almost think we either did too good a job, or were unbalanced in our perspective. When I hear you regurgitate as fact stuff I helped bring out that was unknown, considered fascist or conspiratorial just 20 years ago, it's kind of surprising. It was a hard fought battle for many many years to get the information out, but the internet finally made it possible. I guess not having a fascist threat at the time we were collecting research materials and writing narratives might have warped our perspectives a bit, but there's few of us left now who can tell the story from both the fascist and communist sides. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, and Dawisha is just a paid prostitute for global fascists. The difference between her and you is, she's getting paid. RobSGive Peace a Chance!
Global national syndicalists with a philosophy of Hegelian, neo-Gnostic actualism? Very interesting. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 08:50, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I hope you decide to change your behavior. I have done my best to convince you to do so. The ball is in your court now. Conservative (talk) 05:42, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

My geopolitics essays work is done until 2030. I put the icing on the cake of my geopolitics essays.

Now that I have finished putting the icing on the cake of my geopolitics essays by quoting RobSmith's #1 hero Douglas Mcgregor (Who RobSmith wanted to make Conservapedia's "Conservative of the year for 2022") agreeing with me about the financial/social wobbliness of China and its navy, I am going on a geopolitics essays sabattical until 2030.

Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video Why China's Navy is a JOKE: "China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that."[12] See: [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|Skepticism about China remaining a global power]]

I want the geopolitics dust to settle some more plus I want to pursue some other pursuits.

For example, here is what the pastor who RobSmith gossiped about wrote to me:

"Thank you, for inviting XXX to church yesterday. You made quite an impact on the congregation as several people were talking about who they might invite!
Sorry, I didn’t get to spend much time with XXX, but, perhaps if he comes again I can get to know him.
You provided a great example of what we all can do.

While RobSmith is gossiping and bearing false witness, I am doing the endeavoring to do the right thing. Conservative (talk) 05:23, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, so you admit to engaging in malicious editing. "The icing on the cake". Just as I said, Andy, he has no interest or understanding of geopolitics. He's just engaged in malicious editing and trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 05:39, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
No RobSmith. Colonel MacGregor and I have a greater understanding of geopolitics than you. Conservative (talk) 05:44, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
You have no understanding - better yet - regard, for the moral issues in play in war. You think it's a game with cheerleaders. That's sick, and it's sickening. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:41, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
You are the one who wishes to deny that there are [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine|Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. Conservative (talk) 07:20, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, according to RobSmith, Putin did nothing wrong, the Russian side of the war absolutely has no significant presence of neo-Nazi supporters, and now Communism is good, apparently. He's gone off the deep end. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 08:52, October 3, 2023 (EDT)
No. According to Article 51 of the UN Charter. What law supersedes this? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:27, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Can you explain to me how Article 51 gives Putin the right to commit war crimes? MayGodBless (talk) 13:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Can you explain how Article 51 gives NATO the right to commit war crimes, or what law supersedes the UN Charter? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:24, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Since the UN Charter, which all party member states agreed to, the United States arrogated to itself the role of maker and enforcer of the rules based order, which no one outside the collective West agreed to. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:29, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
I asked first, so please answer the question. But I will still answer yours: NATO cannot and should not commit war crimes. War crimes have been committed by both sides in this conflict. Both sides should be condemned. MayGodBless (talk) 15:10, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
NATO first committed war crimes in the Kosovo war, then again in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It threw the UN Charter, which all parties had agreed to, in the trash more than 20 years ago in favor of its diktats of what international law is. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
The big screw up here in recent times is when the Obama administration and Hillary took the bait with UN Security Council Resolution for NATO intervention in the Libyan war, over Russia & China abstentions. Two of the five permanent Security Council members gave the collective West enough rope to hang themselves. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Woah woah woah. "NATO first committed war crimes"? So war crimes are okay as long as you are not the first one to commit them?? MayGodBless (talk) 21:31, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
NATO is not a defensive alliance, as the NATO war of aggression against Serbia proves. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:45, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Since 1991, the United States has committed 215 foreign interventions, per the Congressional Research Service (odd considering there are only 195 member states of the UN). The Russian Federation has committed only 4. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:49, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
That has exactly zero to do with what I just said. Answer the question: are war crimes okay if someone else did it first? MayGodBless (talk) 21:51, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Of course not. It is the US that has violated international law and international norms of conduct. Brown University estimates the US has killed more than 4.5 million people in wars since 9/11. A boon for the MIC, but the American people will be held to account. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:57, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
The Unted States has been illegally - even under US law - occupying significant territory of Syria for almost a decade. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
I agree that the US has been illegally occupying Syria for almost a decade. Can we also agree that both the Russians and the Ukrainians have committed war crimes in Ukraine since February 2022? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MayGodBless (talk)
Ukraine and NATO since 2014; Ukraine, NATO, and Russia since 2022. Now there are two different types of war crimes - those that happen on orders from higher up the chain of command, and those that occur on the ground in a moment of heat and emotion by combatants without orders or instructions from their commanders. I dare say you'd be hard pressed to prove war crimes committed by the Russian Federation from the top, on the other hand, beginning with the illegal Maidan coup in 2014, and following through with events like the Bucha massacre planned by MI6, Western terrorist attacks on the Crimean bridge and Nordstream pipeline, the targeting of schools and hospitals, etc, have been almost exclusively on the NATO/Ukraine side. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:11, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Then we have to deal with the subject of cross border assassination of civilian non-combatants which Ukraine has admitted too. Are they war crimes or acts of terrorism? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:20, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
It is a war crime what Biden, Sullivan, Milley and Zelensky have committed - sending men to their death in what they know is a lost cause. Gen Zaluzhnyi could perhaps escape the hangman's rope for registering protests, but he still would be condemned to some hard time. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:53, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
They are both – war crime and terrorism are not distinct concepts. War crimes are, well, crimes of war. Terrorism is violence to incite terror for a political reason. MayGodBless (talk) 23:40, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
And where is your evidence that the Bucha massacre was planned by MI6? Last time I checked, satellite imaging had proven it was the Russians. See the UN report: [13]. And the Human Rights Watch report: [14]. MayGodBless (talk) 23:40, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
That discussion is for the Bucca massacre or fake news page. We're getting off track here. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:58, October 7, 2023 (EDT)
And the US is far and away the most powerful member of the UN. Russia does not come close.
When the US was founded, the Constitution made clear that the capital would not be part of any state, and thus Washington, DC was created. When the UN was founded, the members unanimously approved putting its permanent seat of government in – you guessed it – the United States. MayGodBless (talk) 15:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
The US was just defeated on the battlefield, again. The US is the renegade party from what was previous international agreements to keep the peace and maintain international order. 16:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)RobSGive Peace a Chance!

I have no understanding of geopolitics? "We are not in a multipolar world." - International Relations and Security Analyst Mark Sleboda on Brian Berlectic's pro-Russia New Atlas YouTube channel. [15] See: [[Essay: The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?|The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?]]

This quote is from a video you posted on main page talk. So one of your own favorite sources debunks your claim that I don't understand geopolitics. It's also one additional piece of evidence that debunks your errant claim that we live in multipolar world. Checkmate, RobSmith! Conservative (talk) 04:02, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

Nowhere did I make the claim you allege. Your views are essentially jingoistic, and you never even heard the terms "unipolar", "bipolar", or "multipolar" until a few months ago when I introduced them to you. Since then, you made yourself an "expert" on the subject.
What we have here is an adult savant, a child diagnosed as an idiot who couldn't tie his shoelaces, but showed the ability to excel in certain areas (kinda like in the film Rainman). Due to his isolation as a child, he never learned proper social interaction with other people, and his tendency to personalize everything (for example, his ability to make 150k next year will help his pastor get married and increase Conservapedia's Google rankings). RobSGive Peace a Chance!
You did not introduce the terms unipolar, bipolar or multipolar to me. Just because you mentioned them at Conservapedia doesn't mean I pay attention to what you write at Conservapedia. There are plenty of sources of information besides you on the information superhighway and they are far more reliable.
In addition, you have stated at this website that you are at best a novice at psychology so your psychological diagnosis of someone whose childhood you are ignorant of is laughable. But it is less laughable that your high school girl like gossip. Conservative (talk) 09:01, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
If Conservative's mild assertions of American military strength superiority in objective terms is to be designated "jingoistic," how much more manifesting of chauvinistic jingoism is it to boast of Putin as the great (false) messiah who is to subjugate the "neoliberal fascist-globalist West"? Do you have any self-awareness remaining, RobSmith? —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 09:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
By the way, my atheism and bestiality article is ranked #1 for that term at Google and it has over 115,000 page views. That is pretty good for someone who at first thought the word bestiality was spelled "beastiality"!
Let's contrast this with RobSmith's flagship article NATO war in Ukraine which has under 75,000 views despite the fact that he has edited it quite a bit and it has over 380 footnotes. It must be his flagship article considering the fact that he insists the following: [[Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come]]. Of course, the SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2020 has no such significance as can be seen at: [[Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in geopolitics that will affect geopolitics for 30 years]].
Bingo. "my atheism and bestiality article is ranked #1 for that term at Google", sounds like Putin propaganda. I can picture some kid in Irkutsk or Outer Mongolia reading it and volunteering for the armed forces of the Russian Federation to take up arms against the invasion of Western cultural hegemony. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:46, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
And to my knowledge, none of RobSmith's articles at Conservapedia has over 7,000,000 page views at Conservapedia. The view counter for Conservapedia's atheism article is over 7,000,000 page views. Conservative (talk)

And speaking of people who can't tie their shoelaces, inferior thinkers often engage in hyperpartisan white hat vs. black hat type thinking. Superior thinking looks at the world more objectively, probabilistically and integrates divergent or seemingly contradictory views/possibilities. In addition, it often sees tradeoffs in various positions and sees the unintended consequences of various positions. For example, why isn't it plausible that Russia and Ukraine are BOTH corrupt and authoritarian in terms of their leadership? This certainly seems to be the case. Conservative (talk) 09:42, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

"unintended consequences" = doggie doo-doo. Perhaps we should list it at Newspeak? bet yet, at Dogwhistle: List of common dogwhistles . RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
By the way, Conservative, here's some more recent news to add to your [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]: Zelensky calls attack that killed 52 ‘absolute evil’LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 09:37, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Thanks LT. I appreciate your feedback and suggestion. Conservative (talk) 09:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Yep, no problem. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 18:06, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
I am a patient man. Much will be revealed by 2030 if Jesus should tarry. And I may update a few of my geopolitics essays every 5 years from 2030. Conservative (talk) 19:32, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

Question about conservative content

Hi Andy, since you're a top expert on conservative values, I'd be happy to get more of your input: what type of content here on Conservapedia would you think best exemplifies a promotion of conservatism? Currently I'm doing some edits here and there, mainly with creating/expanding a few pages that I will extensively link to from popular articles, to expose the connections between Leftism and racism, since I've done a considerable amount of history research to be able to prove these links.

