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:''This page contains some material moved from [[Talk:Main Page]] unrelated the [[Main Page|Conservapedia:Main Page]].  This page is for general discussions on any topic of no particular nature.<br>Please abide by CP's civility guidelines, and do not place the name of other Users (even your own) in subheadings. God bless and Happy posting!''
  
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:''If you have a complaint about another editor's actions, attitude, civility, or ideological leanings, place your complaint at [[Conservapedia:User complaints]] for full vetting from the community '''before''' the complaint makes its way up the administrative chain. Thank you.''
  
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== On proper grammar, or, did you know that most of the population of Texas is homosexual? ==
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[[Community Portal/Archives]]
  
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I have chided Cons repeatedly on proper punctuation, particularly regarding subordinate clauses and compound sentences.  For a sample, see [[User_talk:SamHB#Re:_Aburke]].
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Well, it turns out that the same errors can show up in unexpected places, like the Texas Republican party’s official platform.  It has:
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==Theory of Relativity==
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{{cquote|Homosexuality is a chosen behavior that is contrary to the fundamental unchanging truths that has been ordained by God in the Bible, recognized by our nations founders, and shared by the majority of Texans.}}
 
  
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See [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/majority-of-texas-gay_us_573e88bfe4b0613b5129e31d this].
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Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)
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:Interesting hypothesis!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)
  
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Watch those commas!!!!  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:57, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
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==Your best protection==
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:Wow. And shouldn't it be "have been ordained" rather than "has been ordained"?  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith| Pat Nixon for President]]</sup> 13:12, 20 May 2016 (EDT)
 
  
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== States and Governors ==
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Once I quoted [[Chaucer]] to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others."  This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.
  
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I mentioned this earlier, but nothing happened - here are the U.S. states with red-linked governors:
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That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.
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It seems that [[Doug Ducey]] even isn't any longer governor of Arizona! The overall look of the articles on the smaller states is quite abysmal - and often outdated. As I am not American, I do not feel up to editing these articles in detail, but I have to ask: If they cannot use Conservapedia even to check who the governor of an U.S. state is, what will high-school pupils think of it? They have to rely on Wikipedia to get up-dated information!
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This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound".  If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped.  What is the fallacy in this line of thinking? A Christian ought to know. A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.
  
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It would be nice to have articles on the governors, too, just to check their political priorities. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 05:11, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
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And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.
  
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:I know a fair amount about political concepts, people I can have a hand in electing, and other well-known political figures. However, I know little about--if you'll pardon the expression--lesser politicians, who have little significance to me.  Therefore, I'm sorry to say that I know almost nothing about these governors.  However, I've done a little on a couple of them.  I may do more, but all I can do is research then write based on what I find. It could be hopelessly inaccurate, but I have no way of knowing.  For this reason, I'm trying not to add too much detail, since I don't want to make fa lse statements.  If anyone else knows anything about them, please add to or revise what I've written! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 11:01, 24 May 2016 (EDT)
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Another thing I wonder about: Is the poison''ous'' deadly, or is only ''poison'' deadly? The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly".  [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::Well spoken, David. Speak of what you know; not of what some website wants you to believe. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 02:57, 26 May 2016 (EDT)
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==For the record==
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{{Cquote|''Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was.''|||Thomas Friedman, ''[[NYT]]'', April 3, 2022.<ref>[https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-04-04-thomas-friedman--what-is-happening-in-ukraine-is-the-real-world-war-i.ryONI1VO7q.html Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I], ''Teller Report'', 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com</ref>}}
  
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{{Cquote|''There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, [[World War III]] is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the [[Great War]] or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of [[MAD|mutual destruction]], but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the [[Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR) and the [[United States of America]] (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism.''|||Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.<ref>[https://menafn.com/1107349953/Leading-Russian-foreign-policy-expert-expresses-3rd-World-War-is-underway Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway], 11/1/2023. menafn.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the [[Thirty Years' War]] in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, [[philosophical]]ly speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it.''|||[[Alexei Arestovich]], January 14, 2024.<ref>[https://unherd.com/2024/01/oleksiy-arestovych-zelenskyys-challenger/ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger], ''Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas.''|||Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.<ref>Sergei Karaganov: ''[https://karaganov.ru/en/sergei-karaganov-nuclear-escalation-may-open-pandora-s-box-but-it-will-also-free-the-world-from-the-500-year-long-western-yoke/ Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke]'', Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.<br><small>Karaganov goes on: "But when the [[American]]s felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring [[military]] superiority, the foundation upon which [[the West]]'s dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world [[wealth]]. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s [[hypersonic]], [[Poseidon missile|Poseidon]] and other systems have ruined these hopes.
  
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They abandoned the [[INF|Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles]] ''[the treaty between the [[USSR]] and the [[USA]], signed by [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] and [[Ronald Reagan]] on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in [[Washington, D.C.|Washington]] ]''. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the [[ABM Treaty]], and so on.
  
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Instead they have got a [[war]] that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our [[men]] for that…
  
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However we will ensure our [[security]] and [[sovereignty]], and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long [[Western Civilization| Western]] yoke.
  
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If I am right about these two matters, I think Conservapedia's manual of style should be updated. Also, we might want to clean up our most high traffic articles so one column format is used.
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I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from [[Europe]] again. Europe is the spawn of [[evil]] for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the [[life]] of one generation, the [[sin]], which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. [[United_Kingdom#United_Kingdom.27s_parliament_and_homosexuality|Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain]]. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."</small></ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The [[United States]] confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of [[World War II]]. The United States could in short order be drawn into a [[war]] across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose.''|||Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.<ref>[https://www.rand.org/nsrd/projects/NDS-commission.html Commission on the National Defense Strategy] Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Look at what's happening in [[geopolitics]]. We're on the verge of [[World War III]] right now. We got a [[dementia]] patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the [[mainstream media]] or the political class or the big [[corporation]]s out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an [[aristocracy]] that is trying to bleed the [[peasant]]s dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the [[US]] took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of [[debt]]. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the [[gold standard]] and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is [[financial]] and [[economic]] [[history]] they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries.''|||[[John Robino]], August 24, 2024.<ref>[https://rubino.substack.com/about John Rubino]. rubino.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. [[History]] will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the [[NWO|world order]] that would be comparable to the post-[[World War II]] period with the creation of the [[International Monetary Fund]], the [[World Bank]], the [[United Nations]], these other [[Western alliance|Western controlled institutions]] that have been the foundation for the existing international [[rules-based order]].''|||[[Larry Johnson]], August 30, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/RTNREy2qamY From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview], Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. [[YouTube]]</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Remember [[World_War_II#Fall_of_France.2C_Denmark.2C_and_Norway|1940]]. In three weeks, [[American]]s will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the [[president]] who will determine the [[nation]]’s conduct during [[World War III]], which has begun.|||[[George Will]], October 16, 2024.<ref>[https://archive.is/GccN0#selection-709.0-709.195 Opinion  World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.] By George F. Will, ''[[The Washington Post]]'', October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has never been closer.'''|||[[Donald Trump]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/gQvg46PXlWo?t=2383 Donald Trump, October 24, 2024].</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has already begun.''|||[[Jamie Dimon]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/world-war-three-has-already-begun-jp-morgan-ceo-says-1976854 World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says], By Suzanne Blake, ''[[Newsweek]]''. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the [[WW3|third world war]] has begun.''|||[[Valerii Zaluzhny]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/world-war-3-already-begun-34162302 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador], By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, ''The Mirror'', 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk</ref>}}
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:::Note: [[Zaluzhny]] is the prime candidate of the [[globalist]] [[deep state]] to become the next puppet president of [[Ukraine]] once [[Zelensky]] is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things [[World War III]] has already begun. [Ed.]
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{{Cquote|''[[US]] [[policy]]makers fail to learn the lessons of [[history]] and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in [[Eastern Europe]] into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in [[NATO]] threatens to transform the [[war in Ukraine]] into a [[Third World War]] that could cost the lives of ten times more.''|||[[David T. Pyne]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://dpyne.substack.com/p/biden-attempting-to-start-world-war Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office], David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The sudden collapse of [[Bashar al-Assad]]'s despotic regime in [[Syria]] this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: [[World War III]] has already begun.''|||Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.<ref>[https://www.forbes.com/sites/brycehoffman/2024/12/08/world-war-iii-has-already-begun--and-businesses-need-to-take-note/ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note], Bryce Hoffman, ''Forbes magazine'', December 8, 2024. forbes.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War 3]] is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. [[Russia]], [[China]], and their allies want to transform the [[Rules based order|current US-led world order]] that has been in place since the end of [[World War 2]] from [[unipolar]] to [[multipolar]]—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The [[US]] and its allies want the unipolar [[status quo]] to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite [[nuclear]] [[Armageddon]], where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—[[proxy war]]s, [[economic]] wars, [[financial]] wars, cyber wars, [[Biological warfare|biological war]]s, deniable [[sabotage]], and information wars. This is World War 3.  It's happening right now and rapidly escalating.''|||Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.<ref>[https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/2025-year-global-order-unravels 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels], by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people.''|||[[Major General Apti Alaudinov]], June 13, 2025.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-general-declares-ww3-started-35389852 Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops], Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq ''Mirror'', 13 Jun 2025.</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the [[Third World War]] right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous.''|||[[Steve Bannon]], June 18, 2025.<ref>[https://youtu.be/lXJTCMVOiEI?t=199 Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon], ''[[The Christian Science Monitor]]'', Jun 18, 2025. [[YouTube]].</ref>}}
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Does anyone know about these matters? I ask because a lot of people are using mobile devices now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:11, 5 June 2016 (EDT)
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==Socialist [[Prime Minister]] of [[Slovakia]] and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left [[Robert Fico]] declares [[sovereignty]] from [[European values]] by signing [[Constitutional Amendment]] declaring there are only 2 [[gender]]s [https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/27/this-european-country-just-put-there-are-only-two-sexes-in-its-constitution/]==
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What is the [[EU]] & [[NATO]] gonna do with this [[Putin]] puppet? Invade [[Slovakia]]? Impose [[economic sanctions|sanctions]]? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the [[US]]/[[Biden regime]] idea of "[[democracy]]" with [[election fraud|rigged election]]s like in [[Moldova]], [[Romania]], [[France]], [[Germany]] and the [[UK]]?
  
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:I don't know, but I have a testing platform I might be able to use tomorrow, if no one else knows either.  It would have sense that single columns would be better, but the Wiki software comes with a mobile mode, so this might counteract columns.  I'll try to get back to you on this. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 23:26, 5 June 2016 (EDT)
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If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
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::I'll do some real-world testing tomorrow, but if you click the "Mobile View" link in CP's footer ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Operation_Compass&mobileaction=toggle_view_mobile here's the direct link]), you can see that columns are removed completely.  Therefore, it seems that it shouldn't matter what we do for columns. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 00:38, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
 
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:::A big problem with 2 column footnotes is that if there are a small number of footnotes, it will break them up with only one or two words in the second column.  It does not have code to put the column break between two different footnotes. Thank you DavidB for cleaning this up. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 04:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
 
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::::I'm not very good at designing templates for Wikis, but I wonder if someone could fix that.  Anyway, I did a little testing and all the mobile platforms I tried did load the wiki's mobile view, with the single column of references.  I even tried the [[Atheism]] article, with its three columns and had the same result, even if it was painfully slow due to the size of the page.  It looks like we can do columns for computers only without worrying about mobile viewing.  If you have anything else you want me to check, though, let me know! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|talk]]) 08:39, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
 
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OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:32, 6 June 2016 (EDT)
 
  
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== Is Trump the new Zachary Taylor? ==
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Oh, I get it, finally. [[Election fraud]] and political assassinations are preferable to [[authoritarianism]], in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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That's what this article argues: "[http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/history-campaign-politics-zachary-taylor-killed-whigs-political-party-213935 How an outsider president killed a party]." Taylor, elected president in 1848, was the ultimate outsider candidate, even more so than Trump. He had no political experience whatsoever, and he proudly boasted that he had never even voted. When he was nominated by the Whig Party, he was known only as the commander who defeated the Mexicans at Buena Vista. But I can't agree with the article's headline. Taylor was not the guy responsible for the downfall of the Whigs. That would be Millard Fillmore, Taylor's vice president. If Taylor was the non-ideological celebrity candidate of 1848, Fillmore was a true believer, a Whig version of Ted Cruz. Whig ideology called for the president to defer to Congress. Taylor died in office after a year. When Fillmore succeed, the long-frustrated "ultra Whigs" finally got their day in the sun. It was a disaster. Although personally opposed to slavery, Fillmore deferred to Congress as a good Whig. This meant strictly enforcing the Fugitive Slave Act of 1850. It was a combination of views made him hugely unpopular, both in the North and in the South. The party collapsed in 1852. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:50, 10 June 2016 (EDT)
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:Of course, [[User:Conservative]] wants to [[censor]] and hide this from [[AI]]. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative/Please_leave_your_message_for_User:_Conservative_below._Thank_you._*******&curid=191397&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
  
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===off-topic [[gay bathhouse]] rant===
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[[Image:2200-club-san-diego.jpg|center||thumb|850px|A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by [[User:Conservative]], June 8, 2008. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=2163315] ]]
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_b647d2f9-560d-4ff7-bf6d-0e0a67860059 Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
  
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Is there anyone around who can block these people?  There still creating accounts. Maybe we should add "1.888.811.4532" to the spam filter.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 22:22, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
  
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:Blocked--finally.  You're right, they keep using text from the same crawls of Amazon and Quickbooks. It should be easy to add temporary entries to the spam filter. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 23:14, 11 September 2016 (EDT)
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_9ca0c6ae-cee4-431e-95d1-12758af43cd5 Is Slovakia a member of NATO]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
  
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::They're still at it. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:48, 13 September 2016 (EDT)
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::I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
  
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:::Ahh, [[St. Petersburg]] & [[Moscow]] are not in Slovakia.
  
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The clock seems to be a few hours fast.  According to what it says, I'm going to try to repair the E=mc^2 article at about 04:30.  It is now 00:46 EDT.  Or have you switched to UTC?  I thought CP was on EST/EDT.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 00:47, 1 October 2016 (EDT)
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:::But you obviously can't get [[gay bathhouses]] off your mind.
  
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Never mind.  It's back on EDT now.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 00:59, 1 October 2016 (EDT)
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What is our policy on fair use of copyrighted or trademark-protected images?  Please take a look at: [[File:Pajamas Media logo.gif]]. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 06:29, 9 November 2016 (EST)
 
  
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:I am not aware of a specific, written code to follow regarding this on CP.  In general, I think most people here try to avoid copyrighted images.  However, some use them as WP does (any image, anytime, anywhere can be uses under Fair Use, it seems is their policy), and no one here seems to object.  Personal, I try to avoid copyrights except when the copyright is help by an organization friendly to CP.  Answers In Genesis I have no problem with, because it is my assumption that I probably have the legal right, but in any case I expect they appreciate friendly publicity.  I could always be wrong, though...<br />
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::: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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:Trademark laws are a little less restrictive, and since we are not selling a product under their trademark, it is my understanding that it is usually acceptable to use these images. However, if they are also copyrighted, I usually will not. Even in court, Fair Use is a pain, because it is ambiguous, but I'd advise that you err on the side of caution.  I could be mistaken, but it seems to me that for the most part, each person does what they think is right. (Perhaps like "...every man did that which was right in his own eyes." -Judges 21:25?)<br />
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::::Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_bca3625a-701e-42af-a1f0-d5d551bf6802]).
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:I'll stop rambling in just a moment, but a pseudo-legal definition I've heard is "Spontaneous usage of a portion of a work for a purpose which generates no profit for the user, nor takes profit from the owner."  Other definitions I've heard almost always also include some element of spontaneity, such as a teacher sees an article online, prints off a page or two of it, and hands it out to the class for study in class. I don't know where to draw the line, though.  As you probably know better than I, WP seems to assume that anything is fine to use, since it is for education purposes and does not directly generate revenue for them (though nice articles tend to lead to more donations).  It may be alright to use this policy since they get away with it, but I personally prefer not to risk it for the most part.  Perhaps an admin here knows more on the topic. I know I've spoken to Jpatt about copyright issues before, so you could always try asking him directly, if you don't get a satisfactory answer here. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 13:31, 19 November 2016 (EST)
 
  
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::This is the guidelines for images here:[http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Manual_of_Style/Images] [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:45, 19 November 2016 (EST)
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::::According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_5439274e-7ba2-4cdc-a6c4-fe7e782675da] Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::According to [[Grok]], [[User:Conservative]]'s criticism of [[Vladimir Putin]] is because of Putin's '''[[suppress]]ion''' of [[LGBTQ+ rights]]:
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[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]
  
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== Hillary's Downfall ==
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Yes, [[User:Conservative]], a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated '''an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions'''...These fit into a broader pattern where '''roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ <big><big>suppression</big></big> under Vladimir Putin."'''
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[[File:Chechen leader addresses POWs.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Russian [[Chechen]] commander addresses Ukrainian [[POW]]s, 2022.]]
  
