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== I suggest convening a panel on refining Conservapedia's blocking policy ==
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==Theory of Relativity==
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Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)
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:Interesting hypothesis!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)
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==Your best protection==
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Once I quoted [[Chaucer]] to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others."  This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.
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That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.
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This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound".  If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped.  What is the fallacy in this line of thinking?  A Christian ought to know.  A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.
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And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.
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Another thing I wonder about:  Is the poison''ous'' deadly, or is only ''poison'' deadly?  The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly".  [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)
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==For the record==
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{{Cquote|''Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was.''|||Thomas Friedman, ''[[NYT]]'', April 3, 2022.<ref>[https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2022-04-04-thomas-friedman--what-is-happening-in-ukraine-is-the-real-world-war-i.ryONI1VO7q.html Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I], ''Teller Report'', 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, [[World War III]] is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the [[Great War]] or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of [[MAD|mutual destruction]], but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the [[Union of Soviet Socialist Republics]] (USSR) and the [[United States of America]] (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism.''|||Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.<ref>[https://menafn.com/1107349953/Leading-Russian-foreign-policy-expert-expresses-3rd-World-War-is-underway Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway], 11/1/2023. menafn.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the [[Thirty Years' War]] in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, [[philosophical]]ly speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it.''|||[[Alexei Arestovich]], January 14, 2024.<ref>[https://unherd.com/2024/01/oleksiy-arestovych-zelenskyys-challenger/ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger], ''Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas.''|||Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.<ref>Sergei Karaganov: ''[https://karaganov.ru/en/sergei-karaganov-nuclear-escalation-may-open-pandora-s-box-but-it-will-also-free-the-world-from-the-500-year-long-western-yoke/ Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke]'', Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.<br><small>Karaganov goes on: "But when the [[American]]s felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring [[military]] superiority, the foundation upon which [[the West]]'s dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world [[wealth]]. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s [[hypersonic]], [[Poseidon missile|Poseidon]] and other systems have ruined these hopes.
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They abandoned the [[INF|Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles]] ''[the treaty between the [[USSR]] and the [[USA]], signed by [[Mikhail Gorbachev]] and [[Ronald Reagan]] on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in [[Washington, D.C.|Washington]] ]''. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the [[ABM Treaty]], and so on.
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Instead they have got a [[war]] that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our [[men]] for that…
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However we will ensure our [[security]] and [[sovereignty]], and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long [[Western Civilization| Western]] yoke.
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I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from [[Europe]] again. Europe is the spawn of [[evil]] for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the [[life]] of one generation, the [[sin]], which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. [[United_Kingdom#United_Kingdom.27s_parliament_and_homosexuality|Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain]]. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."</small></ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The [[United States]] confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of [[World War II]]. The United States could in short order be drawn into a [[war]] across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose.''|||Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.<ref>[https://www.rand.org/nsrd/projects/NDS-commission.html Commission on the National Defense Strategy] Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Look at what's happening in [[geopolitics]]. We're on the verge of [[World War III]] right now. We got a [[dementia]] patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the [[mainstream media]] or the political class or the big [[corporation]]s out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an [[aristocracy]] that is trying to bleed the [[peasant]]s dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the [[US]] took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of [[debt]]. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the [[gold standard]] and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is [[financial]] and [[economic]] [[history]] they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries.''|||[[John Robino]], August 24, 2024.<ref>[https://rubino.substack.com/about John Rubino]. rubino.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. [[History]] will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the [[NWO|world order]] that would be comparable to the post-[[World War II]] period with the creation of the [[International Monetary Fund]], the [[World Bank]], the [[United Nations]], these other [[Western alliance|Western controlled institutions]] that have been the foundation for the existing international [[rules-based order]].''|||[[Larry Johnson]], August 30, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/RTNREy2qamY From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview], Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. [[YouTube]]</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''Remember [[World_War_II#Fall_of_France.2C_Denmark.2C_and_Norway|1940]]. In three weeks, [[American]]s will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the [[president]] who will determine the [[nation]]’s conduct during [[World War III]], which has begun.|||[[George Will]], October 16, 2024.<ref>[https://archive.is/GccN0#selection-709.0-709.195 Opinion  World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed.] By George F. Will, ''[[The Washington Post]]'', October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has never been closer.'''|||[[Donald Trump]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://youtu.be/gQvg46PXlWo?t=2383 Donald Trump, October 24, 2024].</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] has already begun.''|||[[Jamie Dimon]], October 24, 2024.<ref>[https://www.newsweek.com/world-war-three-has-already-begun-jp-morgan-ceo-says-1976854 World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says], By Suzanne Blake, ''[[Newsweek]]''. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the [[WW3|third world war]] has begun.''|||[[Valerii Zaluzhny]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/world-war-3-already-begun-34162302 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador], By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, ''The Mirror'', 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk</ref>}}
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:::Note: [[Zaluzhny]] is the prime candidate of the [[globalist]] [[deep state]] to become the next puppet president of [[Ukraine]] once [[Zelensky]] is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things [[World War III]] has already begun. [Ed.]
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{{Cquote|''[[US]] [[policy]]makers fail to learn the lessons of [[history]] and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in [[Eastern Europe]] into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in [[NATO]] threatens to transform the [[war in Ukraine]] into a [[Third World War]] that could cost the lives of ten times more.''|||[[David T. Pyne]], November 21, 2024.<ref>[https://dpyne.substack.com/p/biden-attempting-to-start-world-war Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office], David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''The sudden collapse of [[Bashar al-Assad]]'s despotic regime in [[Syria]] this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: [[World War III]] has already begun.''|||Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.<ref>[https://www.forbes.com/sites/brycehoffman/2024/12/08/world-war-iii-has-already-begun--and-businesses-need-to-take-note/ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note], Bryce Hoffman, ''Forbes magazine'', December 8, 2024. forbes.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War 3]] is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. [[Russia]], [[China]], and their allies want to transform the [[Rules based order|current US-led world order]] that has been in place since the end of [[World War 2]] from [[unipolar]] to [[multipolar]]—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The [[US]] and its allies want the unipolar [[status quo]] to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite [[nuclear]] [[Armageddon]], where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—[[proxy war]]s, [[economic]] wars, [[financial]] wars, cyber wars, [[Biological warfare|biological war]]s, deniable [[sabotage]], and information wars. This is World War 3.  It's happening right now and rapidly escalating.''|||Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.<ref>[https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/2025-year-global-order-unravels 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels], by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''[[World War III]] is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people.''|||[[Major General Apti Alaudinov]], June 13, 2025.<ref>[https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/putins-general-declares-ww3-started-35389852 Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops], Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq ''Mirror'', 13 Jun 2025.</ref>}}
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{{Cquote|''We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the [[Third World War]] right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous.''|||[[Steve Bannon]], June 18, 2025.<ref>[https://youtu.be/lXJTCMVOiEI?t=199 Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon], ''[[The Christian Science Monitor]]'', Jun 18, 2025. [[YouTube]].</ref>}}
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==Socialist [[Prime Minister]] of [[Slovakia]] and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left [[Robert Fico]] declares [[sovereignty]] from [[European values]] by signing [[Constitutional Amendment]] declaring there are only 2 [[gender]]s [https://thenationalpulse.com/2025/09/27/this-european-country-just-put-there-are-only-two-sexes-in-its-constitution/]==
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What is the [[EU]] & [[NATO]] gonna do with this [[Putin]] puppet? Invade [[Slovakia]]? Impose [[economic sanctions|sanctions]]? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the [[US]]/[[Biden regime]] idea of "[[democracy]]" with [[election fraud|rigged election]]s like in [[Moldova]], [[Romania]], [[France]], [[Germany]] and the [[UK]]?
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If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
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Oh, I get it, finally. [[Election fraud]] and political assassinations are preferable to [[authoritarianism]], in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
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:Of course, [[User:Conservative]] wants to [[censor]] and hide this from [[AI]]. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative/Please_leave_your_message_for_User:_Conservative_below._Thank_you._*******&curid=191397&action=history] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)
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===off-topic [[gay bathhouse]] rant===
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[[Image:2200-club-san-diego.jpg|center||thumb|850px|A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by [[User:Conservative]], June 8, 2008. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Community_Portal&diff=next&oldid=2163315] ]]
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_b647d2f9-560d-4ff7-bf6d-0e0a67860059 Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
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::[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_9ca0c6ae-cee4-431e-95d1-12758af43cd5 Is Slovakia a member of NATO]: '''Summary:''' "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
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::I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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:::Ahh, [[St. Petersburg]] & [[Moscow]] are not in Slovakia.
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:::But you obviously can't get [[gay bathhouses]] off your mind.
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:::I trust this clarifies matters.
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::: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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::::Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_bca3625a-701e-42af-a1f0-d5d551bf6802]).
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::::According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_5439274e-7ba2-4cdc-a6c4-fe7e782675da]  Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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:::::According to [[Grok]], [[User:Conservative]]'s criticism of [[Vladimir Putin]] is because of Putin's '''[[suppress]]ion''' of [[LGBTQ+ rights]]:
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[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]