For example, at the moment I'm expanding the Bull Connor article with information that's difficult to find elsewhere on the internet; any thoughts so far? I know you were skeptical of many of my mainspace contributions in the past, so it'd be helpful for me to know just exactly how to write, in your views at least, quality content for this conservative encyclopedia. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:02, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

My two cents: All your efforts get wiped away in your vocal justification for the NATO war in Ukraine and anti-Putinism. It's a retrenchment to the "Republicans and conservatives are Nazis" trope. Here, for the first time, you get to confront actual Nazis, and you slink away into the neocon globalist perspective. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:30, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
My man, you're literally the quisling cheering on Russian extraction of Lebensraum. ConwayIII (talk) 14:50, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
It can't be. Russians already live there. The Western/NATO push for lebensraum in Eastern Europe is failing again. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:56, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Even Medea Benjamin is explaining to her followers that not all Republicans are Nazis, and MTG is willing to take a stand with Code Pink against contemporary Nazism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
A sensitive man once used exactly the same excuse re. protecting German speakers in the Sudetenland, but please do feel free to keep going. ConwayIII (talk) 15:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, you always complain about how people interrupt discussions by "peeing all over the carpet". Please be consistent – is this a place ofdiscussion and freedom of speech, or a place of censorship? MayGodBless (talk) 15:16, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
MayGodBless, rules for thee, but not for me! How many people signed up for Team CP? Conservative (talk) 16:15, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Okay, pardon my interruption. Let Andy decide if he wants to throw in with the Nazi/LGBT movement, per User:Conservative, LT, and Conway. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:32, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservative has become the biggest pusher of Gleichschaltung#LGBTI_Gleichschaltung with his anti-Putin rhetoric. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:43, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, man. Let's all pipe down and let Andy ponder your deep & abiding love for Putin's Anschluss adventure. ConwayIII (talk) 17:30, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
It is the United States that threw out the rules of the established international order regarding acceptable means of changing international borders in Kosovo 25 years ago. Clinton returned us to Hitlerism, Might makes right, in the international arena. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:34, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Hahaha. Clinton was the sensitive type, too, eh? Great stuff, Captain. Let's all raise a glass for poor old Milošević dying in prison. ConwayIII (talk) 17:57, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Maybe you should read our Milosevic entry. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:59, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Well, if it's official, I'll have a redirect for First Black Hitler, please. ConwayIII (talk) 20:41, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, you said: "Hitler railing against Marxism, socialism" here. Until you acknowledge that Hitler was a socialist and that the Holocaust happened because the Nazis tried to create a "socialist utopia" by killing the Jews, you're a Holocaust denier. Now stop calling the rest of us Nazis—unlike you, we're not socialists. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 18:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
What the heck are you talking about now? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:59, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Go back and read a few CP discussion pages on Socialism and National Socialism from 2007. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:01, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
And this ain't rocket science: as long as you support the global fascist war on Putin, you're a Nazi. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:06, October 6, 2023 (EDT)
Afterward, you'll be remembered as a Nazi apologist or Nazi sympathizer. NATO has already lost on the battlefield. History is written by the victors. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:11, October 6, 2023 (EDT)

Nancy Mace

Hello Andy! I just wanted to let you know that I slightly changed your edit to U.S. House Speaker election, October 2023. Nancy Mace is certainly a never-Trumper, but even she did not vote for the sham impeachment. Source: [16] (you can use the "search" function for "Mace"). MayGodBless (talk) 21:41, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

Great correction!!! I was mistaken. You're absolutely right. Thank you!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:35, October 4, 2023 (EDT)

Do you know anything about Samuel Igra?

He was the author of the brilliant book Germany's National Vice which exposed, in his words, "homosexualism," as the driving force behind Nazism. Just thought you might be interested in this topic since you're an adamant opponent of the Homosexual Agenda (much as I am). —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 00:07, October 5, 2023 (EDT)

(cont.) Why I think the social conservative movement failed

Hi Andy, I'm exceedingly glad to hear that you're open-minded to consider my point further as it concerns the failure of the pro-life movement for decades to educate the youth into respecting the dignity of human life. Now, my theory here concerns a much broader, larger scale:

Let's suppose for a moment that a group of theocrats have long conspired to seize power in a country, nay, the whole world, to force the globe to bend to its strict religious decrees. However, there is a problem: in a Protestant Western society, citizens uphold separation of church and state, believing in religious freedom. How can the masses be manipulated into allowing a theocracy to take power?

The answer is very simple: induce cultural moral degeneracy into the Western society—let's say you first start off sounding mainstream, calling for increased "awareness" of "civil rights" problems, and exploit that to rabble-rouse one collective against another, endlessly assailing a scapegoat to fuel massive divisions, creating mobs upon mobs who in their demand for supposed "equality" will propagate the most horrid of moral degradation, eventually even the sexualization of young children.

And when the degeneracy is complete, the masses, horrified at what a small band of revolutionary degenerates did to their once-peaceful and orderly society, will be desperate to support any counter-movement that vows to overturn the mess created by the cultural revolutionary activists. Yes, they will even support the insurgent band of theocratic goons who want a "Christian Nationalist" order, a New World Order—if only it will repress those degenerates and their influence out of society!

But you see, this was the trick all along: manufacture artificial chaos, so you can create the false solution that accomplishes the sinister goal you wanted from the beginning. In order to create the theocracy, you first need to create the moral degeneracy that the theocrats campaign against on the tide to power. But to create the moral degeneracy, the social conservative movement must not be allowed to succeed in the early stages of degeneracy, lest they, rather than the cultural revolutionaries, influence the youth.

Does this make sense? I know this is a bit to read through, but I very much hope you deeply ponder what I'm implying here with this brief summary, Andy. I, like you, very much am a conservative at heart who opposes what the Leftists have done to the United States. And still, there remains a larger pernicious plot—that impacts the whole world—which you and I must grasp before it's too late, when the masses are deceived into the final perdition and are lost for all eternity.

There are people I know from throughout my life who I grieve over, because I fear that they are too closed-minded and will likely be deceived amidst the great falling away (see 2 Thess. 2:3) that is to come; some of them, I've tried convincing, and because of their hard hearts in lack of humanly compassion, I will not bother anymore. But it would terribly grieve my heart more to see someone like you, who out of good faith fought for righteousness your entire life, to be deceived into perdition along with the rest of the world that prepares to face condemnation for their ungodliness. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 21:24, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

"Does this make sense?" No. "artificial chaos". It's either artificial or it's real. And if it's not real, you're just confused. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:36, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

By the way, how come my citations were removed here? —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 23:37, October 7, 2023 (EDT)

Math, Bible, Harvard University graduate analysis and Harvard University staff attempting to debunk him

Watch these videos: Mathematical Fingerprints of God Genesis 1:1 and THE AMAZING FIRST VERSE OF THE BIBLE. It has to do with Math and Genesis 1:1 by someone who graduated from Harvard University whose name was Ivan Panin. At the age of 22 he emigrated to the United States and entered Harvard University, where he spent four years, learning Greek and Hebrew, and graduating in 1882 with a Master of Literary Criticism.

Also, read this: Panin : The Astonishing Pattern of SEVENS in Genesis 1:1

Here is one of his books for free: The Inspiration of the Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated by Ivan Panin

Here is info on his first book with an audio file and some free PDFs: Bibliology Session 11-Complexity of the Bible

Here is his first book: The New Testament in the Original Greek. Text established by Ivan Panin by means of Bible numerics

Here is a copy of his complete works, but it is a bit cumbersome to access: Internet Archive - Ivan Panin

There are a number of video's at YouTube on Ivan Panin at: Ivan Panin videos.

Here is Ivan Panin's bio at Wikipedia and it takes a skeptical slant, but it does list all of his books: Ivan Panin

Other than Panin's commentary on Genesis 1:1, I am not familiar with Panin's work. However, I thought you might be interested in his work. Conservative (talk) 08:46, October 8, 2023 (EDT)

Page move request

Hello again! I made a small mistake when I created a new page on OOP. I titled the page Object-oriented, but it should really be titled Object-oriented programming. Would you please move the page for me? Sorry about my mistake! MayGodBless (talk) 11:26, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Done. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:37, October 10, 2023 (EDT)

Numbers and the Bible

I found this today: Meaning of numbers in the Bible. The resource also covers the topic of infinity in the Bible. Conservative (talk) 17:10, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 20:22, October 17, 2023 (EDT)

Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.

Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia:

  • [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]

Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! MarkLM8 (talk) 13:57, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

Russia and family values

A counter-argument to the position that Russia is a leader in family values:

  • [[Essay: Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. The Bible says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Russia has the 3rd highest rate of divorce in the world. Is Russia a beacon of family values in the world? Nyet!|Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. The Bible says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Russia has the 3rd highest rate of divorce in the world. Is Russia a beacon of family values in the world? Nyet!]]

If you want to provide feedback, it would be most welcome. Conservative (talk) 21:44, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

Russia has only about 1 more divorce per 1000 people than the U.S. That doesn't seem to be a big difference. Meanwhile, Russia reduced the number of its abortions by 39% between 2016 and 2021, and has been trying to reduce it further. See here.
Ukraine Human Rights Ombudsman Lyudmila Denisova was actually fired in an unprecedented move for manufacturing fake news reports about alleged Russian rapes and bringing disrepute on the Ukrainian regime.[1]
Russia had a fertility rate of 1.50 births per woman in 2020. But it's probably much lower now that so many Russian young men are in Ukraine and some will become casualties. The USA had a fertility rate of 1.64 births per woman in 2020. But given the massive amount of illegal immigration into the USA from Latin America it should go higher. The current fertility rate for Latin America And The Caribbean in 2023 is 1.958 births per woman.[17] The replacement level of births for a society is 2.1 babies per women due to infant mortality and other deaths.
Futhermore, Vladimir Putin is divorced and hardly a leader for family values in the world. The best form of leadership is by example.
Also, I just added the information in the essay about Russian soldiers raping Ukrainian women and stripping people naked which is definitely not practicing family values.
With that being said, I am definitely not for illegal immigration. In addition, making criticisms of Russia doesn't mean that I believe that the USA should fund the corrupt and authoritarian country of Ukraine. Conservative (talk) 22:28, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
Also, it was reported in 2018, "The church has been pushing for a ban on abortion. The Kremlin isn’t interested."[18] Conservative (talk) 22:31, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
I made a small error above. Just because the USA received a wave of illegal immigration from Latin America which has a higher fertility rate that doesn't necesarily mean that the USA fertility rate will climb. But it might drop more slowly. Conservative (talk) 22:52, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
Is there a purpose behind your xenophobic crusade, other than to justify neocon warmongering? You have a hard time painting Russia as atheistic or queer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:15, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, given your obsession with Ukraine, and its caustic nature, you are hardly in a position to accuse someone of xenophobia. It's so laughable that you think your lame accusations of racism, xenophobia, Russophobia and Nazism have any effectiveness whatsoever. Frankly, they don't - especially since they are coming from a gossiper. Your other lame accusations are just as ineffective and nobody but yourself thinks they are effective. Your inability to make actual counterarguments via counteressays is so lame. I have far more respect for Andy Schlafly who makes actual counterarguments rather than lightweight responses. Conservative (talk) 10:51, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

You've been on this xenophobic crusade long before you were exposed as a student of the Haushofer school of geopolitics. And going around to every talk page and user talk page changing "geopolitics" to "international relations" to hide the racial theories you've been peddling hides nothing. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:09, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
More unconvincing rhetoric from a known gossiper. Andy Schlafly is very aware that you are gossiper and he had to step in. Conservative (talk) 11:22, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Why are you gossiping about me being a gossiper? Wasn't it your gossiping that I allegedly was a Ratwikian that got me desysoped years ago? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:37, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Andy Schlafly is a graduate of Harvard Law School. You floating the idea that he doesn't know how to weigh evidence and cannot distinguish hearsay from actual evidence is preposterous. Your prior desyoping was entirely just and you should be more grateful that he took you back as an Admin! Conservative (talk) 11:43, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
So you just admitted to gossiping about me for the past 10 years.
Andy wants to end the ceaseless strife between editors, and I don't blame him. I simply think there are other ways to handle editor disputes than constantly turning to the ban hammer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:05, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

You trying to position yourself as some kind of just and uncontentious arbiter is a total failure. You only had one person sign up for Team CP - namely User: NishantXavier. And in the one dispute between you and I that he voted on, User: NishantXavier took my side. Conservative (talk) 12:23, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

All the postings you've done to active user talk pages in the past two weeks is nothing but gossip, intending to stir up controversy and strife between editors.
Your editing is not focused on ideas and issues. You have a documented habit of targeting people you meet online, whom you then gossip about to slander reputations. You have no personal interest in slandering Russia and Russians other than to carry out some personal vendetta towards me, whom you perceive as an "enemy" for exposing some of your sloppy research habits. Rather than fix the errors in some of your Essays, you aim to destroy your critics by creating another inane Essay with titles such as [[Essay: Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. The Bible says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Russia has the 3rd highest rate of divorce in the world. Is Russia a beacon of family values in the world? Nyet!|Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. The Bible says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Russia has the 3rd highest rate of divorce in the world. Is Russia a beacon of family values in the world? Nyet!]] . RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:40, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
I love the title of the essay. And I will also point out that my political essays get far more traffic than yours. The view counter for [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]] has over 10,000 page views. USA! USA! USA! Conservative (talk) 12:51, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Your Essays add fuel to the fire of the charge that conservatives are inherently racist. I however, understand the motivations for you creating such sick garbage. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:59, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) In that title alone, it is quite a leap in logic to go from divorce to remarriage. What percentage of divorced people ever remarry? As Andy pointed out, your premise is meaningless. And you only wrote the Essay, devoted time to it, in a vindictive attitude toward another editor, not by an interest in Russia's social problems or intending to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:55, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Instead of whining about my essays that disagree with some of your ill-informed opinions about Russia/China and other matters, feel free to create counter essays to my essays. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 12:58, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
(A) I've explained dozens of times your error in assuming I have some emotional attachment to Russia; (B) You lie, exaggerate, and gossip about me assuming I have some emotional attachment to China, which is indicative of the how much neocon brainwashing you've absorbed.
The China article, such that it exists now, is probably 80% written by me, as well as subsidiary articles on PRC, PLA, etc. And I will formally ask Andy right now to instruct you to stop lying and gossiping about me to other editors about my views on China on their talk pages and other talk pages. RobS[[User t
Here is the xenophobic crap I had to remove from the China article:

China sewage eating.PNG

Still waiting for your next Essay: Essay: Russians eat sewage. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:14, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

Deny that the Chinese ate gutter oil made from ingredients from processed sewage and lose all credibility.

Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[19]

In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, "Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil."[20] Conservative (talk) 13:35, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

Oh wow. (a) So the rule of law exists in China; (b) you take credit for posting that racist garbage in the China mainspace; (c) it would not be too difficult to Google an equivalent horror story in Western civilization or the United States to stir up animosity and prejudice between groups; (d) for a whataboutism, what about normalizing sex between men? Are you onboard for that? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 13:47, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
If you believe that the rule of law in China is exemplary and fairly applied, then create the essay: Essay: The rule of law in China is excemplary and fairly applied. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 13:50, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Ronald Reagan is a divorced man. He is definitely not the world's foremost leader when it comes to family values.
If you believe that the rule of law in the United States is exemplary and fairly applied, then create the essay: Essay: The rule of law in the United States is exemplary and fairly applied to Donald Trump and the J6 prisoners. Godspeed. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:21, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Here is a good example of O'Sullivan's First Law at work in Conservapedia:

[[File:Putin I'm not bluffing.PNG|thumbnail|301px|center|[[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin]] is a divorced man.[ citing the ''New Yorker'']. He is definitely not the world's foremost leader when it comes to family values. ]]

According to User:Conservative, King David is going to hell, which of course is anti-biblical. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:09, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, feel free to write a counteressay at Essay: Vladimir Putin is NOT divorced. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 16:32, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
I realize you have not got the message yet that planet earth has moved past Russia and Ukraine (where NATO got its butt kicked) and onto Israel/Hamas, so you can stop trolling on Russia and Putin now. You can now move onto promoting neocon talking points advocating for a US-Iran war. I mean, why wait for me to spell out opposition to a US-Iran war when you can jump the gun now for your promotion of neocon warmongering? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:36, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, I understand why. You really have no interest or understanding of User:Conservative#General_international_politics_essays, and you just enjoy using Conservapedia as a platform to troll your imaginary internet enemies. Too bad I'm not obese or like French Fries, you probably wouldn't have to devote 90 hours a week working on such inanity. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:44, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

—Matt 12:36

I don't want to be there when you try to justify the malicious intent you wrote many of your essays with. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 16:51, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, my essay [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future|The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]] states: "I do agree with Donald Trump that America should not get into "endless wars" that do not serve America's vital interests.[7] I also agree with Trump's policy of not using the American military to "solve ancient conflicts in faraway lands".[8]" So you can stop prattling on about me being a neocon.