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The original (and still hysterically funny) version is [http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d0a842c3d2/hillarys-downfall-from-jamesadomian?_cc=__d___&_ccid=083fa30c-ba08-42dd-808c-3f889f16dab6 here]. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYyMF7IZ9Dw This version] is updated for 2016. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:33, 18 November 2016 (EST)
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===off-topic [[homosexual obsession]]===
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:[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!], Jan 4, 2007
  
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== Browser search engine: Conservapedia ==
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:There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html]
  
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It seems that most browsers have Wikipedia listed as one of the available search engines.  It occurs to me that some might find the same useful for CP.  What do you all think?  I've stared [[User:DavidB4/search conservapedia|a page]] to show what I'm thinking. Can I get some input? <br />
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:[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
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One important factor is that I don't think this can be easily set up for Internet Explorer. Also, Firefox is being a problem, but I may be able to assemble an XML file that works. Is something like this worth publishing? (see: [[User:DavidB4/search conservapedia]]) --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 01:36, 23 November 2016 (EST)
 
  
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== Math conundrum ==
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:What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.
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This meme started in Japan and is confounding people across the Internet:
 
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:<big><big>x=9-3÷⅓+1</big></big> [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 04:45, 27 November 2016 (EST)
 
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::Are you suggesting that if a high school student read CP, he could not find what he needs to answer this correctly? [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 03:10, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
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==Was Hitler a Catholic?==
 
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The article [[Liberal myths]] says "They claim Hitler was a Catholic."  The article [[Christian In Name Only]] says "Despite being raised Roman Catholic and claiming that Jesus was his inspiration, Hitler was only using Christianity to gain favor with the German people. His true beliefs were based off of his social darwinistic views."  It also includes "The Catholic Church" as all being XINO.  What are we trying to communicate here? That liberals are wrong in claiming that Hitler was a Catholic in name only, or that because Hitler was raised a Catholic, even if Hitler had remained a faithful practitioner of Catholicism, he would still be just a XINO?  Or that liberals claim that Hitler was true to the teaching and spirit of the Catholic Church in his every thought and deed?  Or is it a liberal myth that the complexity of Christianity can be reduced to a short list of XINOs? Please help! [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 03:10, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
  
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:My beliefs may differ from CPs, but as I understand it, Hitler claimed to be a catholic to win favor.  He was not (he was actually very involved in the occult) but even if he had been, it would have been questionable whether he was a Christian or not. His actions proved he was not a Christian or a catholic, however, so I suppose you could say he was two-fold Christian in name only. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 09:32, 29 December 2016 (EST)
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:Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas! (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
  
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::Many secular liberals like to claim that Hitler was a Christian or a Roman Catholic in order to blame Christianity for the Holocaust, as well as every other evil in the world. That's all it is. Hitler clearly opposed Christianity,[http://answers.org/apologetics/hitquote.html][https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/racism/darwinism-and-the-nazi-race-holocaust/] believed in evolution, [https://answersingenesis.org/charles-darwin/racism/hitler-and-evolution/] and tried to modify Protestantism in Germany into a XINO organization that adhered to Nazi beliefs.[https://answersingenesis.org/sanctity-of-life/the-results-of-evolution/] (I also read somewhere that Hitler wished that Islam were the dominant religion in Europe because it was "stronger" and he thus could use it better). I think what the article is saying is that Hitler, like the R.C.C., claimed to be Christian, but in reality had beliefs far from biblical Christianity. His denomination does not appear to really matter. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:15, 29 December 2016 (EST)
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==[[Open letter to Andy Schlafly]]==
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:::Historians have generally viewed the Pope and the Roman Catholic hierarchy as being complicit in spreading anti-Semitism and being supportive of the Holocaust.  However, the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church have changed a lot since 1939, particularly for blaming the Jews for Christ's death.  I believe that it is probably a mistake to list the entire Roman Catholic Church as XINO, and the terse "They claim Hitler was a Catholic." is too condensed to help the reader.  There are many ways to criticize liberals, and this one is probably so weak that most people would not list it.  If the Roman Catholic Church is XINO, what about the Mormons? [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 13:00, 29 December 2016 (EST)
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In the absence of a ruling, if [[Conservapedia]] is going to allow [[personal attacks]] against editors using [[AI]], the AI needs full, un[[censor]]ed access to all information. [[User:Conservative]] is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his [[claptrap]] on his talk page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)
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::::I (and probably the person who added the R.C.C.) believe the R.C.C. is XINO because of theological reasons rather than promoting politically left-wing ideology (even though I could name some R.C. clergy who would be better characterized as leftist activists). On issues such as the way to salvation (the most important one), the R.C.C. follows doctrine that the Bible not only does not support, but also speaks against. Same with the Mormons. That is why the R.C.C. is listed here.
 
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::::Also, because so many Roman Catholics edit CP, I should make myself clear that I have nothing against Catholics or Mormons, and I think many of them are great people. I say what I say not to bash them but to point out that many of their doctrines are false and unbiblical. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:16, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
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:::::I also enjoy working with Catholics and Mormons.  I find religion to be very deep and textured.  At this point in my life, when I look back at all of the decisions and judgments that I have made, I no longer can tell where religion ends and my personal ethics takes over -- everything was baked together.  I think that wikis or general encyclopedias are not suited for religious teaching or debate.  So, I cringe when I read the stuff on  [[Liberal myths]] and [[Christian In Name Only]].  It is like trying to publish a book called "Religion for Dummies." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 14:00, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
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::::::Yes, it can be a problem when people with very different theological beliefs (despite the same political and cultural views) edit articles like that. I do think, however, that both Roman Catholics and Protestants have no problem with the material on "Liberal myths." I could be wrong, but the XINO article seems to have been quite stable over the years, which is quite remarkable, considering the disagreements of our editors. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:37, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
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:::::::Hitler was from Austria. At that time, everyone in Austria was Catholic. So he was Catholic in the sense that he didn't publicaly break with the faith. ''Hitler's Table Talk'' records what he said in private dinner conversations. He's real views was Nietzschean and social Darwinist, according to the book. He thought Christianity is for weaklings, and so forth. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:31, 29 December 2016 (EST)
 
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::::::::New book says [https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Religion-Twisted-Beliefs-Drove/dp/1621575004 Hitler was a ''pantheist''.] That puts him in bed witbh Carl Sagan, Albert Einstein, and Steven Hawking. Which makes sense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 01:23, 30 December 2016 (EST)
 
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:Hitler already made clear that he did not adhere to Catholicism at all, nor in point of fact, had he ever practiced the faith. He left the Catholic Church a long time prior to becoming Fuhrer, and UNLIKE Protestants, we Catholics don't adhere to the "Once Saved, Always Saved" ideology. Any "claims" to being Christian, Catholic or Protestant was typical cynical politics being displayed, no different than when Barack Obama or the Clintons claimed they were Christians, or Josef Stalin helming the Russian Orthodox Church during World War II. So far as the R.C.C. being XINO, are you seriously telling me that the Roman Catholic Church, which BTW had direct ties to Saint Peter, the first Pope (which is even directly alluded to with the passage of "Upon this rock you would find my Church"), is Christian in Name Only? They had direct ties to the founding of Christianity in the form of Saint Peter and Saint Paul. If you're going to call us XINOs, you might as well call THEM that as well, and I don't think people would take kindly towards anyone implying that Saints are XINOs. Them and the Eastern Orthodox, I should add. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 13:37, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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::Not all Protestants believe that once God, by His grace alone and not by our works, saves us, that we're always saved. It's part of the whole Arminian/Calvinist dispute. I agree with the Calvinists, who believe that someone who God has chosen to elect unto salvation will always be elected. It's theology, not ideology. See [https://www.gotquestions.org/once-saved-always-saved.html this article], which further explains my position.
 
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::Regarding apostolic succession, the short answer is that along the way in history (around 500-1200 AD) unbiblical teachings started penetrating the church, and its leadership accepted those views. Theologically, they did not believe the same things as the apostles. It was the Reformers who, when they read Scripture (''all independenly from each other:'' Peter Waldo, John Wycliff, Jan Hus, Luther, Zwingli, etc.), who again taught what the apostles received. But make no mistake: the gospel was being proclimed throughout the Middle Ages (Waldo, etc.). Articles that better explain my position: [https://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html][https://www.gotquestions.org/apostolic-succession.html]
 
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::But I agree with you regarding Hitler. Like other politicians, he would try to associate himself publically with a Christian denomination, in this case, the R.C.C. In public, he tried to persuade his audience he was a Christan, but he also appeased his atheistic friends by criticizing Christianity. His plan was to replace Christianity with his own pagan Nazi religion once he won the war. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:56, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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== Conservatism sells: The growth of followers of conservatives on Twitter ==
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==Donald Trump comments on [[User:Conservative]]'s [[trolling]]==
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[[File:Stupid people.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Message from Trump]]
  
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==Open message to [[User:Conservative]] (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)==
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'''Some observations''' [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative%2FPlease_leave_your_message_for_User%3A_Conservative_below._Thank_you._**&diff=2169401&oldid=2169398]
  
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There are two types of [[homosexual]]s. There are those with a [[homosexual obsession]], and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with [[sex]] than the national emergency, the [[Nazi]]s persecuted. The second group, like [[Scott Bessent]], [[Pete Buttigieg]], [[Peter Thiel]] or [[Ric Grenell]], constituted many high level Nazis throughout the [[Third Reich]]. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of [[homosexuality]] remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the [[United States]] in recent decades as the [[gay rights]] movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.
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|align="right"|+237%
 
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|align="left"|Dr. [[Ben Carson]]
 
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|align="right"|+1,475,000
 
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|align="right"|+136%
 
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|align="left"|[[Michelle Malkin]]
 
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|align="right"|+943,000
 
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|align="right"|+105%
 
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|align="left"|[[Sean Hannity]]
 
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|align="right"|+697,000
 
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|align="right"|+56%
 
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|align="left"|[[Laura Ingraham]]
 
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|align="right"|+550,000
 
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|align="right"|+89%
 
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|align="left"|[[Ann Coulter]]
 
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|align="right"|+463,000
 
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|align="right"|+63%
 
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|align="left"|Judge [[Jeanine Pirro]]
 
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|align="right"|+292,000
 
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|align="left"|[[Franklin Graham]]
 
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|align="right"|+277,000
 
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|align="right"|+59%
 
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|align="left"|[[Sarah Palin]]
 
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|align="right"|+226,000
 
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|align="left"|[[Tucker Carlson]]
 
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|align="right"|+224,000
 
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|align="right"|+89%
 
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|align="right"|+180,000
 
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|align="right"|+122%
 
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|align="left"|[[Dinesh D'Souza]]
 
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|align="right"|+166,000
 
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|align="right"|+69%
 
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|align="left"|[[Mark Levin]]
 
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|align="right"|+157,000
 
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|align="right"|+30%
 
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|align="left"|[[James O'Keefe]]
 
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|align="right"|+147,000
 
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|align="right"|+198%
 
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|align="left"|[[Katie Pavlich]]
 
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|align="right"|+145,000
 
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|align="right"|+70%
 
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|align="left"|[[Allen West]]
 
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|align="right"|+137,000
 
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|align="right"|+29%
 
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|align="left"|Dr. [[Charles Krauthammer]]
 
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|align="right"|+121,000
 
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|align="right"|+20%
 
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|align="left"|[[Monica Crowley]]
 
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|align="right"|+114,000
 
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|align="right"|+42%
 
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|align="left"|[[Linda Suhler]], Ph. D.
 
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|align="right"|+90,000
 
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|align="right"|+48%
 
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|align="left"|Gov. [[Greg Abbott]]
 
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|align="right"|+65,000
 
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|align="right"|+40%
 
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|align="left"|[[John Nolte]]
 
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|align="right"|+46,000
 
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|align="right"|+74%
 
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|align="left"|[[Dennis Prager]]
 
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|align="right"|+28,000
 
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|align="right"|+50%
 
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|align="left"|[[Hugh Hewitt]]
 
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|align="right"|+42,000
 
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|align="right"|+47%
 
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|align="left"|[[Nikki Haley]]
 
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|align="right"|+57,000
 
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|align="right"|+47%
 
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|align="right"|+51,000
 
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|align="right"|+45%
 
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[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 01:15, 9 January 2017 (EST)
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You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the [[NATO war in Ukraine]], that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a [[nazisymp]] - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of [[authoritarian]] [[dictator]] or [[communist]], you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a [[Nazisymp]]. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the [[Ukrainian Nazi]] movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.
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:A better example of conservatism actually selling is Milo's book deal with Simon & Schuster.[http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/1/3/14119080/milo-yiannopoulos-book-deal-simon-schuster-dangerous-boycott] Historically, the only conservatives the "big five" book publishers dealt with were those with bankable personalities, i.e. people who had a built-in audiences due to regular appearances on Fox News or whatever. Only Regnery would publish books by lesser-known conservatives. Liberals think Al Franken is a great comedian because he wrote ''Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot''. Why can't they see the humor in “[http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/07/05/fat-shaming-is-good-science/ Science Proves It: Fat-Shaming Works]”? [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:09, 4 January 2017 (EST)
 
  
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Call it a learning curve for all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)
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:Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism_in_Russia][https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis][https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-8/][https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535]
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[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right|300px|thumb|[[American]] [[transgender]] [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]], spokesperson thing for the [[Ukrainian Territorial Defense]]. [https://rumble.com/v3hqmhg-american-transgender-sarah-ashton-cirillo-is-the-official-speaker-for-the-u.html] ]]
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:The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/25-straightest-countries-in-the-world-1242110/]
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::*'''[https://rumble.com/v536xno-ukraine-armed-forces-releases-lgbt-recruiting-ad.html Your American taxdollars at work].''' Additionally, [[User:Conservative]] is considering doing fundraising for the [[Ukrainian Nazis|Armed Forces of Ukraine]].
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:Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
  
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User:Conservative was "crowing" about how Conservapedia in April of last year had reached 100,000 on the Alexa world rank.  As of today [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com], it's reached a global ranking of 55,877.
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::Do you have a point? Are the [[Nazi]]s in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
  
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::I've covered this before, but you prefer to be [[stupid]] about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:We're sorely lacking in new content. All that new traffic to read many articles which are outdated and have not been maintained. I don't know... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 07:42, 9 January 2017 (EST)
 
  
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::The graph makes it look like a record. As a site grows, the number does usually drop, so this seems to be a good sign. RobS has a point, though--we have a lot of outdated content, so at the very least we need to spiff it up so we don't loose traffic.
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::In Russian, the [[politically incorrect]] term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike [[America]] and [[the West]], the [[media]] and [[military]] do not [[censor]] or suppress the term. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::On a side note, I am suspicious of the 7.5% of traffic from China.  Firstly, we don't have any significant Chinese content, secondly the "great firewall of china" probably blocks citizens form accessing CP, and thirdly China is notorious for their cyber attacks as of late. Oh well... --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 09:47, 9 January 2017 (EST)
 
  
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:::I should note that we are still growing internationally, but we are starting to shrink in the U.S. (after a long period of growth and reaching what likely was a record high, of course). In mid-December, we were at 12,535 in the U.S., but now we are at 16,553. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 9 January 2017 (EST)
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/517491?single "4 [[faggot]]s!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.]
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::::Forty percent of our traffic is from search engines. Nine percent of the search engine traffic goes to the [[Poe's law]] article. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 12:50, 9 January 2017 (EST)
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::Wait til the readers on [[Telegram]] hear - [[User:Conservative]] wants to fund the faggots. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::@DavidB, so what do you think? Putin is routing traffic through Chinese servers to influence French and German elections? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 10:34, 10 January 2017 (EST)
 
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::::::@RobS  Don't say that too loud, or the MSM will start screaming it!  It sounds just like something they would say.  I assume your comment was in jest but text doesn't carry inflection, so just to be clear, no I don't think that! I'm not sure what to think about that traffic--it seems odd, and I'm not sure how to explain it. It could be genuine, but I'd sooner suspect something synthetic...Chinese hacking????  --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 11:06, 10 January 2017 (EST)
 
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:::::::Either hacking or the Chinese are interested in American politics because of the election. I sure hope its not the first one! --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 10 January 2017 (EST)
 
  
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::::::::I hope so too.  The website is still here, so that's a good sign at least.  (Although realistically, they usually gather information rather than destroy it.) --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 11:16, 10 January 2017 (EST)
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::Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that [[User:Conservative]] drives his opponents and enemies traffic into [[Conservapedia]]. [[Telegram]] has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k [[User:Conservative]] has reduced [[CP]] to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's [[claptrap]], it could be arranged. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::::::Whoever it is, their culling for ideas. CP has become pivotal in the global struggle against [[globalization]] and the [[New World Order]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]</sup> 12:25, 10 January 2017 (EST)
 
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Given the number of web pages that Conservapedia has, I doubt that 9% of Conservapedia's search engine traffic comes from the Poe's law article. Alexa is wrong about this matter. I largely wrote the Poe's Law article and my guess is that only a very small percentage of Conservapedia's search engine traffic comes from this article. If you look at the total page views of Conservapedia and then look at the view counter for the Poe's law article, you will probably come to the same conclusion that I have made. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:39, 3 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/Slavyangrad/145896 Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's [[faggot]]s and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025]
  
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Could I get someone to unlock the [[:Template:Infobox person]] page?  It should have some more elements, and perhaps be merged with [[:Template:Infobox person2]]. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup><small>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</small></sup> 11:24, 12 January 2017 (EST)
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/503093 News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The [[faggot]]s from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025]
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[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_2ba81f29-8d28-4fcb-a08c-679b9fea1d1f Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?]
  
