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James Norman Mattis a Bulldog for CCP Business Karweil Friday, 12:45, 27 November 2020

Coulter alert

"NO! NO! NO! Barrett says she'll recuse herself in any case where the Pope has a specific view, like the death penalty. No."

I am reluctant to approve of Coulter's objections. Ruth Bader Ginsberg has a female identity and by every right should be replaced by someone sharing that female identity. Some liberal women are so superior through their enlightened emotional, intellectual and ethical—nay, if they don't transcend ethics altogether, progress to the rest of the American public, it would be laughable to think they could be fairly represented by a mere man:

Men, now would be a good time to not minimize the sadness of the women in your lives and just know that she meant more to them than you could possibly understand.—Erin GrudgePAC Ryan

But I know how enraged RobS would be if I supported a liberal-pope-approval-seeking judicial candidate. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:05, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

See this exposes the fault of Roman church teaching and law; the Pope, who speaks for God (irregardless if he's an avowed Holy Spirit blasphemer and Satanist which God himself is powerless to revoke the auhority he handed to Peter, per Dataclarifier), represents a political institution (despite the fact Jesus said my kingom is not of this world) and creates a conflict of interest for a Roman Catholic judge. It would simply be easier to recognize the authority of the Bible, which creates deniability for political interests, and toss out this pretensious "Vicar of Christ" stuff. RobSFree Kyle! 13:06, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I have to admit I envy the rhetorical momentum you generate when you portray the dynamics of the unlimited powers of the papal office. But if you reformulated those abilities in a way that were more precise to reality, I think your descriptions could actually have an even greater impact.
What is anathema, "a formal curse by a pope or a council of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine" and does it apply to the Pope? The Athenians called the founder of a great many of their founding customs "Theseus". That alone should tell us, together with "ana-" meaning "not", that "anathema" means something like "unconstitutional".
At the first council of Ephesus it was decreed:
It was unlawful to utter, write or draw up any other creed, than that which was defined by the Fathers assembled at Nicaea together with the Holy Ghost.
—under pain of anathema. This was repeated in the acts of the council of Chalcedon.
"Read my new articles of faith."
A second consideration. Alexander Hamilton:
In disquisitions of every kind, there are certain primary truths, or first principles, upon which all subsequent reasonings must depend. These contain an internal evidence which, antecedent to all reflection or combination, commands the assent of the mind... Of this nature are the maxims in geometry, that "the whole is greater than its part; things equal to the same are equal to one another; two straight lines cannot enclose a space; and all right angles are equal to each other." Of the same nature are these other maxims in ethics and politics, that there cannot be an effect without a cause; that the means ought to be proportioned to the end; that every power ought to be commensurate with its object; that there ought to be no limitation of a power destined to effect a purpose which is itself incapable of limitation.—Federalist, no. 31, January 1, 1788.
VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 14:57, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

Why did FOX censor Gingrich?

Simple. Because Melissa Francis hates DeBlasio and Cuomo so much, holding them responsible for killing the elderly through their Wuhan virus policies in New York, she renounced conservatism altogether, having been wavering before, and dismissed the suggestion of prosecutorial misconduct by means of intruding political agents so nothing would stand between her and bringing the two to justice. She has often asked them to resign on her popular Twitter page. It was a knee-jerk reaction, and Harris Faulker simply didn't know what to say to that.

That's why she is no longer among the Top conservatives on Twitter. She renounced being a conservative on her Twitter page.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:19, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Geez I figured Soros had ongoing defamation lawsuits against Fox and Fox was just scared of adding further fuel to ongoing litigation. RobSFree Kyle! 13:38, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

"President Trump's nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate"

Read the dogwhistle in McConnell's language. A SCOTUS pick is not even an election year issue. "Trump's pick" will get a vote before January 20, 2021. Lindsey needs to get the hearings cranked up before RBG corpse gets cold. Another Kavanaugh smear-type riot will save the Trump campaign's advertising budget millions. RobSFree Kyle! 16:05, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

The new Congress is sworn in on January 3. I assume a vote will be held before then. Susan Collins says that the vote has to be after the election.[2] Collins wanted a vote on Garland in 2016. So how a can she oppose a vote this time around? It's all about maintaining her position in the middle of the Senate political spectrum. PeterKa (talk) 08:14, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
January is tentative; by Nov. 4 we should have some idea if the final deadline in Jan. 3 or Jan. 20. Democrats will try every delay, holding "extended hearings" with bogus charges, asking for a week long FBI investigation, etc etc. We've seen it all before now at least twice. RobSFree Kyle! 14:58, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Let the rape accusations begin!

This prophetic article was written a year ago, and I still haven't stopped laughing: "OPED: I was raped by whoever Trump picks to replace Ginsburg on the Supreme Court." Don't say she is lying until you have looked into those doe eyes of hers. PeterKa (talk) 04:14, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Dems talk gangster: "everything is on table"

The Democrats thought a Senate confirmation vote was vital during 2016 campaign. But to do one now would be such a norm-busting event that the logical recourse would be to increase the number of justices and pack the courts whenever the Dems finally get back into power. See "'Nothing is off the table': Supreme Court fight could reshape the Senate" This is so hypocritical in so many ways. There are certainly arguments for enlarging the court. But to do it this way would make it a partisan tool, an American politburo. No one who actually believed in constitutionalism would threaten to override the constitution in this way. To bow to this kind of threat would ensure that the Dems will make it again and again. Besides, a conservative court would mostly be about returning control of abortion, guns, marriage, voting rights, and other matters to the various states. All of this is supported by public opinion. The Dem's antics over Kavanaugh cost them the Senate in 2018. I suspect that doubling down on this approach won't work.

Chief Justice Roberts likes to vote with the majority because he gets to write the opinion whenever he does. So another conservative on the court could flip a whole category of decisions from 5-4 liberal to 6-3 conservative. PeterKa (talk) 08:59, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Back in 2016 Conservapdia among many others urged and supported the delay for filling the vacancy. 4 years on the same people are saying that it would a travesty if the nomination is delayed. This represents a double standard. As double standards are firmly in the the realm of liberalism is makes be question whether Conserapedia and Mr Schlafly are in fact liberal. It is also hypocritical to say the least, see my point above about double standards.--Rennais (talk) 12:56, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
To address your point, unlike with 2016, Trump is literally running for reelection (Obama was a Lame Duck president at the time). Your point would have been more sound if this were the 2024 elections. Pokeria1 (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
In 2010 the American people gave the Republican party authority to confirm presidential appointments, irrespective of party. They've held that authority continuously for a decade through 5 election cycles. There is no double standard here. RobSFree Kyle! 14:54, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
The GOP Senate's biggest failure was confirming James Comey; so there is plenty of probable cause to suspect anything coming from Democrats as partisan and lawless. RobSFree Kyle! 15:05, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
In fact I would venture to say, GOP members of the Senate knew of directly (McCain) or suspected (Grassley, Burr, McConnell, Graham) Obama's FISA abuse and Obama's misuse of the FBI & CIA (an impeachable offense, per the Nixon precedent) to meddle in the 2016 election. Given Obama's lawless agenda, GOP Senators did the right thing. Obama and the Democrats destroyed any notion of good faith, which was readily apparent by the Summer of 2016. The Democrats collusion with lawless elements to disrupt the orderly process of democracy and Congressional hearings in the Kavanaugh smear, the continuing War on Cops, and Democrat donor-sponsored lawlessness and riots only confirm these suspicions. RobSFree Kyle! 15:59, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

The Senate majority can hold a vote on confirmation or not as it sees fit. Neither approach is logically a reason to pack the court for the purpose of overturning constitutional government. A Senate vote would not have changed the outcome for Garland. Garland wasn't confirmed because he did not have the support of the majority of the Senate. There is a long list of other Supreme Court nominees who were rejected for the same reason. Here is a published article that makes the same points: "There Is No Reason Why Republicans Shouldn’t Fill the SCOTUS Vacancy."

Is concern about covid a form of xenophobia? Do we need police? Are anti-police rioters heroes? The Democratic position on each of these issues has been a roller coaster ride in just the last couple of months. But the liberal idea of a great scandal is that McConnell said something different four years ago than what he has said recently. PeterKa (talk) 15:17, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Garland recently voted to continue the unjust persecution of Gen. Flynn. It was the right move to keep that partisan criminal piece of garbage off the high court. RobSFree Kyle! 16:19, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
Now, one can argue the GOP should have gone forward with Garland hearings and forced Senators to go on record voting down an Obama appointee - but that misses the point entirely that McConnell and Judiciary Chairman Grassley made at the time - that Obama's lawless agenda by appointing criminal thugs (witness Comey's hijacking the DOJ to clear Clinton) needed to stop. Obama destroyed any notion of good faith in the Democrat's constant overreaching lust for more power. RobSFree Kyle! 16:30, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
Here is a video of Biden annunciating the Biden "rule" in 1992. McConnell cited this rule as a justification for not holding a vote on Garland. After watching the video, I would say that the Biden rule was created for another era, a time when the Senate was full of comity that occasionally broke down during the heat of a presidential campaign. Biden denies that he is waiting for the inauguration of a Democratic president. The logical conclusion is that the transition is the right time for a confirmation vote. The idea that partisonship will decline during the transition strikes me as quite dated at this point.
"The president is elected for four years, not three years. So the powers that he has in year three continues into year four. Maybe some members of the Senate will wake up and appreciate that that's how it should be." -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 2016. [3]
PeterKa (talk) 01:53, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
Instant Karma. RobSFree Kyle! 15:08, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
"Instant Karma", from January 1970, was John Lennon's idea to write a song in the morning, produce and record it in the afternoon and promote it and release it that evening.
The phrase "We all shine on", starting the chorus, inspired the name and subject of Stephen King's horror novel, The Shining, later made into a movie (1980) by Stanley Kubrick. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 15:19, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

An interesting poll...

According to this article by The Hill, the headline says that "Biden leads Trump by 12 points among Catholic voters: poll". However, the first sentence says that "Joe Biden holds a 12-point lead over President Trump among likely voters who identify as Catholic." Here's the really interesting (though unsurprising) part: 58% of those who attend Mass daily support Trump, along with 61% who attend more than once a week; just under 70% of those who rarely attend Mass support Biden. In addition, Trump seems to be improving among Hispanic Catholics compared to in 2016. —LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 20:25, 21 September 2020 (EDT)

And Trump's support among Catholics will improve significantly as Dems attack his upcoming nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court for being Catholic.

.8 billion

It looks like it is 8 billion.. if that's the point, that is kind of misleading. Just saying, as a conservative and all, I just want it to be true, so I think something like 0.8 billion or 800 million would be better. Presidentofyes12 (talk) 13:56, 23 September 2020 (EDT)

I dunno; when we see the official retraction from the Biden campaign of 200,000,000 million covid deaths, WaPo giving Biden 4 Pinocchios, and Snopes labeling Biden's claim as false, it may be something to consider. RobSFree Kyle! 14:59, 23 September 2020 (EDT)
Pretty late reply, but im fine with this answer! Presidentofyes12 (talk) 14:45, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Crenshaw ad

Behind U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw's eyepatch is a Terminator 2-style scanner. He travels Texas to recruit a team of Republican congressional candidates, at least if we take this campaign ad at face value. PeterKa (talk) 11:24, 25 September 2020 (EDT)

Live debate updates

  • Biden slightly fumbles, saying "uh" frequently
  • Biden: "I am the Democratic Party"
  • Trump goes off on Biden over the coronavirus pandemic
  • Biden appears sleepy compared to Trump
  • Trump goes off on Wallace
  • Biden fumbles between Medicare and Medicaid
  • Trump roasts Biden for finishing last in class
  • Biden ironically claims that Trump "doesn't know what he's talking about"
  • Biden claims that Trump "shut down" the economy when Democrat governors did such
  • Biden repeats the "inject bleach" hoax
  • Trump says that no one shows up to Biden "rallies"
  • Biden slightly fumbles
  • Biden lies, ridiculously claiming that Trump has done "nothing" to help small businesses
  • Wallace brings up Trump's tax payments
  • Biden says Trump is America's "worst" president "ever"
  • Biden says he'll raise taxes
  • Biden makes false attacks against Trump over the economy before the CCP pandemic
  • Trump brings up Hunter Biden
  • Wallace: "It's an open discussion"; Trump: "It's a FACT"
  • Trump argues with Wallace
  • Biden repeats the "very fine people" hoax
  • Trump brings up the Biden Crime Bill
  • Biden fumbles
  • Biden says that Trump "looks down" on "Irish Catholics" while Democrats currently smear Amy Coney Barrett for being Catholic
  • Biden appears increasingly sleepy
  • Biden relies on "experts", while Trump relies on facts
  • Biden fumbles on saying "booming", lies about Trump's toughness on Russia, repeats the "losers and suckers" hit piece claim, cites Mitt Romney to attempt rebuking Trump
  • Biden favors globalism
  • Biden makes a highly misleading comment about mail-in voting; Trump clarifies the importance of solicited ballots
  • Biden said that the military "votes by ballots"; did he mean "vote by mail"?

LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 21:12, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

CNN's headline is "An absolutely awful debate: Trump derails the night with insults and interruptions." Meanwhile, the Washington Post is bemoaning Chris Wallace's failure to "control Trump." So I take that Trump won. Before the debate, Wallace said he wanted to slip into the background and let Trump and Biden go at it. That didn't happen. In fact, it was more like a Trump-Wallace debate. Why can't Trump ask Biden how his family got so wealthy? If there was any answer that did not involve corruption and trading on political connections, we would have heard it.

Next time, Trump has to call Biden on the claim that Trump's assertion that there were "fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville Confederate statue debate was somehow a reference to white supremacists. There seems be a consensus that Trump was too belligerent and interrupted too much. This strategy worked with Hillary in 2016. But if Trump had allowed Biden to finish his thoughts, the audience would have had better sense of how serious his mental decline is. PeterKa (talk) 11:13, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

While the media will paint Trump as some kind of a bully, they can't get around the fact that Chuck- er, Chris Wallace was completely inept in attempting to "control" the president from going after Biden. Also, about Biden's mental decline, it seemed to me that he started out mediocre in terms of energy and got somewhat sleepier as the debate dragged on. —LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 12:29, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
I saw this witty comment: "Biden did a terrible job of moderating the Trump-Wallace debate." I hope they get a real moderator next time, not someone who sees his job as protecting Joe Biden from Trump's questions. Why did the wife of the mayor of Moscow pay Hunter $3.5 million? Joe has no obligation to tell us, but surely Trump should be allowed to ask. The Mueller investigation was triggered over less.
The liberal media has pronounced this the "worst debate ever" and has called for the cancellation of scheduled Trump-Biden debates. So we must ask, how do liberals think a presidential debate should be conducted? They are citing the 2012 Obama-Romney debate after which the media spent a week bashing Romney for boasting that he had "binders full of women." In those days, all the Dems had to do to win a debate was to coordinate a little faux outrage. So of course they have fond memories of how easy and fun it was to destroy Romney. See "Liberals Nostalgic for ‘Simpler Time’ When They Could Freak Out About a Nice Mormon Who Hired Women." PeterKa (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

White supremacy at the debate

Here are the relevant lines from the debate transcript:

[CHRIS] WALLACE: Are you willing tonight to condemn white supremacists and militia groups…
WALLACE: And to say that they need to stand down and not add to the violence in a number of these cities as we saw in Kenosha, and as we’ve seen in Portland
TRUMP: Sure, I’m prepared to do it, but I would say almost everything I see is from the left-wing not from the right-wing. I’m willing to do anything, I want to see peace…

This is hardly the first time Trump has condemned white supremacy either. Who was a white supremacist in Kenosha or Portland, Wallace? Perhaps Wallace is insinuating that Kyle Rittenhouse and Patriot Prayer are white supremacists. If so, that's a lot of smears to pack into one question. For the media, the takeaway was that Trump "refused" to condemn white supremacy. Huh? Why should he have do it more than once? On the other hand, there is no downside to condemning white supramacists as many times as it takes. Wallace also claims that the Proud Boys, who protect Ann Coulter, are white supremacists. The guy is a runaway smear machine. PeterKa (talk) 11:04, 1 October 2020 (EDT)

  • In a recent press conference, journalists repeatedly brought up the issue "to put it to rest" and "to clear it up". [4] And they complain about being called fake news!
    Here's a compilation of video quotes in which Trump condemns racism and bigotry and white supremacy: [5] --Ed Poor Talk 08:56, 2 October 2020 (EDT)
Did Biden ever call is Strom Thurmond or James Eastland clowns and tell them to shut up? No. He had nothing but loving words for them at their retirement and funerals. RobSFree Kyle! 14:11, 2 October 2020 (EDT)


The New Yorker:

John McCain's Funeral Was The Biggest Resistance Meeting Yet

Two ex-Presidents and one eloquent daughter teamed up to rebuke the pointedly uninvited Donald Trump.

by Susan B. Glasser 5:47 P.M.