In short, you can stop gossiping now. And I can tell you for certain that George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Chuck Norris, John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are not individuals that are associated with gossiping! Conservative (talk) 16:52, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

You gossiped and colluded with Ratvandals, either knowingly or unknowing (probably unknowingly) to get me desysoped 10 years ago (for example, Conservapedia:Community_Portal/archive1a#TracyS_edits_from_the_same_IP_address_as_RobS). You've been gossiping 10 years non-stop since.
You're gossiping about Vladimir Putin right now; Jesus said, "saving for the cause of fornication". How do you know Putin's wife wasn't cheating on him, huh? What special insight do you have into sealed divorce papers? Are all spouses who divorce an unfaithful husband or wife, per the scripture, not exemplary of family values? Or are you just motivated to spew ethno-phobic hatred and bigotry motivated by your animosity towards me? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:01, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
I am sorry you feel this way about matters. Feel free to write counteressays. I stand by what I wrote in my essay: [[Essay: Whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. The Bible says adulterers will not inherit the kingdom of God. Russia has the 3rd highest rate of divorce in the world. Is Russia a beacon of family values in the world? Nyet!]] Conservative (talk) 17:05, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

[[File:Donald Trump official presidential photo.jpg|thumbnail|301px|center|Donald Trump is a divorced man. He is definitely not the world's foremost leader when it comes to family values. ]]

Andy, as you can plainly see, his entire Essay series simply is trolling, and not motivated by any desire or intention to educate conservative students. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:08, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, here we are, on the eve of the United States committing troops in WW3, and I've spent the entire day responding to User:Conservative's nonsensical trolling. Andy, please put a stop to this and ask User:Conservative to honor his pledge to stop trolling.

Additionally, User:Conservative continues to visit other editors talk pages to stir up strife between editors. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:31, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

Additional feedback to the boss's response

ASchlafly, you wrote above: "Russia has only about 1 more divorce per 1000 people than the U.S.".

Actually, that appears to be incorrect and I cite: Divorce Rates by Country 2023 and a table of their data is listed below:

Top 13 countries by divorce rate.png

Russia's divorce rate according to this data is 31% higher. Conservative (talk) 18:01, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

You're point, other than trolling on some insignificant point?
Do you think God is going to send Russians to hell at a rate of 31% more than Americans? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:43, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Speaking of inanity, what is the divorce rate among gay married Americans compared to Russians, where it is banned? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:44, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, just look at Recent Changes or User:Conservative's contribs to get some idea of the scale, and time allocated, of User:Conservaitive's trolling since early July. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:57, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams Conservative (talk) 18:58, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
What facts? in Russia, where gay marriage and gay parades are banned, and your compulsion to demonize Russia, Russians, and its democratically elected leaders 24/7 for twenty months on end? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:01, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
And your marriage "facts" are flawed prima facia. It takes no account of cohabiting fornicators who break up and never registered a marriage certificate at the courthouse.
The social stigma and pressure for cohabiting fornicators to marry in Russia is higher than in the United States, hence an allegedly "higher" divorce rate. Sorry, try again with some other inane, trolling argument. iRobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:06, October 19, 2023 (EDT)
Biden must be reading User:Conservative's Essays, cause he's using the same talking points to pitch another $100 billion for a lost cause in Ukraine and aid to Hamas where the only result is people getting killed. This is a moral question. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:16, October 19, 2023 (EDT)

Using Essay space for this kind of neocon globalist racism is sickening

  • [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!"]] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:16, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
I always believed Conservapedia was at least a cut above the neocon and neo-fascist globalists of the London Financial Times with some regard and respect toward the intelligence of our readers. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:58, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Off topic trolling and spam

Question: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?
Now toilets are neocon, globalist, racism!
In 2023, Russia ranked 74 out of 150 countries on the World happiness index.[1] The World Happiness Index 2023 Report will mark its 10th anniversary with the Globe Happiness Reflect, which compiles data from international surveys to show how people rank their lives in more than 150 countries.[2]

According to, the happiness index, calculated as the difference between shares of happy and unhappy people, reached 18 percent in Russia in 2021, down from 51 points in 2016. To compare, an average of 44 countries surveyed worldwide was measured at 43 percent in 2021, having increased from the previous year.[3]


Summary: I trust this further clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 17:21, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Conservative, you said: "So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia." That sounds like exactly what the Ukrainian Nazis did at the Volhynia massacre. I guess Putin's army is just a bunch of Nazi-esque Communistic socialist murderous goons after all. So much for "denazification." —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:41, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
In fact, this entire war between Russia and NATO is just a manifestation of two rival socialist/white supremacist sects vying for power over a few regions to further their own ethnonationalist aims. That's why neo-Nazis are split, some supporting Russia and others favoring Ukraine. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:46, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
This type of propaganda, historically speaking, is a sure sign NATO is losing. When you compare this kind of Western propaganda to Russian mocking the LGBT movement, Russian propaganda has the element of truth to it. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 17:50, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Actually, I was quoting from the Financial Times which is one of the many news outlets that RobSmith doesn't want me to read. He wants me to be in a self-imposed Russia/Putin-adoring bubble, but I prefer reality which looks at the bad and good points of various countries and people in history.
Look at my personal user space where RobSmith bitterly complained that I don't restrict my reading to news sources that he personally approves: User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles. Conservative (talk) 17:54, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, how sad that us conservatives don't care for his colorful variety of Comsymp outlets. —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:57, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
He also thinks that neoliberalism is tied to Nazism. In essence, he is propagating the Marxist line that National Socialism is/was a "right-wing"/"bourgeois" movement even though it's a form of left-wing nationalism opposed to right-wing "bourgeois nationalism." In November 1932, following the Berlin transport strike, German conservatives called the Nazis "Bolsheviks." —LT Rev. 22:13 Monday, 17:59, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Look at my personal user space where RobSmith bitterly complained that I don't restrict my reading to news sources that he personally approves: User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles

This is so sad. His personal political opinions can't withstand a critical examination so now he wants to restrict my online reading. This is never going to happen.

"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry Conservative (talk) 18:17, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Final note about someone filling my user talk pages with tripe telling me that I cannot read web articles or news sources that he personally disapproves of. I don't need or want his prior approval to read web articles or news sources.
Please read my message HERE.
Have I sufficiently clarified matters? I trust I have! Conservative (talk) 18:53, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Actually, you've betrayed yourself once again, how badly informed you are and unknowledgeable in the sphere of international relations. The joke about Russians and toilets is one of the oldest around - Solzhenitsyn - whom you claim to have read - tells how Stalin reassigned occupation troops returning from Germany rather than allow them to go home cause he didn't want them telling family and friends about running water in German homes. Smoothiex12 (Andrei Martynov) makes reference to the running joke every couple of months when highlighting Western bigotry. But go ahead, advertise to the planet that you get your marching orders from the neocon globalists at the Financial Times. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:03, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Not for one fraction of a nanosecond will I ever live under some nongovernmental, scolding quasi-NannyState imposed by a person whose unreasonable views are ill-informed - especially when it is run by a gossip. My essay [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]] completely debunks your personal views about Russia that you shared with me. Conservative (talk) 19:12, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Whoever asked you to?
(ec) And you just betrayed yourself once again: "telling me that I cannot read web articles or news sources that he personally disapproves of". You know I've never said any such thing. But you however just admitted to regurgitating verbatim the garbage you do consume with no discretion or judgement. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:14, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Who asked me to? You asked me to: User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles

But of course, your pathetic whining was a Pickett's Charge that accomplished nothing. Conservative (talk) 19:18, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

It's too bad that the Russians have not made better progress on the toilet front since Solzhenitsyn. Russia's corrupt keptocracy is making things more difficult for Russians. Why can't the Russians be more like Singaporeans? See: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]. Conservative (talk) 19:24, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith should open a brewery to sell all his excess aged whine. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:36, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
You're full of it. I read tons and tons of material daily, from all sorts of sources - 90 to 95% of which I reject for sharing because of the source. Here's one from today, that was very good and interesting, but I had to reject simply because of its title. It's closing paragraphs immediately made me think of you:
"Not that the West knows what the word "war"actually means. The US and NATO do not understand they have started a world war-- or even that they are at war at all —because they cannot imagine what a peer level war would be like other than mushroom clouds.

All that the Western military knows is wargames. Which means that “war” is just a game to them.

All the Western public knows comes from Hollywood, TV—and video games. For them, war is entertainment.

Which is why the Western media keeps on talking about the possibility of World War III happening —the ultimate bogey under the bed— even though it has already begun—like all great evils — banal.

West Point fills the empty minds of its military students not with facts but with theories of war, based on World War I and World War II —without realizing that every world war is unique to the extent that the world in which it occurs is unique.

So it is that the US lives in a fantasy world. Europe seeks to forget. Trudeau is a moron but in celebrating Nazi war crimes in the past, he highlights his support for contemporary Ukrainian and Zionist war crimes—and reveals the lost soul of Western culture.

Russia does not forget. It remembers.

Its experience is recent and bitter. For it, “never again” means something.

Putin is realistic – the ultimate pragmatist – so his primary foci are economic, legal, and cultural.

As a martial artist, he also knows it is best to avoid violence – but at the same time to be prepared for the worst. He recognizes that the US is a narcissistic bully so has created conditions of military superiority to discourage it from accidentally creating a nuclear catastrophe.