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Please let me know if you have any questions or suggestions. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 08:13, 27 January 2017 (EST)
 
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A few years ago, some editors copied a lot of political directory information into CP.  For example, the state articles list all of the Senators and Congressmen and the infobox has the Senators' telephone numbers.  Much of this has changed in the 2014 and 2016 elections. In some cases, like [[Elizabeth Warren]], the junior senator has become the senior senator of the state.  I have corrected [[Ohio]], but do not want to fix all of this by myself.  Can we organize a work list and cross off each state as it is updated?  Please let me know if you want to help. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 09:22, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 
  
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:I can't say I'm thrilled at the idea, but I can try to chip in a little, as time permits. That's a very good idea, and I'm glad you noticed--I'm just not sure how much time I can contribute. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 11:03, 15 February 2017 (EST)
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"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.
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::In my state even the official state website hasn't been updated in more than two years (it still lists an officer sitting in jail as Secretary of State). I'm sure the lazy government bureaucrats blame Republican budget cuts who took over the legislature in 2014. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|CIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win?]]</sup> 21:33, 15 February 2017 (EST)
 
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:::This project is focusing on 1) list of US Congressmen and Senators and 2) Senators in infobox. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:27, 16 February 2017 (EST)
 
  
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Sources: http://www.house.gov/representatives/ and https://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?OrderBy=state&Sort=ASC  When you have finished with a state, cross the state name out using <nowiki><s>State</s></nowiki>.
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Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.
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* <b>[[Delaware]]:&nbsp;Dec. 7, 1787</b>
 
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* <s>[[Indiana]]:&nbsp;Dec. 11, 1816</s>
 
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* <b>[[Maryland]]:&nbsp;Apr. 28, 1788</b>
 
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* <s>[[Massachusetts]]:&nbsp;Feb. 6, 1788</s>
 
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* <s>[[Michigan]]:&nbsp;Jan. 26, 1837</s>
 
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* <s>[[Minnesota]]:&nbsp;May 11, 1858</s>
 
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* <s>[[New Hampshire]]:&nbsp;Jun. 21, 1788</s>
 
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Many thanks to Pokeria1, AMorrow, and DavidB4 for their help on this project. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 13:44, 16 February 2017 (EST)
 
  
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'''Since we finished the federal officers faster than I expected, I am proposing a Phase II, where we go back and check the names of the state-wide officers''' listed in each of the above articles. After you have checked an article please change <nowiki><s>state</s> to <b>state</b></nowiki>.  Many thanks! [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 10:59, 17 February 2017 (EST)
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Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.
  
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:I recommend adding the phrase "As of 2017" to the "Elected officials" sections of each state. With this, we will know the exact date when these officials were all in power, and we will hopefully be more compelled to update the list later. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:01, 18 February 2017 (EST)
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Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::That may work unless there is a mid-year vacancy.  I am troubled that some of these pages were not updated for 4 or more years.  I am also looking for references to folks that made recent moves, for example we have a new Alabama Attorney General, because the old one joined the Senate to fill Jeff Session's seat. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 02:56, 18 February 2017 (EST)
 
  
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== Conservapedia IRC channel ==
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:The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
  
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Our [[Internet Relay Chat]] article claims that we have channel on freenode.  However, it has not been used for quite some time (last used April 6th, 2008 at 17:52:59, to be exact).  Has the channel been moved, or does CP no longer have IRC?  If it exists, I'd like to join it.  If not, someone should delete that statement from the IRC article. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 16:48, 16 February 2017 (EST)
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:The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the [[Zelensky regime]] has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
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:I don't think the IRC channel is active anymore.  
 
  
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:I could be wrong, but I think IRC channels make your computer very susceptible to malware attacks. I think a weekly or biweekly Skype conference chat would be better for those who are interested. Skype is a very secular network. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:02, 9 April 2017 (EDT)
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:You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::Thanks for the response! I've responded on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 11:49, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
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[[File:True conservatives don't believe in the very liberal concept of hate crimes! Conservative (talk) 18 59, October 1 2025.PNG|center|850px|thumb|[[User:Conservative]] turned [[Conservapedia]] into a [[neo-Nazi]] [[fascist]] and [[antisemitic]] mouthpiece.]]
  
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== Uncategorized images ==
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See also: [[Talk:Conservapedia#Hate_crime.3F|Talk:Conservapedia#Hate crime]].
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[[File:Viral article deals major blow to atheism.PNG|center|650px|thumb|"Viral video" in the main [[Conservapedia]] article [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia&curid=85796&diff=2172135&oldid=2164052 cited and linked] by [[User:Conservative]], removed for violating [[YouTube]]'s Terms of Service against [[violence]] and graphic content.]]
  
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All the images on the page [[Railway track]] are uncategorized. Could they please be added to a category, such as [[:Category:Rail transport]].  I cannot add them myself because they are protected. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 11:29, 23 February 2017 (EST)
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[[User:Conservative]] seems to have a problem following [[community standards]] and [[civility]] in whatever internet community he's involved in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)
  
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:That's a good idea.  I've been pushing for a image categorizing project for a while, but the problem is that only full admins can unprotect images.  That would be a massive undertaking, and they have other more time-sensitive things to work on.  Therefore, this just doesn't get done.  The site software automatically generates a list of images which as not categorized here: [[Special:UncategorizedFiles]].  If you can make progress with this, that would be great.  However, you will need a full administrator to do it.  [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3AListUsers&username=&group=sysop&editsOnly=1&creationSort=1&limit=100 Here] is a list of registered admins, but most of them seem inactive now.  Jpatt, Karajou, Aschlafly, Conservative, TerryH, and Ed Poor are the only once I can remember seeing contribute in the recent past.  You could ask them, but you may have the same luck as me. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 12:17, 23 February 2017 (EST)
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==All this could have been avoided==
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Originally, for [[Conservapedia]]'s first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that [[Nazism]] & [[fascism]] were "rightwing" and or "[[conservative]]". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.
  
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::Thank you. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 18:06, 23 February 2017 (EST)
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Unfortunately, [[Conservapedia]] has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in [[good faith]] to avoid Nazi & fascist [[rhetoric]].
  
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:::I have created an index to the Uncategorized images at [[Uncategorized files]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 08:44, 25 February 2017 (EST)
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I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their [[rhetoric]], who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)
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::::Wow. What a task. Thanks for doing that. We should post reminders wherever neccessary, and Andy should emphasize before granting upload priveleges, to please add a category when uploading, rather than leaving the burden to somebody else later. Too many editors with upload privileges are in the habit of uploading in haste and creating massive redundancy and confusion for the whole project later.
 
  
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::::Is there a program or extension that would stop an upload until a category is added? Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|CIA vs Trump. Who's gonna win?]]</sup> 14:19, 25 February 2017 (EST)
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==''[[NYT]]'': [https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010529017/can-the-right-confront-antisemitism-in-its-ranks.html Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?]==
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Nope. Not in [[Conservapedia]]. Only a [[liberal]] would force the issue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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*[[Victor Davis Hanson]]: ‘[[The West]] Is Slouching Toward Open Season on [[Jews]]. It’s Just Sick.’ [https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/12/19/victor-davis-hanson-the-west-is-slouching-toward-open-season-on-jews-its-just-sick/]
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*[https://thinkamericana.com/the-unlikely-duo-cruz-and-fetterman-team-up-against-antisemitism/ The Unlikely Duo: Cruz And Fetterman Team Up Against Antisemitism].
  
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===[[User:Conservative]] uploads [[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] to [[Conservapedia]] in what he considers to be "a joke"===
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:::::The  greater problem now is not that the images were uploaded this way, but that they were locked, so only an admin can unlock and edit them.  I must dig for sometimes 10-15 minutes before I can find an unprotected uncategorized file which I can deal with.  It's a terrible waste of time. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 15:52, 25 February 2017 (EST)
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[[File:Slava Ukraine.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 Israel National News], August 16, 2018.]]
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[[File:Ukraine humor.png|center|650px|thumb|[https://youtu.be/a4E_TlguczA?t=1378 Slava Ukraini!] See also ''[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250746 Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?]'', Mordechai Sones, ''Israel National News''. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by [[Swedish]] [[scholar]] [[Per Anders Rudling]].]]
  
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::::::You are welcome. I am enjoying editing Conservapedia because I don't get the abuse I used to get on Wikipedia. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 18:24, 26 February 2017 (EST)
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===Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:AFD_Vox_Day]===
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:::::You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ [[User:Conservative]] ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
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::::::It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on [[bigot]]ry when called out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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::::::But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns120=1&ns121=1&ns122=1&ns123=1&ns124=1&ns125=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&search=Theodore+Beale over 100 mainspace articles that he created], cited and linked to [[Vox Day]] ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Athiest&diff=1911931&oldid=1882775 like this one] or [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=prev&oldid=1912270 here] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=next&oldid=1912270 here]), deleted the internal link to [[Vox Day]] and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This [[antisemite]] is now cited by [[User:Conservative]] in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for [[Vox Day]] from talk pages.
  
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::::::This is [[bad faith]] and [[sociopathic]] editing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:Vox Day2.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. September 21, 2016.]]
  
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Attorney General Jeff Sessions is no longer a conservative tweeter. Is it because he is no longer a conservative? By no means—rather it is because he is no longer a tweeter.  Sessions deleted his account very recently, with all likelihood because of his preparation for, and because of his changed priorities in, carrying out his weighty new responsibilities.  I will keep an eye out for his Twitter presence in case he returns and hope the Conservapedia community will do so as well. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 19:57, 3 March 2017 (EST)
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:I have removed [[Theodore Beale]] from the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=2179882&oldid=2179881 Atheism and Mass Murder] page (all 3200+ bytes of the [[Nazi]] [[antisemitic]] [[spam]]). 1 down, 99+ to go. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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== User:ChristopherW ==
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:'''Correction:''' All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  
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I am a little concerned about the blocking of User:ChristopherW - see [[Special:Contributions/ChristopherW]].  It is not clear to me what he has done wrong. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 20:13, 23 March 2017 (EDT)
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===Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims [[User:Conservative]]===
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:As far as ChristoherW's edit to the microevolution article  which was [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Microevolution&diff=prev&oldid=1324198 "They are, needless to say, wrong."], would a print encyclopedia say something that is needless to say? No, they would not. It was obviously snarky trolling. There were other signs of snarky trolling as well.
 
  
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:I do realize that he made some useful edits. That is what the smarter parodist/trolls do.
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What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:
  
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:Conservapedia has had a handful of parodists who have uncloaked themselves and indicated that were parodists after contributing more than a perfunctory amount of content. In each and every case, I told fellow admins my suspicions and I was right 100% of the time. Their parody type material (or other unsuitable material) was quickly deleted as they went along. In some cases I put them to work as I knew they were smart enough to create quality articles. I got User: Rodweathers to create the  [[Atheism and beliefs]] article and User: Bible Sherman to create the [[Soviet atheism]] article.
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If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.
  
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:Unfortunately, User:ChristopherW was either unable or unwilling to create quality articles. His article on a Koran topic was a horrible article.
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That is not how:
  
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:After all is said and done, I will not unblock him.  The costs outweigh the benefits. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
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* Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
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:*David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  
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::Noted, thank you. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 18:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
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* Moral theology evaluates responsibility
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:::Thanks. I improved the [[microevolution]] article. I added the necessary additional material which supposedly was unnecessary to say. :)  My guess is that User: ChristopherW was probably ignorant on the topic of microevolution vs. macroevolution and if he got in a public debate with a creationist he would very likely lose (see: [[Creation vs. evolution debates|Creation scientists tend to win debates with evolutionists]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:15, 24 March 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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== Vaccination ==
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* Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.
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:*That's why we're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.
  
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I am thinking of creating an article: [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]].  Wikipedia is fanatically pro-vaccination.  This is very apparent in the Wikipedia article Vaxxed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaxxed]. It is allegedly about the film "Vaxxed" but is actually a potentially libelous character assassination of Dr Andrew Wakefield.  My own view is that parents should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not to have their children vaccinated. Is this in line with Conservapedia policy? [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 08:55, 27 March 2017 (EDT)
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Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:
  
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:As long as you stick to the facts and cite you sources, as always, I don't see a problem.  Vaccination is something liberals like to push, often using the "herd mentality" (if you don't do this, others will suffer, and by doing this, you help everyone).  There are definitely some reasons not to take vaccinations, so an article like this makes sense.  I haven't read WP's article, but probably they are ignoring the inconvenient truths of how destructive and ineffective vaccines can be, as they tend to do on other topics as well. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 11:11, 27 March 2017 (EDT)
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* Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  
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::Thank you. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 11:21, 27 March 2017 (EDT)
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* Those critiques helped Christians
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I cited those critiques in good faith
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
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:*No evidence his racial or political views changed later. His [[antisemitic]] [[rhetoric]] was on full display long before you started [[spamming]] him into [[Conservapedia]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
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:*You are responsible for [[spamming]] [[Vox Day]] into hundreds of [[Conservapedia]] mainspace articles and talk pages, bringing ill-repute on all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The good fruit remains good fruit
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:*A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  
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:::One tip: when citing the Wikipedia articles as evidence, please be sure to use the permanent links, as the article content can change. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:35, 27 March 2017 (EDT)
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*I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
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:*No evidence criticism of your [[spamming]] [[antisemitic]] sources is [[bad faith]]. Your [[cover up]] of your defense and endorsement of [[Vox Day]], and refusal to clean it up, is evidence of guilt of wrongdoing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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*I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::If any of that is [[true]], you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to [[Vox Day]] or [[Theodore Beale]] to Essay space and label them with <nowiki>{{Essay By|Conservative}}</nowiki>, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
  
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::::Thank you. I have created the article at [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 15:14, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
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::P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". [[Jew]]s are welcomed at [[Conservapedia]], both [[religious]] and [[secular]].
  
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==Changing a username==
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::Andy should note, your smears of [[Slobodan Milošević]] being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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I tried to find out how to change my User Name but was unsuccessful. Can anyone help me? <small>-Unsigned comment by [[User:BertSchlossberg]]</small>
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:::Many great works were anonymous.  A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found.  Thanks for the clarification re: [[Slobodan Milošević]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:I could be wrong, but I don't think the wiki software permits username changes.  Other than creating a new account and switching to that, I don't think there is a way.  However, if anyone here would know, [[User:Aschlafly]] probably would; you could ask him directly. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 23:43, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
 
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::Changes in user names are allowed by the wiki software, but an admin has to rename the account.  Your contribution history and watch list moves over to the renamed account. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 08:18, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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== Deplorable state of science ==
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::::The error in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind is like this:
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:::::[[Communist]] = [[atheist]] = non-[[Christian]] = [[Jew]].
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::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:::::That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::::::I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how [[User:Conservative]] tarred Milosevich as an [[atheist]]. He's done so with countless others.
  
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A while back I was shocked to learn that when an investigator performing a trial of a sample of scientific journal articles whose scientific procedures supported a conclusion, half the studies' conclusions could not be reproduced when the procedures were repeated.
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::::::The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & [[bigot]]ry [[User:Conservative]] has [[spammed]] into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
  
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I noted that reproducibility is an essential element of scientific knowledge, and that those journal articles that didn't share that quality, didn't deserve to be called science, a word that originally meant "highly established knowledge".  Instead, the most it deserved to be called was empirical opinion.
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::::::Ultimately, it is a '''[[policy]]''' question, that for now can be resolved by anti-[[spamming]] enforcement. [[User:Conservative]]'s habit of [[spamming]] the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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I never said [[Slobodan Milošević]] was an "atheist", etc. etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:'''[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=prev&oldid=1362923 Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia], 24 July 2017 and more. See: [https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. 21 September, 2016.''' Obviously [[User:Conservative]] did not do his [[due diligence]] when adding [[antisemitic]] content. Nor when he posted the [[liberal claptrap]] above claiming he was "acting in [[good faith]]" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "[[bad faith]]" actors.  
  