It's remarkable how bad they are at pretending these McCain memorials are an authentic outpouring of bipartisan sorrow from DC rather than just the millionth astroturfed anti-Trump media circus this year.—J. Burton, September 1, 2018.

As is usual in the world of "progressive" politics, what they think and say is not what actually happens in real life. President Trump this year tweeted to note that it had been up to him whether McCain had a state funeral. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 17:45, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

China rewrites the Bible

Jesus killed the woman caught in adultery in John 7:53-8:11. You don't remember that part? It's in the new, improved "Chairman Xi Version” of the Bible. See National Review's "China’s Communist Christ." Chinese have told me that The Scarlet Letter has been transformed into an uncompromising condemnation of adultery. Perhaps the idea of rewriting the classics this way started with some party boss who really hated being cuckolded. The CCP spins Chaucer's "Wife of Bath" as a feminist tale. I should have asked how that one deals with adultery. PeterKa (talk) 16:14, 1 October 2020 (EDT)

I saw that. This is a huge issue, Marxist brainwashing of the children of 1/4 of the Earth's population to say Jesus was a murderer. If people do not react quickly, this has huge longterm consequences. RobSFree Kyle! 14:06, 2 October 2020 (EDT)
And really, it's a very sexist attack on women intended to reduce them to servitude toward men (as Islam does) and turn girls, when they are older, against the gospel of Christ and salvation. RobSFree Kyle! 14:09, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

Trump tests positive for coronavirus

President Trump and First Lady Melania Trump have tested positive for the CCP virus. Let's pray for their recovery! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:56, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

  • I put a news capsule on the Main Page, just so that foreign enemies know there is no disruption of the Commander-in-chief's presidency. --Ed Poor Talk 08:47, 2 October 2020 (EDT)
Okay, thanks Ed Poor! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 08:54, 2 October 2020 (EDT)

And the media just doesn't stop teasing and bullying him! - User:Punish China

Urgent News - User:Punish China

So if the superspreader event was in the Rose Garden at Amy Barrett announcement, and now that Hope Hicks, Trump, Flotus, and Kellyanne Conway have all tested positive, is it time to invoke the Insurrection Act? RobSFree Kyle! 02:39, 3 October 2020 (EDT)
Hopey left the White House in early 2018 after the uproar over her then boyfriend Rob Porter, a favorite of White House Chief of Staff John Kelly. She returned to the White House in March 2020. Her current boyfriend is Jim Donovan, head of Goldman Sachs.[6] Like Jacqueline Onassis, she has found a man rich enough to protect her from the media. A secondary figure in the Trump White House gets the sort of problems and opportunities that only JFK's widow had to deal with in the 1960s. PeterKa (talk) 07:57, 5 October 2020 (EDT)

Nunes just made the connection between $3.5 million Hunter Biden received from Moscow, the Steele dossier, and Trump-Russia

[7] RobSFree Kyle! 14:51, 4 October 2020 (EDT)

Watch the stars on the flag on the left over Trump's shoulder; the heaving suggests he's onboard a ship. RobSFree Kyle! 15:10, 4 October 2020 (EDT)

Live updates for the debate for the Senate special election in Arizona

  • McSally attacks Kelly over China, etc.
  • Kelly claims "the [Trump] administration didn't come up with a plan" and "did not do a great job"
  • Kelly claims "we need independent leadership"
  • McSally blames COVID-19 on China, Kelly blames it on the Trump Administration and McSally
  • McSally attacks "Counterfeit Kelly" over PPP hypocrisy
  • Kelly talks about "leadership"
  • Kelly mentions his promise not to take corporate PACs, which he broke
  • Kelly says that the vote on Amy Coney Barrett should wait until there's a "new president and new Senate"
  • Kelly, backed by the Democrat establishment, talks about "how broken Washington is"
  • Kelly ignores the AHCA's protections for pre-existing conditions
  • Kelly dodges on eliminating the Senate filibuster
  • McSally notes that Kelly is hand-picked by Schumer
  • McSally notes the CCP trips attended by Kelly, which he ignores/dodges (twice)
  • Kelly supports a socialist "public option" over private healthcare options
  • Kelly says that the Republican tax bill was a "giveaway" as if individual profit belongs to the government
  • McSally denounces the socialist "public option"
  • Kelly claims that McSally works for the corporations; McSally notes his hypocrisy in addition to taking over one million in speaking fees
  • Kelly claims that McSally voted against protections for pre-existing conditions; the AHCA did provide some protections
  • Kelly talks about "Arizona First", which may be taken from Trump's "America First" slogan
  • Kelly praises RINO John McCain, and claims that McSally spent "years" trying to undermine protections for pre-existing conditions
  • McSally notes her record of bipartisanship on certain issues
  • Kelly admits that he's anti-Trump, yet tries to pass himself off as being "independent"
  • Kelly claims that McSally didn't stand up to her party when she recently voted for a Democrat bill
  • Kelly admits he would have voted to remove Trump from office
  • Kelly vaguely blames "failure of leadership", then specifies that it's the supposed fault of the Trump Administration and McSally
  • Kelly says "we need strong border security" yet doesn't appear to support the border wall
  • McSally notes that Kelly has pushed for far-leftists like Ilhan Omar [8] [9]
  • Kelly, a globalist, announces that he is in favor of visas
  • McSally ties Kelly to far-leftists Rashida Tlaib and Ilhan Omar
  • Kelly dodges on McSally's point falsely claims that he's "a supporter of the Second Amendment"
  • biased anti-Trump moderators?
  • Kelly focuses on McCain and falsely claims that McSally supposedly did not stand up for McCain when she did
  • McSally focuses on bringing jobs back from China
  • Kelly hypocritically claims that McSally "follows the money"
  • Kelly again talks about the need for "independent leadership"
  • Kelly admits that the violent riots "must end" yet only refers to them as "protests"
  • Kelly claims that the Republican-led police reform bill was "inadequate"
  • Kelly again falsely claims to support Second Amendment yet supports red flag laws and calls them common sense measures
  • Kelly, backed by the Democrat establishment and supporting left-wing policies, denounces "partisan politics"

LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 23:27, 6 October 2020 (EDT)

Whoops, Sen. Coons admits what other Democrats won't

Chris Coons gets it: ACB is qualified as a judge. He just doesn't like that Barrett's a conservative. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 12:08, 7 October 2020 (EDT)

Live updates for the vice presidential debate

  • Harris calls the Trump Administration a "failure", appears to blame them for small business closings, and claims that they "don't have a plan"
  • Pence notes that the importance of the China travel ban
  • Pence mentions Fauci's praise of Trump
  • Harris admits that her trust in a coronavirus vaccine is rooted in TDS
  • Pence goes out of his way to call Harris "unacceptable" over potential skepticism of a coronavirus vaccine
  • Harris claims to have been raised with good values and touts her record while mentioning her race
  • Harris claims that Biden is "transparent", "honest", etc.
  • Harris claims that Biden would repeal the 2017 Tax Cuts and Jobs Act over the deficit and "invest it into the American people"
  • Harris tries to impress young people by promising free college
  • Pence roasts Harris after she mentions the important of truth
  • Harris praises Obamacare that caused people to lose healthcare coverage and limited options
  • Pence praises the Great American Outdoors Act
  • the moderator points out that the Green New Deal is on the Biden/Harris website
  • Harris dodges on the Green New Deal and blames wildfires on "climate change"
  • Harris claims that Trump "lost the trade war" despite the fact that China saw their weakest GDP growth in early January 2020
  • Harris claims that Biden "saved" the auto industry
  • Pence points out Harris' vote against the USMCA
  • Harris uses the words of other countries' leaders to attack Trump - globalist?
  • Harris repeats the Russian collusion hoax narrative, citing the word of Christopher Wray; she also apparently believes that leaving the Iran nuclear deal "made us less safe".
  • Pence notes the foreign policy achievements of the Trump Administration
  • Harris gives a half-empty response over the murder of Kayla Mueller by terrorists
  • Harris responds to Trump's foreign policy achievements by repeating the "losers and suckers" hoax, etc.
  • the moderator almost lashes out on Pence
  • Pence praises Amy Coney Barrett
  • Harris dodges the Democrats' attacks on Barrett based on religious bigotry
  • Harris laments that repealing Obamacare means that people under the age of 26 can't stay on their parents' healthcare coverage
  • Harris plays the race card (unsurprisingly) by pointing out that Trump didn't nominate any black people to the Court of Appeals
  • Harris promises to decriminalize marijuana
  • Pence points out the violent riots that Democrats have refused to condemn
  • Harris falsely claims that Trump "refused to condemn white supremacists"
  • Harris repeats the "fine people" hoax (unsurprisingly)
  • Pence points out Harris' racist prosecuting record
  • the moderator appears to be slightly irritated after Pence points out her bias
  • Pence points out the Democrats' attempts to overturn the 2016 election over the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory
  • Harris says that Biden "has a history of lifting people up" - is she referring to the crime bill?

LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 22:38, 7 October 2020 (EDT)

unofficial speaking times -
Pence: 35:22
Harris: 38:48
Members of the Proud Boys were asked to rate the debate, and their views are expected to be available to the public shortly.
"small business closings": Kamala didn't happen to notice the focus of the BLM/Antifa riots are attacks on local autonomy.
"invest it in the American people": Kamala also doesn't seem to notice that whenever phrases like that get used, what actually happens is bureaucracies start to swell, more than anything.
Once again, global warming is presupposed as a fact. Pence just ignores the talking points and refers to the politically convenient gargantuan policy proposals that emanate from it.
That Kamala brags about how Cindy McCain and "seven members of George Bush's cabinet" endorsed Biden just shows how clueless she is about globalism. That includes "postmaster-general", though, doesn't it? When the chief government bureaucrat turns on the fiscally-conservative party—that's gotta hurt a little.
VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 01:47, 8 October 2020 (EDT)

Harris is a dangerous charlatan who worked her way to the top as an immigrant daughter of privilege who took advantage of affirmative action programs reserved for black American descendants of slaves before becoming the mistress of a top San Francisco politician who appointed her to a plum position at a government make-work job. Now, she is on the brink of taking her “ditzy floozy turned ruthless prosecutor” act to the highest office in the land, as the willing figurehead of a totalitarian power-grab by the anti-white, communist left.—Revolver News

Kamala’s life begins with what is, essentially, stolen valor against black Americans. Harris’s father was a Stanford economics professor from Jamaica. Her mother was a privileged Brahmin from India and a PhD-holding cancer researcher.—Revolver News

For 50 years, the Legal Education Opportunity Program has made law school accessible for disadvantaged students.
LEOP offers admission to approximately 50 high-achieving students each year—up to 20 percent of the class—who have experienced major life hurdles, such as educational disadvantage, economic hardship, or disability. The majority are students of color. Besides traditional admissions criteria, such as grades and LSAT scores, the program also considers students’ overall potential and the obstacles they’ve overcome.
LEOP went on to count many prominent alumni among its ranks, including U.S. Senator Kamala Harris ’89. [UC Hastings Law]

don't EVER let a brahmin-privileged turmeric monster lecture you about POC, colonialism, cultural appropriation, or representation. remind them that when lord indra arrived on the ganges in his chariot to slaughter 6 million dasyu aboriginals, the first word he said was 'namaste'—Hakan Rotmwrt

In other news

BLM/Antifa crowd arrive in Wauwatosa, Wisconsin, where a black police officer shot a black suspect. The former first lady noted storefront windows along Main Street were "mostly not smashed" where the groups are extending summer's cracker-barrel Kristallnacht festivities into fall! Thanks for coming out. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 02:29, 8 October 2020 (EDT)

Update: Some of the crowd broke windows in private homes along Elm Street, too, but others pulled them back, scolding "Too soon! Too soon!" VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 03:21, 8 October 2020 (EDT)

Hey-hey we're Antifa
We only put cop-supporters down...
But you'd better vote Democratic
Or we may be coming to your town...

I would suggest a re-phrase of the recent MPR item: I'm sure many-many atheists don't see their interests tied to a hegemony over a Christian country. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 02:55, 8 October 2020 (EDT)

Top Conservative on Twitter Dan Bongino has lymphoma and is seeking treatment options; I'm sure you join me in wishing him well. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 04:02, 8 October 2020 (EDT)

Now, when a business gains attention for reports of disagreeing with the politics of our most compulsive user base, Yelp will place a new Business Accused of Disagreeing Behavior Alert on their Yelp page to inform users, along with a link to an hysterical news article.—@2CB

Yelp has fully transitioned from consumer reviews to small business eradication—@galexybrane

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 05:53, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Oh! Look at the date! John Lennon would have been 80 today!

Apparently, all the news, funny and serious, is coming together to make a point, whether we want it to or not. Continuing:

Kill any remaining small business to increase elite market share—@torinmccabe

And slightly earlier,

The doctors said they've never seen a body kill the Coronavirus like my body. They tested my DNA, and it wasn't DNA, it was USA.—President Donald J. Trump

The above is the kind of "evidence" we can probably expect to see attempted to be slopped out in the inquiry mentioned in the new major section I added below this one.