Even then, that may not be sufficient-- he must always face the fact that the US is out of touch with reality. [21]

RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:24, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Question: Why is Singapore so much better than Russia?. Hands down. There's really no comparison. Conservative (talk) 19:26, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
What does that have to do with the war Biden and Obama started? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:28, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Singapore compared to Russia: Parts of Russia are so bad to live in that Russia offers free land to Russians and foreigners. Singapore raises the threshold for foreign investors seeking permanent residency

  • Russia offers free land to Russians and foreigners: "In an attempt to boost the population and economy of the largely undeveloped regions,Vladimir Putin has ordered free land handouts in Russia’s Far East and Siberia. Last week he signed a law offering land plots to Russians and foreigners for free if they are willing move to the country’s remote Far Eastern and Siberian regions. Under the deal, all citizens can apply for a hectare of land (2.5 acres) – about the size of a football pitch – in a vast stretch of territory spanning the upper Arctic reaches near Alaska, down to islands off the coast of Japan and south to the Chinese border." Conservative (talk) 19:40, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
As the link above says, "the US is out of touch with reality". You'll be crying and licking your wounds soon enough.
The more you talk, the more you sound like Joe Biden. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:42, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Moscow Times, April 2, 2022: Indoor Plumbing Still a Pipe Dream for 20% of Russian Households, Reports Say: "Russia leads the developed world with the worst sanitation record, according to the London-based WaterAid NGO. A 2012 estimate citing official data placed the number of Russians whose households are only equipped with outhouses at 35 million, or roughly a quarter of the population." Conservative (talk) 20:34, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
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So Cons, keep spinning your wheels with fake news that's not even intended for Russians. You're building a great reputation as a researcher. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:33, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Conservative said that anyone who doesn't vote for him isn't black? Wow, what a shocking new exclusive from none other than the grandiose 666-time Pulitzer Prize winner ☭Rob☭ "Sherlock" ☭Smith☭. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 20:38, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
My rebuttal: "According to data put out by the Russian Statistics Service 22.6 percent of Russian households aren't connected to a sewer system, most of them in rural areas. Russian commentators are divided about how vital an achievement modern toilets are." - What do outdoor toilets tell us about Russia?, Euro Topics Press Review, April 3, 2019
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 23:04, October 23, 2023 (EDT)
Get your head out of the toilet. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:14, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Should I switch to Russian potholes? Russia's Pothole Predicament and Russian Cyclist Fined for Damaging the Pothole He Fell In and Russian politicians mocked with guerrilla pothole portraits. "In protest at the dismal state of the country’s roads, activists are using caricatures to shame authorities into taking action." Conservative (talk) 02:32, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

User:Conservabiden: You think your trolling is funny but it's really not. Just grow up. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:37, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
First the lack of indoor toilets in rural Russia and now potholes! The problems in Russia are endless! If only Russia was more like Switzerland and the USA! Conservative (talk) 03:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Why do you behave as such a simpleton? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 06:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith, even though you founded it, I think you need to consider resigning from Team CP due to your incivil remark above. It is unfortunate that User: NishantXavier will be the only remaining member then, but so be it. It's too bad that you aren't more civil. If you had been, you might have gotten more than one person to sign up for Team CP. Conservative (talk) 08:30, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
You're simpleton nature is showing again. It's not a pledge to be a doormat for trolls. If you took the Team CP pledge, you wouldn't have to worry about your pettiness and racist attitudes being called out by a fellow member. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:30, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
No one is accusing Conservative of "racism" except you. Everyone else considers your accusations to be bunk. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 20:21, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
He echoes all the neo-Nazi talking points of Volodymyr Zelensky and the Azov Battalion. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:27, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, Conservative echoes socialist talking points? Just another day, another audacious RobSmith claim. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 21:23, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
You don't think so? His views on demography, war and peace, international relations, and the American economy are identical to Joseph Biden at this moment. Both of them are 20 or 30 years behind the times. And like Biden, it is fruitless to even attempt to communicate or reason with him.
It is one thing to hold those views - it is another to spend the amount of time and effort he puts in to expressing those bigoted views daily.
He is a childish troll. Unlike ratrolls who were ideologically motivated, his trolling isn't even that. It is vindictive toward individuals he perceives as having offended him at some point in his life.
Some years ago he explained to me why his obsession with Atheism - as a child he was mocked for attending a religious school, so he grew up with a grudge toward the irreligious. His homosexuality series was just piling on his disdain for the godless.
But in more recent years you see his latching onto real life persons he encounters online, Ace, Spud, Lefty, Mussolini, etc. Now that he's banned from RW, he's focused on me because of some perceived offense. It has nothing to do with ideology. It's a vindictive nature based on some perceived personal slight. And this vindictiveness trickles down to ridiculing a person's obesity and carbohydrate intake, etc. It is childish and ridiculous. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:44, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
And you weren't also banned from RW as well? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
"bUt hE iS a cHilDiSh TrOlL" Your local irony meter exploded so loudly I can hear it from hundreds of miles away. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:11, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
So as Prof. Gilbert Doctorow said, "We are sliding towards a nuclear war where 7 billion people will die, and that is the issue of the day", User:Conservabiden had his head up a Russian toilet. Should the human species survive, that will be the historical record. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:00, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
He needs to get his eyes off me and put them on Christ. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:56, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
He's accomplished some fantastic SEO work. Judge not, that ye be not judged!LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Yah, I can see. Conservapedia went from a top 50,000 website to a top 150,000 website under his tutelage. By their fruits ye shall know them. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:53, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, it's his fault now, when you're the one ad hoc de facto running the site through relentless tyranny? No wonder the Conservapedia community doesn't take you seriously and wishes you were defrocked. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:57, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Yah. It went downhill real fast when the putz got me desysoped for a few years by gossiping about me. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:10, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
I mean, look at this: Category:RationalWiki. Scroll down, and imagine the amount of hours, day, weeks put into expressing animosity and ridicule toward real life individuals he encountered online, not so much critiquing their views, but their French Fry eating, for example. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:15, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Meanwhile, you put hours, days, and weeks into pushing Communist propaganda. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:26, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Oh yah? Find one living person I met online I set out to make their life miserable because of a personal dispute. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:33, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
More deflections from you. You'll never run out of commie whataboutisms, eh? —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
In this sense, you need to take User:Conservabiden's advice and read How to Win Friends and Influence people. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:38, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Step one: don't be a RobSmithite dutchbag. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:40, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

I never said that I was discriminated against for attending a religious school as a child. High school girls gossip - not grown men. Get a grip on yourself. Conservative (talk) 23:02, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith has the mentality of a high school girl, the manners of a five-year old brat, and the spine of a jellyfish. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:08, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
"brat" is the Russian word for "brother" (German "bruder"). It's a racist word that came into English through German meaning "a misbehaved child" (much the same way the word "slav" or "slave" came into English, another racist term referring to a "slavish mentality" or "Slavic mindset"). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:46, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Alright, my bad then, I clearly made an error—in no way did I intend to designate you as a part of brethren. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:50, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

Racist garbage and demographics

Evidently User:Conservabiden is pro-Biden's open border policies as he continues to spew racist garbage about Russia's demographics in multiple Essays.

RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:27, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Vladimir Putin, who is very Russian, said that Russia's demographic crisis, is an existential threat (See: [[Russia's fertility rate]]). Accepting reality isn't racist and it never has been or never will be. Furthermore, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that the war of attrition in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis worse.
It's so irrational of you to equate logic and facts with racism. It's very obvious that you are either totally irrational or that you are fishing for a club to strike me with and will go to very desperate and illogical measures to use a faux club out of spitefulness. It's time to get a grip on yourself and start being a reasonable and just person. Conservative (talk) 22:59, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
So what should Putin do? Open the floodgates to illegal immigration like your hero Joe Biden? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 23:12, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Now that's rich—Conservapedia's resident senile vegetable accuses a conservative of heroizing another senile vegetable. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:25, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
Well it's true. He now credits John Maynard Keynes, an "incompetent pedophile", for America's consistent economic growth by piling on the national debt which, according to him, is a great accomplishment. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:18, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Putin is a neo-Communist dictator not to different from Hillary Clinton in the sense of political dissidents mysteriously murdered. —LT Rev. 22:13 Wednesday, 23:09, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
There are three incontrovertible facts: 1) People are not flocking to Russia and many people have left Russia in recent times. 2) Russia has a below-replacement fertility rate and has an aging population. 3) Russia is involved in a war of attrition that is making Russia's demographic crisis worse. If these difficult problems can be solved, it is going to take leadership. So far, Russia's leadership has not come close to solving these problems. The Amish and the Africans have above replacement fertility rates. It can be done. But it takes commitment to make things like this happen. Conservative (talk) 23:20, October 24, 2023 (EDT)
So what would prompt a person, who had no prior interest in Russian culture or civilization, as the planet faced nuclear annihilation, to suddenly spend two days of his life writing three Essays on Russian toilets? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:06, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

First of all, your assertion that I have had no prior interest in Russia culture or civilization is an unproven claim that you offered no evidence for. And logic dictates that he who asserts must prove. Also, my Music around the world collection includes Russia music. Furthermore, it didn't take me long to create a resource on Russia's problems relating to sanitation that is helping to cause people to leave rural areas. "According to data put out by the Russian Statistics Service 22.6 percent of Russian households aren't connected to a sewer system, most of them in rural areas. Russian commentators are divided about how vital an achievement modern toilets are." - What do outdoor toilets tell us about Russia?, Euro Topics Press Review, April 3, 2019 (See: [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!"]] and [[Essay: Russian social stability is threatened by a lack of indoor toilets in rural areas? Russian commentators are divided!]]).