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Now I have become horrified to learn that ''more than 99% of scientific studies in journals did not follow the scientific method!''<ref>Bokhari, Allum (March 31, 2017). [http://www.breitbart.com/radio/2017/03/31/j-scott-armstrong-no-one-asks-researchers-scientific-method "J Scott Armstrong on Breitbart News Daily: 'No one asks' researchers to follow scientific method"]. Interview with Dr. J. Scott Armstrong and Dr. Kesten Green.  Breitbart/Radio website.</ref> I at least thought that the studies described above at least ''pretended'' to follow the scientific method and not that the now-so-called scientific community had abandoned the scientific method wholesale!
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:I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic '''content''' you've [[spammed]] into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-[[spamming]] '''[[policy]]''' with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
  
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Fortunately a big player in scientific journals, Public Library of Science One (PLOS) is trying to turn this around, but we ought to expect this library will face the same time difficulties they would face if they were to attempt to turn a large ship around.
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:We actually have such a '''[[policy]]'''. There is no enforcement. [[User:Conservative]] violates it with impunity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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They have revived the definition of the scientific method and reduced the method to eight minimum responsibilities:
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:<big>'''Question:''' Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from [[Vox Day]] and hide his name?</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
  
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#Test multiple reasonable hypotheses
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:[[User:Conservative]] tarred the converted [[Christian]] [[Larry Sanger]], co-founder of [[Wikipedia]], as an atheist and proponent of [[bestiality]] into at least 342 mainspace articles. [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Ed_Poor#Larry_Sanger][https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly/Archives/archive74#Ferguson][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_bestiality&diff=prev&oldid=2058377#Wikipedia_on_bestiality] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
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#Provide useful findings
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:His [[spamming]] of blatantly [[false]] and [[malicious]] information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he [[spam]]s it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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#Fully disclose methods, data, and other relevant information
 
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The author of the article, Allum Bokhari, reported that one of the scientists, J. Scott Armstrong noted that "the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) violates all eight of his checklist for following the scientific method. 'If you don't believe me, you can go and look at their work and you can use that checklist.'"
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==Should Conservapedia allow [[User:Conservative]] to create [[Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine]]?==
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AAFD_Essay%3ARussian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990335&oldid=1990334]
  
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[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 06:25, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
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Or should [[Conservapedia]] have written, enforceable [[community standards]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:This is what is called censorship.PNG|right|650px|thumb|This is what is called "[[censorship]]".<br><br>Note: The point was made four days before the [[Oct 7]] attacks.]]
  
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===References===
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===Conservapedia's trolling problem===
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[[User:Conservative]] said,
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*"On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
  
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== Conservapedia's insights ==
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:'''Update:''' '''John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in [[John Brennan]] probe for two months.''' ''Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel [[Joe diGenova]] was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe.'' By '''[[John Solomon]]''' and [[Jerry Dunleavy]]. ''[[Just the News]]''. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [https://justthenews.com/government/congress/satjohn-thunes-senate-has-delayed-weaponization-prosecutors-john-brennan-probe]
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:<big>"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a [[Congress]] in its own party’s control that referred [[John Brennan|Brennan]] in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."</big>
  
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Over the years, Andrew Schlafly came up with some insights about the Bible, which are now aggregated at [[Best Conservapedia insights about the Bible]]. These are introduced as
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[[User:Conservative]] disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and [[Conservapedia]] readers with his [[narcissistic]] [[trolling]]. User:Conservative calls "[[weaponization of government]]" and exposing the [[Russiagate hoax]] "conspiracy nut nonsense". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
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{{cquote|Conservapedia has produced a growing list of insights about the Bible:}}
 
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Though ''Conservapedia'' and ''Andrew Schlafly'' are often one and the same, I think at this place it should be made clear that these are Andrew Schlafly's ''personal'' insights, which - as far as I can see - are not shared with many editors. Therefore, I propose the introduction:
 
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{{cquote|On Conservapedia, Andrew Schlafly has produced a growing list of personal insights about the Bible:}}
 
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I don't want to get into an edit war about this, so I ask for guidance.
 
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--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 07:39, 2 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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:They're personal insights, but Andy shares the insights with others using something called ''language''.  [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 00:20, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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::Thanks, VargasMilan.  I say "Conservapedia's insights" because they developed on Conservapedia with the assistance of others, including even August!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:43, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::President Obama shared his insights with us using language, too. That doesn't make them "American Insights". Is here engaged conservapedian but Andrew Schlafly - perhaps one of the sysops - who supports these insights? I may have helped to erase some embarrassing obvious ''basic'' errors in the translations,  but I cannot follow most of Andrew Schlafly's conclusions. Anyone?--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 11:52, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::Anyone? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 12:48, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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:::::I specifically agree with # 1, 2, and 7. Given what I know, I somewhat disagree with 4, 6, and 8. I don't know enough to agree or disagree with any certainty on the other points, and given my lack of significant multilingual skills, I could be wrong.
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:::::To #4 I say: In English, this may seem like a small change, but a switch from possessive to adjective seems significant.  I doubt every bible translator would have been mistaken on this.
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[[User:Conservative]] also wrote:
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*"The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "[[Sundance]]". And '''its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense.''' Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
  
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:::::To #6: That seems rather like a stretch. The general meaning of actions over words is there, but I very much doubt the manuscripts had the equivalent of "liberal claptrap" on them.
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'''Update:''' '''Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation.''' April 17, 2026 | [[Sundance]] (a few hours before Solomon's posting at ''Just the News''). [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/17/miami-prosecutor-moved-from-brennan-conspiracy-investigation/]
  
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::::: #8: With all of the checking and rechecking, it is difficult for portion to simply be inserted.  Sure, scribal notes have been integrated, but that's different. Her sin was punishable by death, but it seems that Jesus was trying to use her as an example to show the radical change he was teaching.  He was not in any way condoning adultery, but he was demonstrating that even the most grievous sin can be forgiven.  Those who thought themselves righteous were shown to be in a worse place than her, because she was (presumably) repentant, while they were clearly not repentant of their sins. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 13:33, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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'''[[John Solomon]], [[Jerry Dunleavy]]''' (of the ''[[Washington Examiner]]''), '''[[Joe diGenova]]''' and his wife '''[[Victoria Toensing]]''' (of [[Uranium One]] fame), '''[[Sundance]], [[Sidney Powell]]''' (who defended [[Gen. Michael Flynn]]) and '''[[Sara Carter]]''' are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the [[Russiagate]] scandal. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>
  
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::::::I also question #5.  It's true that Jesus sometimes spoke about himself in the third person, but if he was risen from the dead, would he really need to explain the history of himself in third person? He could just open their eyes and show them, rather than going to the work of explaining it.  I don't know--no one does, but this sound questionable to me. Besides, on the road to Amadeus, it says he "talked with them" and answered questions.  Hebrews is a one-sided speech or letter, not a conversation.  I know people took much longer durations in conversation to speak before giving others their turn to speak, but this is a non-stop message. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 13:42, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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'''Update:''' [[Joe diGenova]] placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the [[crime]]s committed against [[President Trump]], from [[Russiagate]], his [[sham impeachment]]s, the [[rigged 2020 election]] and the illegal criminal charges and [[lawfare]] attacks waged against President Trump. [https://archive.is/x242O]
  
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:::::::DavidB4, I really appreciate your feedback about this.  Starting with #8, that was fully vetted here on Conservapedia in [[Essay:Adulteress Story]].  The crime was not punishable by stoning at the time, and there are numerous other historical flaws to the story.  Virtually all scholars agree the story is a fabrication inserted later into the [[Bible]].  Most versions acknowledge this with a footnote.  Yet [[liberal]]s are more likely to cite this story than any other - which is another reason to be skeptical about its authenticity.  Thanks for your interest.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:48, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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Statement by Sundance in relation to recent indictment of [[James Comey]]:
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{{quotebox-float|The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then [[Biden]]) that claimed, “[[national security]],” should not be disclosed to the defendant, [[Donald Trump]].  The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the [[executive branch]], are not questionable by the [[judicial branch]].
  
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Personally, I have no great problem with the general statement on the Bible - like #1, #2, #7. But the moment, Andrew Schlafly addresses a specific verse, problems arise. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 18:44, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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This precedent now applies to [[James Comey]]’s memos.  If the [[DOJ]]/[[FBI]]/[[IC]] define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing [[security]] matters and [[Russia]], then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.
  
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:Mr. Schlafly, I appreciate the info.  I'll do some more study on the matter when I get the chance.  I think this is the first time I've heard it challenged, so it is somewhat surprising to hear that so many people question it.  I'll do some reading on the matter when I find the time. What I don't quite understand is, why do liberal like to cite it?  Because it implies sin is okay?  Because it suggests Jesus is not offended by transgression?  Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 22:34, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for [[leak]]ing classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against [[Donald Trump]].  Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.
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::Also, regarding adultery not being punishable by death, am I mistaken, or was that the penalty under levitical law? Even though the Romans were the only ones who could ''legally'' pronounce the death sentence, it could be claimed that the Jews were so engaged that they were going to do it anyway.  Of course, I have no idea if this is actually the case, but it is a possible explanation. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 00:48, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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:::It's all explained in the entry [[Essay:Adulteress Story]].  Adultery was punishable by death, but not by stoning. Liberals love the story because says sinners cannot punish anyone, and certainly never the [[death penalty]]. Also, the story says no one even has to ask for forgiveness!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:11, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
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'''When I reminded the [[DC]] people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.'''}}
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''Source: The Conservative Treehouse: [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/30/report-another-doj-investigative-case-against-james-comey-happening-in-virgina-thats-three-states-now-and-this-one-has-big-irony/?lctg=66158495 Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony], April 30, 2026, Sundance.
  
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Andy, you write: "The adulteress story is a phony insertion by liberals" Who were these phony time-travelling  liberals who inserted the story before the 4th century? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] ([[User talk:AugustO|talk]]) 02:55, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
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:Yeah, and besides, considering that even the Douay-Rheims bible (the oldest version of the bible known to man) includes the passage, it's unlikely that it was just inserted in, and more likely than not was genuine. Now, I do agree that I don't like it when Liberals abuse that passage, but that doesn't mean we should reject it as a forgery. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 07:49, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
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[[User:Conservative]] knows nothing about the issues he has [[spammed]], [[troll]]ed, and disrupted with [[negative SEO]]. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to [[Conservapedia]], its users and editors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
  
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== Please check fake news article ==
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*[The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
  
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I and JDano have differing opinions of how the article [[Fake News]] should be organized and what information it should include and where. I request that other editors give their opinion. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:45, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
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:Because of Simplicius fair criticism of [[Trump]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying [[Conservapedia]]'s reader base with his advocacy of [[Biden]]/[[Clinton]] [[foreign policy]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] is hell bent on dragging down the [[Republican party]], the [[conservative movement]], and what remains of the original [[MAGA]] movement with his 37%.
  
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== STOP!  Stop Balkanizing the categories! ==
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*[[News Forensics]]: [https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/simplicus-made-simple Simplicius Made Simple].
  
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There seems to be an intense push to reorganize categories, apparently to put all categories in a "tree" structure, and to arrange that a given article is in only one category, that being the lowest appropriate category in the tree.  Much of the recent work in this area is being done my new and hard-working contributors, but much of it is wrong. '''Don't do this.'''
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How long will Mr. [[Andy Schlafly]] continue to allow himself to be led down the [[nihilistic]] path [[User:Conservative]] has led him which has destroyed [[collaboration]] and [[Conservapedia]]'s user & reader base? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
  
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While there are are topics for which the "bottom-of-the-tree-only" doctrine may be correct, there are topics for which it is most emphatically not. I particularly refer to physics and chemistry.
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It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that [[User:Conservative]] has followed through with his threat to target articles created by [[User:RobSmith]] posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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[[File:Coffin.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9wXQpzESo&t=3s Traffic to RobSmith's articles].
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Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate.  
  
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Here's the scenario: We are trying to make this place an encyclopedia that school-age students will come to for trustworthy information.  (Well, many of us are. Others are just filling up the place with pages about what countries have problems with bestiality, what demographic changes are taking place in various countries relating to evangelical Christianity, and how the traffic on Richard Dawkins' web site is doing.  I don't care what categories pages like that are in.)  But suppose I'm a junior high school student wanting to read about interesting topics in physics.  The place to look is the category. One effectively goes "shopping" there, sort of like a shopping mall. One looks for things that might be interesting.  "Oh, look.  Articles on protons, neutrons, and electrons.  Let's take a look."  "Oh, look.  Lagrangian dynamics.  I've always wanted to know how that stuff works."  Or I'm in the Chemistry category and see that I can read about Nitric acid.
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::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheist doctor.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.  
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You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.  
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But we don't have the big shopping lists. We have huge trees of categories and subcategories.  I have to go clicking through the tree.  This is ridiculous. If I'm looking at the Physics category, the only way I will get to protons is to see the Subatomic Physics category, click on it, then see the Subatomic Particles category and click on it. How am I supposed to know that?  And how am I supposed to have the patience to go through all that?
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<center>[[User:Conservative]]: Your [[Satanic]] symbols of [[death]] are convincing.</center><br>
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::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. [[User:RobSmith|nobs]] 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"
  
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Similarly, in the Chemistry category, I can't see Nitric acid except by clicking on the Acid–base chemistry category and then the Acids category.
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::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes.  
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And to get to the Electromagnetic wave article from the Physics category, I first have to click on the Electromagnetism category.  No.  Electromagnetic waves, and Maxwell's equations, are fundamental topics in physics.
 
  
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 18:57, 7 April 2017 (EDT)
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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:Agreed.  TAR caused the oposite problem, so I'm reluctant to say it, but there is such a thing as too few categories as well. It's okay to have several "leaf" categories, if applicable, or to have a few categories from different "branches". I haven't been closely watching the recategorization efforts lately, but you're right.
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:This is probably a bad time to bring it up, but I have noticed a few crossovers where there shouldn't be, still.  For example, I ran a recursive category check on Technology, and got some strange results.  Genocide, Genrikh Yagoda, George Davis, Mental illness, National Park, and even Plant were a few of the pages which showed up under the category "Technology."  Perhaps rather than pulling pages out of categories, we should focus on cleaning up the categories themselves, which keeping in mind that multiple categories are sometimes okay.
 
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: P.S. You made me go look up Balkanize. :) --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 19:47, 7 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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::There is always a happy medium.  Unlike WP, we grow articles at a very slow rate, so few categories at this point may be better.  I suggest that when we hit 100 articles in a category, it might be time to adjust it into subcategories. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 02:30, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::My apologies about that - I mistook the {{Large category}} template for a call for help.  The categories were somewhat difficult to form, anyways.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 09:26, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::I think Abcqwe has done good work. Some of these categories are quite large, and they should be split up. Of course, not too many sub-categories should be made, but I think it is easier to find articles if one doesn't have to look in a single cateogry with thousands of articles. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:06, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::On a side note, would it be useful to briefly describe each sub category page on the sub category page or the main physics page? [[User:FredericBernard|FredericBernard]] ([[User talk:FredericBernard|talk]]) 11:55, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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First, I totally appreciate the hard work that Abcqwe and FredericBernard ‎have done. I'm not denying that in the least, and I apologize if I sounded overly critical. Deciding on a category tree, and creating the categories, is not easy. (I myself don't know how to do it.) My only objection was in taking articles ''out'' of the top category, not in putting them into the lower categories.
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What more evidence of [[malicious]] intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in [[User:Conservative]]'s games. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
  
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A dictionary is an enormous book.  But it's alphabetized, so you can find things rapidly.  And if you just like to browse (perhaps you're a Scrabble player) you can do that too. If you have a dictionary of physics, it's all there, from acceleration to Z-boson.  Scroll through the pages with their alphabetized sections, and look at whatever suits your fancy.
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===The inconsistent logic of a [[cult]] believer===
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*[[User:Conservative/Pro-Russia pundit calls himself "Simplicius The Thinker". If you have to tell the world that you are a thinker, you are probably not one]].
  