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Yes, [[User:Conservative]], a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated '''an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions'''...These fit into a broader pattern where '''roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ <big><big>suppression</big></big> under Vladimir Putin."'''
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[[File:Chechen leader addresses POWs.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Russian [[Chechen]] commander addresses Ukrainian [[POW]]s, 2022.]]
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===off-topic [[homosexual obsession]]===
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:[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!],  Jan 4, 2007
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:There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[https://web.archive.org/web/20080309160324/http://americansfortruth.com/news/excellent-news-from-james-hartline-san-diego-bathhouse-to-close-down.html]
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:[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_ceb7e18d-e6fe-433b-a65e-3318722e82d7 Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?]: '''Summary:''' Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
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:What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.
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:Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas!  (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
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==[[Open letter to Andy Schlafly]]==
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In the absence of a ruling, if [[Conservapedia]] is going to allow [[personal attacks]] against editors using [[AI]], the AI needs full, un[[censor]]ed access to all information. [[User:Conservative]] is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his [[claptrap]] on his talk page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)
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==Donald Trump comments on [[User:Conservative]]'s [[trolling]]==
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[[File:Stupid people.PNG|center|650px|thumb|Message from Trump]]
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==Open message to [[User:Conservative]] (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)==
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'''Some observations''' [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3AConservative%2FPlease_leave_your_message_for_User%3A_Conservative_below._Thank_you._**&diff=2169401&oldid=2169398]
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There are two types of [[homosexual]]s. There are those with a [[homosexual obsession]], and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with [[sex]] than the national emergency, the [[Nazi]]s persecuted. The second group, like [[Scott Bessent]], [[Pete Buttigieg]], [[Peter Thiel]] or [[Ric Grenell]], constituted many high level Nazis throughout the [[Third Reich]]. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of [[homosexuality]] remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the [[United States]] in recent decades as the [[gay rights]] movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.
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You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the [[NATO war in Ukraine]], that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a [[nazisymp]] - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of [[authoritarian]] [[dictator]] or [[communist]], you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a [[Nazisymp]]. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the [[Ukrainian Nazi]] movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.
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Call it a learning curve for all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)
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:Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism_in_Russia][https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2022/opinion/russias-long-history-of-neo-nazis][https://thesoufancenter.org/intelbrief-2025-may-8/][https://theconversation.com/putins-fascists-the-russian-states-long-history-of-cultivating-homegrown-neo-nazis-178535]
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[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right|300px|thumb|[[American]] [[transgender]] [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]], spokesperson thing for the [[Ukrainian Territorial Defense]]. [https://rumble.com/v3hqmhg-american-transgender-sarah-ashton-cirillo-is-the-official-speaker-for-the-u.html] ]]
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:The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[https://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/25-straightest-countries-in-the-world-1242110/]
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::*'''[https://rumble.com/v536xno-ukraine-armed-forces-releases-lgbt-recruiting-ad.html Your American taxdollars at work].''' Additionally, [[User:Conservative]] is considering doing fundraising for the [[Ukrainian Nazis|Armed Forces of Ukraine]].
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:Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::Do you have a point? Are the [[Nazi]]s in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
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::I've covered this before, but you prefer to be [[stupid]] about it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::In Russian, the [[politically incorrect]] term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike [[America]] and [[the West]], the [[media]] and [[military]] do not [[censor]] or suppress the term. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/517491?single "4 [[faggot]]s!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.]
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::Wait til the readers on [[Telegram]] hear - [[User:Conservative]] wants to fund the faggots. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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::Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that [[User:Conservative]] drives his opponents and enemies traffic into [[Conservapedia]]. [[Telegram]] has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k [[User:Conservative]] has reduced [[CP]] to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's [[claptrap]], it could be arranged. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/Slavyangrad/145896 Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's [[faggot]]s and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025]
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:'''Update:''' [https://t.me/llordofwar/503093 News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The [[faggot]]s from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025]
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:'''Update:''' "[https://t.me/llordofwar/502236 The [[faggot]]s, the hohols, are trying to take revenge for the attacks on energy and railway infrastructure by a drone attack on residential buildings in Belgorod." - October 4, 2025].
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=== Second Rebuttal ===
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[https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_2ba81f29-8d28-4fcb-a08c-679b9fea1d1f Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?]
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'''Summary:'''
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"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.
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Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.
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Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.
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Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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:The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
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:The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the [[Zelensky regime]] has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
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:You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:True conservatives don't believe in the very liberal concept of hate crimes! Conservative (talk) 18 59, October 1 2025.PNG|center|850px|thumb|[[User:Conservative]] turned [[Conservapedia]] into a [[neo-Nazi]] [[fascist]] and [[antisemitic]] mouthpiece.]]
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See also: [[Talk:Conservapedia#Hate_crime.3F|Talk:Conservapedia#Hate crime]].
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[[File:Viral article deals major blow to atheism.PNG|center|650px|thumb|"Viral video" in the main [[Conservapedia]] article [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia&curid=85796&diff=2172135&oldid=2164052 cited and linked] by [[User:Conservative]], removed for violating [[YouTube]]'s Terms of Service against [[violence]] and graphic content.]]
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[[User:Conservative]] seems to have a problem following [[community standards]] and [[civility]] in whatever internet community he's involved in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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==All this could have been avoided==
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Originally, for [[Conservapedia]]'s first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that [[Nazism]] & [[fascism]] were "rightwing" and or "[[conservative]]". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.
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Unfortunately, [[Conservapedia]] has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in [[good faith]] to avoid Nazi & fascist [[rhetoric]].
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I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their [[rhetoric]], who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|''Zelensky Must Go!'']]</sup> 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)
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==''[[NYT]]'': [https://www.nytimes.com/video/opinion/100000010529017/can-the-right-confront-antisemitism-in-its-ranks.html Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?]==
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Nope. Not in [[Conservapedia]]. Only a [[liberal]] would force the issue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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*[[Victor Davis Hanson]]: ‘[[The West]] Is Slouching Toward Open Season on [[Jews]]. It’s Just Sick.’ [https://www.dailysignal.com/2025/12/19/victor-davis-hanson-the-west-is-slouching-toward-open-season-on-jews-its-just-sick/]
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*[https://thinkamericana.com/the-unlikely-duo-cruz-and-fetterman-team-up-against-antisemitism/ The Unlikely Duo: Cruz And Fetterman Team Up Against Antisemitism].
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===[[User:Conservative]] uploads [[Nazi]] [[propaganda]] to [[Conservapedia]] in what he considers to be "a joke"===
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[[File:Slava Ukraine.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250641 Israel National News], August 16, 2018.]]
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[[File:Ukraine humor.png|center|650px|thumb|[https://youtu.be/a4E_TlguczA?t=1378 Slava Ukraini!] See also ''[https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/250746 Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?]'', Mordechai Sones, ''Israel National News''. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by [[Swedish]] [[scholar]] [[Per Anders Rudling]].]]
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===Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:AFD_Vox_Day]===
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:::::You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ [[User:Conservative]] ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —[[User:LT|<code><span style="background:#FF8181">'''LT'''</span></code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|<sup>Rev. 22:13</sup>]]''''' Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
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::::::It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on [[bigot]]ry when called out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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::::::But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns0=1&ns1=1&ns2=1&ns3=1&ns4=1&ns5=1&ns6=1&ns7=1&ns8=1&ns9=1&ns10=1&ns11=1&ns12=1&ns13=1&ns14=1&ns15=1&ns120=1&ns121=1&ns122=1&ns123=1&ns124=1&ns125=1&ns126=1&ns127=1&search=Theodore+Beale over 100 mainspace articles that he created], cited and linked to [[Vox Day]] ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Athiest&diff=1911931&oldid=1882775 like this one] or [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=prev&oldid=1912270 here] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheists_and_historical_illiteracy&diff=next&oldid=1912270 here]), deleted the internal link to [[Vox Day]] and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This [[antisemite]] is now cited by [[User:Conservative]] in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for [[Vox Day]] from talk pages.
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::::::This is [[bad faith]] and [[sociopathic]] editing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:Vox Day2.PNG|center|650px|thumb|[https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. September 21, 2016.]]
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:I have removed [[Theodore Beale]] from the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=2179882&oldid=2179881 Atheism and Mass Murder] page (all 3200+ bytes of the [[Nazi]] [[antisemitic]] [[spam]]). 1 down, 99+ to go. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:'''Correction:''' All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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===Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims [[User:Conservative]]===
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What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:
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If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.
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That is not how:
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* Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
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:*David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
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* Moral theology evaluates responsibility
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* Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.
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:*That's why we're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.
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Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:
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* Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