A few of these things have been explained to you already several times so I don't think you are acting in good faith. So please feel free to engage in last wordism. Conservative (talk) 00:20, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

When the bomb goes off, you're gonna be sitting on the thunder beam and nobody's gonna remember or care. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:21, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg, all 17 million sq km of Russia is West Virginia, only they're not all drug addicts. That's not news to anybody. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 00:24, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
User:Conservabiden expunging his use of "geopolitics" from Conservapedia.
Have you built a bomb shelter? Do you live in a remote area? Have you bought a big supply of food? I don't think you have done any of these things. Your bomb rhetoric is just a device to change the subject when you lose an argument like you did in this instance. You often resort to these type of tactics when you lose arguments badly. Conservative (talk)
Hey, it ain't my "bomb rhetoric", it's the whole planet, with the exception of you. But you got your head in a Russian toilet. Go ahead, I need fresh material for Essay: Are ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity conservative values? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:01, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
And as far as things being "explained to you", I think you were there the first time, Mr. Geopolitical expert of the Haushofer school, when I explained to NishantXavier who and what the Moscow Times was. But you used it anyway in one of your racist screeds about Russian toilets. Have you deleted it yet? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:12, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, you should see this: two weeks after I finally had to spell out in plain English that User:Conservabiden was using the language and rhetoric of the notorious Nazi Geopolitician Karl Haushofer, User:Conservabiden went to every mainspace, essay, talk page, and user talk page (including Move logs) that he had ever used the term "geopolitics" and changed it to "international relations". It took him 3 hours. Of course, after hinting for nearly two years that he needed to tone down his rhetoric, and finally spelling out why, I was accused of personal attacks. His expunging use of the term exonerates me of the charge of incivility, yet the racist content is still there in his Essays. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:37, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
As User:Conservapbiden would say, "I trust this clarifies things." RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:00, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
No, it did not clarify things. I take it you haven't moved to a remote area, bought a bomb shelter or bought a lot of food for a bomb shelter. It's just rhetoric. Like your failure to move to Russia which is filled with unhappy people and that has had many people leave it in recent years. Conservative (talk) 06:22, October 25, 2023 (EDT)
Why don't you work on a Karl Haushofer article, Mr. Geopolitical expert, rather than Russian toilets and trolling people, and show us your geopolitical knowledge and expertise? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:12, October 25, 2023 (EDT)

Argumentum ad chiasmus in defense of the Johannine Comma

Hi Andy, just thought you would perhaps be interested on this topic: the brief pericope of 1 John 5:6–8 which contains the highly disputed "Comma Johanneum" actually makes sense from a chiastic perspective when the full clause is included; it would look like this (when using the KJV):

  • A) "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood." (5:6a)
  • B) "And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth." (5:6b)
  • C) "For there are three that bear record in heaven," (5:7a)
  • D) the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: (5:7b)
  • C') "and these three are one." (5:7c)
  • B') "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit," (5:8a)
  • A') "and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." (5:8b)

However, without the Johannine Comma, this is what it looks like instead (now using the ESV):

  • A) "This is he who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not by the water only but by the water and the blood." (5:6a)
  • B) "And the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth." (5:6b)
  • C) "For there are three that testify:" (5:7)
  • B') "the Spirit" (5:8a)
  • A') "and the water and the blood; and these three agree." (5:8b)

In a biblical chiasm, the central message is supposed to be complete and remarkable, eloquently summarizing some overall theme. As you can see with the comparison here, the Johannine Comma inherently makes more sense because the central point of the pericopal chiasmus states exactly what the "three" is: the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Hopefully you understand the general idea I'm invoking here? —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 01:39, October 24, 2023 (EDT)

7 to 0 vote of motion of no confidence about a Conservapedia admin. Editors are unhappy with this admin's behavior

A good faith editor with the username User: MayGodBless put in a motion of no confidence relative to RobSmith's adminship and it received 7 votes in its favor. No person voted in favor of RobSmith.

You can see for yourself at Motion of no confidence re: RobSmith

Even if you don't strip RobSmith of his adminship, you need to tell him to stop using templates to cover up other people's talk page comments, verbally abusing other editors and engaging in other heavy handed and rude behavior. Conservative (talk) 09:56, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

Quit your gossiping. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:25, October 26, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, do you want the receipts? Because I'll glad give them to you and proceed to toss your hide to Betelgeuse once my physics-expertised friend supplies me the 5.91 x 10^11 joules of energy. —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 12:45, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

Should CP allow Essay space to be used as a platform for Holocaust denial and Holocaust revisionism?

We don't need a specific rule and wording. It can be dismissed as trolling if an editor refuses to cooperate in changing certain wording or using certain sources. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:51, October 26, 2023 (EDT)

The real Holocaust denial is you refusing to admit that the ideological origins of the Holocaust stem from the Nazi desire to create a Real Socialist™ state by killing the Jews to "socialize the people." This facts of history are on my side of the debate, and I'll gladly throw another few dozen sources at you. But do go on with your psychological projection! —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 15:03, October 26, 2023 (EDT)
Communists were targeted victims of the Holocaust, not perpetrators as you wish to imply. That is Holocaust revisionism. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:06, October 26, 2023 (EDT)
"bUt cOmMunIsTs wErE vIcTimS" Yeah, just like how Stalin's close lackeys who supported his Great Purge and later were liquidated themselves are just such venerable heroes, right? Right? Even if one will make the "Nazis killed Communists" arguments, they're all just parallel/identical Socialists at the end of the day hardly different from one another. Communists from day one were frenzied in antisemitism: just check out "On the Jewish Question" by Karl Marx or look up what the KPD leader Ruth Fischer had to say about the Jews.
Besides, the German KPD is essentially akin to Fritz Thyssen: they support a murderous rampaging mass killer to power (NSDAP–KPD collaboration in the Berlin transport strike chipped away the SPD majority coalition, and the subsequent chaos let Hitler seize power), and then that same power turns on them. Those who live by the sword die by the sword! —LT Rev. 22:13 Thursday, 15:10, October 26, 2023 (EDT)
"not perpetrators" On this specific claim, you are once again dead-on wrong! As the history records clearly show, Communist recruits among the SA comprised anywhere from possibly a fifth to even a half of its members; I believe at its peak, the SA had about three million members? So potentially over a million Nazis who carried out the Holocaust were Communists. —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 19:08, October 27, 2023 (EDT)
The SA did not carry out the Holocaust. The SS did.
The SA never quite recovered from the 1934 Night of the Long Knives, nearly a decade before the Holocaust.
Again, you are waaay out of your league on this one. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:32, October 27, 2023 (EDT)
Wow, you block me right before posting a boastful taunt. Classic RobidenSmith move, eh?
You fail to understand that the SA leadership is not the same as the rank-and-file. The organizational leadership was purged in 1934, but the rank-and-file remained in the Nazi movement. If you can't understand that, then too bad. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:30, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
The SA was not empowered to execute the Holocaust (the "Final Solution"). The SS was. It (the Holocaust or Final Solution) originated with Goring's Commission to Heydrich (see Lucy Davidowicz, A Holocaust Reader).
The SA was a party organization, not a paramilitary group.
By 1942, when the Holocaust ("Final Solution") was implemented as government policy, all able-bodied men were serving in either the Wehrmacht or SS. The SA by that time was just a bunch of old fat local party hacks.
The SS was created in 1927 as Hitler's personal bodyguard, recruited from the SA with 100 members. When the Nazi Party assumed power in 1933, it was split off from the SA completely, had about 15,000 members, took over the local German police forces, and created the Gestapo. By 1945, it had about 1 million members from nearly 2 dozen nationalities. (See Heinrich Hohne, The Order Under the Totenkopf)
Yes, the SA was primarily responsible for Kristallnacht in 1938, but that was at least three and half years before the Holocaust.
You are simply barking up the wrong tree, attempting to demonize communists or the Communist Party as responsible for the Holocaust to meet contemporary American anti-Socialist and anti-Communist sentiment. That is historical revisionism and Holocaust revisionism. And some might even say Holocaust denial. You are beginning with a conclusion and trying to twist historical facts to fit your contemporary view.
Your argument is basically, "Well, they're both totalitarian, so what's the difference?" Well, there is a difference. And for all your emphasis on ideology as a motivating factor, I'm at a loss why you can't see the difference. i blame the sources you are looking at.RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:48, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Your Communist/Nazi revisionism won't work on me, pal. To reiterate (and slightly expand) for the zillionth time: the three million rank-and-file Nazis in the SA continued the NSDAP ranks, even if not in the exact SA hierarchy. The Night of the Long Knives was a power struggle within the Nazi leadership that purged the SA leaders, not three million members of the rank-and-file.
The real Holocaust denial here is you refusing to admit that the Nazis instigated the Holocaust an in effort to create a far-left Socialist Utopia™. By denying the ideological origins of the Holocaust and why it happened, you are ad hoc denying the Holocaust. And I provided plentiful sources proving Communist presence in the Nazi movement. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:52, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
What year, where, and when, and who concieved the Holocaust? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:58, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, you need to ask me because you don't know the facts for yourself, eh? How sad. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:00, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
No. I want specifics. Not ideological mumbo jumbo.
I've tried to explain to you - when you put more than one "ism" in a sentence, like 2 or 3 or a half dozen, it doesn't make a lot of sense to the reader. But your only arguments are based on your own private understanding, or reconciliation, of various "isms", which nobody else understands. Give me some facts, not a bunch of Marxist dialectic. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:04, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
If you can't follow up on complex vocabulary, that's your problem, not mine. It only demonstrates your own naive foolishness and lack of knowledge, whether you realize it or not! I provided enough sources, and all you have to offer are fallacious cheap deflections I already refuted. And hey, since you love posting links to neo-Nazi sites so much, why don't you take your neo-Nazi propaganda to those fringe forums where you belong? This is a conservative wiki, not a Socialist agitprop site for your Communist/Nazi nonsense. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:10, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
RobSmith said: "nobody else understands". False; I understand it. It is actually quite easy to comprehend. MayGodBless (talk) 02:15, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, you do: Explain what a "neo-Marxist" was in 1921, and how a "neo-Marxist" from 1921 differs from a neo-Marxist in the 1950s & 1960s, or the 1990s, or today? I do not doubt for a minute that you will be able to differentiate in detail, without changing the term "neo-Marxist" from each era. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 09:09, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Your poor grasp of the issue at hand is showing: terms can change meaning over time. Again, life does not dumb itself down so you can understand it. MayGodBless (talk) 13:00, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, you can't say what LT means by "neo-Marxist" in 1921 either. Your input here now is just trolling. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:11, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Thanks; I'd say it's just easier to use specific terminology in the form of proper nouns to succinctly summarize an implied point instead of elaborating every single definition over and over, which is why I use "-isms." —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:17, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) LT, You need to read up on the Wannsee Conference, and show us where Communists or the Communist party was involved.
Then you need to find some high-level (or even low level) communists in the SS, as well. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:17, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
[EC] "communists in the SS" Oh, that's easy. Julius Schreck, Hitler's personal chauffeur and the first leader of the SS, was a Bavarian Communist in the Red Army militia. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:20, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, a guy who died 6 years before the Holocaust. Okay. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:25, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
More whataboutisms from you. You told me, and I quote, "find some high-level (or even low level) communists in the SS," and I just gave you an example with a citation: Schreck, not just any SS member, but its first leader. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:26, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
I said find a high level or low-level communist involved in the planning and implementation of the Holocaust, not a dead low level ex-communist chauffer. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:31, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Nope, you didn't specify the "planning and implementation of the Holocaust" part. All you said in that sentence, and I quote, was: "Then you need to find some high-level (or even low level) communists in the SS, as well." Too bad. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:32, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
I said, "You need to read up on the Wannsee Conference (which occurred in 1942)...Then...", "Then" meaning next in order of time, not some dead guy from 6 years earlier. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:47, October 29, 2023 (EDT)