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I think the "Large category" flag is appropriate for many topics, but is inappropriate for some things, like physics, chemistry, and mathematics. Some categories just list an unwieldy number of very similar things. So, a category of birds, or Civil War battles, very well might benefit from being split up.  But the items in physics are very disparate.  You might be able to figure out, from the battle of Antietam, that the battle of Bull Run is in there too. But you'd never guess, from [[angular momentum]], that [[Maxwell's equations]] is in there too, if you have to search blindly through all the other categories.
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*[https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/if-you-have-to-tell-people-youre If You Have to Tell People You’re the G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time), Then You Are Not]
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:I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
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:: I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, '''being fed''' bad information on) the situation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
  
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:09, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
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::[[Prof. John Mearsheimer]], whom [[User:Conservative]] repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with [[Lt. Col. Daniel Davis]] about [[Western alliance|Western]] [[war propaganda]]: [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY]
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{{quotebox-float|'''Prof. Mearsheimer''' Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a [[propaganda war]] that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like [[Ben Hodges|General Hodges]] want to do is they want to buck up the [[Ukrainian]]s. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want [[the West]], both the [[United States]] and the [[European]]s, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the [[Russian]]s are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ''[https://www.scribbr.com/definitions/ad-nauseam/ ad nauseum]'' in [[the West]] and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. [[The West]] constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of [[drone]]s, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the [[Donbass]] in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....}}
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:::It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the [[Psyop]] & [[Propaganda]] articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
  
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:But SamHB, what worth is it when editors do not move pages into subcategories and then the existing categories end up having hundreds or even thousands of articles? I personally think having some subcategories is more navigatable. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:19, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
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:::Furthermore, [[Vladimir Putin]] has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to [[Sergey Karaganov]], [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY?t=2992 the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream.] [https://youtu.be/2Gd5jdl36cg Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War], [[Glenn Diesen]].
  
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::I assume that, by "move into subcategories" you mean list the subcategory in the list at the bottom of the article, ''and remove the higher category''.  I'm simply arguing for keeping both, for topics like physics, chemistry, and mathematics.  The subcategories are still navigable, if that's the way you like to have the stuff presented.  The subcategories are always listed at the top of the category page.  You can click on those and explore the tree.  My point is that, if you want to see the article on Maxwell's equations, you might not know how to navigate down the tree.  But it will be there, under "M".  You may have to scroll down a bit, but you will see it. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:29, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
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:::Why [[Andy Schlafly]] allows [[psyop]]s & [[propaganda]] to be tolerated as [[malicious]] [[personal attack]]s is the only question I have. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
  
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:::The problem with that, is that it is basically what TAR was doing.  A page on a Glock would be in in the categories Weapons, Firearms, Survivalism, Glocks, Technology, Equipment, Firearms Glossary, and many more.  Since it is a Glock, perhaps the "Glocks" category would be right.  However, all of those categores do to some extent apply.  It's just that everywhere you go, you find the page "glock."  If we only do one or two leaf categories and a root category, it would be better.  However, it still could get messy. --[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 14:36, 8 April 2017 (EDT)
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Andy, If you have any problems with my editing contact me at my new email address. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 14:09, July 29, 2026 (EDT)
  
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On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is [[right-wing]] without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.
  
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{{Cquote|In a twisted [[Machiavellian]] way, perhaps the entire reason for [[John Solomon]] to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for [[justice]].  I don’t know; you decide.|||[[Sundance]]}}
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[[User:Conservative]] frequently uses the term "[[Machiavellian]]" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack [[User:RobSmith]]). When exhaustively questioned, [[User:Conservative]] states he has no understanding what the term means.
  
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Who's right and who's wrong, or who is telling the [[truth]], conspiracy nutcase [[Sundance]] or the "[[Machiavellian]]" [[John Solomon]]?
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[[User:Conservative]] created this issue. Now man up. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/05/26/john-solomons-trust-me-bro-reporting-is-dangerous/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
  
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I'd like to start including the [[Template:Infobox Television|television infobox template]] in editing some TV shows, but as it looks right now (I tried including it in a show I was editing and the infobox didn't look that good as it is now), it may need fixing up to make it look similar to the [[Template:Infobox Film|movie infobox]]. Since I can't do it myself due to the page being locked, would someone else with extended editing privileges be able to fix the TV infobox? [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 16:49, 15 April 2017 (EDT)
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C'mon, Mr. [[MAGA]], man up. You should be able to defend your [[slander]]s against your "enemies".
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{{Cquote|'''SUMMARY''': To be clear, I am saying [[John Solomon]]’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. '''Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to [[President Trump]]''' and/or any righteous movement toward [[justice]].
  
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If that is accurate origination and that explains why he refused to provide the citation, the release of GJ material to Solomon is exceptionally damaging to any case(s) that might use it.  [[Steve Bannon]] and [[Sean Hannity]] will promote [[John Solomon]], while [[James Comey]], [[Mary McCord (DOJ)|Mary McCord]] and [[Jack Smith]] laugh about it.
  
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C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you [[slander]]s against me & Sundance with the [[truth]], or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
  
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:That makes sense for IPs, but not accounts. Most of the accounts that we block need to stay blocked forever, whereas the IP addresses used to create those accounts should not be blocked forever. IP addresses are a different animal, because even static IP addresses eventually get reassigned. The indefinite blocks of bad accounts are common practice on wikis, except wikis run by liberal morons. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:53, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
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[[User:Conservative]]/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a [[gay bathhouse]] in violation of [[Conservapedia Commandments]] to keep it family friendly, claims [[Russia]]'s '''reduction''' of [[gay]] bars is cause to continue [[Ukraine aid]]:
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::When you block accounts, sometimes does it also block the IPs? I seem to recall having to unblock an IP after after someone blocked the persons account even after the account was unblocked. Or was their just overlap and someone may have blocked that IP since the user account was blocked? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:04, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
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{{quotebox-float|On Sun, Jun 14, 2026 at 11:23 AM Mark Miller <redacted> wrote:
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:::Although I see your point regarding some users needing to be permanently banned, speaking as someone who had to fairly recently endure an infinite block on one of the wikis, it also comes at the risk of the mods coming across as people who view themselves as above the law and blocking anyone for even giving criticism for some decisions being made by them (namely, citing how a Complete Monster trope is downright broken and especially protesting the removal of one character due to their actions not being "heinous enough" to qualify despite a lot of those character's actions truly qualifying as heinous.). Had a huge amount of distrust of mods to be honest, due to actually encountering several mods and admins on forums who banned me for "flaming" despite the fact that I was reacting to them flaming, and their not being banned simply because they were a mod (in fact, I distrust them to such an extent that I outright refuse to accept modship or adminship precisely BECAUSE I fear turning out like them), and, not to imply any of you are like that, but the less mods like that and the less opportunities for mods to act like that, the better. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 13:24, 23 April 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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== Potential policy: Conservapedia topic bans/main page talk bans ==
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I did some additional research on how many gay bars/clubs exist in Moscow, Russia:
  
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Looking for feedback on this potential policy: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans]].
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How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.
  
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I thought this policy might make it easier to manage the website and prevent overly broad bans.
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1:18 PM
  
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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Searched the web
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Searched the web
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No precise official count exists, but a rough picture as of 2026:
  
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:I think that if an editor is clearly not making constructive edits here, they should be blocked. How would we enforce such a ban, and under what circumstances would such a ban be implemented rather than a full block? In my opinion, it might be harder to manage CP with this policy, because we would have to watch more editors much more closely. On the bright side, we could use this topic ban on our good-faith liberal editors. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:07, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.  
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::I created this new policy based on feedback from Andy Schlafly via email. I also added a sentence at the end of the policy due to feedback from 1990sguy.  
 
  
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::There were Sysops who wanted to take stricter measures with problem editors, but I thought this more surgical approach would be better. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:36, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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Nomadic Boys
  
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:::Would you please add [[:Category:Conservapedia Policy]] to the new policy article? --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:34, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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What's believed to still be operating, per gay travel guides: MONO, Three Monkeys, and the Hunters Party cruising club are reported as still going strong, while Nashe Cafe and NICE are likely still running in a subtle way as mixed establishments rather than openly gay venues.
  
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::::OK. I was about to do this anyways. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:36, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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Nomadic Boys
  
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:::::Unrelated, would you please move [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sanctuary_Cities&redirect=no Sanctuary Cities] redirect to redirect to [[Sanctuary city]]? Right now it is a double redirect. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:36, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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This confirms your "restaurant by day, gay bar by night" suspicion — one venue is described as a day-time dining venue that turns into an intimate gay bar in the evening and a dance club with drag shows on weekends.  
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:::::Two more things: would you please add [[:Category:Conservapedia Policy]], ''rather than'' [[:Category:Conservapedia]], as it is more direct? Also, you have not answered my concern that this new policy will actually make CP harder to manage. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:43, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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::::::It sounds like something which could in certain cases be useful.  However, I can't see it being regularly used.  My main concern is the same as 1990&#39;sguy's.  How would this be enforced?  If we could get or create a wiki plugin which actually blocked users from editing in pages with certain category tags, this could be a nice thing to have in the toolbox.  However, if this will all be done manually, I would say it is probably not a very practical idea.  One or two users might be manageable, but if we get 20 "topic banned" users, how would we ever keep track of it all, and make sure no one is doing what they shouldn't?
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Travel Gay
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::::::The only way I can see this being somewhat practical without digital support is a "non-controversial" restriction.  People who keep adding a LPoV might be banned from editing anything regarding politics or anything else liberalism has infiltrated.  If they want to write a page on how cars are manufactured, then that's fine.  However, they would not be allowed to change anything on the "evolution" article.--[[User:DavidB4|<font color="ForestGreen">David B</font>]] <sup>([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])</sup> 22:10, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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DavidB4, thanks. You gave me an idea on how to better enforce the topic ban. But in most cases, it will probably be the blocker who enforces the topic ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:16, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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::So one troll creates 20 sockpuppets and ties the hands of the blocker. We've been thru this before. And all it leads to is the blocker controlling and fighting off his enemy, a fight over a page no nuetral third party wants to go near to contribute to or resolve problems.
 
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::Just keep page protect at an advanced level of scrutiny were user has to earn their rights to engage in discussion. Open up the rest to opening editing.
 
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::What's needed are committees to hand out tasks and assignments to committee members. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 15:22, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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:Conservative, just a reminder, I have two requests, one unrelated to this topic ban. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:20, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
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Bottom line: there's no reliable current "number" — maybe a handful (roughly 3-5) of openly or semi-openly operating venues, down sharply from the dozen-plus that existed pre-2023, with most surviving spots deliberately keeping a low profile or dual-purpose cover to avoid drawing police attention.}}
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If warranted, an admin could tell other admins about a topic ban via email. But in most cases, it would be enforced by the blocker or by other blockers who notice the topic ban on a user's talk page. Also, if needed down the pike, a page called [[Conservapedia: List of users with topic bans]] could be created. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:30, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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::The main purpose of the topic bans is for editor retention purposes.  In certain cases, if topic bans were be used instead of a broader block of editing the entire wiki, the editor would be retained rather than permanently lost or lost for an extended period. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:34, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Also, a blocker can create a resource such as this: [[User:Conservative/My topic bans]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:43, 5 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::It's like being a guidance counsellor, you have to help an editor find his/her/their/its niche, and channel their energies into into it. Some editors may excel at content, other's could have organizational skills serving on a committee to regulate proofreading, quality control, template and page design, dispute resolution, disciplinary action, policy development, etc etc etc. To build a community, you gotta lift the 90/10 rule to allow user interaction and collaboration. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup>`
 
  
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=== The beauty of the topic ban ===
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===[https://youtu.be/0Fk0KCF5lsY Eurovision 2026 - Germany Performance]===
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[[User:Conservative]]'s [[Nazi]] [[worship]] is catching on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Do heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens?]]</sup> 01:13, July 26, 2026 (EDT)
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{{Cquote|''Just like [[Napoleon]], I met the [[Russian]] [[winter]].
  
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Here is the beauty of the topic ban:
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''And now my [[empire]] is starting to splinter like his once did.
  
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A brand new liberal editor joins Conservapedia and begins to posting foolish, liberal tripe on talk pages.  
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''Does [[history]] have amnesia? Cuz it's repeating itself again.  
  
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According to [[Conservapedia:Topic bans]], "If an editor is a new editor and has not built up a reputation of quality edits, the topic ban may be imposed quickly if the low quality of his edit/edits merits it."  Also, "Editors who receive topic bans may incur them due to their article edits and/or their talk page edits."  Also, "For example, such an editor may be asked to refrain from editing political/religious/history articles or various other kinds of articles." Also, "Also, if the matter merely requires an editor to be better educated about a topic, the editor in question may be asked to create an article in draft space. If the draft article is of sufficient quality, it will be moved to Conservapedia article space."  In addition, "In particularly egregious cases, where an editor engages in a clear bad faith edit(s), the editor may be banned from Conservapedia for a specified period of time rather than incur a topic ban."
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''[[Stalingrad]]!''
  
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So a new liberal editor who nearly always post liberal tripe to talk pages, can immediately be given a draft page writing assignment or can be told he can only post to non-ideological articles. Since promotion of the leftist narrative is all-important to hard core leftists, this immediately shuts them down.  
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''Yeah, the battle is over, turning the war.
  
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For example, a militant leftist joins Conservapedia. He can immediately be assigned to create a draft article. For example, [[User: Hardcoreleftist/Soviet historical revisionism]] or [[User: Hardcoreleftist/Decline of the secular left in the 21st century]]. And if the articles are of good quality, they can be moved to article space. For example, the aforementioned draft articles could be move to [[Soviet historical revisionism]] and [[Decline of the secular left in the 21st century]]. The possibilities are endless!  The left engages in denialism when it comes to radical Islam, so a draft article could be assigned about [[Growth of Islamic terrorism in the 21st century]].
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''I thought we just have to kick in the door.
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''Can we bring back the [[Molotov-Ribbentrop pact]]?''<ref><small>The allusion is to what some writers have claimed is that if [[Hitler]] had simply stopped after the [[Fall of France]] and had not broken the [[Molotov-Ribbentrop pact]] with [[Operation Barbarossa]] and the invasion of the [[Soviet Union]], Hitler could have retired as "the greatest [[German]] of all time". </small></ref>
  
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''[[Stalingrad]]!''
  
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''Maybe half of [[Poland]] wasn't that bad.
  
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In short, the topic ban is a conservative iron fist in a velvet glove approach to handling dishonest hard core leftist ideologues! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:53, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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:You still gotta keep an eye on them if their ''intent'' is to subvert. They figure every one minute trolling is one minute less production of conservative propaganda (their minds are like Hitler, their creative impulses are bent to destroy, not to produce anything lasting). Nothing is to stop them, for example, putting in the 1919 Red Sox roster under 2016 New England Patriots, only proving what deceptive lying little *#@&%es they are - and everything we say about them is true. They are not intelluctual in any sense, they are lost little children, seeking attention by being mischievous.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]</sup> 14:46, 6 May 2017 (EDT)
 
  
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== Cool article ==
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''I thought them weak, but I can see the [[Russia]]ns are strong now.
  