The "link to a news article" about a given business' "racism" is the key to understanding why Yelp can happily do this without fear
How can they be sued for libel when they are simply deferring to the "facts" the media has already reported?—@17cS---eposter
(And with Twitter as a precedent...)
Part of the transition to making mass media the judge of ordinary language and life court, with 102 IQs like Ibram X Kendi constantly rewriting the laws to ensure judge is never wrong.—@2CB

Or the U.S. "Debate Commission", wouldn't you agree? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 06:39, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Pelosi, reportedly disappointed by Biden's debate performance, marshalling Democrats in open rebellion

Pelosi and Raskin to introduce a bill invoking 25th Amendment creating a commission to review President’s health and fitness for office. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 05:31, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

My goodness. To prepare for the worst to see you're not disoriented (politically), remember and consider the direction of the South's secession during the Civil War was really as a "pre-emptive counter-revolution". VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 06:52, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

The big question: Will Pelosi demand a drug test from President-elect Biden to facilitate Kamala being "installed"? RobSFree Kyle! 15:35, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

World Food Program awarded Nobel Peace Prize

Just announced. video of announcement. MPR? Encyclopedia article? FirstAmendment (talk) 05:57, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Cambridge Analytica, company used by Trump in 2016 election, has its 3-year-long investigation completed in U.K. with no findings of wrong-doing

Worked for Trump, company investigated further, no wrong-doing found, except perhaps against it by over-investigation. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 06:58, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Pulling out the crystal ball for November

The betting odds for a Biden victory surged from 55-45 on September 28 to 65-35 on October 10. But other election metrics haven't changed much. The battleground state matchups went from Biden +3.8 to Biden +4.5 while Trump's approval number went from -8.4 to -9.0. Perhaps a group of super-rich Biden supporters got together to manipulate the odds. It seems like an expensive hobby.

Washington State has an unusual non-partisan primary with a good track record of predicting the general election result. (California is the only other state with a non-partisan primary, but the California primary is held too early to be useful in making predictions about November.) The Dems did 0.3 percent better in this year's Washington State primary than they did in 2016. Trump's net approval climbed from -10 on August 4, the date of the primary, to -9 now.

FiveThirtyEight gives Biden an 85 percent chance of victory. They gave Hillary a 98 percent chance of victory in 2016, so I don't know how anybody takes this site seriously anymore. IBD/TIPP, the pollster with the best track record, gives Biden a national edge of 2.7 percentage points. Before doing this analysis, I had assumed that at least some Dems opposed the riots, which would give the edge to Trump. But that doesn't seem to be the case.

In short, things are looking a lot like they did in 2016 and the election is too close to call. PeterKa (talk) 14:42, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

I feel the same way. If Biden is doing so well, why are Biden and Harris campaigning in Nevada? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:28, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
According to IBD/TIPP, Trump is strongest on the Supreme Court (45%-40%) and the economy (47%-44%). Biden's strengths are covid (49%-40%) and race relations (49%-40%). So the riots are actually a point in Biden's favor. The economy is usually the most decisive issue. Who prefers an indefinate covid lockdown to a healthy economy? PeterKa (talk) 15:11, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
What VM says you can take to the bank. If, on election eve, Trump is somewhere like the Iron Range of Minnesota and Biden is trying to hold down the fort in Nevada, you know they know which way the election is headed. RobSFree Kyle! 15:27, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

Presidential Debate Commission chairman co-founder of "Color Revolution" organization against Trump

Rigged: The Chairman of the Presidential Debate Commission is Co-Founder of “Color Revolution” Org Linked to Steele Dossier and MoreRevolver News, Friday, October 9, 2020, 8a (CDT)

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:00, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

We got it on MPR. But seriously, I haven't had time to read it yet. Have you? RobSFree Kyle! 15:29, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

FISA subsource

You scared me; I thought you guys scooped me by fractions of hours again. There was a conversation on Twitter where they said if you don't understand something you should, like when Trump couldn't explain the communist "critical race theory" he banned for government training (which some actually tried to defy), you should blame others, by saying phrases like: "We're not having this conversation" or "I'm exhausted having to explain x.." or "You need to do the work. I won't do it for you."
I read about the other color revolution kingpin more than this one. I am kind of jammed with getting you stuff. I don't know whether you already know or posted, either, in the Obamagate articles the news Steele's main sub-source was investigated by the FBI as a Russian spy, the FBI interrogated him for three days in January 2017, and those in the FBI who employed Steele knew it. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 18:15, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
There's what Horowitz wrote in those articles. I don't like "alleged Russian spy" cause there's already enough about Trump and Flynn using that same phrase. RobSFree Kyle! 20:04, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
Even on an off-the-cuff basis, I presented that badly. The "spying" was investigated around 2006-09, the IC "insurance" schemers knew it, and what they interrogated him about in January 2017 is anybody's guess. You mentioned Steele's IC "handlers" in the articles, so I imagine, it had to do with that. But regardless of what I present, you shape the articles the way you think best if you see a way you want to improve. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 00:48, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
The January 2017 was vetting the Steele dossier. Horowitz actually covers all this. Off the top of my head, Horowitz made some allusion to the subsource having been previously known or investigated by the FBI. Ratcliffe basically recycled old news.
The real story or scandal here is (A) the DOJ/FBI hoaxed the court and obtained an illegal warrant in October 2016, promising the court they would get more information and vetting of their evidence (which they knew was bull from the start). (B) The FBI went through the motions of vetting the subsource in January 2017 for the 90 day renewal; when the subsource told them it was all complete B.S., the FBI reported to the court that they located and interviewed the subsource, and that they believed the subsource was telling them the truth (i.e., without telling the court that the subsource said it was all B.S.). IOW, the DOJ/FBI swore under oath to the court that they believed what the subsource said was B.S. without telling the court it was B.S.
This is how Comey, McCabe, Strzok et al cabal operated. RobSFree Kyle!
I'm shocked that you accuse me of getting this information from DNI Ratcliffe's releases! Not true. On the contrary, my source brought this to DNI Ratcliffe's attention!
By Horowitz, you of course mean FBI DOJ Inspector General (IG) Horowitz. I recall Obama and Holder took away the Inspector General Office's powers to secure documents from FBI employees during their administration. I also think I recall some of Horowitz's observations didn't make it to the report he authored.
So much for sources on the story. I had to laugh out loud when I read you say the subsource told the FBI his own report (the Steele Dossier) was all B.S.
I see what you mean when you say the fact the sub-source was or wanted to be a Russian spy, while amusing, just distracts from the main story of defrauding the FISA court (whose powers were meant to investigate foreign spying, but used against America's first domestic office-holder, President Trump by means of not only "suspicion" [phony, through the bogus Dossier]-by-association of indirect non-acquaintances, but with every rationale for even suspecting [and thus legally permitting an investigation of] those campaign underlings-at-their-own-will exposed as bogus—if not laboriously fabricated by yet still other bogus means!). VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 07:57, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
Here's the citation provided in Obamagate timeline 2017: Horowitz FISA Abuse Report, pps 186-190. So the report has to be reloaded for those 4 pages to be reviewed. Incidentally, the report does not provide a date of the interview, but it appears to have happened a day or so after the first FISA renewal.
What does this mean? (A) The FBI already knew the subsource was an "alleged" Russian spy through the first two FISA representations made to the court; (B) the FBI likely delayed the information in the first renewal, alleging they hadn't located the subsource yet (we don't know, cause it's unlikely we will ever see a fully unredacted version of the first renewal); (C) most importantly, the FISA renewal authorized surveillance of President Trump and his entire administration beyond Obama's term of office, which was the problem being discussed in the January 5 Oval Office meeting. RobSFree Kyle! 18:20, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
As a by-note, the entire counterintelligence gathering process and FISA reporting system has to be overhauled now, cause too much about "sources and methods" has been revealed over the past few years. By "methods", I mean being able to read and understand FISA court documents. These revelations are unprecedented in understanding "methods". RobSFree Kyle! 18:26, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
It's been a well kept, bi-partisan secret how the FISA process works for 40 years, until Obama and the communists got their hands on it. RobSFree Kyle! 18:28, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
Here's The Federalist reporting from last April: "Steele’s primary sub‐source told the FBI “that the subsource who provided the information about the Carter Page‐Sechin meeting had connections to Russian Intelligence Services (RIS)." It also references Footnotes 342, 347, and 350. So as I said, recycled news. MSM just simply has always refused to report on it. RobSFree Kyle! 18:41, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
I think what's important here is not the implications of the abuse of the FISA process for national security, but that you hurt my feelings about the originality of my scoop.
My "source" was really just a news source, Senator Lindsey Graham's Twitter account reporting a letter to him Sept. 24, 2020 by Bob Barr via the Twitter account of Catherine Herridge of CBS News. She must be reporting this to pretend to be revealing stuff about Democrats but really just be a distraction.
Thank you for your cool reports on Obamagate timeline 2017 and its related branches in Conservapedia. Through your steadfast reporting, you've become like me...indispensible! VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 20:16, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
It's big and confusing. What's really scarry is Nunes, Grenell, and Gowdy saying now it's even bigger than you imagine.
They only real news we've had in recent days or weeks is that the whole Russia hoax was Hillary's idea, transmitted to Brennan, picked up by the Russians, and Obama being told it was Hillary's idea and the Russians already knew about it. All this before Strzok opened the bogus operation.
In sum: Hillary colluded with the Russians to meddle in the 2016 election, Brennan and Obama knew about it, and the FBI opened an investigation into Trump as a response. RobSFree Kyle! 22:07, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
For the average viewer or listener, one big lesson to be learned from the Trump-Russia hoax is how the FBI, CIA, and State Dept. manufacture fake news narratives. RobSFree Kyle! 22:16, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
—not...very...well. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 23:39, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
Here's three (or four) quick takeaways: (1) Steele and FusiionGPS paid MSM news sources to read the dossier and write about it. (2) The FBI/DOJ took the bogus articles and slapped them into the October FISA warrant as "independent corroborating evidence" to their investigation, knowing that the MSM fake news articles came from the same bogus source as their evidence presented to the court - the Steele dossier. (3) Read the Strzok-Page messages, especially early January plotting the coup and feeding the media (but you have the same thing in early July 2016 surrounding the Comey press conference clearing Clinton. And the Weiner laptop in late October. The only "crisis" or controversy inside the FBI was how it would play in the media. They never investigated the laptop and lied about clearing Clinton a second time). (4) And all the events to frame Flynn in media. (5) The latest is John Durhams's grand jury investigation of Daniel Jones. Jones was given $50 million to carry on the media smears of Trump with the "collusion hoax" after Trump took office, RobSFree Kyle! 00:03, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
The latest: CBS Obtains 94-Page Outline Showing FBI and Chris Steele Collaborative Use of Media Reporting.
This is why I pay little attention news headlines. I know they're manufactured and fake.RobSFree Kyle!
"Former SSCI staffer Dan Jones, former Wall Street Journal reporter Glenn Simpson, and Simpson’s crew at Fusion-GPS, pitched and planted phony Trump-Russia evidence with the media and simultaneously gave those fake points to Chris Steele to supplement the dossier. Using the same method of Ezra Klein’s “JournOList” replication, Dan Jones and Fusion-GPS paid the journalists to run the stories.

Steele then used the same information from Jones and Fusion in his Dossier and cited the planted media reports; as evidence to substantiate. The Dossier is then provided to the FBI. The journalists then provide *indulgences* to the FBI as part of the collaboration.

The FBI, specifically Lisa Page, Peter Strzok and public information office Mike Kortan, then leak the outcomes of the FBI Dossier investigative processes to the same media that have reported on the originating material. It is all a big circle of planting and laundering the same originating false material; aka a “wrap up smear.”
RobSFree Kyle! 22:47, 12 October 2020 (EDT)

I don't think you're alone. It wasn't the "circle" that convinced me there was some indirect underlying reality, if I expressed it inartfully before. It was the conspicuousness of the sheer stupidity of the pile it would leave if the "liberal claptrap" all collapsed that I couldn't believe someone would intentionally do to themselves. I mean you can hide overspending because a lot of people don't like numbers, but a Presidential ethics investigation? "Trump the Russian spy" doesn't fit any more than "Reagan the arms smuggler".

Now their energies are taxed with continuously re-establishing the Russia myth that exploded as Rachel Maddow, the chief narrator, lost half her audience overnight, like to this very day, with @Jack from Twitter recently originating a special notification for Tweets that are from "Russia". VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 03:12, 13 October 2020 (EDT)

This is the Democrat mindset since the Civil War and Reconstruction. The Nazis, Russians or CCP are not the enemy, or threat to national security, the Republicans are and have been since the GOP was founded in 1854. RobSFree Kyle! 06:54, 13 October 2020 (EDT)

MPR Republicans "maggots" speech: Keith Olbermann gives out Democratic endgame of which he is a part

You don't think I'm guilty, do you Rick?

Short version of MPR video shows a specific Keith Olbermann political escalation in the anti-Trump promotional YouTube speech (a presentation he obviously hoped would go viral) that a Twitterer noticed and set apart to demonstrate. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 19:15, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

Keith Olbermann - the Winston Churchill of the commie left. RobSFree Kyle! 19:50, 10 October 2020 (EDT)
So, how do you remove the maggots from society after you defund the police? Oh, silly me, the civilian national security force. How anyone could vote for that psychotic sociopath after that speech I will never understand. RobSFree Kyle! 19:56, 10 October 2020 (EDT)

Biden on court packing

Whether or not Biden supports fracking, the Green New Deal, anti-police riots, or a permanent covid lockdown is anyone's guess. But on one issue, his position is clear: He wants to pack the Supreme Court. When Trump asked about this issue at the debate, Biden's response was, 'Would you shut up, man?' FDR proposed expanding the membership of the court after the justices overturned some New Deal legislation in the 1930s. Congress turned the proposal down, but the threat of court packing was enough to scare the justices into approving FDR's agenda. For the next 80 years, no political idea was deader than court packing. But then Justice Ginsburg died. The Dems decided that if court packing was needed to maintain a liberal majority, they were ready to do it. See "Carlson: Democrat Court-Packing Plans ‘Closer Than a Lot of Republicans Want to Admit and You Should Be Worried About It’."