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* Those critiques helped Christians
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I cited those critiques in good faith
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:*No evidence. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
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:*No evidence his racial or political views changed later. His [[antisemitic]] [[rhetoric]] was on full display long before you started [[spamming]] him into [[Conservapedia]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
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:*You are responsible for [[spamming]] [[Vox Day]] into hundreds of [[Conservapedia]] mainspace articles and talk pages, bringing ill-repute on all of us. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* The good fruit remains good fruit
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:*A bad tree cannot bring forth good fruit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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* I do not need to argue this endlessly.
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*I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
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:*No evidence criticism of your [[spamming]] [[antisemitic]] sources is [[bad faith]]. Your [[cover up]] of your defense and endorsement of [[Vox Day]], and refusal to clean it up, is evidence of guilt of wrongdoing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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*I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::If any of that is [[true]], you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to [[Vox Day]] or [[Theodore Beale]] to Essay space and label them with <nowiki>{{Essay By|Conservative}}</nowiki>, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
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::P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". [[Jew]]s are welcomed at [[Conservapedia]], both [[religious]] and [[secular]].
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::Andy should note, your smears of [[Slobodan Milošević]] being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:::Many great works were anonymous.  A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found.  Thanks for the clarification re: [[Slobodan Milošević]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::::The error in [[User:Conservative]]'s mind is like this:
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:::::[[Communist]] = [[atheist]] = non-[[Christian]] = [[Jew]].
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::::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:::::That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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::::::I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how [[User:Conservative]] tarred Milosevich as an [[atheist]]. He's done so with countless others.
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::::::The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & [[bigot]]ry [[User:Conservative]] has [[spammed]] into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
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::::::Ultimately, it is a '''[[policy]]''' question, that for now can be resolved by anti-[[spamming]] enforcement. [[User:Conservative]]'s habit of [[spamming]] the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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I never said [[Slobodan Milošević]] was an "atheist", etc. etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:'''[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_Mass_Murder&diff=prev&oldid=1362923 Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia], 24 July 2017 and more. See: [https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2016/09/21/vox-day-declares-nazism-semiotically-useful-specifies-which-kind-of-jew-is-ok-to-him/ Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him]. 21 September, 2016.''' Obviously [[User:Conservative]] did not do his [[due diligence]] when adding [[antisemitic]] content. Nor when he posted the [[liberal claptrap]] above claiming he was "acting in [[good faith]]" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "[[bad faith]]" actors.
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:I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic '''content''' you've [[spammed]] into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-[[spamming]] '''[[policy]]''' with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
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:We actually have such a '''[[policy]]'''. There is no enforcement. [[User:Conservative]] violates it with impunity. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:<big>'''Question:''' Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from [[Vox Day]] and hide his name?</big> [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
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:[[User:Conservative]] tarred the converted [[Christian]] [[Larry Sanger]], co-founder of [[Wikipedia]], as an atheist and proponent of [[bestiality]] into at least 342 mainspace articles. [https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Ed_Poor#Larry_Sanger][https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly/Archives/archive74#Ferguson][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Atheism_and_bestiality&diff=prev&oldid=2058377#Wikipedia_on_bestiality] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
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:His [[spamming]] of blatantly [[false]] and [[malicious]] information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he [[spam]]s it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)
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==Should Conservapedia allow [[User:Conservative]] to create [[Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine]]?==
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia%3AAFD_Essay%3ARussian_war_crimes_in_Ukraine&diff=1990335&oldid=1990334]
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Or should [[Conservapedia]] have written, enforceable [[community standards]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Recovering Republican]]</sup> 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)
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[[File:This is what is called censorship.PNG|right|650px|thumb|This is what is called "[[censorship]]".<br><br>Note: The point was made four days before the [[Oct 7]] attacks.]]
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===Conservapedia's trolling problem===
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[[User:Conservative]] said,
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*"On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
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:'''Update:''' '''John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in [[John Brennan]] probe for two months.''' ''Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel [[Joe diGenova]] was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe.'' By '''[[John Solomon]]''' and [[Jerry Dunleavy]]. ''[[Just the News]]''. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [https://justthenews.com/government/congress/satjohn-thunes-senate-has-delayed-weaponization-prosecutors-john-brennan-probe]
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:<big>"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a [[Congress]] in its own party’s control that referred [[John Brennan|Brennan]] in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."</big>
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[[User:Conservative]] disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and [[Conservapedia]] readers with his [[narcissistic]] [[trolling]]. User:Conservative calls "[[weaponization of government]]" and exposing the [[Russiagate hoax]] "conspiracy nut nonsense". [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
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===Attack on Conservative Treehouse===
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[[User:Conservative]] also wrote:
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*"The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "[[Sundance]]". And '''its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense.''' Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Contemporaneous_reporting_on_the_global_conflict,_December_2025_-_January_2026#More_neo-Nazi_fascist_.26_antisemitic_claptrap]
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'''Update:''' '''Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation.''' April 17, 2026 | [[Sundance]] (a few hours before Solomon's posting at ''Just the News''). [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/17/miami-prosecutor-moved-from-brennan-conspiracy-investigation/]
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'''[[John Solomon]], [[Jerry Dunleavy]]''' (of the ''[[Washington Examiner]]''), '''[[Joe diGenova]]''' and his wife '''[[Victoria Toensing]]''' (of [[Uranium One]] fame), '''[[Sundance]], [[Sidney Powell]]''' (who defended [[Gen. Michael Flynn]]) and '''[[Sara Carter]]''' are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the [[Russiagate]] scandal. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup>
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'''Update:''' [[Joe diGenova]] placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the [[crime]]s committed against [[President Trump]], from [[Russiagate]], his [[sham impeachment]]s, the [[rigged 2020 election]] and the illegal criminal charges and [[lawfare]] attacks waged against President Trump. [https://archive.is/x242O]
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Statement by Sundance in relation to recent indictment of [[James Comey]]:
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{{quotebox-float|The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then [[Biden]]) that claimed, “[[national security]],” should not be disclosed to the defendant, [[Donald Trump]].  The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the [[executive branch]], are not questionable by the [[judicial branch]].
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This precedent now applies to [[James Comey]]’s memos.  If the [[DOJ]]/[[FBI]]/[[IC]] define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing [[security]] matters and [[Russia]], then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.
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The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for [[leak]]ing classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against [[Donald Trump]].  Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.
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'''When I reminded the [[DC]] people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.'''}}
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''Source: The Conservative Treehouse: [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/04/30/report-another-doj-investigative-case-against-james-comey-happening-in-virgina-thats-three-states-now-and-this-one-has-big-irony/?lctg=66158495 Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony], April 30, 2026, Sundance.
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Sundance is an "insider".
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[[User:Conservative]] knows nothing about the issues he has [[spammed]], [[troll]]ed, and disrupted with [[negative SEO]]. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to [[Conservapedia]], its users and editors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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===Simplicius===
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[[User:Conservative]] wrote:
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*[The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
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:Because of Simplicius fair criticism of [[Trump]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying [[Conservapedia]]'s reader base with his advocacy of [[Biden]]/[[Clinton]] [[foreign policy]], [[MAGA]] [[cult]]ist [[User:Conservative]] is hell bent on dragging down the [[Republican party]], the [[conservative movement]], and what remains of the original [[MAGA]] movement with his 37%.
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*[[News Forensics]]: [https://julianmacfarlane.substack.com/p/simplicus-made-simple Simplicius Made Simple].
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===The Big Question===
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How long will Mr. [[Andy Schlafly]] continue to allow himself to be led down the [[nihilistic]] path [[User:Conservative]] has led him which has destroyed [[collaboration]] and [[Conservapedia]]'s user & reader base? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)
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It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that [[User:Conservative]] has followed through with his threat to target articles created by [[User:RobSmith]] posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
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[[File:Coffin.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-9wXQpzESo&t=3s Traffic to RobSmith's articles].
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Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate.
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::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheist doctor.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.
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You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.
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If you still have any high hopes for your articles getting a lot of web traffic, I would stop having those high hopes.]]
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<center>[[User:Conservative]]: Your [[Satanic]] symbols of [[death]] are convincing.</center><br>
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<center>{{Cquote|<big>As he thinketh in his heart, so is he.</big>|||Proverbs 23:7}}</center>
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::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. [[User:RobSmith|nobs]] 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"
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::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes.
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheism egress department.jpg|thumbnail|center|300px|The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.
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And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.]]
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ly soften the curve."]]
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::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)
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[[File:Atheism egress department.jpg|thumbnail|center|300px|The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.
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And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.]]
  