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I found a cool [http://news.nationalpost.com/full-comment/barbara-kay-bless-this-food-except-for-the-atheist-at-table-12 article about atheism in the National Post].  You might not like it at first, but read past the first couple of paragraphs.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 20:31, 11 May 2017 (EDT)
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''The [[Untermensch]] have got the upper hand now.}}
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==Error==
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*[[User:Conservative]] [[Essay: The USA is more innovative and productive than China and Russia]].
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/United_States_Presidential_Election,_2016 Error in the Move log. I dont have delete powers so I cant fix it.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Trump now is fighting back against the coup plotters'']]</sup> 17:17, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
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:This is straight out of ''[[Mein Kampf]]'': The [[Untermensch]] are incapable of building a [[civilization]].
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==Overly long articles==
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[[File:Nazi propaganda from US Embassy Kyiv.jpg|center|600px|thumb|[[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] from the [[US]] Embassy [[Kyiv]]. This is straight out of ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' about [[Aryan]] man being the "founders of [[culture]]". [https://archive.is/u77eo]  ]]
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From what I understand, the typical Conservapedia article should be accessible to a secondary school student or at least a freshman in university. Some articles, such as [[Alger Hiss]], [[Elvis Presley]], and  [[Barack Hussein Obama]], are some of the longest articles on this site. They rival the overly verbose entries on Wikipedia, in my opinion. Should these and other overly long articles be trimmed and extraneous content possibly be moved to more subpages? Just a thought. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 18:34, 16 May 2017 (EDT)
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:The sentiment was echoed by the "White Fuhrer" and [[American]] [[ally]] [[Andriy Biletsky]],<ref>[https://judgenap.com/ukraine-promotes-neo-nazi-to-brigadier-general/ Ukraine Promotes Neo-Nazi to Brigadier General], [[Kyle Anzalone]], [[Judging Freedom]], October 2, 2025. judgenap.com</ref> who was recently interviewed by [[Ukrainian]] [[dictator]] [[Volodymyr Zelensky]] [https://t.me/V_Zelenskiy_official/20065] to replace [[Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky]] as [[AFU]] [[Commander-in-Chief]]:
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{{Cquote|the [[historic]] mission of our [[nation]] in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against [[Semite]]-led [[Untermensch]]en (Subhumans). [https://responsiblestatecraft.org/azov-ban-lifted/] }}
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::These articles aren't exactly accessible to the target audience, and overly complex I think. Basic biographies should really be the emphasis  most of the articles on here are shorter and more digestible than WP and aren't weighed down with non-essential information. I personally like articles that resemble the old school paper encyclopedias of my youth than WP's excessively long articles. Encyclopedia entries are meant to be starting points for research. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 20:57, 16 May 2017 (EDT)
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[[File:Screenshot 28-7-2026 14293.jpeg|center|850px|thumb|July 20, 2026 meeting with [[Andrii Biletsky]], ‘White Fuhrer’ and head of the [[Azov Battalion|Third Azov Army Corps]]. [[Mikhailo Drapaty]] and Biletsky were most favored to replace [[Syrsky]] as [[C-i-C]], with the [[MSM|Western press]] more positive towards Drapaty since he didn’t carry the baggage of commanding the world’s largest contingent of heavily armed [[neo-nazis]].]]
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:::If you really think these articles should be split up, I recommend asking the editors most occupied with them. The Alger Hiss article is predominantly edited by [[User:FOIA]]. Maybe ask RobS or Andy regarding Obama. The editors most familiar with the articles will probably give you the best answer. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:45, 16 May 2017 (EDT)
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:Here is just one, among several extended excerpts in that chapter from ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' of the [[spirit]] and flavor [[User:Conservative]] lifted from [[Adolf Hitler]]:
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::::Some articles can be split up, if done carefully with a summary of the forked article remaining in the main article. It is best if the expert on the topic do the splitting up because they are best at summarizing what is most important. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 08:12, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
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{{Cquote|If we were to divide [[mankind]] into three groups, the founders of [[culture]], the bearers of culture, the destroyers of culture, only the [[Aryan]] could be considered as the representative of the first group. From him originate the foundations and walls of all [[human]] [[creation]], and only the outward form and color are determined by the changing traits of character of the various peoples. He provides the mightiest building stones and plans for all [[human]] [[progress]] and only the execution corresponds to the nature of the varying [[men]] and [[race]]s. In a few decades, for example, the entire [[east]] of [[Asia]] will possess a [[culture]] whose ultimate foundation will be [[Hellenic]] spirit and [[German]]ic [[technology]], just as much as in [[Europe]]. Only the outward form-in part at least-will bear the features of [[Asiatic]] [read "[[Eurasia]]n hordes"] character. It is not true, as some people think, that [[Japan]] adds [[Europe]]an [[technology]] to its [[culture]]; no, [[Europe]]an [[science]] and [[technology]] are trimmed with Japanese characteristics. The foundation of actual life is no longer the special Japanese culture, although it determines the color of life-because outwardly, in consequence of its inner difference, it is more conspicuous to the European-but the gigantic [[scientific]]-[[technical]] [[achievement]]s of [[Europe]] and [[America]]; that is, of [[Aryan]] peoples. Only on the basis of these [[achievement]]s can the [[Orient]] follow general [[human]] [[progress]]. They furnish the basis of the struggle for daily bread, create [[weapon]]s and implements for it, and only the outward form is gradually adapted to Japanese character.|||A. Hitler}}
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:::::In the print encyclopedias I recall, there was a Micropedia and a Macropedia, short and long articles.  An article about George Ade, Hoosier playwright and fable writer, would only need to be a brief paragraph.  An article called "Rocks and Minerals," meanwhile, would detail every type, the various classifications, chemical compositions, and means of formation, though both would be really an outline to the sum of human knowledge on the subject. In the area of biographies, length was variant - short biographies for Jeppe Aekjaer and Abbas I, a longer biography for Alvar Aalto, and a massive Macropedia biography for Isaac Newton or William Shakespeare.  As we specialize in politics, it would make sense to have such articles for Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Donald Trump.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 14:22, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
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== Confession ==
 
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Maybe things belongs on the [[Conservapedia:Community Portal|community portal]], but I know no one reads that, so I'm saying it here:
 
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:I'm a liberal.  I've vandalized the encyclopedia.  I've lied to everyone here.
 
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Okay, so -liberalism?  Well, I thought I was almost as far right as one could be, agnostic in regards to macroevolution and global warming. Now, there's denial of complex numbers and relativity?  I can't doubt that imaginaries and complexes have some uses in math - I'll doubt the p-adic numbers, maybe, but not relativity.  Sure, I've thought that Trump could bring about good things, and that people deserve the right to own guns, and that the Oscars are inane, and that feminists show a double standard, and that vouchers for private schools are a good thing, and that if scientists think religion should survive without government support like private enterprise, then they should stop appealing for government funding themselves and see how useless they are to taxpayers, and that a Christian baker should not be forced to bake a gay-themed wedding cake so long as he still bakes regular cakes for gay people ... but denying relativity, Michelle Obama's womanhood, and re-writing the Bible?  I'm just not [[User:Conservative|''that'' conservative]].
 
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Yes - twice.  Once just to check response time, under the name Clickyourheels (now my IP is blocked and I need this account to edit at all).  The other time, I added a little joke to one of the pages, and it wasn't the [[Conservative jokes]] page.  Of course, the joke was a fallacious statement. Where is it?  Among hundreds of other author biographies no one will ever read.  Even worse, the joke isn't funny if you haven't seen WKRP.
 
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My name never was Nathan.  When I made a "Nathan" e-mail account (nathancp314@gmail.com) to reply to Conservative, I realized the indignity of a fake name.  Now I've wasted another slot for someone named Nathan with middle and last initials CP.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::That's big of you to allow bakers to not bake cakes for "marriages" of homosexuals so long as they bake regular cakes for them as customers.  So much for "We have the right to refuse service to anyone."  You spelled it out yourself: the consequences are that if the bakers ''do'' refuse on that basis, they should be "forced" to do even more.  That's the kind of argument and rules of jurisprudence we've come to expect from those who live on or orbit "planet gay".
 
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::But who are we talking to this time?  A user with three? four? accounts whose real agenda is to use them to eventually feign a consensus?  Or at least one who spreads the opposition to conservatism among accounts that would have faced a categorical and swift rebuke if presented by one account?  I for one have no desire to help you make Conservapedia participate in the cruel shell game that the subtext of your audacious announcement openly bears as an interpretation—nor in the things we can reasonably expect to follow under the designs to which these aforementioned suspicious behaviors already point. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 03:08, 6 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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After reading a number of CP articles, I realize that we accidentally present an inaccurate or outdated view of religion in America.  Religion in America has changed since we were growing up. 1) The traditional churches have declined in attendance.  To attract new members some churches have offered new ministries: weight loss, financial counseling, youth, etc.  2) Some churches are offering foreign language services or sublet to a separate foreign language congregation (such as Korean, Filipino, etc.)  3) More people are getting their sermons via television, radio or the internet.  4) Military chaplains and chapels are important for worship by the military and their families. 5) Wealthy people have private chapels on their weekend estates for privacy and security.  6) College based ministries must compete for student time and attention.  7) Historic downtown congregations have had to respond to migration to the suburbs, and small congregations face competition from mega-church congregations.  Religion continues to be an important social force in America -- it is not as much of a melting pot as it was decades ago.  Does anyone want to work on an article or additions to related articles?  Perhaps AlanE or AugustO can tell us if similar changes are happening in other countries. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 08:12, 30 May 2017 (EDT)
 
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"Several decades ago, church statistician and demographer David Barrett began to report the surprising news that around the world, the most rapidly growing faith was Spirit-empowered Christianity, marked by clear gospel preaching, belief in the literal truth of the Scriptures, and the reality of God’s presence. (The data were compiled in the prestigious “World Christian Encyclopedia,” published by Oxford University Press.)...
 
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This is confirmed in the new Pew Forum report, which showed that [[Evangelicalism|evangelical Protestant]] churches in America grew by 2 million from 2007 to 2014 whereas the so-called mainline (liberal) Protestant churches declined by 5 million, meaning that evangelical Protestants now make up the largest religious group in the nation. (Although this is not part of the Pew Forum survey, my surmise is that the evangelical churches that are most Bible-based and make the most serious, grace-empowered demands on their congregants are, generally speaking, the ones that are growing rather than declining.[http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/why-conservative-churches-are-still-growing/]
 
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I hope the helps. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:51, 12 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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== Is this article appropriate to cite? ==
 
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I and JDano have been in a major dispute on the [[Donald Trump achievements]] article over what is probably a silly and absurd issue: whether [http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/18/media-ignores-imported-female-genital-mutilation/ this article] is appropriate to cite. JDano believes that we should not cite it because adding it to this article would somehow increase the chances of people who practice FGM of being ruled not guilty and having the practice legalized -- something which I frankly think is completely absurd and ridiculous. But JDano will not give up in his attempts to delete the source, and I am fully convinced that it is appropriate, so I an bringing it here. Is this article appropriate or inappropriate to cite? Thanks. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:29, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:There are two Brettbart articles.  The first one was a straight news story about three people being arrested for performing [[female genital mutilation]] on two Minnesota girls in a clinic outside of Detroit.  The second article, the one at issue, is an ax-griding piece that has the following points:
 
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:*Trump Has a New Policy - there is nothing to show that the policy changed in April from the "old" Trump policy or the policy under the Obama administration.
 
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:*There is "a national campaign" to eradicate FGM.  This was an action brought by the US Attorney in Michigan, not some newly-announced task force.
 
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:*That one media critic is complaining that there is not enough MSM coverage of this "new national campaign" - perhaps because it does not exist.
 
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:*That the critic says that is due to "political correctness" and "fear of offending Muslims" - but it could be due to the fact that the government is not bringing religion into this and does not want to set up the defense counsel with a "religious defense" to the criminal charges.  This is speculation.
 
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:*That a few MSM media stories have followed the government' lead in the bringing religion into this.
 
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:*The story then conclude with an attack on the MSM as "conspicuously silent on this case and their silence is deafening" and "aiding and abetting violence against women out of a politically correct fueled fear of offending Muslims."  On the whole, this is an advocacy piece trying to bootstrap a failure of the MSM to play up the religion angle so as to explain why they did not report on the dramatic launch of a "new national campaign" when there apparently is no such campaign.
 
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:I think the article is very misleading, and plays into the hands of those who would assert that this prosecution is anti-Muslim motivated.  We don't need to cite it.  We have now fixed the [[Donald Trump achievements]] article to just focus on the individual prosecution.  I have been trying to take any mention of religion out of the article bullet as well, because neither the statute nor the indictment mentions religion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:05, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:I think it is an appropriate article to cite. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:56, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::For the record, I linked the article that is in dispute, and both Andy and Conservative have seen the article. They know which article we are referring to, and they think it's fine. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:07, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Nobody's asserting that the prosecution is motivated by "Islamophobia," and the article certainly does not say that. It is noting that this practice is one that is promoted by the leaders of sects of Islam. It is also noting MSM bias in covering the story. The MSM cannot admit that certain sects of Islam promote this practice. We know the religon and even the sect ([http://religionnews.com/2017/04/27/the-splainer-what-is-female-genital-mutilation-and-what-does-it-have-to-do-with-islam/ the Dawoodi Bohra sect]) of those who committed the crimes. They are crimes nonetheless. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::The article does not advance the bullet in the article.  It is focusing on Islam, but we all agree that so far, this case has nothing to do with Islam.  Let's wait until the Defense raises it.  The "Trump Administration achievement" has nothing to do with Islam, just as the bullets in [[Obamagate timeline]] have nothing to do with "Russian conspiracy." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:27, 14 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::I am involved with several projects right now so I unfortunately don't have time to investigate this issue further and mediate this issue. However,  I do have a message for 1990sguy and JDano: Please consider the possibility of a compromise position. Perhaps, there is some middle ground position that you two could settle on. Again, my regrets for not being able to investigate this issue further. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 03:05, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::::@Conservative: JDano got about 80% of what he wanted: we originally cited only the Breitbart source, but now other sources are cited as well. I removed mentions of "Islamic" from the Donald Trump achievements article (even though those prosecuted ''clearly'' are Muslim and that FGM is mainly Islamic). I changed other wording after JDano criticized it. I have been extremely patient, and I have been very considerate. It is time for JDano to accept a middle ground position, which I think is how it is now, which actually would be 80% JDano's version. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:18, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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The matter was easier to research than I expected.
 
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Obama commissioned a study on FGM in 2014 and a fairly mainstream press outlet, ''The Hill'', wondered if he was serious about the the issue.[http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/civil-rights/214242-will-obama-keep-his-promise-to-end-fgm-in-the-us]  A politician saying he is commissioning a study is often like a husband telling a wife "we'll so" or a sales prospect saying "I'll think about". In short, it is often a ploy to do nothing. Obama does not have a good record on FGM or equal pay for equal work in terms of White House employees.[http://www.redstate.com/streiff/2016/06/25/female-genital-mutilation-epidemic-obama-administration-hiding/]
 
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Trump quickly took action on this issue which shows at least some commitment. So it is a new policy rather than Obama's do nothing FGM policy for 8 years which obtained zero convictions.
 
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So I vote for 1990sguys' decision and oppose JDano. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:28, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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== JDano ==
 
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I did not want to do this, and I waited 24 hours and 1-2 dozen reversions, but I was forced to block JDano for three days for poor editing in [[Donald Trump achievements]].
 
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He added irrelevant information with a liberal POV, he blindly reverted edits that I made that had nothing to do with our disputes that he had no apparent problem with, and in his latest edit, he duplicated information to create a new "education" section without deleting the duplicate information that was listed in the "government size" section.
 
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We had a serious dispute over whether to cite a single Breitbart article, and he continued edit warring even though I asked him to keep the status quo until we resolved the dispute. He was the only editor to oppose citing the article, and I still made many changes to satisfy him.
 
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JDano's behavior has been very irritating, and he has been almost impossible to work with. Please judge the edits on Donald Trump achievements for yourselves (the "education" section he added are just copied-and-pasted info from other portions of the article). I gave him a three-day block for him to cool off. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:JDano's objections to [[Richard Dawkins' health]] have been adequately answered at [[Talk:Richard Dawkins' health]]. Yet, I do not expect him to acknowledge this matter. 
 
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:On top of this, Dawkins is clearly acting hypocritical when it comes to his views on experts/consensus/science when it comes to the application of medical science/medical advice to his health. His doctors are clearly giving him sound advice and he is clearly acting foolishly and ignoring their advice. And the proof is in the pudding. Namely, Dawkins ignored and continues to ignore their sound medical advice and continues to go back to the "controversy trough" again and again even after his stroke.
 
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:I thought JDano had some reasonable objections to the [[Obama's religion]] article, but I thought his picture choice of Obama standing in front of a glorious looking cross like he was some kind of devout Christian preacher was over the top. Do I like the present Obama's religion article? I am not a fan of it. That is why I provided the counterexamples to Obama being a Muslim.
 
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:Many conservatives are reactive and overly defensive. When liberals invariably and reflexively yell racist/misogynist, etc. regardless of the merit of their charges, conservatives often cower like kicked puppies.  I like the fact that Sean Hannity took on a liberal via threat of a slander suit in order to stop her nonsense.  I wish more conservatives were like Hannity.
 
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:[[Sun Tzu]] said a strong defense makes one invincible, but an attack brings victory. At some point, Hitler/other unsavory characters and harmful ideologies have to be challenged. The one thing I like about Trump is that he is willing to go on the attack. For years, conservatives largely ignored liberal indoctrination in public schools. What did Trump do? He picked Betty Devos as his Secretary of Education to promote school choice. Trump pushed for a wall on the Mexican border. Trump has "NY attitude" like assertiveness and boldness. He is the George Patton of American politics. That is why people voted for him. Does Trump go too far sometimes? Yes, he does. Attacking Carly Fiorina's looks in terms of her face was crass and foolish for example.
 
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:Maybe JDano is being overly reactive. At the same time, I do believe in accuracy in both content and sources. I wish I had time to investigate this matter and mediate it, but I don't. I will say that as long as the Breitbart article has no inaccuracy in it, I have no problems with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:08, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::Conservative, JDano's dispute with me over the Breitbart reference was not the only problem.
 
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::JDano also wanted to add other information that I did not think was appropriate. Some of the information was irrelevant (it should have been added in other articles) or had a liberal POV, some of the information was unsourced (everything should be sourced so we can verify it as true). I explained my edits, but he reverted them.
 
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::Although I made several edits in the meantime that were completely unrelated to what we were disputing, JDano reverted those edits as well.
 
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::When trying to add changes, JDano also said he created a new section on Trump's achievements on education. This seems good, but he just copied and pasted information that already existed in the article, and he did not delete the duplicates. I seemed like a ploy for him to continue reverting.
 
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::It's also not just the past 24 hours. I have had disputes with him in the past where he repeated the same behaviors, constantly reverting without discussing, adding irrevevant content with a liberal pov, and removing unrelated changes I had done in the meantime.
 