Biden's version court packing is all about partisan advantage. But there is something to be said for expanding the membership of the court. It would allow the Supreme Court to consider more cases using three-judge panels, as the appeals courts do. We need more justices and predictable terms so that a single death or retirement can be handled without a national trauma. The president could nominate four justices in each four year term. Whenever the total number of justices on the court exceeded 16, the justice who served the longest would retire. After that, a justice would normally serve for a 16-year term. A president who served two terms would end up appointing half the court. PeterKa (talk) 03:41, 11 October 2020 (EDT)

Look, I study communist propaganda closely, too. But I never allow it to affect my reasoned judgment. RobSFree Kyle! 04:08, 11 October 2020 (EDT)
Biden has certainly said some jaw-dropping things on this subject:
DiMattei: Well, sir don’t the voters deserve to know…?
Biden: No they don’t.... I'm not gonna play his game, he’d love me to talk about, and I’ve already said something on court packing, he’d love that to be the discussion instead of what he’s doing now.
Biden will keep his plan to destroy constitutional government to himself until after the election, thank you very much:
Biden: You’ll know my position on court-packing the day after the election.[10] PeterKa (talk) 05:11, 11 October 2020 (EDT)

Joe Biden is telling people they have to elect him to find out whether or not he'll destroy an entire branch of our government and render the Constitution obsolete. That's already worse than anything Trump has ever done as president.—@EddieZipperer, October 10, 2020, 7a

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 22:23, 11 October 2020 (EDT)

He wants to pack the Senate by adding a couple of extra states - which is equally as big an issue. RobSFree Kyle! 00:36, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
America could go down this path. Assuming somehow the remnants of a grassroots two-party system survived, and in future years or decades another party was able to capture "all three chambers of government", they could expand the Supreme Court from 15 to 31, add Guam as a state, split up Texas into 5 states, start splitting up counties in Idaho and Wyoming into separate states. And an opposition party to the commie Dems would have to make inroads into urban areas if the Electoral College is disposed of. It would become a contest to see if the Supreme Court or Senate would have 435 members first. That could even raise the prospect of bringing back the Electoral College since each new state would enlarge the House, as well. Let's call this glorious future, Hope you can believe in. RobSFree Kyle! 00:47, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
Let's give Peter some credit for trying to place an institutional buffer to absorb the blows of a Democratic Party periodically re-swollen with Marxism against our republic's judiciary. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 03:47, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
But if he does, he probably ought to respond to Alexander Hamilton's Federalist No. 78 on judicial term limits. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 06:26, 12 October 2020 (EDT)
Here is Hamilton: “…that a temporary duration in office, which would naturally discourage such characters from quitting a lucrative line of practice to accept a seat on the bench, would have a tendency to throw the administration of justice into hands less able, and less well qualified, to conduct it with utility and dignity.”
If my proposal above is implemented, being a justice would be slightly less prestigious than it is now. But I doubt that any qualified lawyer would turn it down for this reason. The median length of service of a Supreme Court justice went from 14 years in the 19th century to 26 years nowadays. So the 16 year term I proposed would be more in line with length of service in Hamilton's day. FDR proposed 15 justices, which seems to be a popular number in court expansion proposals. See "Should we restructure the Supreme Court?" from the Brookings Institute.
I suppose odd numbers are popular because people think that there should be a Supreme Court majority on every issue. But I don't see anything wrong with the occasional split decision. In Bush versus Gore, the court should not have ordered a stop to the counting in Florida since the 5-4 vote undermined its legitimacy. Unless rival slates of electors are submitted to Congress, as in 1876, there is no need for a vote counting dispute to go to the federal courts. More recently, John Roberts upheld DACA while admitting anonymously that he would prefer that this law be overturned, just not by a 5-4 vote. Wouldn't an openly tied outcome have more legitimacy than for Roberts to privately bash an opinion that he himself is the author of? If the Supreme Court had three judge panels, a tie would simply mean that whatever decision the panel had arrived at would remain in force. PeterKa (talk) 07:06, 13 October 2020 (EDT)

Nunes speech

Rep. Devin Nunes Opening Statement for Hearing with Joseph B. Maher October 2, 2020

Welcome to another hearing of the Trump Impeachment Committee, formerly known as the House Intelligence Committee.

I’ll begin by noting that there’s no reason for this hearing to be held in public except to try to stir up media interest in the Democrats’ latest publicity stunt—their attack on the leadership of the Department of Homeland Security. The only reason Mr. Maher was subpoenaed to be here today was as leverage. It was meant to force DHS to rush though a Top Secret/SCI security clearance for the attorney of the Democrats’ new whistleblower without doing an appropriate background check.

In fact, there was no reason for the Democrats to make this whistleblower complaint public at all—but of course, handling whistleblower complaints with discretion, as this committee had always done before this Congress, is not helpful to publicity stunts, so here we are.

Let’s recall that Democrats on this committee were at the forefront of the Russia collusion hoax. For years, they falsely claimed they’d found secret evidence of Trump’s conspiracy with Russia. They issued memos defending the FISA warrant to spy on Trump associate Carter Page, and they even tried to get naked pictures of Trump from Russian pranksters. They also touted the credibility of the Steele Dossier and read Steele’s allegations into the Congressional Record at this Committee’s hearings.

After a two-year investigation, however, Special Counsel Mueller failed to find the secret collusion evidence the Democrats claimed to possess. And since then we’ve learned that the Steele dossier the Democrats championed was a mix of fake stories, rumors, barroom gossip, and jokes collected by a suspected Russian spy at the behest of the Democratic National Committee and the Hillary Clinton Campaign. Furthermore, the Department of Justice Inspector General found the FISA warrant application that the Democrats defended was riddled with mistakes and omissions, withheld exculpatory evidence, and relied on a doctored email hiding Carter Page’s past cooperation with a U.S. intelligence agency.

The Democrats have not called a single hearing to investigate any of those issues, even though this committee is supposedly dedicated to overseeing the Intelligence Community and investigating abuses. They’ve held a hearing on global warming but don’t care about documented corruption of the FISA process or suspected Russian agents compiling political dirt for the Democratic Party.

After Mueller testified to this committee and again failed to expose the mythical collusion conspiracy, the Democrats suddenly switched tracks and impeached President Trump based on an anonymous whistleblower complaint from a bureaucrat who, we later learned, had coordinated his attack with Democratic staff, despite the Democrats insisting they had no such contact with him.

Although the Democrats brought our oversight work to a halt for months and completely transformed this committee into an impeachment committee—holding ridiculous secret depositions that were leaked nightly to their media stooges, followed by public show trials with the most useful witnesses—the impeachment in the House was such a transparent fraud that not a single Republican voted for it.

After the collapse of the Russia collusion hoax and the failure to oust Trump via impeachment, the Democrats suddenly ginned up a new investigation, issued their usual slew of press releases, and have now forced us into an open hearing. And it’s certainly amusing that, although this complaint is supposed to be handled by the Inspector General first, the Democrats have dispensed with the IG as an unnecessary middle man—probably because IG investigations take time, and the Democrats are operating on an election deadline.

Of course, this all has a familiar ring to it, almost as if the Democrats are following a playbook. Usually, you don’t follow the playbook from a game you’ve lost. But once again, they are pushing into the limelight a complaint by a whistleblower—who just happens to be represented by the same lawyer who represented the impeachment whistleblower. Small world.

It may seem that the whistleblower has some credibility problems. After all, he sent an email directly contradicting his allegations. Furthermore, the Democrats themselves called him a liar just a few weeks before he filed his complaint, but now he’s their star witness. Nevertheless, I have no doubt my Democratic colleagues will breeze right past these contradictions, and that their media mouthpieces won’t draw any attention to these awkward problems, just like they’ll ignore the testimony of multiple career officials, delivered during the interviews they’ve scheduled, which contradicts their whistleblower’s claims.

So, here we go again, indulging the Democrats’ dream that they’ll find the holy grail of scandals that finally gets rid of Trump without beating him at the polls. Of course, foreign threats and intelligence challenges don’t grind to a halt while they pursue these fantasies. But in the Democrats’ view, all that can be put on hold while they try to gin up yet another partisan witch-hunt.

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 03:32, 12 October 2020 (EDT)

Whichever staffer helped assemble and write that deserves a payraise, and probably a shot at running for office someday. RobSFree Kyle! 18:21, 12 October 2020 (EDT)

Shifty-eyed Harris doesn't read a teleprompter well

Granted, probably a bit better than Trump. RobSFree Kyle! 18:21, 12 October 2020 (EDT)

Biden's latest ad. More Biden hate. RobSFree Kyle! 12:43, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
In a rally of four, one person applauds. RobSFree Kyle! 12:45, 14 October 2020 (EDT)
Obama paid-off Joe w/ VP position. RobSFree Kyle! 20:59, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
Jeffery Toobin . . . Exposé. RobSFree Kyle! 01:53, 20 October 2020 (EDT)

Tech giants censor Biden news

Biden family text with Hunter telling his sister Naomi that "Pop" Joe Biden received 50% of the Burisma kickbacks.[1]
Documents show payments from Burisma to Hunter Biden.[2][3][4][5]

Is Hunter Biden a conduit for enormous foriegn bribes intended to influence his father? Or does his coke-addled brain contain the exact skill set that movers and shakers seek? That's none of your business, according to Joe Biden and our tech giant overloads. Here is The New York Post article that created the uproar: "Smoking-gun email reveals how Hunter Biden introduced Ukrainian businessman to VP dad." Amazingly, the Biden campaign's response does not deny the article's assertion that Joe met with Pozharskyi, the No. 3 executive in Burisma, the Ukrainian company that "employed" Hunter in a no show job for $50,000 an month. The left's response is mostly to accuse to the Post of relying on Russian hacking. So it is pretty clear that the story is accurate. The big reveal is not the unexciting tidbit that the Bidens are leechs on our body politic, but rather that Twitter and Facebook are all in when it comes to censoring this type of material.

In the 1870s, robber barron Jay Gould bought telegraph companies and used the access this got him to hit it big in the stock market. As a result, the telegraph became a "common carrier" that could not show preference to one customer over another. As extensions of the telegraph companies, the telephone companies were put under similar regulations. So Gould's legacy is still with us. If our stock market deserves such protection, what about our democracy? As individuals, our right to participate in partisan politics is limited by the campaign finance laws. Filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza was jailed for a making a $20,000 donation. But it seems that the tech giants are free to engage in partisan censorship on a grand scale.

Regulation should be about functionality. What was once done by telegraph wires is now done by social media software. Once a communication company grows to a certain size and influence, it should be treated as a common carrier. PeterKa (talk) 09:23, 16 October 2020 (EDT)

Given what's been revealed, it's time to do some serious analysis of the Biden family. IMO, the Bidens of Delaware view themselves heirs of their neighboring Rhode Island and Massachusetts role models - the Kennedys - Irish, Roman Catholic, civil rights leaders and advocates whom blacks are indebted to, and not without family problems. Hunter's text to his sister Naomi is being misread: "I Hope you can do what I did and pay for everything Fro [sic; he must have been high on crack at the time] 30 years". Hunter is not complaining about paying child support for the past 30 years, Naomi is not his daughter but rather Joe's daughter and Hunter's sister, and he's talking about the next 30 years, not the past 30 years, as is being misreported. The "I don't receive any respect and thats fine I guess" is most telling about an intra-family squabble. And no, Hunter is not talking about "Pops" taking 50% of Hunter's allowance as a child. It rather looks like Hunter put Naomi on the payroll of some income-producing entity capitalized with the cash he made in partnership with his father in the Burisma and China schemes. Hunter is the front man for the 'big guy'. RobSFree Kyle! 13:43, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
PeterKa rightly points out two big issues to discern here: (1) Biden family corruption which could be disposed of in the election and then move onto Sec. 230 reform as the number one priority, and (2) in the absence of Biden family corruption being disposed of but rather tolerated with an election win, Sec. 230 reform becomes moot, and Biden family corruption then becomes the main focus. RobSFree Kyle! 14:03, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
Here is Section 230: “No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." So if someone creates an anonymous account on Facebook and uses it to libel you, there is no one you can sue. That's certainly a problem. Perhaps everyone who posts should be required to give a real name. But I see the Biden censorship situation as big tech evading the campaign contribution rules that apply to us little people. PeterKa (talk) 20:48, 16 October 2020 (EDT)
As to Twitter's actions, had Twitter censored the New York Times publication of The Pentagon Papers in 1970 as it just did The New York Post, Nixon would have felt no need to form the Plumbers unit, there would have been no Watergate breakin, and he would have served two terms. RobSFree Kyle! 13:52, 17 October 2020 (EDT)
{Incidentally, I recently found out the origin of the phrase, "fifty-cent word" comes from the days when telegraph companies charged by the letter to send a telegram.] RobSFree Kyle! 14:29, 17 October 2020 (EDT)

Section 230

So the question revolves around the future of Section 230. In my reading, I don't see any consensus to repeal Section 230, or for that matter drastic new legislation. It appears the FCC will be called upon to rewrite and/or enforce stricter regulations against service carriers who engage in "censorship", "shadow banning", and "fact checking". How this will be enforced is another question, through fines and prison terms, etc.. And the question of what recourse and processes complainants have to go through, etc. etc..

The good news or bad news depending on perspective is, conservatives now must learn to function within the administrative state. It can't be dismantled, evidently. RobSFree Kyle! 14:05, 17 October 2020 (EDT)

Also, anti-trust action must be initiated against Big Tech monopolies, hand in glove with FCC regulation. This, after all is what spawned the birth of populism after Reconstruction (collusion between the monopolist railroad transport industry and fossil fuel producers to screw the little guy, first driving the little guy out of business with lower prices, then gouging the public with higher prices. We see the same collusion today between Big Tech social media and establishment legacy media). RobSFree Kyle! 14:14, 17 October 2020 (EDT)

Without Section 230, social media companies would be publishers. You could post something libelous about yourself on Facebook and then sue Facebook. I don't think that's going to work. Large social media companies should be regulated as common carriers like the telephone companies. PeterKa (talk) 07:38, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
I'm mixed on anti-trusts. On the one hand, I can see how they might work, but on the other hand, Larry Schweikart indicated that anti-trust actions if anything actually WORSENED situations rather than actually made them better. Pokeria1 (talk) 08:24, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
ATT was broken up into 5 entities in 1979. The first cell phones appeared about 1986. I can't imagine what it would have been like if ATT still had monopoly control. True, there wouldn't have been scams like the Worldcom scandal, but long distances "toll calls" have all but disappeared with creative destruction and competition. RobSFree Kyle! 11:00, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
I would have to research a bit deeper into the break up of Standard Oil, but monopoly control of the telecommunications up to 1979 retarded technological growth. ATT was essentially "sovietized"; maintaining union workers' jobs in a stale industry without competition hampered technological improvement. RobSFree Kyle! 11:10, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
The argument against breaking up the ATT monopoly usually is centered on the layoff off of 2 million telephone operators. But in restoring competition, whole new industries were born. RobSFree Kyle! 11:05, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
Big Tech is reminiscent of just how proud and arrogant ATT grew by the 1970s. RobSFree Kyle! 11:24, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
Talking about Section 230, that may be the very reason that the FCC's website came under an apparent attack recently, suspected to have been launched by the Big Tech companies (including Google, one of the companies under FCC investigation for illegal election interference, censorship of conservative voices and enabling and encouragement of the recent leftist violence going on): FCC website under attack by big tech? In doing this, the Big Tech companies have proven the FCC's point and may very well have ended up digging their own graves for their open defiance and rebellion against the Trump administration and aiding and abetting of the Democrat/Antifa/BLM insurrection. Northwest (talk) 09:24, 20 October 2020 (EDT)
Justice Thomas recently laid out the path to sue. Big Tech has essentially used bait-and-switch tactics, luring in users to give up all their personal information, monetizing them, profiting off them, changing the rules, de-monetizing, blocking, banning and slandering them. RobSFree Kyle! 09:38, 20 October 2020 (EDT)

National security

It appears the allegation is being made that the Chinese Communist Party carried out an Epstein-style blackmail operation on Hunter Biden. RobSFree Kyle! 13:55, 18 October 2020 (EDT)

The way it worked

Hunter Biden would open up bank accounts in Rosemont Seneca's name; Rosemont Seneca pretended to be an investment firm/hedge fund. A foreign oligarch, some of whom were under sanctions (e.g. Kazak oligarch, Moscow mayor's wife), would give Hunter millions of dollars. Rosemont Seneca took 21%, split three ways, Hunter, Chris Heinz, and Devon Archer. Hunter's 1/3 was split then two ways, Hunter and "Pops". The oligarch then would receive the balance of their 79% in some U.S. dollar-denominated stock or investment.