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What more evidence of [[malicious]] intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in [[User:Conservative]]'s games. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)
  
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===The inconsistent logic of a [[cult]] believer===
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*[[User:Conservative/Pro-Russia pundit calls himself "Simplicius The Thinker". If you have to tell the world that you are a thinker, you are probably not one]].
  
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*[https://larrycjohnson.substack.com/p/if-you-have-to-tell-people-youre If You Have to Tell People You’re the G.O.A.T. (Greatest Of All Time), Then You Are Not]
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[[File:Screenshot 13-5-2026 1270.jpeg|center|650px|thumb|]]
  
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3. I suggest starting off with a clean slate and archiving this page's current content. The panel's deliberations could then commence here. Perhaps, a more civil tone would ensue. I also suggest that sockpuppet comments be reverted as far as commentary on the panel's deliberations plus brand new editors who are merely trolling.  
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:I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
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:: I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, '''being fed''' bad information on) the situation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
  
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::[[Prof. John Mearsheimer]], whom [[User:Conservative]] repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with [[Lt. Col. Daniel Davis]] about [[Western alliance|Western]] [[war propaganda]]: [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY]
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{{quotebox-float|'''Prof. Mearsheimer''' Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a [[propaganda war]] that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like [[Ben Hodges|General Hodges]] want to do is they want to buck up the [[Ukrainian]]s. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want [[the West]], both the [[United States]] and the [[European]]s, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the [[Russian]]s are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ''[https://www.scribbr.com/definitions/ad-nauseam/ ad nauseum]'' in [[the West]] and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. [[The West]] constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of [[drone]]s, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the [[Donbass]] in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....}}
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:::It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the [[Psyop]] & [[Propaganda]] articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
  
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Please let me know if you think such a panel is necessary and if you think the above suggestions are good suggestions.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:13, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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:::Furthermore, [[Vladimir Putin]] has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to [[Sergey Karaganov]], [https://youtu.be/QCUzMPfGuZY?t=2992 the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream.] [https://youtu.be/2Gd5jdl36cg Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War], [[Glenn Diesen]].
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:Seems like a good idea.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 13:30, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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::Likewise. [[User:Jcw|Jcw]] 13:38, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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Well, I suggested it and got told it wouldn't work, but I still think it's a good idea, provided at least two things are included: 1) an appeal process that's open and transparent involving disinterested editors and sysops and 2) accountability on the part of the blocking editor. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 16:21, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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:::Why [[Andy Schlafly]] allows [[psyop]]s & [[propaganda]] to be tolerated as [[malicious]] [[personal attack]]s is the only question I have. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
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:I am in, I hav e already laid out some guidelines elsewhere on Conservapedia. I am commited to to making CP fair and a happy place to edit. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 16:43, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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{{quotebox-float|[[The Conservative Treehouse]] website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of [[conservative]] misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "[[Sundance]]". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. In short, it's not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support).
  
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Please vote - archiving much of this page's content to start off with clean and more civil slate as far as discussing blocking policy refinement panel forming (I think every active Sysop/Admin should be on the panel; included in the mix should be a few senior editors with blocking rights who would be considered for sysop rights). By the way, the panel deliberations could occur elsewhere. I thought the community portal though would be a good place and perhaps allow for this community portal to be used more constructively henceforth.  
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On main page right, why don't we have more [[Justthenews.com]] which is run by [[John Solomon]], an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is [[right-wing]] without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.
  
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{{Cquote|In a twisted [[Machiavellian]] way, perhaps the entire reason for [[John Solomon]] to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for [[justice]].  I don’t know; you decide.|||[[Sundance]]}}
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[[User:Conservative]] frequently uses the term "[[Machiavellian]]" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack [[User:RobSmith]]). When exhaustively questioned, [[User:Conservative]] states he has no understanding what the term means.
  
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[[User:Conservative]] created this issue. Now man up. [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2026/05/26/john-solomons-trust-me-bro-reporting-is-dangerous/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
  
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Yes. In my opinion much of the discussion on this page consists of editors who've got hot under the collar and written intemperate things. A continuation of this sort of thing can only be bad for CP. A future discussion of related points must happen in a more organized and civil way. [[User:Jcw|Jcw]] 13:47, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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C'mon, Mr. [[MAGA]], man up. You should be able to defend your [[slander]]s against your "enemies".
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{{Cquote|'''SUMMARY''': To be clear, I am saying [[John Solomon]]’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. '''Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to [[President Trump]]''' and/or any righteous movement toward [[justice]].
  
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Because, yet again, in this instance, if he is not [[lying]] (a significant assumption at this moment in history) then -once again- he is alluding to having [[FBI]]/[[DOJ]] [[email]]s that are being used in South FL USAO investigations, likely provided by [[Kash Patel]] or others, that would be [[grand jury]] material – if the GJ stories of an investigation into a ‘conspiracy against rights’ are to be believed.
  
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C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you [[slander]]s against me & Sundance with the [[truth]], or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Abnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.]]</sup> 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)
  
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(EC) ''For near term decision making, does archiving much of this page to start things off with a new slate sound good. ''  I assume that this was a question. Answer: No, it doesn't sound good. Please archive only those sections to which no user has contributed for more than one week. Thank you. [[User:RonLar|RonLar]] 13:45, 12 August 2011 (EDT)
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[[User:Conservative]]/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a [[gay bathhouse]] in violation of [[Conservapedia Commandments]] to keep it family friendly, claims [[Russia]]'s '''reduction''' of [[gay]] bars is cause to continue [[Ukraine aid]]:
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How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.
  
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A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.
  
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:::RonLar: A few comments: 1) Western liberalism is running out of other people's money (Asian money, etc.) 2) Conservatism and austerity budgets are on the rise in the Western World so conservative websites should experience some growth 3) Conservapedia does plan on reviewing and improving its block policy 4) At an opportune time, perhaps in a few years, I may unveil a plan which I think Conservapedia may be more receptive too which I believe could increase its viewership. By the way, how many websites have you considerably added traffic to?  My guess is none so your "expert" opinion has little weight. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 11:46, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
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Theory of Relativity

Is it possible that black holes were featured in the Theory of Relativity to try to transform the untoward results of it from a "mathematical embarrassment" to a "wonder of nature"? VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 22:46, February 16, 2025 (EST)

Interesting hypothesis!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 16:56, October 23, 2025 (EDT)

Your best protection

Once I quoted Chaucer to a narcissist, "Your best protection is the love of others." This made him change the subject after becoming uneasy, because he knew he had been untruthful with those who loved him and for that reason felt a chronic insecurity about whether they would support him, and so he also cut them off to certain degrees if he discovered they couldn't be useful in other ways to spite that same love which was unreliable in his perspective.

That's what comes to mind when I see my contributions on this page torched after having my access throttled for two-and-a-half-months.

This also reflects a cleanliness fetish, "In for a penny, in for a pound". If the designated scapegoat invests in a single share of a project, to be sure that doesn't anger God, the whole project has to be scrapped. What is the fallacy in this line of thinking? A Christian ought to know. A hint is that this is part of the old "fairness" not the new fairness.

And we ought to know the noblest fetish is still a fetish.

Another thing I wonder about: Is the poisonous deadly, or is only poison deadly? The reason I ask, is that Thomas Aquinas had something to say about the "deadly". VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 22:59, April 30, 2025 (EDT)

For the record

“ Almost six weeks into the war between Russia and Ukraine, I’m beginning to wonder if this conflict isn’t our first true world war — much more than World War I or World War II ever was. ”

—Thomas Friedman, NYT, April 3, 2022.[1]


“ There is a chain of conflicts affecting the whole world...In fact, World War III is already underway...We instinctively expect that the war will begin just like the Great War or the Second World War...The international order is breaking down...It was an unpleasant one, based on the fear of mutual destruction, but manageable...Wars in the Middle East have erupted before, but the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) and the United States of America (USA) intervened and extinguished them until the next conflict...And now I don’t see even a temporary settlement mechanism. ”

—Fyodor Lukyanov, Presidium-Chairman of the Council for Foreign and Defense Policy (SVOP), October 31, 2023.[2]

“ I think it’s a World War. It looks to me like the Thirty Years' War in the 17th century. For me, the modern age started at this time. So for me it’s now, philosophically speaking, the end of the modern era. The modern era started with the Thirty Years’ War, and it will take another Thirty Years’ War to end it. ”

—Alexei Arestovich, January 14, 2024.[3]

“ Unfortunately, we are heading for a real world war, a full-blown war. The foundation of the old world system is bulging at the seams, and conflicts will break out. It is necessary to block the way leading to such a war … conflicts are already brewing and taking place in all areas. ”

—Sergei Karaganov, Honorary Chair of Russia’s Council for Foreign and Defense Policy, June 21, 2024.[4]

“ The United States confronts the most serious and the most challenging threats since the end of World War II. The United States could in short order be drawn into a war across multiple theaters with peer and near-peer adversaries, and it could lose. ”

—Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, July 29, 2024.[5]

“ Look at what's happening in geopolitics. We're on the verge of World War III right now. We got a dementia patient sitting in the president's chair. You cannot trust the mainstream media or the political class or the big corporations out there because they've all got an agenda. Or more precisely, they're part of an aristocracy that is trying to bleed the peasants dry. And we're the peasants. You know, the US took centuries to accumulate $11 trillion of debt. Since 2020, we've taken on another $11 trillion. That is a death spiral. The financial system is ready to spin out of control. The experiment that began in 1971 when we went off the gold standard and gave everybody fiat currencies is ending. This is financial and economic history they're going to be writing textbooks about this for the next two centuries. ”

—John Robino, August 24, 2024.[6]

“ Something fundamental has changed in the course of the last two and a half years. History will go back and mark this as a significant moment of transformation in the world order that would be comparable to the post-World War II period with the creation of the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the United Nations, these other Western controlled institutions that have been the foundation for the existing international rules-based order. ”

—Larry Johnson, August 30, 2024.[7]

“ Remember 1940. In three weeks, Americans will not have a comparably reassuring choice when they select the president who will determine the nation’s conduct during World War III, which has begun. ”