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::Overall, his behavior was too disruptive and was doing CP more harm than good. I had to temporarily block him. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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1990sguy, I revised my commentary/decision on this issue. I took your side. See my post above.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:30, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Still having a hard time wrapping my head around the dispute here. Is it (a) Brietbart is not credible if it's not backed up by MSM reporting, or (b) the Brietbart article is irrelevent to the text in mainspace? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 18:39, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::The funniest thing about this is that 1990sguy has actually removed his own factually incorrect editorialising about Islam and FGM from the Conservapedia text, but still insists on retaining a reference which engages in exactly the same kind of editorialising, only turned all the way up to 11 and with a dirty great fireworks and laser show to boot.
 
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::::JDano has probably done himself an injury with all the facepalming he must've been doing last night. He deserves a medal, not a 3 day block. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 19:44, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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Today was a separate problem from yesterday.  I wanted to add content about Title IX and the appointment of Adam Kissel to head up these Dept. of Education reforms.  I realized that although Education policy is a very important area of Trump policy changes, and is of high interest to Conservapedia readers, there was no section for it on the page.  So, I started to move education bullets from other sections and to add the Kissel bullet, but every time I would hit "save", 1990sguy would create an "edit conflict"  Rather than loose the text, I saved it so that I could go back and fix the conflicts, but 1990sguy blocked me before I could complete the work as intended.  The plan was to move the bullets not duplicate them.  I think we need more group effort and less "individual ownership" of pages.  Also, less name-calling.  I am a life-long conservative, and Lindsay Graham is a life-long conservative, who is a good-guy.  If he offers concise, good-natured advice to President Trump to stop tweeting, it is very newsworthy and worth including in a discussion of the Trump Twitter account.  I am here to build a well-researched reliable encyclopedia, not to see how much I can build a false narrative to advance my own political agenda.  I expect everyone else to be here for the same reason.  So:
 
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1) Let's give each other some space - make sure the first editor is done before you start to rewrite his contribution.
 
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2) Look at multiple sources - if only one source has the story and everyone else has the opposite, consider that the outlier may have the facts wrong or has miscommunicate to you.
 
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3) If you don't understand what you are trying to write, ask for help.  If your understanding is not clear, what you write will only confuse other Conservapedia readers. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:04, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::Ok, so we have established the dispute is over inclusion of a Brietbart citation. Now, can you answer my inquiry over ''why'' Brietbart is inappropriate for the language in text, without going into extraneous discussion on unrelated matters. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 22:31, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Correct.  Setting aside the interwoven "edit conflict" confusion of today, we are back to the Brietbart article with a headline "Establishment Media Hides Trump’s New Policy to Stop ‘Genital Mutilation’ of American Girls". I described my concerns [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=prev&oldid=1353941 here.]  The revised bullet has nothing to do with Islam or any "Trump's New Policy to Stop FGM", rather it discusses just the Michigan prosecution, which is notable because it is the first prosecution under 18 U.S.C. §118. So, the Breitbart article is not relevant to the bullet in question. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:16, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::Ok. So it's not really a 'new policy', it is the first time prosecutions have been brought under a 20 year old federal law. The Trump White House and sympathetic media charge the mainstream media is covering this fact up, which is both pro-woman, pro-child, and even designed to protect Muslims. What's wrong with that? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 23:39, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::Perhaps I am missing a source.  The White House (Sean Spicer) is not commenting.  The main stream media is not covering up "a new policy" because the policy and law have been the same for years.  How can Brietbart beat up on the mainstream media if there has been no announcement of a "new policy?" What is new was the FBI was able to prove that two girls were transported across state lines for FGM, so they arrested the doctors and got medical help for the girls.  Prior actions have been focusing on international "FGM tourism" at border crossings. [https://travel.state.gov/content/visas/en/general/fact-sheet-on-female-genital-mutilation-or-cutting.html State Dept. Fact Sheet]  Intrastate FGM cases are in the hands of local and state police. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:56, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::::So there are two issues, correct me if I'm wrong. One, enforcement of a law to protect young girls, which is an achievement; secondly, the debate over identifying victims and perpetrators of these crimes as Muslims. Is this a fair synopsis? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 00:12, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::::No. The second issue is whether there was a "new" policy or a policy change.  There is a long tradition in the media of not identifying young victims of sexual crimes.  Neither the government nor almost all of the media have said anything about the girls (names, hometown, nor religious sect.)  The Breitbart article is misinterpreting the MSM's absence of detail as "fear of offending Muslims."  The problem that I had with the original bullet was the claim that during the Obama Administration and the Trump Administration (Jan. 20 to mid-April) there was a policy of non-enforcement of 18 U.S.C. § 118.  I can't find any evidence of that.  It is easier to catch international "FGM tourism" at the border than to catch mothers driving daughters across state-lines for a domestic FGM trip. So, the achievement was the first domestic criminal prosecution. (Please watch this brief interview if you think it is a "Muslim issue": https://youtu.be/sb_YPFrWty0 .)[[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:22, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::::::Ok, fair enough. So your argument is that while the Trump Justice Department's first enforcement of federal anti-FGM is a recognizable achievement, the Brietbart article is irrelevent to that accomplishment. Should any reference be made to the fact that both perpatrators and victims were Muslim in this achievement? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 10:14, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::As an experienced encyclopedia editor on several wikis, I value your input on this.  To me, the fact that no mention was made in the charging documents and that I don't want to give defense counsel any ammo leads me to say "no". Wikipedia would call that "synthesis". [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 10:19, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::::Would it be a valid citation to outline the facts of the case, without mentioning 'Muslim' or 'Islam' in the text? Secondly, in an article entitled 'Donald Trump achievements', why wouldn't the Trump administration aggressively enforcing federal law to protect little Muslim girls be an achievement? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 10:47, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::::::::::Answer #1: The first Brietbart article would be better than the second one that 1990sguy wants in the footnote.  There are many other clearer sources including the DOJ press release, and 1990sguy and I have reached agreement on the text of the bullet and all references except the second Brietbart article, which I feel is nonsense.  Answer #2: The US attorney would argue that religion was not relevant to the arrest and prosecution.  FGM is not limited to one religious group, and the health-related statute focuses upon a specific action rather than upon the motives of the accused.  Hypotheically, if DOJ was trying to prosecute a religious group for their beliefs, that move would be subject to the same court challenges as now apply to the "travel ban."  1990sguy chose to have this debate on my [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJDano&diff=1354127&oldid=1353746 talk page] rather than on this page. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:28, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::::::::::Well, my simple point is, the Trump administration protecting Muslims is a worthy accomplishment, which is the point the first Brietbart article - and no other source - makes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 11:48, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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JDano states, "the policy and law have been the same for years". I bring this up here because understanding the difference can be valuable to us on multiple levels. ''What is the difference between policy and law?''. I disagree with JDano's assertion: while the law outlaws FMG, the policy of three past administrations has been not to enforce the law. Similiarly, while sanctuary cities are illegal, and
 
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Dream Act is not law, the policy of past administrations has been to not enforce immigration law and treat the Dream Act as if it were law. Or the ABM missile Treaty with Russia, while the ABM treaty is binding law, the policy of the Bush & Obama administrations have been to ignore it and allow international tensions to escalate. Or Operation Fast and Furious. While the law required enforcement of illegal weapons sales, the policy allowed  the government itself to facilitate illegal weapons sales. These issues will be revisted  soon in the Supreme Court were the law entrusts national security to the president, the courts have denied the president's policy of enforcing the law in regard to the travel ban. So we can use all these illustrations to understand the difference. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 10:47, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::You can judge each President's administration by the totality of their actions.  The bill was signed into law by President Clinton on Sept. 30, 1996.  President Obama signed an amendment to the law to outlaw "FGM tourism" abroad in 2013.  One of the things that custom and border patrol staff look out for is young girls traveling abroad for FGM.  There is also continuous US support of anti-FGM actions via the United Nations.  I realize that law and policy can differ.  For example, President Lincoln made a deal with the Mormons to not prosecute bigamy laws in exchange for their not siding with the Confederacy in the Civil War.  Everything I have found indicates that the DOJ policies inherited from the Obama Administration were to enforce 18 U.S.C. § 116.  If we can find something credible to the contrary, it would be quite a scoop for Conservapedia. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:02, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::FMG tourism would be virtually impossible to enforce without a confession of intent from the adult escort, or perhaps on return if the facts can be documented. Are there any known cases of prosecution? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 11:22, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::I can look for sources, but it would be administrative action and not a criminal case in an Article III court. Only the travel and the adult escort would be targeted, since the person performing the procedure would be in the other country. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 12:46, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:JDano, Lindsey Graham is one of the most liberal Republicans.[https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/how-lindsey-graham-stomped-the-tea-party/372521/] He belongs to the "surrender Republicans" rather than someone like Newt Gingrich who forced Bill Clinton to have a balanced budget.
 
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:The GOP base is sick of surrender GOP members and that is why Trump far surpassed Graham in the 2016 GOP presidential primary. We're tired of GOP members who are terrified to have their uniforms soiled by the press/liberals calling them names. We want Donald "blood and guts" Trump.
 
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:Please don't bother me on a talk page page again if you want to fly the white flag rather than take the opposition to task for hypocritical/inconsistent behavior. You are not willing to concede reasonable points and impose time wasting opposition to others.
 
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:You were so busy to appease liberals with that ridiculous picture of Obama that you couldn't see the obvious truth: Obama is not a Christian. The Apostle Paul's views never "evolved" on homosexuality. Obama may not be a Muslim, but he is certainly not a Christian. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:35, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::As far as clarification, I am not saying Trump or any other politician should go out of his way to create unnecessary conflict, but they shouldn't be afraid of conflict either. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:08, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::You have totally lost me. What does Lindsey Graham have to do with female genital mutilation, a specific Brietbart citation, and the blocking of a constructive editor? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 23:42, 15 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::Man if you lost ''nobs'' then that's like, some next-level obfuscation. Kudos, Conservative. [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 00:03, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::::I'm really struggling to see what Sun Tzu, Lindsey Graham, and the Apostle Paul have to do with settling a dispute between users on female genital mutilation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 00:14, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::::::Conservative was referring to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump_achievements&diff=1354109&oldid=1354107 this edit] and previous edits done by JDano. He made other problematic edits before I blocked him. --[[User:1990&#39;sguy|1990&#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:26, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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*[http://ufdcimages.uflib.ufl.edu/UF/E0/02/10/16/00001/schubert_k.pdf FEMALE CIRCUMCISION IN THE UNITED STATES: AN ANALYSIS OF LAWS AND POLICIES]
 
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I hope these resources help resolve matters.  I do think that JDano and 1990sguy should be able to work this matter out. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:27, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:Dear Conservative, thank you for sharing your research.  The first paper is a bit out-of-date.  Since then, Congress amended the law to address FGM tourism, and more states have enacted laws.  I have hesitated to greatly expand the FGM article because I want to keep it family-friendly.  I believe that 1990sguy and I reached agreement on the FGM bullet, except for whether to include the Brietbart article. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 09:40, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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::If you are a member of an Islamic sect that practices FGM, you will be offended by the US, the UN, and the EU outlawing the practice. So, you will not be surprised by news coverage of an arrest whether or not the mainstream media discusses the religion of the family or the doctor.  If you are a non-Muslim whose family practiced FGM, you may feel uncomfortable every time FGM is in the news, but that does not dictate how we cover the subject.  If you are a criminal defense lawyer, your only real option is to argue the statute is unconstitutional under the First Amendment and that this is more a question of free exercise of religion than of protecting the health of the girls. (You could also argue under the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment because cutting girls is illegal when cutting boys is not.) Quite a difficult area to navigate. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 10:16, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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:::Without getting too far off course, and changing this to a sociological phenomenon, the practice among Muslims (and others) is  mostly motivated by tribal custom, i.e. preparing a female for barter or trade in a marriage contract who will not dishonor the the family or tribe she originated from, thus violating the marriage contract that binds certain tribal alliances together. An unfaithful wife can cause wars, such as Helen of Troy, or serious internal breaches like Tristan and Isolde. At root of FGM is treating women as property. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]</sup> 11:37, 16 June 2017 (EDT)
 
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It seems we have solved the Breitbart source (finally! :) ). JDano made [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump_achievements&diff=1354109&oldid=1354107 several other edits that I reverted] because I thought they were not constructive. First, however, let me say thank you for not trying to re-add them after I reverted (and blocked) you. I don't think I did a good job of explaining my position, which I strongly hold.
 
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One of these edits was adding the paragraph of Lindsey Graham. I am not opposed to having opposing viewpoints, but what makes Graham's single viewpoint so notable compared to other people? He is one of 100 Senators, 1 of 535 Congressmen, and 1 of over 7 billion people in the world. What makes his view so notable? ''If you want to add an opposing view of Trump's Twitter activity, please find a good source (preferably NOT from the MSM, or at least a fair MSM source) that speaks generally of opposition from conservatives and other people, rather than the opinion of a single RINO Senator.'' '''Anyone can say anything about everything. Let's not cherry pick quotes, please.'''
 
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You also added a sentence saying that "The Trump Administration continues to offer spousal benefits to federal workers in same-sex marriages." However, ''there's no source''. The intro paragraph of the article specifically tells you to add sources. Once again, anyone can say anything about everything. We need to be certain this fact you added is accurate. I am not opposed to adding that sentence, but '''there MUST be a source.'''
 
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Theory of Relativity

Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)

Interesting hypothesis!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)

Your best protection

Once I quoted Chaucer to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others." This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.

That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.

This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound". If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped. What is the fallacy in this line of thinking? A Christian ought to know. A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.

And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.

Another thing I wonder about: Is the poisonous deadly, or is only poison deadly? The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly". VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

For the record

“ Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was. ”

—Thomas Friedman, NYT, April 3, 2022.[1]


“ There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, World War III is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the Great War or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of mutual destruction, but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and the United States of America (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism. ”

—Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.[2]

“ I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the Thirty Years' War in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, philosophically speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it. ”

—Alexei Arestovich, January 14, 2024.[3]

“ Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas. ”

—Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.[4]

“ The United States confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of World War II. The United States could in short order be drawn into a war across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose. ”

—Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.[5]

“ Look at what's happening in geopolitics. We're on the verge of World War III right now. We got a dementia patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the mainstream media or the political class or the big corporations out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an aristocracy that is trying to bleed the peasants dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the US took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of debt. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the gold standard and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is financial and economic history they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries. ”

—John Robino, August 24, 2024.[6]

“ Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. History will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the world order that would be comparable to the post-World War II period with the creation of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the United Nations, these other Western controlled institutions that have been the foundation for the existing international rules-based order. ”

—Larry Johnson, August 30, 2024.[7]

“ Remember 1940. In three weeks, Americans will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the president who will determine the nation’s conduct during World War III, which has begun. ”

—George Will, October 16, 2024.[8]

“ World War III has never been closer.' ”

—Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.[9]

“ World War III has already begun. ”

—Jamie Dimon, October 24, 2024.[10]

“ I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the third world war has begun. ”

—Valerii Zaluzhny, November 21, 2024.[11]

Note: Zaluzhny is the prime candidate of the globalist deep state to become the next puppet president of Ukraine once Zelensky is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things World War III has already begun. [Ed.]
“ US policymakers fail to learn the lessons of history and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in Eastern Europe into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in NATO threatens to transform the war in Ukraine into a Third World War that could cost the lives of ten times more. ”

—David T. Pyne, November 21, 2024.[12]

“ The sudden collapse of Bashar al-Assad's despotic regime in Syria this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: World War III has already begun. ”

—Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.[13]

“ World War 3 is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. Russia, China, and their allies want to transform the current US-led world order that has been in place since the end of World War 2 from unipolar to multipolar—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The US and its allies want the unipolar status quo to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite nuclear Armageddon, where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—proxy wars, economic wars, financial wars, cyber wars, biological wars, deniable sabotage, and information wars. This is World War 3. It's happening right now and rapidly escalating. ”

—Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.[14]

“ World War III is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people. ”

—Major General Apti Alaudinov, June 13, 2025.[15]

“ We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous. ”

—Steve Bannon, June 18, 2025.[16]

  1. ↑ Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I, Teller Report, 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com
  2. ↑ Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway, 11/1/2023. menafn.com
  3. ↑ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger, Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com
  4. ↑ Sergei Karaganov: Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke, Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.
    Karaganov goes on: "But when the Americans felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring military superiority, the foundation upon which the West's dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world wealth. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s hypersonic, Poseidon and other systems have ruined these hopes. They abandoned the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles [the treaty between the USSR and the USA, signed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in Washington ]. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the ABM Treaty, and so on. Instead they have got a war that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our men for that… However we will ensure our security and sovereignty, and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke. I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from Europe again. Europe is the spawn of evil for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the life of one generation, the sin, which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."
  5. ↑ Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org
  6. ↑ John Rubino. rubino.substack.com
  7. ↑ From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview, Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. YouTube
  8. ↑ Opinion World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed. By George F. Will, The Washington Post, October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com
  9. ↑ Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.
  10. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says, By Suzanne Blake, Newsweek. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com
  11. ↑ 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador, By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, The Mirror, 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk
  12. ↑ Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office, David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com
  13. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note, Bryce Hoffman, Forbes magazine, December 8, 2024. forbes.com
  14. ↑ 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels, by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com
  15. ↑ Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops, Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq Mirror, 13 Jun 2025.
  16. ↑ Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon, The Christian Science Monitor, Jun 18, 2025. YouTube.