Heads up

User:Conservative is now giving out your private email to users to send you harassing and trolling emails. [22] RobSGive Peace a Chance! 01:27, October 29, 2023 (EDT)

Andy already publicly listed his email. Nice try, RobaalSmith. —LT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 01:54, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Yes, it's for a specific purpose related to copyright, not for CP Admin to solicit spam to his email account. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:07, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
User:Northwest is a long-time, good faith editor. He certainly will not be impolite to Andy by sending him spam. Conservative (talk) 02:11, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Whatever. It's Andy's decision if it was a breach of faith. I just gave him a heads up. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 02:14, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Why am I getting spammed with messages from rattrolls? Who gave them my email? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:05, October 29, 2023 (EDT)

Off topic trolling

Basically put, Rob - nice try trying to play the "victim" while you go out of your way to desperately cover up your wrongdoing and the posts exposing proof of same, along with your abuse of the Block feature to unjustly silence those who criticize your behavior. No matter how much you want to pretend otherwise, criticism of your bad behavior here is not "trolling" or "incivility" and your actions in response are an abuse of power by you - basically put, you're in deep and you know it, that's why you're reacting as you are out of desperation. Northwest (talk) 02:21, October 29, 2023 (EDT)
Personal remark removedLT Rev. 22:13 Sunday, 02:23, October 29, 2023 (EDT)

Update on my future material on international politics and other material

There is some public interest in my material on international politics. For example, my essay at [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]] has received over 10,000 page views. In addition, there are a ton of conservatives in the West who love Western civilization and the importance of the rule of law and want it taught in schools more. And as a person who is interested in investing, I will be monitoring the economies of the USA, China, Russia, Europe, India and other places.

And so it will be very easy for me to periodically update my essays at User: Conservative's international politics essays. I will not have to do any additional research.

For example, I can easily report on the below three matters because there are many people who wish to know how many Chinese and Russians who are voting with their feet and leaving these countries:

1. Economies need the best talent and I can continue to report on the brain drain that is happening in both Russia and China.[23]

2. The number of people are fleeing communist China to come to the USA and other places (See: As economy falters, more Chinese migrants take a perilous journey to the US border to seek asylum, Associated Press, 2023).

3. The number of people who continue to leave Russia (See: Why are people leaving Russia, who are they, and where are they going?, BBC, June 2023).

I do want to thank User: NishantXavier for reminding me on how much better free, capitalistic countries who have the rule of law are than corrupt, authoritarian countries. People do vote with their feet and many people are leaving China and Russia. The USA still has plenty of people who want to emigrate to America.

In addition, I can create content on topics such as Early Christianity and other topics. Conservative (talk) 09:55, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Rule of law? Wud I tell yah. User:Conservative supports the persecution of Trump, J6 detainees, parents at school board meetings, open borders, non-parental consent for gender affirming care & abortions, ballot box stuffing, etc etc etc etc. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:17, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Update: PEDOPHILE KNOCKED OUT IN COURTROOM BY HIS VICTIM AFTER JUDGE HANDS DOWN NO JAIL TIME SENTENCE. Yah, I'm sure this happens everyday in Russian and Chinese courtrooms. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:36, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
By the way, I do have an interest in Singapore as well (Singapore is one of the most Westernized countries in Asia[24]).
For example, in my essay at [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]], I point out how much better Singapore is than Russia. That is why people are paying BIG money to immigrate Singapore while Russia is giving away free land to people who move to underdeveloped areas of Russia ([[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!"|Areas that still lack basic things such as indoor toilets]]). Conservative (talk) 10:38, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
"number of people are fleeing communist China to come to the USA", yah 75 were arrested at the border the other day (9 out of 10 get away). RobSGive Peace a Chance! 10:46, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
IMO, these spiteful hate screeds are doing Conservapedia more harm than good. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 11:06, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Andy, it appears as if someone wants Conservapedia to pass hate speech regulations so people don't post "hate screeds". I don't blame you for largely ignoring such insufferable, weak whining when it occurs. It certainly smacks of a person who can't make cogent counter essays and instead engages in talk, talk, talk on other people's essay pages. Conservative (talk) 12:02, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
I'm just saying discretion should be used. And for all "I agree with Prof. John Mearsheimer" you cut and pasted throughout your hate screeds, you evidently do not:
Nowhere does Mearsheimer preach the hate you do in your screeds. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:15, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Andy, I am in the midst of creating an essay at [[Essay: Top 12 reasons why people are flocking to the USA and leaving the corrupt, authoritarian countries of China and Russia]].

Do not be discourteous - use the Minor Edit box when appropriate.

If anyone takes issue with this essay, I would most welcome that they create a counteressay at: [[Essay: Top 12 reasons why people are NOT flocking to the USA and are instead flocking to the countries of China and Russia that are bastions of liberty]]. Conservative (talk) 12:22, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Mearsheimer says it was a colossal mistake to drive Russia into the arms of China. Mearsheimer says the corrupt authoritarian state of Russia should have been an ally with the US against China. I'll bet $50 you do not go back and revise all your deceptive neo-fascist hate screeds now. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 12:27, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Professor John Mearsheimer and Peter Zeihan both forecasted the conflict/war in Ukraine. In 2019, Ian Bremmer published the video Top Risks 2019: Risk 9 - Ukraine.
There are a lot of international relations experts/pundits who say valid things and I have cited them in some of my essays. Mearsheimer is the end-all and be-all as far as the discipline of international relations. In short, Mearsheimer is not God. I agree with some of the things he says and disagree with other things he says. Conservative (talk) 18:31, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
I "predicted" the war in 2014 when sanctions were first levelled. Sanctions are only leveled when you ("you" in this instance being John McCain and Barack Obama) don't have the military might and/or popular support to use military force. Any student of history sees and knows that. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:52, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Mearsheimer is not a sorcerer or fortune teller as you treat him, either. Right now Mearsheimer is warning about the disaster America faces, while you tout globalist and neo-fascist talking points as if they were "conservative" values. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:35, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
No wonder people think Nazism & fascism is conservative or rightwing, when they read the garbage and hate rhetoric you produce. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:37, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

Simon Wiesenthal is a real Nazi hunter. You are not. I still laugh about you insinuating that User: NishantXavier, the devout Christian from India, is some kind of Nazi/neo-Nazi. Conservative (talk) 18:42, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

You're the one who resurrected the Haushofer school here in Conservapedia, despite my warnings not to. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 18:45, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
All your pro-Nazi screeds are doing now is giving cause for Mike Johnson and Republicans to continue Ukraine aid. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 19:02, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Thank you for reminding me on why I don't read your content. When you quoted Caitlin Johnstone (an author of a book on astrology) at [[Talk:Essay: The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China]] and indicated that China's space lasers likely ignited a fire in Hawaii, I knew I had made the right decision. I agree with User: ConwayIII who wrote "Space lasers and Caitlin Johnstone? You're unravelling, man. ConwayIII (talk) 14:39, October 6, 2023 (EDT)". Conservative (talk) 19:29, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Johnstone doesn't peddle neo-fascist crap. Peter Zeihan, you, and Ian Bremmer do. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 20:38, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
I highly suspected that your endless droning on and on about the Haushofer school was another very lame and baseless accusation against me. Today, I finally looked into the matter. I was entirely right! This was a bigger embarrassment to you than citing some absurdity of Caitlin Johnstone and asking me to respond to it in relation to my essay at [[Essay: The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:06, October 30, 2023 (EDT)
Your Putin kleptocracy essay is just part of an echo chamber of corrupt globalist and neo-fascist talking points, in opposition to Republican efforts to end Ukraine war funding.
After the fight we just went through to get rid of McCarthy and install a MAGA Speaker, you would think you would have some sense about politics and international relations. But evidentially not. You have opposed MAGA efforts to end Ukraine war funding every step of the way for more than 20 months now. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:13, October 30, 2023 (EDT)

An illustrative scenario about a rogue Admin at Conservapedia

I am going to provide an illustrative scenario.