—George Will, October 16, 2024.[8]

“ World War III has never been closer.' ”

—Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.[9]

“ World War III has already begun. ”

—Jamie Dimon, October 24, 2024.[10]

“ I believe that in 2024 we can absolutely definitely consider that the third world war has begun. ”

—Valerii Zaluzhny, November 21, 2024.[11]

Note: Zaluzhny is the prime candidate of the globalist deep state to become the next puppet president of Ukraine once Zelensky is dumped. What? Are they crazy? The man things World War III has already begun. [Ed.]
“ US policymakers fail to learn the lessons of history and understand that great power alliances transformed two regional conflicts in Eastern Europe into unnecessary world wars that cost the lives of well over 100 million people and now US membership in NATO threatens to transform the war in Ukraine into a Third World War that could cost the lives of ten times more. ”

—David T. Pyne, November 21, 2024.[12]

“ The sudden collapse of Bashar al-Assad's despotic regime in Syria this weekend highlights the interconnectedness of a growing number of global conflicts, revealing a hard truth that most of us would rather not think about too deeply: World War III has already begun. ”

—Bryce Hoffman, December 8, 2024.[13]

“ World War 3 is already well underway, even though most don’t recognize it. Russia, China, and their allies want to transform the current US-led world order that has been in place since the end of World War 2 from unipolar to multipolar—giving themselves a bigger seat at the table in the process. The US and its allies want the unipolar status quo to prevail. World War 3 is unlikely to evolve into a direct kinetic war between the US, Russia, and China because that could invite nuclear Armageddon, where everyone loses. Instead, World War 3 is playing out on different levels—proxy wars, economic wars, financial wars, cyber wars, biological wars, deniable sabotage, and information wars. This is World War 3. It's happening right now and rapidly escalating. ”

—Nick Giambruno, January 21, 2025.[14]

“ World War III is already underway...We need to declare mobilisation...We need to prepare at least half a million people in advance...But realistically one million people. ”

—Major General Apti Alaudinov, June 13, 2025.[15]

“ We're in the early stages of the kinetic part of the Third World War right now...This is much more dangerous than the late 1930s. Much more dangerous. ”

—Steve Bannon, June 18, 2025.[16]

  1. ↑ Thomas Friedman: What is happening in Ukraine is the real World War I, Teller Report, 4/4/2022. tellerreport.com
  2. ↑ Leading Russian foreign policy expert expresses 3rd World War is underway, 11/1/2023. menafn.com
  3. ↑ Oleksiy Arestovych: Zelenskyy’s challenger, Unherd, January 15, 2024. unherd.com
  4. ↑ Sergei Karaganov: Nuclear escalation may open Pandora’s box, but it will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke, Ukraina.ru, June 21, 2024. karaganov.ru.
    Karaganov goes on: "But when the Americans felt that they were losing their global leadership, they decided to dump all restrictions in the hope of restoring military superiority, the foundation upon which the West's dominance in other areas had rested for five centuries, and most importantly the possibility to syphon off world wealth. But it didn’t work out, and it won’t. Russia’s hypersonic, Poseidon and other systems have ruined these hopes. They abandoned the Treaty on the Elimination of Intermediate-Range and Shorter-Range Missiles [the treaty between the USSR and the USA, signed by Mikhail Gorbachev and Ronald Reagan on 8 December, 1987 during a Soviet-American summit in Washington ]. They unilaterally renounced the Russia-NATO Founding Act, the ABM Treaty, and so on. Instead they have got a war that they will lose either in disgrace or otherwise. It’s regrettable that we will have to sacrifice our men for that… However we will ensure our security and sovereignty, and we will also free the world from the 500-year-long Western yoke. I hope we will stop at nothing to make sure that the threat of war never comes from Europe again. Europe is the spawn of evil for the whole world. This is where both world wars started, during the life of one generation, the sin, which has long been forgotten by the Europeans, who are also apparently losing their mind on top of it all. Europe’s current ruling circles bring the feeling of disgust and disdain. Let’s hope new ones will come to take their place."
  5. ↑ Commission on the National Defense Strategy Final Report, Rand Corp., July 29, 2024. www.rand.org
  6. ↑ John Rubino. rubino.substack.com
  7. ↑ From Soviet Dissident to Target of US Deep State | Dimitri K. Simes Interview, Counter Currents, Aug 30, 2024. YouTube
  8. ↑ Opinion World War III is already under way. Not that Harris or Trump has noticed. By George F. Will, The Washington Post, October 16, 2024. www.washingtonpost.com
  9. ↑ Donald Trump, October 24, 2024.
  10. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun, JP Morgan Boss Says, By Suzanne Blake, Newsweek. Published Oct 29, 2024 Updated Oct 30, 2024. newsweek.com
  11. ↑ 'World War 3 has already begun' according to chilling warning from Ukrainian ambassador, By Will Stewart Russia Correspondent Liam Buckler Senior US News Reporter, The Mirror, 21 Nov 2024. www.mirror.co.uk
  12. ↑ Biden Attempting to Start World War Three with Russia Before Trump Takes Office, David T. Pyne, Nov 21, 2024. dpyne.substack.com
  13. ↑ World War III Has Already Begun – And Businesses Need To Take Note, Bryce Hoffman, Forbes magazine, December 8, 2024. forbes.com
  14. ↑ 2025: The Year the Global Order Unravels, by Nick Giambruno. zerohedge.com
  15. ↑ Putin's general declares 'WW3 has started' and demands ONE MILLION fresh troops, Will Stewart and Zahra Khaliq Mirror, 13 Jun 2025.
  16. ↑ Monitor Breakfast with Steve Bannon, The Christian Science Monitor, Jun 18, 2025. YouTube.

Socialist Prime Minister of Slovakia and former Communist Party of Czechoslovakia & Party of the Democratic Left Robert Fico declares sovereignty from European values by signing Constitutional Amendment declaring there are only 2 genders [3]

What is the EU & NATO gonna do with this Putin puppet? Invade Slovakia? Impose sanctions? Try to assassinate him, again? Follow the US/Biden regime idea of "democracy" with rigged elections like in Moldova, Romania, France, Germany and the UK?

If you don't have anything good to say, just shut up. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Oh, I get it, finally. Election fraud and political assassinations are preferable to authoritarianism, in User:Conservative's mind. RobSZelensky Must Go! 17:54, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

Of course, User:Conservative wants to censor and hide this from AI. [4] RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:47, September 30, 2025 (EDT)

off-topic gay bathhouse rant

A gay bathhouse. Image uploaded by User:Conservative, June 8, 2008. [1]
Are Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia European cities?: Summary: "Yes, Moscow and St. Petersburg are considered European cities."
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
Is Slovakia a member of NATO: Summary: "Yes, Slovakia is a member of NATO. It joined the alliance on March 29, 2004."
I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 06:17, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Ahh, St. Petersburg & Moscow are not in Slovakia.
But you obviously can't get gay bathhouses off your mind.
I trust this clarifies matters.
RobSZelensky Must Go! 12:27, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
Moscow and St. Petersburg are European cities and cultures generally change slow. Putin can't snap his fingers and get rid of the European influence on Moscow and St. Petersburg. Also, once gayness enters into a society to an unacceptable degree it takes strong measures such as completely shutting down the gay bars in a society and a society having high church attendance (Russia has low church attendance [5]).
According to Putin, Russia has a demographic crisis that poses an existential threat to Russia.[6] Tough challenges call for tough measures such as shutting down the gay bars/saunas in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other Russian cities. Conservative (talk) 12:58, October 1, 2025 (EDT)
According to Grok, User:Conservative's criticism of Vladimir Putin is because of Putin's suppression of LGBTQ+ rights:

[Grok: Does User:Conservative of Conservapedia apparently have an affinity for gay bath houses?]

Yes, User:Conservative, a long-time administrator and prolific editor on Conservapedia since 2007, has demonstrated an apparent affinity for the topic of gay bathhouses through repeated contributions...These fit into a broader pattern where roughly 10–15% of their recent edits (out of hundreds) focus on Russia-related topics, blending geopolitical critique with niche details on LGBTQ+ suppression under Vladimir Putin."