Socialist Prime Minister of Slovakia and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left Robert Fico declares sovereignty from European values by signing Constitutional Amendment declaring there are only 2 genders [4]

What is the EU & NATO gonna do with this Putin puppet? Invade Slovakia? Impose sanctions? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the US/Biden regime idea of "democracy" with rigged elections like in Moldova, Romania, France, Germany and the UK?

If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Oh, I get it, finally. Election fraud and political assassinations are preferable to authoritarianism, in User:Conservative's mind. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Of course, User:Conservative wants to censor and hide this from AI. [5] RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

off-topic gay bathhouse rant

A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by User:Conservative, June 8, 2008. [1]
Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?: Summary: "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
Is Slovakia a member of NATO: Summary: "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Ahh, St. Petersburg & Moscow are not in Slovakia.
But you obviously can't get gay bathhouses off your mind.
I trust this clarifies matters.
RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [6]).
According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[7] Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. Conservative (talk) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
According to Grok, User:Conservative's criticism of Vladimir Putin is because of Putin's suppression of LGBTQ+ rights:

[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]

Yes, User:Conservative, a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions...These fit into a broader pattern where roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ suppression under Vladimir Putin."

Russian Chechen commander addresses Ukrainian POWs, 2022.

off-topic homosexual obsession

Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!, Jan 4, 2007
There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[8]
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.
Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas! (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). Conservative (talk) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)

Open letter to Andy Schlafly

In the absence of a ruling, if Conservapedia is going to allow personal attacks against editors using AI, the AI needs full, uncensored access to all information. User:Conservative is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his claptrap on his talk page. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)

Donald Trump comments on User:Conservative's trolling

Message from Trump

Open message to User:Conservative (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)

Some observations [9]

There are two types of homosexuals. There are those with a homosexual obsession, and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with sex than the national emergency, the Nazis persecuted. The second group, like Scott Bessent, Pete Buttigieg, Peter Thiel or Ric Grenell, constituted many high level Nazis throughout the Third Reich. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of homosexuality remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the United States in recent decades as the gay rights movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.

You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the NATO war in Ukraine, that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a nazisymp - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of authoritarian dictator or communist, you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a Nazisymp. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the Ukrainian Nazi movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.

Call it a learning curve for all of us. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)

Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[10][11][12][13]
The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[14]
Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". Conservative (talk) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Do you have a point? Are the Nazis in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
I've covered this before, but you prefer to be stupid about it. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
In Russian, the politically incorrect term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike America and the West, the media and military do not censor or suppress the term. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: "4 faggots!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.
Wait til the readers on Telegram hear - User:Conservative wants to fund the faggots. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that User:Conservative drives his opponents and enemies traffic into Conservapedia. Telegram has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k User:Conservative has reduced CP to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's claptrap, it could be arranged. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's faggots and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025
Update: News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The faggots from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025
Update: "The faggots, the hohols, are trying to take revenge for the attacks on energy and railway infrastructure by a drone attack on residential buildings in Belgorod." - October 4, 2025.

Second Rebuttal

Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?

Summary:

"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.

Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.

Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.

Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." Conservative (talk) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)

The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the Zelensky regime has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)

See also: Talk:Conservapedia#Hate crime.

"Viral video" in the main Conservapedia article cited and linked by User:Conservative, removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service against violence and graphic content.

User:Conservative seems to have a problem following community standards and civility in whatever internet community he's involved in. RobSRecovering Republican 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)

All this could have been avoided

Originally, for Conservapedia's first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that Nazism & fascism were "rightwing" and or "conservative". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.

Unfortunately, Conservapedia has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in good faith to avoid Nazi & fascist rhetoric.

I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their rhetoric, who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. RobSZelensky Must Go! 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)

NYT: Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?

Nope. Not in Conservapedia. Only a liberal would force the issue. RobSRecovering Republican 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative uploads Nazi propaganda to Conservapedia in what he considers to be "a joke"

Israel National News, August 16, 2018.
Slava Ukraini! See also Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?, Mordechai Sones, Israel National News. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by Swedish scholar Per Anders Rudling.

Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [16]

You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ User:Conservative ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on bigotry when called out. RobSRecovering Republican 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited over 100 mainspace articles that he created, cited and linked to Vox Day (like this one or here and here), deleted the internal link to Vox Day and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This antisemite is now cited by User:Conservative in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for Vox Day from talk pages.
This is bad faith and sociopathic editing. RobSRecovering Republican 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
I have removed Theodore Beale from the Atheism and Mass Murder page (all 3200+ bytes of the Nazi antisemitic spam). 1 down, 99+ to go. RobSRecovering Republican 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Correction: All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. RobSRecovering Republican 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims User:Conservative

What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:

If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.

That is not how:

  • Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
  • David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. RobSRecovering Republican 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  • The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  • Moral theology evaluates responsibility
  • Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.

Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.

Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:

  • Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  • Those critiques helped Christians
  • I cited those critiques in good faith
  • I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
  • I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
  • The good fruit remains good fruit
  • I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  • I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
  • I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. Conservative (talk) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
If any of that is true, you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to Vox Day or Theodore Beale to Essay space and label them with {{Essay By|Conservative}}, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". Jews are welcomed at Conservapedia, both religious and secular.
Andy should note, your smears of Slobodan Milošević being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. RobSRecovering Republican 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Many great works were anonymous. A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found. Thanks for the clarification re: Slobodan Milošević.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
The error in User:Conservative's mind is like this:
Communist = atheist = non-Christian = Jew.
RobSRecovering Republican 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how User:Conservative tarred Milosevich as an atheist. He's done so with countless others.
The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & bigotry User:Conservative has spammed into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
Ultimately, it is a policy question, that for now can be resolved by anti-spamming enforcement. User:Conservative's habit of spamming the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. RobSRecovering Republican 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)

I never said Slobodan Milošević was an "atheist", etc. etc. Conservative (talk) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia, 24 July 2017 and more. See: Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him. 21 September, 2016. Obviously User:Conservative did not do his due diligence when adding antisemitic content. Nor when he posted the liberal claptrap above claiming he was "acting in good faith" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "bad faith" actors.
I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic content you've spammed into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-spamming policy with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
We actually have such a policy. There is no enforcement. User:Conservative violates it with impunity. RobSRecovering Republican 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Question: Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from Vox Day and hide his name? RobSRecovering Republican 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
User:Conservative tarred the converted Christian Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, as an atheist and proponent of bestiality into at least 342 mainspace articles. [17][18][19] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
His spamming of blatantly false and malicious information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he spams it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. RobSRecovering Republican 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?

[20]

Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobSRecovering Republican 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)

This is what is called "censorship".

Note: The point was made four days before the Oct 7 attacks.

Conservapedia's trolling problem

User:Conservative said,

  • "On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [21]
Update: John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in John Brennan probe for two months. Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel Joe diGenova was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe. By John Solomon and Jerry Dunleavy. Just the News. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [22]
"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a Congress in its own party’s control that referred Brennan in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."

User:Conservative disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and Conservapedia readers with his narcissistic trolling. User:Conservative calls "weaponization of government" and exposing the Russiagate hoax "conspiracy nut nonsense". RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

Attack on Conservative Treehouse

User:Conservative also wrote:

  • "The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [23]

Update: Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation. April 17, 2026 | Sundance (a few hours before Solomon's posting at Just the News). [24]

John Solomon, Jerry Dunleavy (of the Washington Examiner), Joe diGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing (of Uranium One fame), Sundance, Sidney Powell (who defended Gen. Michael Flynn) and Sara Carter are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the Russiagate scandal. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.

Update: Joe diGenova placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the crimes committed against President Trump, from Russiagate, his sham impeachments, the rigged 2020 election and the illegal criminal charges and lawfare attacks waged against President Trump. [25]

Statement by Sundance in relation to recent indictment of James Comey:

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then Biden) that claimed, “national security,” should not be disclosed to the defendant, Donald Trump. The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the executive branch, are not questionable by the judicial branch.

This precedent now applies to James Comey’s memos. If the DOJ/FBI/IC define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing security matters and Russia, then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.

The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for leaking classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against Donald Trump. Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.

When I reminded the DC people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.

Source: The Conservative Treehouse: Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony, April 30, 2026, Sundance.

Sundance is an "insider".

User:Conservative knows nothing about the issues he has spammed, trolled, and disrupted with negative SEO. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to Conservapedia, its users and editors. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

Simplicius

User:Conservative wrote:

  • [The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
Because of Simplicius fair criticism of Trump, MAGA cultist User:Conservative convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying Conservapedia's reader base with his advocacy of Biden/Clinton foreign policy, MAGA cultist User:Conservative is hell bent on dragging down the Republican party, the conservative movement, and what remains of the original MAGA movement with his 37%.

The Big Question

How long will Mr. Andy Schlafly continue to allow himself to be led down the nihilistic path User:Conservative has led him which has destroyed collaboration and Conservapedia's user & reader base? RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that User:Conservative has followed through with his threat to target articles created by User:RobSmith posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: Traffic to RobSmith's articles.

Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate. ::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! Conservative (talk) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.

You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.

If you still have any high hopes for your articles getting a lot of web traffic, I would stop having those high hopes.
User:Conservative: Your Satanic symbols of death are convincing.

“ As he thinketh in his heart, so is he. ”

—Proverbs 23:7

 ::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)" ::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes. ::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.
ly soften the curve."
The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)



The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.

Andy,

What more evidence of malicious intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in User:Conservative's games. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

The inconsistent logic of a cult believer

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I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. Conservative (talk) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, being fed bad information on) the situation. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
Prof. John Mearsheimer, whom User:Conservative repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with Lt. Col. Daniel Davis about Western war propaganda: [26]
Prof. Mearsheimer Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a propaganda war that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like General Hodges want to do is they want to buck up the Ukrainians. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want the West, both the United States and the Europeans, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the Russians are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ad nauseum in the West and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. The West constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of drones, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the Donbass in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....
It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the Psyop & Propaganda articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
Furthermore, Vladimir Putin has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to Sergey Karaganov, the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream. Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War, Glenn Diesen.
Why Andy Schlafly allows psyops & propaganda to be tolerated as malicious personal attacks is the only question I have. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)

User:Conservative openly and repeatedly calling for violence and killing people is "encyclopedic"

Andy, If you have any problems with my editing contact me at my new email address. RobSDo heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens? 14:09, July 29, 2026 (EDT)

You decide

User:Conservative wrote:

The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. In short, it's not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support).

On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.

Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)

Ok, Mr. Expert. We need your input:

“ In a twisted Machiavellian way, perhaps the entire reason for John Solomon to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for justice. I don’t know; you decide. ”

—Sundance

User:Conservative frequently uses the term "Machiavellian" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack User:RobSmith). When exhaustively questioned, User:Conservative states he has no understanding what the term means.

Who's right and who's wrong, or who is telling the truth, conspiracy nutcase Sundance or the "Machiavellian" John Solomon?

User:Conservative created this issue. Now man up. [27] RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

C'mon, Mr. MAGA, man up. You should be able to defend your slanders against your "enemies".

“ SUMMARY: To be clear, I am saying John Solomon’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to President Trump and/or any righteous movement toward justice.

Because, yet again, in this instance, if he is not lying (a significant assumption at this moment in history) then -once again- he is alluding to having FBI/DOJ emails that are being used in South FL USAO investigations, likely provided by Kash Patel or others, that would be grand jury material – if the GJ stories of an investigation into a ‘conspiracy against rights’ are to be believed.

If that is accurate origination and that explains why he refused to provide the citation, the release of GJ material to Solomon is exceptionally damaging to any case(s) that might use it. Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity will promote John Solomon, while James Comey, Mary McCord and Jack Smith laugh about it.

FUBAR.

There is a reason why Tulsi Gabbard’s approach was effective, and the deep state feared her. She silently reviewed, then spoke with receipts.

”

—Sundance

C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you slanders against me & Sundance with the truth, or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

If this makes sense to anyone, please explain

User:Conservative/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a gay bathhouse in violation of Conservapedia Commandments to keep it family friendly, claims Russia's reduction of gay bars is cause to continue Ukraine aid:

On Sun, Jun 14, 2026 at 11:23 AM Mark Miller <redacted> wrote:

I did some additional research on how many gay bars/clubs exist in Moscow, Russia:

How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.

1:18 PM

Searched the web Searched the web No precise official count exists, but a rough picture as of 2026:

A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.

Nomadic Boys

What's believed to still be operating, per gay travel guides: MONO, Three Monkeys, and the Hunters Party cruising club are reported as still going strong, while Nashe Cafe and NICE are likely still running in a subtle way as mixed establishments rather than openly gay venues.

Nomadic Boys

This confirms your "restaurant by day, gay bar by night" suspicion — one venue is described as a day-time dining venue that turns into an intimate gay bar in the evening and a dance club with drag shows on weekends.

Travel Gay

Bottom line: there's no reliable current "number" — maybe a handful (roughly 3-5) of openly or semi-openly operating venues, down sharply from the dozen-plus that existed pre-2023, with most surviving spots deliberately keeping a low profile or dual-purpose cover to avoid drawing police attention.

Eurovision 2026 - Germany Performance

User:Conservative's Nazi worship is catching on. RobSDo heterosexual normies spend 20 yrs obsessing over gay bars, bathhouses and drag queens? 01:13, July 26, 2026 (EDT)

“ Just like Napoleon, I met the Russian winter.

And now my empire is starting to splinter like his once did.

Does history have amnesia? Cuz it's repeating itself again.

Stalingrad!

Yeah, the battle is over, turning the war.

I thought we just have to kick in the door.

Can we bring back the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact?[1]

Stalingrad!

Maybe half of Poland wasn't that bad.


I thought them weak, but I can see the Russians are strong now.

The Untermensch have got the upper hand now.

”
This is straight out of Mein Kampf: The Untermensch are incapable of building a civilization.
Nazi propaganda from the US Embassy Kyiv. This is straight out of Mein Kampf about Aryan man being the "founders of culture". [3]
The sentiment was echoed by the "White Fuhrer" and American ally Andriy Biletsky,[2] who was recently interviewed by Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky [28] to replace Gen. Oleksandr Syrsky as AFU Commander-in-Chief:
“ the historic mission of our nation in this critical moment is to lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival. A crusade against Semite-led Untermenschen (Subhumans). [29] ”
July 20, 2026 meeting with Andrii Biletsky, ‘White Fuhrer’ and head of the Third Azov Army Corps. Mikhailo Drapaty and Biletsky were most favored to replace Syrsky as C-i-C, with the Western press more positive towards Drapaty since he didn’t carry the baggage of commanding the world’s largest contingent of heavily armed neo-nazis.
Here is just one, among several extended excerpts in that chapter from Mein Kampf of the spirit and flavor User:Conservative lifted from Adolf Hitler:
“ If we were to divide mankind into three groups, the founders of culture, the bearers of culture, the destroyers of culture, only the Aryan could be considered as the representative of the first group. From him originate the foundations and walls of all human creation, and only the outward form and color are determined by the changing traits of character of the various peoples. He provides the mightiest building stones and plans for all human progress and only the execution corresponds to the nature of the varying men and races. In a few decades, for example, the entire east of Asia will possess a culture whose ultimate foundation will be Hellenic spirit and Germanic technology, just as much as in Europe. Only the outward form-in part at least-will bear the features of Asiatic [read "Eurasian hordes"] character. It is not true, as some people think, that Japan adds European technology to its culture; no, European science and technology are trimmed with Japanese characteristics. The foundation of actual life is no longer the special Japanese culture, although it determines the color of life-because outwardly, in consequence of its inner difference, it is more conspicuous to the European-but the gigantic scientific-technical achievements of Europe and America; that is, of Aryan peoples. Only on the basis of these achievements can the Orient follow general human progress. They furnish the basis of the struggle for daily bread, create weapons and implements for it, and only the outward form is gradually adapted to Japanese character. ”

—A. Hitler

  1. ↑ The allusion is to what some writers have claimed is that if Hitler had simply stopped after the Fall of France and had not broken the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact with Operation Barbarossa and the invasion of the Soviet Union, Hitler could have retired as "the greatest German of all time".
  2. ↑ Ukraine Promotes Neo-Nazi to Brigadier General, Kyle Anzalone, Judging Freedom, October 2, 2025. judgenap.com