This is just the tip of iceberg; Hunter and Rosemont Seneca then formed new joint ventures with the Chinese Communist Party and Chinese military through the CCP-controlled bank of China. RobSFree Kyle! 13:46, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Prior to being VP, Biden's corruption was limited to having Hunter paid by Delaware banks as a lobbyist to fight bankruptcy reform and credit card interest caps. The family fortune is now tied to the continuing success of the Chinese Communist Party and Chinese military.

Biden family corruption is nothing new; the Clinton Foundation, McCain Foundation, Obama Foundation, Romney, et all are all involved in this sort of scheme. In Ukraine, for example, the Congress votes an aid package; Biden is put in charge of doling it out. The Open Society Foundation and others become the recipients of the aid. OSF doles it out to Clinton Foundation initiatives, McCain Foundation, etc. Some of it makes it way to Burisma. The Bidens get a kickback. Many Senators have been involved in this Uniparty corruption for a very long time. RobSFree Kyle! 13:59, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

One can imagine John Kerry and the Heinz's had a very similar arrangement. RobSFree Kyle! 14:00, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Dear Dr. Fauci, A shield is not merely good for Captain America!

Each year thousands of dogs are stolen in China and as many as 20 million dogs are killed in China to satisfy the dog meat industry. According to ABC News, gruesome techniques are used in Chinese dog slaughterhouses.[1] See also: Atheism and animal abuse

The New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) is a prestigious medical journal.

NEJM just published COVID-19: Adding Face Shields to Masks / Multisystem Inflammatory Syndrome in Children

The NEJM article states: "Face shields: Wearing a face shield on top of a surgical mask may reduce community health workers' risk for COVID-19, according to a JAMA research letter. Community workers in India wore face masks and other personal protective equipment when conducting home visits to counsel asymptomatic household contacts of people who tested positive for SARS-CoV-2. After 12 of 62 workers tested positive, the uninfected workers started to also wear face shields. After face shields were added, no workers tested positive."

Evidently, Dr. Fauci believes that a shield only works for Captain America. Otherwise, surely he would be telling Americans to wear coronavirus face shields in addition to wearing masks.Conservative (talk) 02:57, 19 October 2020 (EDT)

Coronavirus spread among my work colleagues for awhile, but I continue to be untouched by the virus that originated in atheist controlled mainland China. See: Atheism and the Wuhan coronavirus epidemic
I now have 2 face shields and I have decided to only grocery shop during non-peak hours. I am also doing some things to boost my immune system.
By the way, unlike many atheists I continue to eschew the eating of cats, dogs, rodents, snakes and bats! See: Dietary practices of atheists
I've got the power!.Conservative (talk) 07:14, 25 October 2020 (EDT)

Live updates for the final 2020 presidential debate

  • Biden blames COVID-19 deaths on Trump when many were due to the incompetence of Democrat governors, in addition to relying entirely on face masks to deter the virus
  • Biden claims that "we're going into a dark winter"
  • Biden says Trump "did virtually nothing" and says "C'mon!"
  • Trump: "We can't lock ourselves in a basement."
  • Biden says that Trump doesn't take responsibility; fact-check: Mostly False
  • Biden declines to respond to Trump
  • Biden blames Trump for shutdowns initiated by inept Democrat governors; Trump brings up governors Cooper and Cuomo
  • Trump brings up the economic devastation caused by lockdowns; Biden claims that coronavirus spikes are occurring in red states when blue states have had spikes as well
  • the moderator praises Fauci
  • Trump roasts Biden over Wall Street contributions
  • Biden claims that there's Russian interference and falsely claims that Giuliani is a "Russian pawn"; he also repeats the uncorroborated "bounties" myth
  • Trump notes Biden's campaign contributions from Moscow
  • Trump notes his sanctions against Russia and calls for an explanation from Biden regarding the emails
  • Biden says that he hasn't received money from foreign sources and obsesses over Trump's tax returns
  • Biden says that Hunter's ties to China and Ukraine were not unethical; he says he was never "out of line" despite admitting to quid pro joe
  • Biden says that Hunter didn't do anything wrong
  • Biden says that Trump increased the U.S. deficit with China; the numbers went down several times
  • Biden says that Trump "embraces" the leaders of China and North Korea; Trump has enacted tariffs and tough policies
  • Trump fervently defends his economic nationalist trade policies
  • Biden ironically says that Trump brings up "malarkey" and falsely claims that he doesn't bring up "the issues"
  • Trump touts record peace with North Korea
  • Biden pushes a Hitler comparison
  • Trump touts his administration's termination of Obamacare's totalitarian individual mandate
  • Biden continuously looks down and increasingly looks tired
  • Biden claims that a public option will increase competition between companies, and also falsely claims that he and Obama didn't take away people's private insurance
  • Trump notes that the moderator didn't mention fracking
  • Biden claims that Trump "hasn't did a thing on healthcare"; Trump repealed the individual mandate
  • Biden says that Trump tried to cut Medicare when the program was hurt by the Obamacare-installed Independent Payment Advisory Board [11]
  • Biden praises the pork-filled HEROES Act
  • Biden falsely [12] claims that McConnell wanted states to go bankrupt
  • Biden calls for bailing out small businesses and denounces the inability for coronavirus relief to pass when Democrats blocked such
  • Biden says that raising the minimum wage does not hurt businesses, which has been proven false
  • Trump notes kids in cages under the Obama presidency
  • Trump accurately defends himself from the "kids in cages" accusation, as such was due to a court ruling during the Obama era
  • Biden promises to give citizenship to 11 million illegal aliens
  • Unlike Biden, Trump denounces catch and release policies
  • Biden says that "there's institutional racism" in the U.S.
  • Trump notes Biden's record with the crime bill
  • Biden continues looking down and appears tired/sleepy
  • Biden ignores his racist record
  • Biden: "mini-mandatories"
  • Trump to Biden: "I ran because of you"
  • Trump mentions the "laptop from hell"
  • Biden repeats the false claim that the accusations against him were because of the "Russians"
  • Trump touts his record, including enacting criminal justice reform
  • Biden refers to the Proud Boys as the "Poor Boys"
  • Biden giggles as Trump brings up his crime bill and the devastating effects on black Americans
  • Biden says that "no one" should be jailed for pure drug offenses when that happened due to his crime bill signed by Bill Clinton
  • Trump to Biden: "Why didn't he get it done? All talk, and no action."
  • Biden answered "Republican Congress" when asked why he "couldn't get it done"; the first two years of the Obama presidency included Democrat control of both Houses of Congress
  • Trump touts his environmental record in reducing carbon emissions
  • Biden continues looking down and appearing weary
  • Biden promotes hysterical climate alarmism and defends extensive/excessive environmental regulations
  • Biden cites "Wall Street firms"
  • Trump notes the massive expenses of Biden's environmental plan
  • Biden comes off as increasingly tired and wheezy and claims that Trump thinks windmills cause cancer
  • Trump accurately notes that solar isn't "powerful yet"
  • Biden claims to oppose banning fracking when he previously supported such
  • Trump touts accomplishments on energy
  • the moderator avoids the topic of fracking
  • Biden bashes the oil industry
  • Biden claims that Trump "takes everything out of context" when he does that
  • Biden mentions "decency, honor, respect" when he committed quid pro joe

LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 21:38, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

PeterKa proven correct!

As PeterKa had previously mentioned here:

There seems be a consensus that Trump was too belligerent and interrupted too much. This strategy worked with Hillary in 2016. But if Trump had allowed Biden to finish his thoughts, the audience would have had better sense of how serious his mental decline is. 22:53, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 22:42, 22 October 2020 (EDT)

Missing Main Page Twitter Link

I'm not sure if anyone has noticed or if this was intentional, but the link on the Main Page to Conservapedia's Twitter is missing. ---BernieandTrumpFan (talk) 01:35, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

Closing arguments before the election

What are the best arguments we can use to convince friends and relatives to vote for Donald Trump as opposed to Joe Biden? Probably not Hunter. What with Whitewater, Uranium One, "pay to play" at the Clinton State Department, and her nonsecure top secret emails, Hillary came with a full set of scandals. But they barely slowed her down. That the media is censoring Trump's comments about Hunter's corruption is a disturbing twist. If they can get away with censoring the president, what chance does the average climate realist or covid realist have?

All you really need to remember is that Trump loves America. Biden, or at least his running mate Kamala Harris, wants to destroy our constitutional republic and replace it with a one-party socialist state. They also plan to take away our oil, gas, and passenger air travel in service of global warming pseudo-science.

What attracts Dems to this type of proposal? After all, aren't they the ones who believe in overpopulation and reducing the birth rate? Perhaps they see illegal immigrants as their future voters and are indifferent as to whether they bankrupt the nation or not.
The Dems' idea of a killer argument is, "Trump puts kids in cages!" Uh, what do they think should be done about child trafficking, which exploded in response to Obama's DACA order? The Dems' say, "Stop using the word coyote!" They will go to bat when a human trafficker gets called a rude name, but they have no plan to protect the victims.
  • Constitutionalism. Harris is the most left-wing and anti-constitutional senator in the U.S. Senate. She could easily have more influence in a Biden administration than Biden himself. She wants to expand the Supreme Court to add anti-American justices, and, for good measure, pack the Senate. Assuming Elizabeth Warren gets the attorney general slot, the Department of Justice will begin setting up truth commissions to hunt down conservatives. If you put these items together, what you have is a plan to create a one-party socialist state. The future the left has in mind for us is not the ruthlessly efficient Chinese state, but something more like Venezuela. In fact, the idea of court packing is based on something Hugo Chavez did back in 2005.
While Biden's idea of a great judicial pick is Obama, Trump has appointed a set of outstanding constitutionalists and has released a list of more.
  • The Wuhan virus. In his video below, Fox host Tucker Carlson discusses Biden's support for the "Heroes act." This bill, which has already passed the house, would give illegal aliens covid stimulus checks retroactively, ban voter ID laws, and make sure marijuana businesses have access to banking and insurance.
Biden has gotten a lot of milage out of the covid issue. But how would the Dems have handled it? They cite Obama's approach to Ebola as a model. When public opinion demanded travel restrictions to slow the spread of Ebola, Obama airly dismissed the idea and blamed it all on "cable news." Biden denounced the idea of imposing travel bans against covid as xenophobic and racist. It's an unserious approach to public health. To the Dems, an epidemic is another crisis they can use to push the country further to the left.
  • Intelligence. For forty years, the Dems have complained about how dumb Ronald Reagan and other Republican presidents were. So the answer is Biden? Biden did an OK job for most of the debate, but he started to nod off toward the end. It took him four days to prepare. Is he napping or taking some drug? His campaign won't explain. Without that preparation, he has a hard time stringing together a coherent sentence. He's only getting worse. Anyone who thinks the Biden can slow down Harris and the radicals needs to think again. Biden has always been for sale, whether the buyer is credit card company MBNA, Burisma, or Bank of China. It's not that Harris or AOC will make him sacrifice his principles. He never had any. See "Biden Looked Normal At The Debates, So Why Does He Appear Senile At Most Other Times?."
  • Economics. Almost everone thinks the economy will do better under busnessman Trump than under business haters Biden and Harris. Why vote against your economic interests? Is it the riots? Who thinks the Democrats would be better at handling covid, China, or Iran?
You gotta see this ad. It's the closing ad of the Lincoln Project, what they consider to be their most effective material. Why do we have to vote against Trump? Well, if he is reelected this year, he could be reelected again in 2024. PeterKa (talk) 05:17, 29 October 2020 (EDT)
The Dems have restarted the riots in Phily, DC, and other cities. So we have a new argument to vote for Trump. There is no longer any political logic to rioting, but the Democrats just can't stop themselves from doing it. Somebody has to put the ringleaders in jail, and a reelected Trump is more likely to do that than anyone else. PeterKa (talk) 09:41, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

The ambiguity in the Hunter Biden audio recording

At the end of the 1:19 recording, Hunter says:

Now in transcript, this can be read two ways:

  1. "named me and my father as witness{es) in a criminal case without telling me"
  2. "named me as a witness in a criminal case without telling me and my father"

Listening to the expression in the recording, I'm inclined to think Archer named both as witnesses. What do others think? RobSFree Kyle! 04:35, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

For context, here's what happened (I think I have this timeline straight):

  • Hunter met for lunch in Ye Jianming's Miami apartment and signed $4 billion deal to build a liquid natural gas port terminal. Hunter calls Ye "the richest man in the world". Ye cooked the lunch himself.
  • Dr. Patrick Ho - "the spy chief of China" - was working at a non-profit "think tank" funded by Ye that had "Special Consultative Status to the United Nations Social and Economic Council" as cover. Dr. Ho was arrested for bribing African officials at the UN for a deal that favored Ye's energy business.
  • Three months later Ye, "the richest man in the world", disappeared into the Chinese gulag presumably because of the screw up with Dr. Ho's arrest - "the spy chief of China" - which threatened to expose all of Chinese machinations.
  • Even after Ye's disappearance, Ye's business paid Hunter $1 million for Ho's defense. However, Hunter is not a criminal lawyer.
  • Sometime prior, approximately a year and half, Devon Archer - Hunter's American partner, was arrested in a bond scheme and at this point in time was coming to trial.
  • Hunter is near a mental breakdown in this recording, but as a crackhead, he was probably more than 75% there long before.

All these events, and all characters involved, beginning with the CCP intelligence services, Ye, Ho, Hunter, Archer, and yes Joe himself, and virtually everyone else involved in these schemes - ALL have extraordinarily poor judgement and are utterly reckless. It goes beyond just corruption and greed. RobSFree Kyle! 05:06, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

Liberals go back to bashing James Comey

Liberal commentators compare Hunter Biden's laptop to Anthony Weiner's laptop, which created turmoil in the days before the 2016 election. The incident doesn't seem to have swayed any measureable number of voters. The election was very close, so we can reasonably imagine that it was a decisive factor. But why fixated on this one incident when there are so many to chose from? The implication is that there was a conspiracy between Trump and FBI Director James Comey to defraud Hillary of her rightful presidency. We know from the Flynn affair that Comey reported politically sensitive information directly to Obama as opposed to going through the attorney general. So whatever Comey was doing must have been approved by Obama. Blaming Obama is a no go in Democrat politics. Blaming Comey is apparently the closest Hillary can go to saying what I assume she really believes, that Obama engineered her defeat. After all, if Hillary had been elected, Obama would then be irrelevent in our national politics. PeterKa (talk) 05:26, 28 October 2020 (EDT)

I can see the end of North Korea

Unlike his father and grandfather, Kim Jong-un doesn't have the hang of how succession works. Last year, the star of his sister, Kim Yo-jong, burned bright. The pundits said North Koreans would never accept a female ruler. Every Korean is familiar with the tale of the heroic Empress Myeongsong, so I am not so sure that's true. Be that as it may, it seems that the Kim Yo-jong era is already over. She has been replaced by Hyon Song-wol, a former member of the girl group Moranbang. The band has been described as North Korea's answer to the Spice Girls. Here is little diddy they produced about the joys of studying. It's got that old time throaty showtune thing going on. At least he isn't into hip hop. See "Kim Jong Un’s mystery woman sparks debate as sister, wife remain missing".