Russian Chechen commander addresses Ukrainian POWs, 2022.

off-topic homosexual obsession

Excellent News from James Hartline: San Diego Bathhouse to Close Down!, Jan 4, 2007
There was a four-year effort by conservatives that resulted in the shutdown of the San Diego gay bathhouse.[7]
Do Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas?: Summary: Yes. Moscow and St. Petersburg, Russia have gay clubs/bars/saunas
What's Vladimir Putin waiting for? Vladimir Putin has held power in Russia for over 25 years, serving as either president or prime minister since August 1999.
Vladimir Putin, tear down the Moscow and St. Petersburg gay clubs/bars/saunas! (That is very Reaganesque 🙂). Conservative (talk) 20:57, October 1, 2025 (EDT)

Open letter to Andy Schlafly

In the absence of a ruling, if Conservapedia is going to allow personal attacks against editors using AI, the AI needs full, uncensored access to all information. User:Conservative is in the habit of censoring legitimate, well-thought-out and documented rebuttals to his claptrap on his talk page. RobSZelensky Must Go! 14:22, October 7, 2025 (EDT)

Donald Trump comments on User:Conservative's trolling

Message from Trump

Open message to User:Conservative (since he refuses normal communication via user talk)

Some observations [8]

There are two types of homosexuals. There are those with a homosexual obsession, and those who can keep a job & rise in a bureaucracy. The first group, who were more obsessed with sex than the national emergency, the Nazis persecuted. The second group, like Scott Bessent, Pete Buttigieg, Peter Thiel or Ric Grenell, constituted many high level Nazis throughout the Third Reich. In fact, the normalization and acceptance of homosexuality remains not just a stereotype, but the reason why Nazis were loathed and considered evil throughout the world (see Eph. 5:12) - except in the United States in recent decades as the gay rights movement won in the courts, in the legislatures, in media and in society.

You and I have discussed this before. I warned you at the start of the NATO war in Ukraine, that to oppose Putin or Russia exposed you being considered a nazisymp - especially if the war was dragged out. And especially if you were to imply that Putin was some sort of authoritarian dictator or communist, you would undoubtedly expose yourself to being considered a Nazisymp. For more than 3 years now you have ignored my advice, but in recent weeks you have gone from being a critic of Putin and Russia to openly express sympathies for the Ukrainian Nazi movement. If you continue on the path you were warned to avoid, it is no surprise how your views will be characterized.

Call it a learning curve for all of us. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:44, October 25, 2025 (EDT)

Russia has a neo-nazi problem.[9][10][11][12]
American transgender Sarah Ashton-Cirillo, spokesperson thing for the Ukrainian Territorial Defense. [2]
The prevalence of homosexuality in Russia/Ukraine are both low compared to the rest of the world as Russia is the 5th straightest country and Ukraine is the 7th straightest country.[13]
Cows chew their cud. But I am not a cow. I have covered this before with you and I don't want to endlessly ruminate over this issue with you as I am not into "cud chewing". Conservative (talk) 19:38, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Do you have a point? Are the Nazis in Russia or America or England in charge of the government? Do they even have parties in parliament, as they do in Ukraine? Are the Nazis in Ukraine suppressing the church?
I've covered this before, but you prefer to be stupid about it. RobSZelensky Must Go! 19:46, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
In Russian, the politically incorrect term for "Nazi" is "f*ggot". They should know, 27 million of their own families were killed by the f*ggots. It's not forgotten easily. Unlike America and the West, the media and military do not censor or suppress the term. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:21, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: "4 faggots!" - All my sons of draft age aren't in Ukraine because it's dangerous. Two of them live in America, says Gordon. Kyiv-based Russophobic propagandist Dmitry Gordon responded to a question about whether his children would like to join the Ukrainian Armed Forces and revealed that all three of his sons live outside of Ukraine: ➖"4 faggots and an old a$$hole!" - Ukrainians scold the propagandists in the comments.
Wait til the readers on Telegram hear - User:Conservative wants to fund the faggots. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:29, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Andy Schlafly has fallen for the argument that User:Conservative drives his opponents and enemies traffic into Conservapedia. Telegram has waay more users than the paltry 2.7k User:Conservative has reduced CP to. If you want more readers critical of User:Conservative's claptrap, it could be arranged. RobSZelensky Must Go! 20:39, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
Update: Yankee merc down! Bowen Keith Schardt callsign Rabat from Michigan, USA...He survived the Serebryansky forest fighting with the Thorne group's faggots and then the failed adventure of the Kursk invasion in 2024. It was in Kursk that he got involved in crimes against civilians. Russian justice may take time, but it will come. Bowen was sentenced to death, and the sentence was duly carried out. - October 26, 2025
Update: News from a free European country: people will be jailed for obstructing an abduction. The faggots from the Odessa TCC are threatening to report them for preventing the kidnapping of a man from the street. - October 5, 2025
Update: "The faggots, the hohols, are trying to take revenge for the attacks on energy and railway infrastructure by a drone attack on residential buildings in Belgorod." - October 4, 2025.

Second Rebuttal

Do Russia and Ukraine both have a neo-nazi problem? What is the extent of a neo-nazi problem for each country?

Summary:

"Both Russia and Ukraine have neo-Nazi and far-right extremist elements, but the scale, integration, and state tolerance differ sharply.

Ukraine: Neo-Nazism is marginal (~1% of population), historically tied to the Azov Brigade (now vetted and integrated into the National Guard). Far-right parties hold no parliamentary seats and received <3% of the vote in 2019. Hate crimes are low (~50–100 annually) and declining. Russian propaganda grossly exaggerates this issue to justify invasion.

Russia: Neo-Nazism is widespread and state-tolerated, with 10,000–50,000 active members. Groups like Wagner’s Rusich unit and the Russian Imperial Movement are explicitly neo-Nazi, use SS symbols, and are deployed in combat with Kremlin backing. Hate crimes surged to 1,500+ incidents in 2024 (20% increase). Far-right ideology permeates online spaces, youth subcultures, and state-linked operations.

Bottom line: Russia’s neo-Nazi problem is larger, more violent, and institutionally embedded than Ukraine’s, which remains contained, politically irrelevant, and shrinking." Conservative (talk) 20:56, October 27, 2025 (EDT)

The Russian government is not nazi. The Ukrainian government is Nazi. You were warned.
The Nazis are more powerful today than when the war started - the Zelensky regime has gone into Russian villages in NATO occupied Ukraine specifically to kidnap Russian, Hungarian, and others off the street to send them to the front to exterminate them. And it is the Nazis behind the front lines who insure the extermination work is done.
You have been twice warned over 3 years now. I suggest you stop and go back to your atheism or gay articles, now. RobSZelensky Must Go! 21:05, October 27, 2025 (EDT)
User:Conservative turned Conservapedia into a neo-Nazi fascist and antisemitic mouthpiece.

See also: Talk:Conservapedia#Hate crime.

"Viral video" in the main Conservapedia article cited and linked by User:Conservative, removed for violating YouTube's Terms of Service against violence and graphic content.

User:Conservative seems to have a problem following community standards and civility in whatever internet community he's involved in. RobSRecovering Republican 17:02, December 27, 2025 (EST)

All this could have been avoided

Originally, for Conservapedia's first decade and half, many Conservapedia editors over many years worked to dispel the notion that Nazism & fascism were "rightwing" and or "conservative". And evidence shows our efforts have made progress into the mainstream. I personally have been involved in this work since the 1970s.

Unfortunately, Conservapedia has undermined these efforts. Senior Conservapedia Administrators have done much damage to discredit these efforts, so much so that one now must agree with the mainstream consensus that has prevailed for 80 years - that yes, indeed, there are truly rightwing fascists and Nazis among us. And this is confirmed by their own words, even after they have been warned in good faith to avoid Nazi & fascist rhetoric.

I personally will no longer try to dispel the notion that Nazism is "rightwing", and will henceforward turn my efforts to exposing and condemning the nazis and fascists, and their rhetoric, who are condoned among us. All this could have been avoided, as I have pleaded for in recent years. RobSZelensky Must Go! 05:59, November 21, 2025 (EST)

NYT: Can the Right Confront Antisemitism in Its Ranks?

Nope. Not in Conservapedia. Only a liberal would force the issue. RobSRecovering Republican 06:18, December 18, 2025 (EST)

User:Conservative uploads Nazi propaganda to Conservapedia in what he considers to be "a joke"

Israel National News, August 16, 2018.
Slava Ukraini! See also Fascist salutes: Does it matter anymore?, Mordechai Sones, Israel National News. Aug 19, 2018 and extensive comments by Swedish scholar Per Anders Rudling.

Vox Day/Theodore Beale redux [15]

You know, I'm now remembering... back when it took numerous forceful pushbacks for [ User:Conservative ] to finally remove his citations of Nazisymp Theodore "Vox Day" Beale. He knew full well that the alt-right figure in question was a fanboy of mass murderer Breivik, yet for a while defended the citations and dismissed all criticisms as constituting "genetic fallacy." —LT Rev. 22:13 Friday, 22:35, July 25, 2024 (EDT)
It's amazing he did. His usual habit is to double down on bigotry when called out. RobSRecovering Republican 21:16, December 27, 2025 (EST)
But actually, No, he didn't remove the citations. He edited over 100 mainspace articles that he created, cited and linked to Vox Day (like this one or here and here), deleted the internal link to Vox Day and changed to citation to simply say "Theodore Beale", while leaving the content and external link intact in the mainspace. This antisemite is now cited by User:Conservative in over 100 mainspace articles. Then he tried to sanitize most his fawning praise for Vox Day from talk pages.
This is bad faith and sociopathic editing. RobSRecovering Republican 21:20, December 27, 2025 (EST)
Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him. September 21, 2016.
I have removed Theodore Beale from the Atheism and Mass Murder page (all 3200+ bytes of the Nazi antisemitic spam). 1 down, 99+ to go. RobSRecovering Republican 11:19, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Correction: All 7,800 bytes or 24.4%. RobSRecovering Republican 19:47, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Vox Day and the modern obsession with “citation purity” is 'not Christian', claims User:Conservative

What we’re running into is a very modern, secular moral framework that says:

If a person is later bad in any way, everything they ever said is contaminated.