Let's say all of us put all kinds of false, denigrating accusations against Andy on Andy's talk page, main page talk, the community portal, Conservapedia's complaint page, and in our own personal pages. Furthermore, let's say the blockers kept blocking Andy for bogus reasons and Andy was unable to reverse the blocks.

Question: How long do you think such a state of affairs would last?

It wouldn't last long. Andy needs to practice the golden rule and do something about RobSmith ASAP. And then all RobSmith's garbage accusations against Conservapedians need to be deleted.

Key point: The Conservapedia:CP Civility Association has 6 members. RobSmith's Team CP merely has one member besides himself. It's not a big mystery why so few people signed up for Team CP. Conservative (talk) 14:28, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Fair point. RobSmith has acted in an unbecoming, unconservative, and just downright degenerate Leftist-characteristic behaviors. For example, RobSmith has posted links to neo-Nazi websites and openly defended white supremacist propaganda. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:37, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Key point: the one member of Team CP other than User: RobSmith is also a member of Conservapedia:CP Civility Association. This is the best of the public in action! MayGodBless (talk) 15:03, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

So User:Conservative is colluding with a bunch of Ratvandal sleeper socks against CP Admin. What else is new? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:13, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Please support your personal attacks with evidence. MayGodBless (talk) 15:20, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Yep, and you see that RobSmith still hasn't responded to this challenge of yours, because he can't provide any receipts to back up his claims. Ironically enough, he himself has mimicked the characteristic of "Trentist" editors from RationalWiki by lazily copying other users' writing style. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:28, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Topic ban

Please impose a topic ban on User:Conservative's foreign policy and defense related contributions, at least through 2024 primary election season. His deliberate CP:Trolling, "employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users or to distract them from productive editing and making mainspace article contributions" occupies a minimum of 3 hours, and sometimes as much as 6-8 hours of my time DAILY, prohibiting me from making substantive contributions on election and foreign policy matters.

User:Conservative has stated on dozens of occasions, over many years, that he has no interest in politics, and has repeatedly violated his own pledges to cease contributing on those subjects. His contributions are solely and specifically intended to irritate and waste the time of other editors, a violation of CP Commandments and Guidelines.

I have no objection to him contributing on election matters, where he can spew his neocon racist content to his heart's content. Thank you. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:27, December 28, 2023 (EST)

Andy told you on your talk page: "...I think there should be more leeway for strong editors to create essays and categorize them as they think best. That includes you too. Essays are a valuable part of this website (in contrast with the tyranny at Wikipedia which prohibits them). The essay author is easily identified from the entry history.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:26, December 22, 2023 (EST)"
Andy likes that I create essays (including political essays) - some of which have tens of thousands or thousands of page views. Conservative (talk) 17:43, December 28, 2023 (EST)
I have evidence that you are running a bot on some of your trolling Essays to rack up page views. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Disagreeing with you is not trolling. This is not RobSmithPedia. You are not infallible and you are not God. Conservative (talk) 17:52, December 28, 2023 (EST)
(ec) Note: You do not dispute the allegation that you are contributing "neocon racist content" to Conservapedia. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 17:47, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Off topic. We are not talking about your atheism content or anything else
And people like my content - especially my atheism article which has the highest page view count article on the website. My articles on homosexuality are very popular too. Conservative (talk) 17:57, December 28, 2023 (EST)

And just because you throw out a spurious and gossipy allegation about me, it does not obligate me to respond. Conservative (talk) 18:00, December 28, 2023 (EST)

Let's examine this edit today User:Conservative calls "motivational": "The only way we can compete with the Eastern Bloc...". The "Eastern Bloc" was a political and military alliance that ceased to exist in 1991. The ideology of the "Eastern Bloc" - communism - was defeated by the Russian Orthodox Church in 1991, yet User:Conservative created another Russophobic cut n paste screed this morning based upon highly dubious, racist, and neocon sources with false, inflammatory, and exaggerated information.

One can only assume User:Conservative is "motivated" by the same racial fear and disdain for the "Slavic hordes" of Eastern Europe that his sources broadcast.RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:14, December 28, 2023 (EST)

If you have a good case, feel free to create a counteressay. Andy likes content - not talk, talk, talk, talk. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 18:18, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Your challenges to create counteressays violates the clause of "employing redundant arguments intended to occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users". Your challenges have been answered many times, yet you re-employ that argument.
"Counteressays" would "occupy and waste the time, efforts, or energies of other users" in spurious arguments. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:28, December 28, 2023 (EST)
Furthermore, this is precisely why I make this appeal to Andy - your maliciously motivated trolling is an impediment to my creation of content. And your racist, neocon screeds nobody should consider conservative, or acceptable "content" for Conservapedia. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 18:37, December 28, 2023 (EST)

Conservapedia Essay space should not be a platform for Liberal fascism, and that is all User:Conservative's Geopolitical Essays amount to, not based upon any knowledge or expertise in the area, but rather motivated by spite and a personal vendetta toward another editor. RobSZelensky didn't kill himself 13:03, December 29, 2023 (EST)

Should CP Admin be allowed to create article Mainspace and Essay pages for the sole purpose of attacking and trolling other Admin or users?

To wit:

User:Conservative admits to creating Mainspace article and Essay pages out of animosity toward other editors and not for any education benefit:

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CP will not allow registered users to abuse the wiki in a such a manner. Why are Admin allowed to do so? RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:36, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

Another bogus charge by someone who insists that nothing be posted at Conservapedia that is contrary to his personal political opinions. Yawn. Conservative (talk) 14:39, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Yeah, Socialists hate natural competition, and insist all rivals and enemies be wiped out. They know their ideas are inherently inferior and impractical, so they resort to suppression tactics shutting down any effort by others to debunk their ideologies. RobSmith's Nazi tactics here on Conservapedia to shut down dissent is unacceptable Leftist behavior. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:42, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
And RobalaamSmith's entire argument that he's "fighting Nazism" is bogus when you consider the extent he went to just last year to defend neo-Nazi propaganda. When I removed RationalWiki/white supremacist subversion, RobSmith added it right back. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:45, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
I merely said that I chose to post my material in essays rather than in main page talk and the community portal. Why? It's no mystery. It was because someone was engaging in censoring and lodging denigrating bogus accusations in main page talk and in the community portal. If I create essays, RobSmith is reduced to posting on the talk pages of my essays which few people read given the poor quality of his commentary. I have learned not to read or respond to his lame posts on the talk pages of my essays because doing so causes much, much fewer people to read his talk page tripe. Conservative (talk) 14:47, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
That's also why I likewise created an essay exposing the Communist roots of Nazism instead of wasting my time bickering on the mainspace where RobSmith can unilaterally revert and protect articles. Since Andy has now limited deletion powers, I believe Administrators can't delete pages so easily anymore, forcing RobSmith to comment on my essay's corresponding talk page, and in doing so directs more attention to the essay itself! It would appear that my plan worked quite considerably well. :) —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:50, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) User:Conservative admits his Essay creations are not created for any educational value, but rather out of personal animosity and a spirit of revenge toward other users. See for example:

This is a mainspace article, not even in Essay space. Conservapedia would not allow registered users to use the wiki for the sole purpose and intent to attack and harass living persons on outside platforms with contnent devoid of any educational value. Why does CP allow Admin to troll and attack other Admin in Essay and article Mainspace?

I am not calling for disciplinary action. I'm calling for a clear statement of policy regarding Admin conduct toward each other. This statemnet can be done publicy or privately. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 14:52, October 31, 2023 (EDT)

RobSmith, you posted links to neo-Nazi websites on my talk page and defended white supremacist propaganda last year; I posted the receipts above. You are in no standing to criticize User:Conservative. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 14:58, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
(ec) You are trolling and being redundant. I count 6 edits trolling edits now. Go ahead, make four more so I can enforce 90/10. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:01, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
No matter how many useful edits I make to the mainspace, you'll point-blank revert my additions anyways if it doesn't fit your Communist narrative. So quit pretending like you're justly applying any Conservapedia rules, because you're the one creating problem after problem. But do go on with your psychological projection. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 15:09, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
That is not true. If you ceased trolling discussion pages with foolish and off topic content, and focused on the wording in dispute, you wouldn't be treated like a troll. BuT gO aHead, KeeP trOOling the Way You tHink Is Funny. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:16, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, but it is true, and you know it. What Conservapedia editor wants to invest hours of time in mainspace edits with the risk if you point-blank reverting for no good reason and locking the article because it doesn't suit your pro-Communist/Nazi worldview? And then you conveniently begin to hypocritically invoke 90/10 because you don't like the talk page discussions where everyone else despises your site presence; you don't have a single editor defending you. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:25, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
In fact, as of Halloween he has negative 7 editors defending. MayGodBless (talk) 16:27, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
He thinks he can trick the site to facilitate his bidding, and now he's getting the treat(ment) he deserves. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:30, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Millions of people are dying or getting disease due to ultra-processed food and junk food. An atheists/agnostic website that purports to embrace science promoted the eating of such food.
Andy himself made a post criticizing the eating of unhealthy food. In addition, he has made comments about engaging in unhealthy sports activities and watching such activities (See: Unplug the NFL). Conservative (talk) 14:59, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
That has zero educational value in a Mainspace article you created for the express purpose of targeting and harassing a living human being. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 15:17, October 31, 2023 (EDT)
Oh, that's right, you're the real victim. Do you seriously expect any of us to take your drunkard whining seriously? If you don't like Conservative's geopolitics essays, then ignore them. You chose to take the bait, and that's your fault. —LT Rev. 22:13 Tuesday, 16:27, October 31, 2023 (EDT