The problem with being an oriental god ruler is that it's hard to think anyone qualified to replace you. With death knocking on his door, Mao noticed that his long time prime minister, Zhou Enlai, was just not ready to move up to the No. 1 slot. So he offed Zhou by denying him access to Western medicine to treat his cancer. When Zhou died in January 1976, he was replaced with Hua Guofeng. Hua was a simple Mao worshipper. His claim to fame was that he turned Mao's childhood home in Shaoshan into a museum. This was enough to protect him from being purged in the Cultural Revolution. Apparachiks with experience were in short supply after the CR. The distinctly mediocre Hua rocketed up the ranks from museum caretaker to boss of Hunan Province to communist party supremo. But up against "capitalist roader" Deng Xiaoping, he didn't last long. PeterKa (talk) 06:08, 31 October 2020 (EDT)

Protect the constitution

This year's campaign has been quite a rollercoaster. At various times, the election was going to be about covid, riots and police, or fracking and fossil fuels. During the Amy Coney Barrett nomination, those issues were dwarfed by the constitutional question. Should America continue as a multiparty republic or transform itself into a Venezuelan-style one-party state with Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren (or whoever the attorney general turns out to be) as our maximum leaders?

Unike most Supreme Court nominations in recent memory, the Barrett nomination was not primarily about abortion. The complaints about McConnell's failure to hold hearings for Garland back in 2016 are just a smokescreen. The real issue is that Barrett's appointment will create a constitutionalist majority on the court. This sets up the court to block Harris's plan to rule by executive action. The left sees Obama's handling of DACA as a precedent. Biden, meanwhile, plans to appoint a commission on "Supreme Court reform" in order to add justices prepared to cooperate with the planned expansion of executive power. See "The Left Doesn't Fear Amy Coney Barrett, It Fears the Constitution" and "Why Does Kamala Harris Hate the Constitution?" PeterKa (talk) 10:51, 1 November 2020 (EST)

Biden Bus escorted out of Texas by the Trump Train

I wonder if this is something we ought to be celebrating with out clarifying first, the driver of the black truck rammed a Biden staffer's car. I hate Biden and his Whore of Babylon Kamala, but ramming cars is a Demo-crat tactic not a Conservative one. Seems a little False Flag-ish to me -- like Biden-KKKamala needed an excuse to get out of their Texas stumping because they know they're tanking in the polls. Thoughts? User:IScott

Amish rally for Trump

It's not over in Pennsylvania until the Amish vote. PeterKa (talk) 12:19, 3 November 2020 (EST)

Pennsylvania's certainly going to be interesting. It's important to note regarding the trends that Trump will most likely improve in the rural areas, while some of the affluent suburbs/urban areas in the Philadelphia area may trend Democrat, especially given the suburban areas to have a high share of flakes (I live in a suburb filled with flaky irrational people). However, the riots will likely trigger a large backlash against the Democrats among rational voters, which may help Trump in the state as part of an overall nationwide pattern. The fact that the executive branch of the Pennsylvania state government is run by Democrats isn't particularly helpful for Republicans, though I think Trump will be favored to win the state. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 12:25, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Speaking of the suburban/urban areas, this is certainly interesting. Why did Toomey slightly out-perform Trump in 2016? A large part of it were ticket-splitters in Chester County and Bucks County. Regarding the latter, RINO Brian Fitzpatrick who represents the area will likely outperform Trump in the 1st congressional district. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 12:28, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Typically the voting rate for Amish is around seven percent. They're big Trump fans and the voting rate is likely to be way up this year. A group of Amish were spotted at a Trump rally a few days ago. The Amish have big families and the population doubles every twenty years. Since they are in Pennsylvania and Ohio, they are well-positioned from an Electoral College standpoint.[13] PeterKa (talk) 13:14, 3 November 2020 (EST)

Stock market shoots up

The traders are always the first to know. I don't think the market would rise if Shutdown Joe was the winner: "Dow adds 554 points, as stocks post best election day since 2008." According to NBC News, the markets are excited because there is a "clear election winner." PeterKa (talk) 19:08, 3 November 2020 (EST)

2020 Election Results

Too many races are too close to call! Trump should win Florida. He is leading in Georgia and Kansas with about half the vote in. Texas is uneasily close. Trump should win that. Let's pray and watch. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 21:47, 3 November 2020 (EST)

Texas is a big state and they counted some blue counties first. It's not going for Biden. Florida is also safely in the Trump column. The big question mark at this point is Pennsylvania, where they seem to be doing a slow count. The loser of the night is the pollsters who told us it would be a huge Biden win. They did this in 2016 as well. They apparently learned that they can make more money by telling the media what it wants to hear. PeterKa (talk) 22:09, 3 November 2020 (EST)
CNN walked back it's call on Virginia. [14] RobSFree Kyle! 22:12, 3 November 2020 (EST)
Speaking of Virginia, here's something interesting: while I'm typing this reply at 10:37 EST, Gade is leading Warner for the Senate race. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 22:38, 3 November 2020 (EST)
With over 5 million votes cast, Trump wins by 8,000 in NC. RobSFree Kyle! 01:56, 4 November 2020 (EST)
It seems that Tillis also won his Senate race over Cunningham very narrowly. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 02:13, 4 November 2020 (EST)
My mistake. 80,000. RobSFree Kyle! 10:15, 4 November 2020 (EST)

FL 26th/27th districts

Take a look at this: Mucarsel-Powell and Shalala appears to have lost their House re-election efforts despite fake election ratings like Cook Political Report considering them lean/likely Democrat. I was thinking that Mucarsel-Powell might lose, but was not at all expecting Shalala to be defeated. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 22:16, 3 November 2020 (EST)


The Senate race for New Mexico is surprisingly close. And Cook Political gave the election a "Safe D" rating! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 00:28, 4 November 2020 (EST)

It looks looks like the Libertarian killed the Republican's chance. However, the Republican polled better than Trump, and the Lujan didn't do as good as Biden. RobSFree Kyle! 01:51, 4 November 2020 (EST)
Xocital Torres Small looks like she's on her way to defeat; 21,000 faked ballots is a tall order. RobSFree Kyle! 02:05, 4 November 2020 (EST)
Yeah, Walsh probably did siphon some support away from Ronchetti, probably drawing away anti-establishment libertarian/populist voters. I used to think Elisa Martinez would be the one best equipped to defeat Lujan, though I now believe Ronchetti to have been the better candidate because he ran on a more independent platform to appeal to some voters who dislike Trump but can't stand the Democrats. It's still quite impressive that Ronchetti managed to bring the margin within 6%.
As for Torres Small, only 68% of the expected vote has been reported so far for the district, so we'll still have to wait and see for further updates. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 02:09, 4 November 2020 (EST)

IA-1, etc.

According to here, it seems that Hinson is favored to win over Finkenauer. Unfortunately, Young seems defeated by Axne, and Miller-Meeks probably will lose to Hart. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 00:47, 4 November 2020 (EST)

The Senate race for Iowa seems to be a 2014 repeat; polls show a dead heat, the race is expected to be a "tossup", and who would've thought, Ernst wins by a handy margin! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 02:17, 4 November 2020 (EST)

The Crook Miserable Report

The Cook Political Report, or as I would now call the Crook Miserable Report, said that SC-1 was "Lean D", that FL-26 was "Lean D", that FL-27 was "Likely D", and those Democrat-held seats flipped Republican among others. Full essay/analysis on the now-laughingstock "election predictions expert" coming soon! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 02:30, 4 November 2020 (EST)

What is this? [15] RobSFree Kyle! 19:09, 4 November 2020 (EST)


Rumor has it the machines were made in China. [16] RobSFree Kyle! 23:56, 6 November 2020 (EST)

The post-Trump world

It is not quite over yet. If Trump takes either Nevada or Arizona, then it's on to Pennsylvania and some messy litigation over absentee ballots. Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf is the kingmaker there, the guy who decides which slate of electors is sent to Vice President Mike Pence for the count before Congress on January 6. Since Wolf is a Democratic and all, its hard to see a happy ending. The Dems are already discrediting the Election College. Unlike Hillary in 2016, Biden did win a popular vote majority. That it's taking some time to resolve matters has allowed allegations of fraud to gain currency. But it's not surprising that we've seen a few hiccups given that we just experienced the highest turnout rate of any U.S. election since Republican William Howard Taft defeated Democrat William Jennings Bryan back in 1908.

If Trump loses, I expect Pence to emerge quickly as head of the Republican party. Trump jumped up two to three points in the polls whenever he stayed on message, something Pence seems to do as easily as breathing. Pence's debate performance against Harris a few weeks back was much praised. PeterKa (talk) 00:27, 5 November 2020 (EST)

The GOP establishment, Romney, Bill Kristol, etc. would move to retake control of the GOP. Romney already has his daughter in place. RobSFree Kyle! 01:59, 5 November 2020 (EST)
We are now just one seat on the Supreme Court and couple of seats in the Senate away from a Marxist revolution. This election certianly showed the power of the vice presidency. What else did Biden have going for him? Obama picked Biden so he'd never have to worry about his running mate overshadowing him. That was before Biden's mental decline set in.
If America's new foriegn policy aligns with Biden's financial interests, Taiwan is going the way of Hong Kong. In the 1940s, Truman was only too eager to let Mao have Hong Kong and Taiwan. But Mao thought he had as many internal enemies as he could handle. That doesn't seem to be Xi's philosophy. There were a series of incidents in the Straits earlier this year, so things are heating up. Trump made some arms deals to beef up Taiwan's defenses. American-made Harpoon missiles and Reaper drones may be able to counter a D-Day style invasion. But Taiwan's most serious vulnerability remains submarines. China has 65 submarines, enough to blockade the island. Taiwan has four aging subs, two of which are strictly for training. PeterKa (talk) 07:23, 5 November 2020 (EST)
Trump is partially to blame for his current predicament. He unnecessarily aliented the female/minority electorate which gave ammunition to his opponents (Carly Fiorina "has an ugly face and is unelectable", he spoke about "allowing immigration from sh*thole countries"). He also made some mistakes during the coronavirus pandemic such as: downplaying the coronavirus situation such as not taking mitigation measures in the 3rd week of February and instead waiting until about the 2nd week of March; just promoting hydroxychloroquine without the key synergistic component of zinc sulfate (see: Vladimir Zelenko's coronavirus treatment); not promoting masks and social distancing when possible (Trump should have lead by example, but he was too vain to often wear a mask); not ramping up PPE using the Defense Act, etc. Trump was more concerned with the economy in the early stages of the pandemic than American's health. In addition, America had a lot of flaws in its election system as far as fraud and Trump could have worked on fixing this earlier in his presidency.
But not all the blame can be put on Trump. America was not ready for the pandemic before Trump as can be seen by: A medical establishment that is hostile to non-drug/non-surgery options such as zinc sulfate, see: Vladimir Zelenko's coronavirus treatment); an overweight population with many people with preexisting conditions; Obama never restocked PPE after swine flu; a populace which is more ignorant about science and other subjects than many developed countries (poor public schools and not as much school choice as Belgium); etc. A lot of Democrat state governors made mistakes too (Andrew Cuomo, etc.). Americans are also hyper-individualistic and divided which makes handling a pandemic more difficult (South Korean politicians and society acted more wisely cooperatively and did a much better handling the coronavirus pandemic).
But Trump had a lot of successes too during his presidency and he is not given enough credit for them (see: Donald Trump achievements). On the other hand, when you make some mistakes during a pandemic and help cost a lot of lives, it makes reelection much harder.Conservative (talk) 08:24, 17 December 2020 (EST)
Trump can run again in 2024 if he ultimately winds up losing in 2020. So its premature to speak of a post-Trump world. This is especially true given the weakness of the Biden/Harris ticket (Biden's age and cognitive decline, Harris is a weak candidate, etc.). Conservative (talk) 09:00, 17 December 2020 (EST)

State legislatures to the rescue?

For a state legislature to intervene in a post-election vote counting dispute, they would have to affirm they tried to hold a vote on election day and that it "failed." Nothing like that has ever happened before. Because the Supreme Court intervened in the 2000 election, many people have the idea the court is the final arbitrator of election disputes. According to the Electoral Count Act of 1887, Congress counts the Electoral College votes "certified by the executive of the State." So Pennsylvania's Democratic governor would still get the last say, no matter what the legislature did. PeterKa (talk) 10:51, 6 November 2020 (EST)

Article 1 Section 2 grants the power to the legislature to choose Electors. It would take a Constitutional Amendment, like direct election of Senators in the 17 Amendment, to take that power away from the state legislature. And SCOTUS will be happy to rule that way. RobSFree Kyle! 11:00, 6 November 2020 (EST)
You are overlooking this clause: "The Congress may determine the time of choosing the electors, and the day on which they shall give their votes; which day shall be the same throughout the United States." Congress has of course enacted a national election day law as authorized by this clause. That law can be bypassed if the state declares they tried to hold a vote on election day, but it failed. No state has ever tried to take advantage of this exception, so I think we can expect the governor and others to object. PeterKa (talk) 11:33, 6 November 2020 (EST)
Sure they can object. The 1887 law just instructs the legislatures to delegate to the sec. of state or an executive branch official to communicate the slate of electors to the federal government. The choosing of the electors still resides in the legislature. Each legislature has enacted its own provisions to chose electors (in virtually all states, the state parties submit their own slates to the sec. of state, the sec. of state certifies the winner, and then submits the slate of electors chosen by the party to the federal government. But state legislatures can override this process, chose their electors themselves just as they did when they chose Senators, and submit the results to Congress.) The legislatures ultimately have oversight over elections, and if they determine there was executive branch shenanigans at any level, they rescind the whole process and chose their own slate of electors. RobSFree Kyle! 12:38, 6 November 2020 (EST)
For example, in 2000 the Florida state legislature was ready to submit it's own slate by the deadline; however SCOTUS intervened and overruled the Florida supreme court's order to continue ballot rigging. RobSFree Kyle! 12:46, 6 November 2020 (EST)
An election redo is out of the question cause you can't find enough honest, qualified, experienced election officials quick enough to conduct a redo, and it would take too long to remove all the corrupt Democrats involved in botching this past election. So the state legislatures have to step in. RobSFree Kyle! 12:50, 6 November 2020 (EST)

Iowa's 2nd district

The congressional race in Iowa's 2nd congressional district has had 89% of the vote reporting for over a day now. What's taking so long? —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 17:29, 6 November 2020 (EST)

Main Page Right article

Regarding this article in the Main Page Right section:


Shouldn't the wikilinked section "ARTICLE II OF THE FED CONSTITUTION" actually link to the United States Constitution:Article II article (which actually applies here), not Full Text of the Confederate States Constitution#Section 1 - The President (which does not apply here as the Confederacy has been dead for over 150 years)? Northwest (talk) 02:50, 7 November 2020 (EST)

Good idea. Thanks. RobSFree Kyle! 12:12, 7 November 2020 (EST)

Biden clinches it: The world reacts

  • ABCNews (US) has the headline "What America can learn from Joe Biden and Kamala Harris winning the White House: ANALYSIS." I thought that this article might about how there is no longer an age barrier and that you can serve in high office regardless of how senile or corrupt you might be, or even how desprately your cokehead son needs to pay off his dealer. But, no, that's not it at all. This article is about how Harris deserves the credit for Biden's win because she added her "woman of color" magic to the ticket. Uh, say what? During the campaign, Harris was an embarassment who couldn't stop calling Biden a racist and a sexual predator -- or calling for "protests" after an election that she was presumably expecting to win. The media pushed hard for her in the primaries, but she dropped out when her polls went down to 4 percent. But she does have the vote that counts, which is Hillary's.
  • The Independent (British) says that Biden should pardon Trump. The argument here is that Trump needs to be nixonized. I don't think that the author has thought this one through. I say bring the trial on. Trump has blown through moderator after moderator. Would a judge be able to control him? The obvious question is, will they charge Trump with murdering Soleimani? If they don't, the left will never forgive Warren or whoever the attorney general turns out to be.
  • It very sad to read the Chinese media today. The only aspect of the election that they cover is unrest and riots, according to Hong Kong's South China Morning Post. The commies had high hopes last summer when they thought Biden was their ticket. After all, Bank of China has invested enough money with Hunter. Biden unveiled his China policy back in September. It turned out to be pretty much the same as Trump's. Nowadays, the Chinese media is reduced to hoping that the U.S. will dissolve in civil war. See "Election pushes US divide past tipping point: Global Times editorial." For Biden's China policy, see this Wall Street Journal article.
Have you seen this Sky News Australia report on ABC News reporting? But this is where we're at today - you have to watch Australian news to get American news. It's been this way all summer. [17] RobSFree Kyle! 23:25, 8 November 2020 (EST)

The president's got hairy legs!