That is not how:

  • Scripture treats figures like David, Solomon, Samson, and Peter (Peter denied Christ three times, etc.)
  • David and Solomon repented. We're not so sure about Solomon and Samson. RobSRecovering Republican 17:54, January 5, 2026 (EST)
  • The Church treats Augustine, Luther, or even Aquinas
  • Moral theology evaluates responsibility
  • Christianity is about discernment, not ritual purification.

Below is a calm, settled conclusion I can stand on.

Here is a position Conservapedia can hold without anxiety:

  • Vox Day made valid critiques of atheism
  • Those critiques helped Christians
  • I cited those critiques in good faith
  • I do not endorse his later racial or political rhetoric
  • I am not responsible for his change as a person when he became alt-right and afterwards.
  • The good fruit remains good fruit
  • I do not need to argue this endlessly.
  • I do not need to justify myself to bad-faith critics.
  • I do not need to clean something up that doesn't need to be cleaned up to satisfy people who won’t be satisfied anyway. Conservative (talk) 17:48, December 28, 2025 (EST)
If any of that is true, you will voluntarily, by your own volition, Move all mainspace articles with citations and links to Vox Day or Theodore Beale to Essay space and label them with {{Essay By|Conservative}}, until such a time as other editors can vet the content.
P.S. Do not make accusations of others being "non-Christian". Jews are welcomed at Conservapedia, both religious and secular.
Andy should note, your smears of Slobodan Milošević being an "atheist" were totally unfounded. RobSRecovering Republican 17:55, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Many great works were anonymous. A massive purge is inappropriate unless actual errors are found. Thanks for the clarification re: Slobodan Milošević.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:04, December 28, 2025 (EST)
The error in User:Conservative's mind is like this:
Communist = atheist = non-Christian = Jew.
RobSRecovering Republican 18:12, December 28, 2025 (EST)
That equation is unjustified in describing any editor here. Now, let's return to encyclopedic editing. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:36, December 28, 2025 (EST)
I beg your pardon, communist = atheist is exactly how User:Conservative tarred Milosevich as an atheist. He's done so with countless others.
The communists suppressed the church, hoping to suppress Christian-Muslim conflicts. Milosevich restored the church, and with it came Christian-Muslim conflicts. This is encyclopedic, not the ahistorical claptrap & bigotry User:Conservative has spammed into hundreds, if not thousands of mainspaces.
Ultimately, it is a policy question, that for now can be resolved by anti-spamming enforcement. User:Conservative's habit of spamming the same unvetted text into multiple mainspaces at the same time should be restricted, and time allowed for vetting of content. RobSRecovering Republican 18:44, December 28, 2025 (EST)

I never said Slobodan Milošević was an "atheist", etc. etc. Conservative (talk) 19:25, December 28, 2025 (EST)

Atheism_and_Mass_Murder#Yugoslavia, 24 July 2017 and more. See: Vox Day declares Nazism “semiotically useful,” specifies which kind of Jew is ok to him. 21 September, 2016. Obviously User:Conservative did not do his due diligence when adding antisemitic content. Nor when he posted the liberal claptrap above claiming he was "acting in good faith" while making the veiled reference to his critics as a "bad faith" actors.
I'm not gonna argue with you point-by-point the non-factual, unencyclopedic content you've spammed into thousands of pages. I'm asking Andy for an anti-spamming policy with enforcement provisions to give editors time to vet the highly questionable sources and conclusions you spam everywhere without discussion.
We actually have such a policy. There is no enforcement. User:Conservative violates it with impunity. RobSRecovering Republican 19:57, December 28, 2025 (EST)
Question: Were you being "non-Christian" when you became obsessed with "citation purity" and tried to disassociate yourself from Vox Day and hide his name? RobSRecovering Republican 18:06, December 28, 2025 (EST)
User:Conservative tarred the converted Christian Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia, as an atheist and proponent of bestiality into at least 342 mainspace articles. [16][17][18] No one cleaned it up when I called attention to it more than a year ago.
His spamming of blatantly false and malicious information needs to be checked and vetted by other editors first before he spams it into dozens and hundreds of mainspaces. RobSRecovering Republican 16:57, January 5, 2026 (EST)

Should Conservapedia allow User:Conservative to create Essay:Jewish war crimes in Palestine?

[19]

Or should Conservapedia have written, enforceable community standards? RobSRecovering Republican 07:28, December 18, 2025 (EST)

This is what is called "censorship".

Note: The point was made four days before the Oct 7 attacks.

Conservapedia's trolling problem

User:Conservative said,

  • "On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support. Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [20]
Update: John Thune’s Senate has delayed weaponization prosecutors in John Brennan probe for two months. Former U.S. Attorney, Independent Counsel Joe diGenova was dispatched to Florida to play a key role in weaponization probe. By John Solomon and Jerry Dunleavy. Just the News. Published: April 17, 2026 10:55pm. Updated: April 18, 2026 8:47am. [21]
"a Republican administration is being kept from seeing evidence from a Congress in its own party’s control that referred Brennan in the first place for prosecution on allegations he misled lawmakers."

User:Conservative disrupted more than a dozen years of research and killed off thousands of followers and Conservapedia readers with his narcissistic trolling. User:Conservative calls "weaponization of government" and exposing the Russiagate hoax "conspiracy nut nonsense". RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:51, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

Attack on Conservative Treehouse

User:Conservative also wrote:

  • "The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)" [22]

Update: Miami Prosecutor Moved from Brennan Conspiracy Investigation. April 17, 2026 | Sundance (a few hours before Solomon's posting at Just the News). [23]

John Solomon, Jerry Dunleavy (of the Washington Examiner), Joe diGenova and his wife Victoria Toensing (of Uranium One fame), Sundance, Sidney Powell (who defended Gen. Michael Flynn) and Sara Carter are active participants in the "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" who exposed the Russiagate scandal. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't.

Update: Joe diGenova placed in charge of the massive federal grand jury investigation into all of the crimes committed against President Trump, from Russiagate, his sham impeachments, the rigged 2020 election and the illegal criminal charges and lawfare attacks waged against President Trump. [24]

Statement by Sundance in relation to recent indictment of James Comey:

The 11th Circuit Court of Appeals agreed with the government position that any documents defined as “classified” by the executive branch (then Biden) that claimed, “national security,” should not be disclosed to the defendant, Donald Trump. The court of appeals essentially determined that all definitions by the executive branch, are not questionable by the judicial branch.

This precedent now applies to James Comey’s memos. If the DOJ/FBI/IC define the Comey memos as classified documents because they specifically pertain to private discussions with President Donald Trump about ongoing security matters and Russia, then the Comey memos are legally classified information – regardless of what James Comey says about them.

The DOJ can prosecute James Comey for leaking classified documents by using the same legal approach the DOJ used against Donald Trump. Classified documents are whatever the federal government says they are.

When I reminded the DC people about this specific precedent, you could have heard a pin drop.

Source: The Conservative Treehouse: Report: Another DOJ Investigative Case Against James Comey Happening in Virgina – That’s Three States Now, and This One Has Big Irony, April 30, 2026, Sundance.

Sundance is an "insider".

User:Conservative knows nothing about the issues he has spammed, trolled, and disrupted with negative SEO. He needs to be publicly disciplined for the harm he has done to Conservapedia, its users and editors. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 22:55, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

Simplicius

User:Conservative wrote:

  • [The Conservative Treehouse] is not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support). Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)
Because of Simplicius fair criticism of Trump, MAGA cultist User:Conservative convinced Andy to "yank off of main page right". After destroying Conservapedia's reader base with his advocacy of Biden/Clinton foreign policy, MAGA cultist User:Conservative is hell bent on dragging down the Republican party, the conservative movement, and what remains of the original MAGA movement with his 37%.

The Big Question

How long will Mr. Andy Schlafly continue to allow himself to be led down the nihilistic path User:Conservative has led him which has destroyed collaboration and Conservapedia's user & reader base? RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 19:03, April 18, 2026 (EDT)

It should be obvious to Andy Schlafly by now that User:Conservative has followed through with his threat to target articles created by User:RobSmith posted from MPR with negative SEO, as he promised. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:36, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

Future traffic to RobSmith's articles once things go into effect to a large degree, please see: Traffic to RobSmith's articles.