There are so many questions about Biden's victory, which the media has now "called." For example, what is Biden's favorite shampoo? Little girls need to know before they visit the hair sniffer in chief. Will the Bank of China get angry when they find out that Hunter has spent their money on blow? Ah, the jokes about the new first family write themselves.

Biden won the popular vote by three points (51 to 48). Yet the vote for the House was essentially tied (49.4 Democrat to 49.2 Republican). That means that although Trump lost reelection by a convincing margin, it was a pretty good year for Republicans otherwise. The only explanation I have seen is that Trump supporters all voted for downballot Republicans, but that a significant number of Biden supporters voted only for Biden.

I don't think Democrats were all that excited about voting for Biden, at least not compared to voting for Obama in 2008. Yet Biden got at least 2 million more votes than Obama did. Was this a hate Trump vote? You might think that if you listened to the liberal media. But Trump's net approval was -20 percent in 2016 compared to -12 now.[18] The fix was in, but the fixers didn't care about downballot races? The Dems were ahead in the generic ballot this year by about seven points.[19] The generic ballot was a reasonably accurate predictor in 2016 and other years, but it will have to be reassessed.

Update. Biden's approval has been rising steadily since the primaries. Perhaps the difference in the outcome between 2016 and 2020 is that Hillary was a historically unpopular candidate. Biden will run out of mojo, perhaps in a matter of months. Then it'll be Harris, who won't be any more popular than Hillary. PeterKa (talk) 09:07, 8 November 2020 (EST)

Or so the Democrats and their liberal media and Big Tech puppets think. But when their vote fraud fiasco comes crashing down on them (and it will), it's going to be the Democrats' worst nightmare come true - particularly for Obama, the Clintons, Pelosi and the non-elected Biden/Kamala ticket. Trump's going to remain in the White House for four more years while Democrats, along with their liberal media and Big Tech puppets (who have become accessories to treason, sedition, insurrection and other crimes after the fact by covering for their puppetmasters via illegal censorship of incriminating info and silencing of anyone who posts said info on social media), are looking at legal trouble so severe, there's no way they're going to dig, spin or lie their way out of it. The Democrats and their minions are running scared and becoming desperate because the truth is out and they know it. Northwest (talk) 02:37, 9 November 2020 (EST)

Benford's law

This book looked at seven U.S. elections held in 2006 and 2008 and found that the Republican candidate's vote followed Benford's law in every case. But the vote for the Democrat violated Benford in six of the seven elections. First digit Benford is just a smell test. It needs to be confirmed by something else. The 2009 Iranian election was exposed as a fraud using a second digit Benford test. When someone is making up fraudulent numbers, they tend to avoid repeated digits and put a low value as the final digit. Those tests were used detect fraud in the 2003 Nigerian election. PeterKa (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2020 (EST)

Walter Mebane, the guy who researched the Iranian election, has written on 2020. See Talk:Benford's_Law#Mebane's_response. PeterKa (talk) 20:16, 9 November 2020 (EST)
Melbane's 2nd digit test is also cited here. [20] RobSFree Kyle! 15:35, 10 November 2020 (EST)

The problem

The problem is in voting machines. Federal law requires records of federal elections be kept for 22 months. When a paper ballot is inserted into a tabulator, the tabulator scans the paper ballot and takes a picture. This is called a ballot image, which becomes the official ballot. Many Democrat states and jurisdictions destroy the paper ballot afterword. In one state, Massachusetts, they destroy the ballot image immediately afterward, as well.

In states and jurisdictions with touch screens, the ballot image is the only official record. All these ballot images from tabulators and touch screens are stored on microchip.

Electronic voting systems are used for the convenience of the vote counters, not the voters. Paper ballots are the only (less) foolproof method.

In Michigan, for example, sworn affidavits claim paper ballots were run through tabulators several times; so the paper ballots do not even have a barcode to nullify the ballot once its been counted. Even grocery stores can detect with the barcode whether an item has been paid for or not. This is level of pre-planned, coordinated Democrat corruption, preying on the ignorance of the American people.

Should we ever be able to get our democracy back, these issues must be addressed nationwide. RobSFree Kyle! 14:24, 14 November 2020 (EST)

Did Biden violate the Logan Act?

Biden is already accepting phone calls from foriegn leaders, according to Ben Rhodes. What happened to the Logan Act, Joe? Michael Flynn wants to know.[21] PeterKa (talk) 01:00, 10 November 2020 (EST)

No, he didn't. Once they get a COVID vaccine, they need to find an antipsychotic strong enough to fix your head; clearly even the strongest ones today have no effect. YourDearLeaderLost (talk) 13:36, 10 November 2020 (EST)
We've all seen how this movie ends, especially how Biden is declared Ceasar. RobSFree Kyle! 12:07, 11 November 2020 (EST)
I guess not everyone knows about Flynn. The Logan Act of 1799 is probably unconstitutional. It was never intended to apply to a presidental transistion team member like Flynn. It's peculiar status as an old law that has never been tested in court makes it a popular subject of "what if" discussions at law school. This is probably how Biden knows about it. He suggested that the FBI accuse Flynn of violating it back in 2017. The Logan Act nonsense was eventually dropped, but not before Flynn was interviewed by the FBI. He is still in court for "lying to the FBI." (Never talk to the police!) How many of us say "I don't remember" as a device to avoid answering an inappropriate question? I want to see Mueller prosecuted over his "not in my purview" variation of this line. PeterKa (talk) 18:49, 11 November 2020 (EST)
Well, Ted Cruz got Andy McCabe to perjure himelf yesterday claiming the Logan Act was never discussed. RobSFree Kyle! 01:14, 12 November 2020 (EST)

China conducts mass arrests in Hong Kong

The national security law China passed in June is being implemented: "Wave of Arrests Sweep Hong Kong." Pro-democracy politicans and documentary makers are being targeted for things they said and did before the law was passed, back when political activity was legal. The opposition has resigned from the legislature in protest. It could all be coming to America, if AOC gets her way: "AOC Wants an ‘Enemies List’ of Trump Supporters." PeterKa (talk) 16:17, 11 November 2020 (EST)


The Revenge of Clarence Thomas -- Bush v. Gore and the Facts Underlying The Pennsylvania Court Cases. Remember, it was Joe Biden who smeared Clarance Thomas by extending the Anita Hill hearings, even when he knew she was a liar. And Thomas has lived with the smears these 29 years. RobSFree Kyle! 17:39, 11 November 2020 (EST)

New York's 11th district still not called

The race between Max Rose and Nicole Malliotakis still has not been called yet despite Malliotakis leading by 15.8 points with 85% of the vote reporting. [22][23] Malliotakis currently has 57.89% while Rose has 42.11%; this means that out of the total expected vote, Malliotakis has 49.2% (57.89% times 85%) and Rose has 35.79% (42.11% times 85%). In order for Rose to win re-election, he would have to get at least 94.67% ((50-35.79)/15) of the vote in the remaining 15% of the expected vote, which would be a statistical impossibility with the exception of Democrat election fraud. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 18:07, 11 November 2020 (EST)

Vietnam needs you, Mr. Trump

The only country that loves Trump as much as Vietnam is Israel. No country hates China more. Every Vietnamese grows up learning about the Trung sisters, who rode elephants into battle against the Chinese. There is no chance that Trump can stay in office by challenging the vote count. It's just a fundraising gimmick. It's time for him to move on and turn the politicking over to Vice President Mike Pence. Athens, the original democracy, tried to temper partisan politics with a procedure called ostracism. This procedure allowed Athenians to exile the leader of the losing party for ten years. Neither AOC, Elizabeth Warren, nor the mullahs in Iran will be able to extradict Trump from Vietnam. In fact, Vietnam doesn't even have extradition. The central region has fantastic beaches and real estate that can be developed into Trump hotels and golf courses. Who can forget the surfing scene in Apocalypse Now? See "Why Vietnam Loves Trump" and "Vietnam-US FTA not happening under Biden." PeterKa (talk) 07:46, 12 November 2020 (EST)

What happens if Trump sticks around in the U.S.? It won't be pretty. The Dems are terrified that he might run again in 2024. They will throw everything they have at him. The Manhatten DA will investigate The Trump Organization for fraud. Sexual allegations about Stormy Daniels, Gloria Allred, and the rest will go to court. He'll also be accused of obstructing the Mueller investigation. In short, every allegation that made headlines in the last four years, however baseless, will be back. Here is Redstate: "This Is How The Left Is Planning To Destroy Trump If He Leaves Office." PeterKa (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2020 (EST)
Trump is apparently ready to leave the White House now. But he expects to be back: "Trump Signals That He will Run in 2024 Should the Election Challenges Fail." He'll be 78 on election day 2024. PeterKa (talk) 00:31, 13 November 2020 (EST)
I don't think it'll really be necessary anyway, given the way the exposure of Democrat vote fraud and the resulting reversals against it are going. Trump trolling the Democrats and their liberal media cheerleaders with that announcement just adds to the apopolexy and desperation they're going through as they watch their illegal vote fraud scheme unravel right before their eyes. Northwest (talk) 04:47, 13 November 2020 (EST)

Is the election really over?

They say it isn't over till the fat lady sings. Here, it isn't over until the Cath Lady (Justice Barrett) has her say, along with the rest of the Supreme Court. The AP claims the race is over at 290 to 217. But Biden is really at 259 at the most, without AZ and PA. This election is probably going to be settled in Pennsylvania. I believe Justice Alito ordered PA to segregate late arriving ballots, which augurs well for a future decision invalidating them.

President Trump is also at 232 at the least, with North Carolina already his. Georgia is another red state where he had a sizable lead before the tampering began. When his victory there is recognized, that will bring him to 248. Arizona where lawsuits are pending ties him with Biden at 259. And Pennsylvania will be the decider with President Trump winning at least 279-259 once the Supreme Court has its say in the state. There is precedent like in 2000, where the Supreme Court awarded Florida to Bush.

At last check, at the EveryLegalVote site,[24] President Trump is currently up 232-214. With the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling in favor of Trump yesterday, that's only going to further increase Trump's EC and popular vote numbers while decreasing both for Biden. Northwest (talk) 04:47, 13 November 2020 (EST)

Obama's second memoir

In Dreams from My Father, Obama's targets included the white grandmother who brought him up and his white girlfriend. (Both of them were racists, of course.) A second memoir is now headed our way. Here is the Daily Mail: "Nicolas Sarkozy was like a 'bantam cock,' Lindsey Graham 'crosses everyone to save his own skin,' Vladimir Putin is 'physically unimpressive' and power-hungry Mitch McConnell is 'shamelessness': Obama's memoir delivers his verdicts." Oh, just rip off Putin's shirt already and show us how physically unimpressive he is. Oh wait...

A Promised Land, scheduled for release Tuesday, is so nasty that it could have written by Sydney Blumenthal, who wrote regular political updates for Hillary. Looking back on his years in politics, Obama has one great regret. No, it's not that he didn't put friends, family, or love first. It's that he didn't call out Republicans as racist boobs often enough. This is from the book itself: “Through Palin, it seemed as if the dark spirits that had long been lurking on the edges of the modern Republican Party — xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, paranoid conspiracy theories, an antipathy toward brown and Black folks — were finding their way to center stage.” To Obama, one conservative looks pretty much like another. I doubt Palin was really "living rent free in Obama mind," as she put it. Both McCain and Romney, Obama's actual election opponents, are hard to accuse of racism since they later became anti-Trumpers. Like Dreams, Land needs a racist villian. So Obama focuses on Palin.

This passage in the New York Times` review caught my eye: "Is it a clever metaphorical take on gender role reversal that he frequently describes the physical looks of men and not of women? We are told of the handsomeness of men like Charlie Crist and Rahm Emanuel, but not the beauty of women, except for one or two instances, as in the case of Sonia Gandhi." Ha, ha, and more ha! The man is clearly bisexual. He is more attracted to his bodyman, Reggie Love, than he is to his wife. Sheila Jager, the white live-in girlfriend Obama rejected as politically inconvenient, is a suspiciously manly looking gal. Jager says she turned down two Obama marriage proposals. That puts Obama's accusations against her into prespective.

I doubt Jager could ever have competed with an evening with Rahm Emanuel at Chicago's Man Country bathhouse. That's really more Obama's style. Anyone who has studied Elagabalus (a tranny ahead of his time) or the other the pagan emperors has seen it all before. The NYT is exalting perversion as a woke sexual ethic. After the AIDS epidemic, the politically correct were expected to commit sodomy to show how gay-friendly they were. Now we can no longer appreciate beautiful women. PeterKa (talk) 19:49, 14 November 2020 (EST)

Who can imagine that the 768-page monstrosity that is Land was written by the same person who gave us Dreams? It almost certainly wasn't as Bill Ayers wasn't available for ghostwriting this time around. PeterKa (talk) 01:39, 26 November 2020 (EST)

WestExec, America's shadow cabinet

For most of the campaign, the Dems agreed Obama was just too right wing for today's Democratic Party. Vice President elect Harris certainly thought so. She expected to push the hair-sniffing dinosaur out of the way after the election, create a Harris-Biden administration, pack the courts, and usher in one-party rule on the model of Venezuela. Lately, the Obama wing of the party is striking back. Biden has appointed Ron Klain, Biden's old chief of staff from his days as vice president, to be the White House chief of staff. Anthony Blinken, deputy U.S. secretary of state under Obama, is being promote to secretary of state. These people are consultants for a company called WestExec, Obama's cabinet in waiting. It functions somewhat like a shadow cabinet in a parliamentary system, but membership is more lucrative. The group takes money from foreigners and launders it into salaries for its consultants. They get the money without ever registering as foriegn agents or lobbyists. It is also clever way to to get around Biden's "no lobbying in the last year" rule.

When Michael Flynn acted as a lobbyist for Turkey, that was reason enough for an FBI investigation. It's too bad that they didn't set up a pass through like this for him. See "The secretive consulting firm that’s become Biden’s Cabinet in waiting." PeterKa (talk) 01:39, 26 November 2020 (EST)

I don't know where you get your information from, but whatever made you think Biden is President-elect? RobSFree Kyle! 02:11, 28 November 2020 (EST)
But if you find any interesting persons, add them to the Biden junta; I guess it is a historical reality now. RobSFree Kyle! 02:16, 28 November 2020 (EST)

Covid-19, a pandemic of politics and hysteria

Florida's non-restrictive covid policy gets better results than states that follow Dr. Fauci's "science."