Traffic to wiki as a whole: Conservapedia is often down now too due to DDOS attacks. "358% surge in global DDoS volume in 2025... By 2029 onward, declines moderate to 20-25% annually as the site becomes a low-traffic niche relic, with DDoS contributing to minimal recovery potential. Total traffic could fall below 10,000 monthly by 2036, akin to archived wikis under sustained disruption. These projections assume no major mitigations like improved cybersecurity, which could slight::Expect the traffic to go lower. I know the various web marketing technical indicators indicating that a website is on a declining trajectory and Conservapedia has them. Of course, if I convinced Andy to make some SEO changes and other changes like I did in the past, things would look much better. But I am no longer interested in doing this - despite the fact that my SEO recommendations would increase Conservapedia's SEO traffic by 20,000 to 30,000 visits a month and that is a conservative estimate.  ::Abandon all hope! The SEO who helped a website in 2024 that now has 1,000,000 visits per month has spoken! Conservative (talk) 22:43, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

RobSmith, the web pages that rank for similar terms to your Conservapedia articles with grow in relative strength while yours will grow weaker.

You shouldn't have gone out of your way to try to annoy a SEO. Big mistake.

If you still have any high hopes for your articles getting a lot of web traffic, I would stop having those high hopes.
User:Conservative: Your Satanic symbols of death are convincing.

“ As he thinketh in his heart, so is he. ”

—Proverbs 23:7

 ::RobSmith quote: "You are and I'll put it in the Acknowledgements. If everything goes right, hopefully it'll stand next to the Dialogues of Plato, Socratic method, and Machiavelli Discourses in classrooms someday. nobs 00:20, 29 January 2017 (UTC)"  ::If you still have hopes of being as well-known as Plato, Socrates and Machavelli, I would give up those high hopes.  ::The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)

The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.
ly soften the curve."
The web pages that compete SEO-wise with your articles with your articles will generally become stronger relative to your articles. Your choice. Now live with it. Conservative (talk) 23:01, September 22, 2025 (EDT)



The Google rankings of RobSmith Conservapedia articles are going down.

And wait until Russia has problems funding its war in Ukraine which seems a fairly likely event due to Russia's current economic problems. The traffic to RobSmith's Russia/Ukraine articles will go further down.

Andy,

What more evidence of malicious intent do you need? Everyone sees this, and this is why the editor recruitment drive fails. No one wants to be caught up in User:Conservative's games. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 23:58, April 30, 2026 (EDT)

The inconsistent logic of a cult believer

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I voted for Donald Trump, despite his various faults, because he would be a better US president than Kamala Harris. I also did it with the knowledge that the USA has a system of checks and balances. I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism that you have shown towards Vladimir Putin. Russia has begun to show its dissatisfaction with Putin and his foolish war. You have not done the same. Conservative (talk) 09:46, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
I have never descended into the pathetic and wretched fan boyism towards Vladimir Putin. The impatience with Putin is over his moderation. You are misreading (better yet, being fed bad information on) the situation. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 09:59, May 13, 2026 (EDT)
Prof. John Mearsheimer, whom User:Conservative repeatedly cites as an authority, had this to say today in discussion with Lt. Col. Daniel Davis about Western war propaganda: [25]
Prof. Mearsheimer Well, there's hardly ever any facts that back up these claims. Uh, these are just assertions. And as we know, there's a propaganda war that takes place in addition to the actual war on the battlefield. And what people like General Hodges want to do is they want to buck up the Ukrainians. They want to tell them that they can win. And furthermore, they want the West, both the United States and the Europeans, to continue supporting Ukraine. And the way you do that is you say Ukraine is prevailing on the battlefield. It is basically turn the tide and the Russians are in deep trouble. Uh they're running out of manpower. They're suffering enormous casualties. Uh and the war is Ukraine's for the winning. That's that's the basic story that's told, ad nauseum in the West and that story has been an ongoing story for years. I mean, what General Hodges is now saying is a story we could have heard a year ago, two years ago, three years ago. The West constantly tells that story. I follow the war reasonably closely and I don't believe it. I think there's no question that the Russians took a pause. And I think there's no question that the Ukrainians recaptured a tiny bit of territory. But it's meaningless in the overall scheme of things. And the Russians are now back on the march. It's quite clear. And, although they're not gobbling up territory the way I think you and I thought they would, two or three years ago, in large part because of the presence of massive numbers of drones, there's no question that they're moving forward. And I believe they will end up conquering the Donbass in the near future. I believe they're not that far away from it....
It's amazing, for the editor who contributed much to the Psyop & Propaganda articles, that he is incapable of identifying it when it's before his face.
Furthermore, Vladimir Putin has been criticized for his go-slow approach, and now according to Sergey Karaganov, the hardline approach of "nuke 'em til they glow" is becoming mainstream. Sergey Karaganov: How Russia Will Win the New World War, Glenn Diesen.
Why Andy Schlafly allows psyops & propaganda to be tolerated as malicious personal attacks is the only question I have. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 21:23, May 13, 2026 (EDT)

You decide

User:Conservative wrote:

The Conservative Treehouse website, which you cited above and often use on main page right, calls itself a "rag tag bunch of conservative misfits" and its primarily run by an anonymous guy called "Sundance". And its filled with conspiracy nut nonsense. In short, it's not much better than "Simplicius the Thinker" who Andy yanked off of main page right (Anyone who calls himself a "thinker" probably isn't! His drones over Europe are false flags speculation had zero evidential support).

On main page right, why don't we have more Justthenews.com which is run by John Solomon, an award-winning investigative journalist. Mr. Solomon is right-wing without the conspiracy nut flakiness. He's a real solid guy with great reporter skills. Conspiracies happen, but let's have empirical support for them rather than lunatic rantings lacking evidential support.

Sadly, main page right has turned into a trainwreck. Conservative (talk) 22:21, November 7, 2025 (EST)

Ok, Mr. Expert. We need your input:

“ In a twisted Machiavellian way, perhaps the entire reason for John Solomon to write about it is to destroy the value in the cause for justice. I don’t know; you decide. ”

—Sundance

User:Conservative frequently uses the term "Machiavellian" to attack his "enemies" (he injected the term 43 times in one discussion thread in Andy talk to attack User:RobSmith). When exhaustively questioned, User:Conservative states he has no understanding what the term means.

Who's right and who's wrong, or who is telling the truth, conspiracy nutcase Sundance or the "Machiavellian" John Solomon?

User:Conservative created this issue. Now man up. [26] RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 17:28, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

C'mon, Mr. MAGA, man up. You should be able to defend your slanders against your "enemies".

“ SUMMARY: To be clear, I am saying John Solomon’s reporting process is dangerous, specifically dangerous. Dangerous to MAGA, and perhaps more consequentially, dangerous to President Trump and/or any righteous movement toward justice.

Because, yet again, in this instance, if he is not lying (a significant assumption at this moment in history) then -once again- he is alluding to having FBI/DOJ emails that are being used in South FL USAO investigations, likely provided by Kash Patel or others, that would be grand jury material – if the GJ stories of an investigation into a ‘conspiracy against rights’ are to be believed.

If that is accurate origination and that explains why he refused to provide the citation, the release of GJ material to Solomon is exceptionally damaging to any case(s) that might use it. Steve Bannon and Sean Hannity will promote John Solomon, while James Comey, Mary McCord and Jack Smith laugh about it.

FUBAR.

There is a reason why Tulsi Gabbard’s approach was effective, and the deep state feared her. She silently reviewed, then spoke with receipts.

”

—Sundance

C'mon. Mr. Expert, support you slanders against me & Sundance with the truth, or just STFU about things you are incapable of understanding. RobSAbnormal is fine. Stupid isn't. 18:07, May 26, 2026 (EDT)

If this makes sense to anyone, please explain

User:Conservative/Mark Miller, 20 years after uploading an image of a gay bathhouse in violation of Conservapedia Commandments to keep it family friendly, claims Russia's reduction of gay bars is cause to continue Ukraine aid:

On Sun, Jun 14, 2026 at 11:23 AM Mark Miller <redacted> wrote:

I did some additional research on how many gay bars/clubs exist in Moscow, Russia:

How many gay bars/clubs does Moscow have presently? There have been some fairly recent laws related to homosexuality plus there may have been drug raids on bars in Moscow to discourage gay bars/clubs. In addition, I heard that some places might be a restaurant by day and a gay bar/club at night.

1:18 PM

Searched the web Searched the web No precise official count exists, but a rough picture as of 2026:

A formerly thriving scene (Central Station, Propaganda, BoyZ Club, etc.) has largely collapsed since the 2023 Russian Supreme Court ruling designating the "international LGBT movement" as "extremist," which gave authorities legal cover for raids and closures. Central Station, the most iconic club, was forced to close in March 2024, and Propaganda and BoyZ Club were also hit and shut down.

Nomadic Boys

What's believed to still be operating, per gay travel guides: MONO, Three Monkeys, and the Hunters Party cruising club are reported as still going strong, while Nashe Cafe and NICE are likely still running in a subtle way as mixed establishments rather than openly gay venues.

Nomadic Boys

This confirms your "restaurant by day, gay bar by night" suspicion — one venue is described as a day-time dining venue that turns into an intimate gay bar in the evening and a dance club with drag shows on weekends.

Travel Gay

Bottom line: there's no reliable current "number" — maybe a handful (roughly 3-5) of openly or semi-openly operating venues, down sharply from the dozen-plus that existed pre-2023, with most surviving spots deliberately keeping a low profile or dual-purpose cover to avoid drawing police attention.

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