“The total decrease in deaths by other causes almost exactly equals the increase in deaths by COVID-19.” That's the conclusion of a recent John Hopkins study. In 2020, there was an unusually small number of deaths due to heart disease, pneumonia, and the other non-covid causes. If we assume that these diseases were responsible for their normal percentage of deaths, we must conclude that covid wasn't a major killer at all. In other words, the pandemic was all about reclassifying deaths from other causes as covid-19 deaths. John Hopkins retracted the study here. The retraction gives reasons that sound suspiciously political rather than scientific. See "Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has 'Relatively No Effect on Deaths' in U.S. Deleted After Publication."

There were certainly excess deaths this year compared to last year. But these could be due to a flu outbreak, aging baby boomers, or something else. Even if you assume that all the excess deaths were due to covid, the numbers from the CDC are still nonsense. See "Study: 35 percent of excess deaths in pandemic's early months tied to causes other than COVID-19." PeterKa (talk) 02:19, 28 November 2020 (EST)

Sweden surrenders to covid hysteria

For a long time, I assumed that covid hysteria was a malicious campaign tactic by the Democrats. Surely, the lockdowns would end after the election. But if anything the problem seems to have gotten worse. If the results of Sweden's take-it-easy approach are any indication, there is no basis to think that lockdowns, social distancing, and the rest has any effect on the rate of infection or death. An island of sanity in a world gone mad, Sweden's covid death rate stands at 680 per million, No. 22 internationally. In contrast, the U.S. death rate is 840 per million, No. 11 internationally. See Statistica.

The U.S. lockdowns sparked anti-police riots, which is surely worse than anything that unrestrained covid did to Sweden. The fact of the matter is that we humans do not control the world. That cloth mask does nothing except make you feel superior! Who is going to wear a surgical mask all day? Sadly, Sweden's days as a voice of reason on this issue may be over. Here is the Wall Street Journal: "Long a Holdout From Covid-19 Restrictions, Sweden Ends Its Pandemic Experiment." PeterKa (talk) 20:24, 6 December 2020 (EST)

Something hinky going on...

Over the past couple of days, there have been three occasions when I have not been able to edit here due to being unintentionally proxy-blocked (or more specifically, my IP) as the result of IP-hopping trolls getting blocked for creating accounts to get into mischief (one of those trolls was the latest sockpuppet of the Juvenile Delinquent, while the other was a spammer who created his account solely to advertise his spam site). Both accounts were blocked by Karajou, but in doing so, also range-blocked their IPs, resulting in me accidentally getting caught in the crossfire thanks to those troublemaking troll accounts. A screenshot, provided by User:United States, of what happened (which has also resulted in other editors here getting proxy-blocked), is here:

Can something be done to stop this from happening in the future (as it gets frustrating for me when I try to edit an article here, only to find out that I can't because of the range-block due to said troublemakers)? Northwest (talk) 17:37, 2 December 2020 (EST)

I've also been getting caught in this unfortunate web. Progressingamerica (talk) 01:19, 3 December 2020 (EST)
I had the same problem. The IP address shown is the standard one for all computers and has nothing to do with your provider. Quidam65 (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2020 (EST)
The issue is being worked on. --DavidB4 (TALK) 03:05, 3 December 2020 (EST)

Body Language Ghost

A lot of people think it's a bunch of hookum, but Body Language Ghost has done on her of her best videos ever. [25] RobSFree Kyle! 03:11, 8 December 2020 (EST)

Texas suit

In the Texas suit, they don't really even have to prove that fraud occurred or that the fraud was enough to turn the election (although the suit does that very well), all they need to do is present the written instructions from Boockvar, Jocelyn Benson, the Wisconsin Election Commission, and Raffensperger to prove our 14th Amendment equal rights were violated and a fraudulent election was held.

It is unbelievable how stupid Democrats are. RobSFree Kyle! 10:26, 9 December 2020 (EST)

Thanks for the link on the main page to my page on the lawsuit itself, hopefully it will be beneficial in the future no matter which way things go.Quidam65 (talk) 17:19, 11 December 2020 (EST)

Great point, and the ambiguity about what constitutes hearing a case has been trimmed. Thanks.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:13, 11 December 2020 (EST)

"In the News" section problem

Not sure if anyone else has this problem, but I can't see any of the updates in the "In the News" section until I log into my account.Isaiahbc (talk) 17:38, 9 December 2020 (EST)

Thanks for mentioning that. Can you see the updates now without logging into your account? About how many updates were you missing?--Andy Schlafly (talk) 17:44, 9 December 2020 (EST)

The last update I could see, until I logged in a minute ago, was "Breaking: Texas files lawsuit with SCOTUS." If I log in, I can see all of the news updates, but once I sign out I usually can't see any new ones. I'll let you know if I keep having the same problem.Isaiahbc (talk) 17:48, 9 December 2020 (EST)

This appears to be a caching issue which might be a function of which browser you use.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 18:03, 9 December 2020 (EST)

I've tried viewing in a number of different browsers and "Breaking: Texas files lawsuit with SCOTUS" is still the last news update that shows when I'm not logged in.--Isaiahbc (talk) 19:18, 9 December 2020 (EST)

FBI investigates Hunter

Christopher Wray's FBI received Hunter's laptop back in December 2019. But we didn't hear it about until late October 2020. CNN and the liberal media never covered it at all. Today, CNN celebrates the FBI's investigation of Hunter for tax fraud as "a return of normality." Sounds to me like the Harris faction is making a play to dump the Bidens. The election was only a month ago and already the Dems are plotting to overturn it. What could be more normal?

Tax cases are usually brought by the Tax Division of the Department of Justice. This one was brought by the U.S. attorney for Delaware. So it's definitely not your run-of-the-mill tax case. See "My Prediction: If Joe Biden Is Sworn in, the Investigation of Hunter Biden Will Lead to Joe's Resignation." Bye bye, Joe. PeterKa (talk) 01:22, 11 December 2020 (EST)

Tax matters are handled within the Treasury Department. It was Treasury's ATF that put Al Capone away, and nowadays you have FinCEN. The IRS has its own criminal division. RobSFree Kyle! 03:12, 11 December 2020 (EST)
When I wrote the post above, I assumed that FBI Director Wray was concealing the investigation. But it turns out that it was Barr: "WSJ: Barr Kept Quiet About 2 Hunter Biden Probes for Months." According to the Wall Street Journal, he wanted to "avoid their public disclosure during the election campaign." In 2016, Comey made politically sensitive announcements all through the campaign. Is Barr just too good to win? Letting the voters know the facts is not the dirty part of the attorney general's job. It's what allows them to caste judgement. PeterKa (talk) 00:21, 12 December 2020 (EST)
Trump should have never hired Bill Barr. If you want to hire a tough guy with a steely resolve to promote a right-wing populist agenda, you don't hire a fat guy who served in the G.W. Bush administration.Conservative (talk) 19:41, 16 December 2020 (EST)

America is Doomed

You know the Georgia runoffs are going to have cheating just like the other election. It's inevitable that the 2nd Amendment will die [26] Shobson20 (talk) 00:42, 15 December 2020 (EST)

Not if President Trump has anything to say about it, especially if he invokes both EO 13848 and the Insurrection Act of 1807. No matter what they and their liberal media cheerleaders claim otherwise, the Democrats are not going to succeed in stealing the election. Northwest (talk) 02:54, 15 December 2020 (EST)
Interesting article: This Friday (December 18th) Will Be One Of The Most Important Days Of This Country’s History. RobSFree Kyle! 17:26, 15 December 2020 (EST)
When the assets get seized, Google and Facebook should be first on the list. RobSFree Kyle! 17:26, 15 December 2020 (EST)
Gitmo's full; rumor is Greenland and the Azores is where all the conspirators and traitors will be taken. RobSFree Kyle! 17:28, 15 December 2020 (EST)
U.S. President Grover Cleveland served 2 nonconsecutive terms. Trump can run again in 2024, if he loses in 2020.
Iceland has had a democracy since about 930 A.D. with a break of 45 years. I doubt that democracy is going to end in the USA if Trump loses. But if it does, I will emigrate! I don't want to live under an oppressive, bizarre SJW/leftist regime!Conservative (talk) 18:26, 16 December 2020 (EST)
The Democrats are keen to engineer a wave of mass immigration and end democracy that way. The first policy proposal Biden made after the election was to open the borders. It seems that he also wants to reimpose Obama-era regulations, restart the riots, maintain the lockdowns, eliminate small business, and basically do everything he can to destroy the economy. So it might not be so easy to recruit immigrants. Besides, why make foreigners come all the way to America when all we really care about is their votes? Surely, the next logical step is to allow non-citizens to vote by mail from overseas.
With any luck, we can win the Georgia runoffs, maintain control of the courts, and survive until the midterms. Republican control of the senate would allow the Durham investigation to continue. Mueller-in-reverse would be a festival of schadenfreude. PeterKa (talk) 20:03, 16 December 2020 (EST)
Ireland has the third highest GNP per capita in the world.[27] It also has a fertility rate of 1.81 births per woman and its heading downward[28] (2.1 is replacement level). Worst case scenario, I will perhaps emigrate to Ireland. With their national birthrate below zero, they will likely be open to immigration.Conservative (talk) 08:35, 17 December 2020 (EST)

Maybe I will emigrate to Northern Ireland since the incomes of people are similar to people in the Republic of Ireland.[29] An the icing on the cake is that Northern Ireland is Protestant!Conservative (talk) 08:40, 17 December 2020 (EST)

Michigan forensics report

What the report shows is that the machines kicked out 68% of the ballots in "error", which then automatically go to an administrator for adjudication. IOWs, the vote switching was done by election officials and not electronically by the machines. The machines were programmed to kick out an extraordinarily high rate of errors for human intervention. RobSFree Kyle! 02:40, 16 December 2020 (EST)

"Dr." Jill Biden

The standard practice is that only medical doctors get addressed as "Dr.," at least if the context is non-academic and something outside their specialty. Jill Biden has an Ed.D, not a MD or even a Ph.D. Yet she's been getting snooty about her "Dr" status recently. Here is the second sentence of her thesis: “The needs of the student population are often undeserved, resulting in a student drop-out rate of almost one third.”

Here is another dozy from the thesis: “Three quarters of the class will be Caucasian; one quarter of the class will be African American; one seat will hold a Latino; and the remaining seats will be filled with students of Asian descent or non-resident aliens.” Wasn't it nice when we had a first lady who could count to four?[30] PeterKa (talk) 06:55, 16 December 2020 (EST)

This article blows away Jill's "unbelievably awful" thesis point by point. As the article points out, the New York Times routinely refers to Ben Carson, who has an actual MD, as "Mr." The media made a point of not calling Sebastian Gorka "Dr," even though he has a Ph.D in political science and outranks Jill academically. "Gorka gets his title on Fox News and in the Daily Caller, Conservative Review and Gateway Pundit. But mainstream news outlets generally refuse to attribute the "Dr." prefix to anyone who is not a medical doctor," according to a Washington Post article from 2017. PeterKa (talk) 23:14, 17 December 2020 (EST)

Don’t-seem right; I’ve been strung-out here, all night...
-I’ve-been-wait ing for the taste, you-said you’d bring...
Bis-cayne Bay, where, the Cu, ban-children sleep-all day,...
-I-went-search ing for the song you used to sing...
-To me.
Katy lies—you can eyes!...
I mag ine my sur-prise...when-I-saw you...

Are you with me, Doctor Wu?
Are you really just a shadow, of the man that I once knew?

Are you crazy?
Are you high?
Are-you-just-an or din ary guy?
Have you done all you can do?

Are you with me, Doctor? [drum crash]
Can you hear me, Doctor? [drum crash]

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 05:36, 23 December 2020 (EST)

I've seen Who Doctor Who run a number of times, [31] a legend in Nebraska horseracing. RobSFree Kyle! 18:19, 23 December 2020 (EST)

Israel and COVID Vaccine: questionable source

I have read the article linked on the Main Page. I am starting seriously question whether we should continue to cite from Conservative News and Views. The author in the article on Israel states " And from the average Israeli’s perspective, their families “survived” the so-called “Holocaust”, including grotesque “medical experiments” at the hands of Josef Mengele — along with having their gold teeth stolen from them by the Nazi dentists to fund Hezbollah — so they aren’t about to die in a real Holocaust with these deadly vaccines." . Putting survived and holocaust in quotes like that and then referring to vaccination as "a real Holocaust" is, frankly, more than engaging in holocaust denial. This is something we should not stand for. As an aside - Hezbollah was founded in 1985, so his reference to it and revenue from stolen Jewish property is nonsensical. --IScott (talk) 15:52, 19 December 2020 (EST)

Texas V Pennsylvania et al News

MPR News story "President Trump files to reverse Texas v. Pennsylvania ruling" cites a source which does not actually back up that claim... The article actually states that Trump is "asking the U.S. Supreme Court to reverse some Pennsylvania Supreme Court decisions", this has NOTHING to do with the Texas v. Pennsylvania et al case. --IScott (talk) 16:25, 20 December 2020 (EST)

Footnote l, page 3 of the filing: "See State of Tex. v. Commonwealth of Pa., et. al, No. 22O155 (S.Ct., filed Dec. 8, 2020), in which the State of Texas identified numerous provisions of state law that were altered or ignored in four key states—the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and the States of Georgia, Michigan, and Wisconsin. This Court denied Texas’s Motion for Leave to File an Original Action for lack of standing. Id. (Dec. 11, 2020). The standing of Petitioner is not in question in this case." [32] RobSFree Kyle! 16:57, 20 December 2020 (EST)
Let's not assume readers are a bunch of idiots as the MSM does. RobSFree Kyle! 18:06, 23 December 2020 (EST)

More Democrat pork

Ah, more Washington, D.C. "bipartisanship", which turns out to be unsurprising massive spending. Only six Republican senators voted against the "stimulus" bill that's full of nonsense irrelevant to the coronavirus pandemic. [33] Unfortunately Ron Johnson had to block the Hawley/Sanders bill twice [34], leading to this one being pushed forward instead... —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 12:39, 22 December 2020 (EST)

Well, we have an immediate problem; Rand Paul opposes the giveaway of free money, Trump wants to up the ante to $2000 per individual, and Paul is need to give an electoral count objection on January 6. RobSFree Kyle! 18:08, 23 December 2020 (EST)
Even if Trump enacts $2,000 stimulus checks despite Paul's objections, would that really mean that the latter possibly won't join the objection on January 6? He's very principled, after all. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 18:47, 23 December 2020 (EST)
He's in it to win it, I think. But Trump will owe him bigtime afterward. RobSFree Kyle! 19:59, 23 December 2020 (EST)

A real crisis

Perhaps some of you remember the early days of the Clinton Administration when Rush Limbaugh had his TV show. Rush noticed and explained that Bill Clinton and Al Gore (with Hillary Clinton behind the scenes) would advance liberal economic policy solutions to the general public (meaning big government, no competition, nebulous accountability) according to a step-by-step procedure. The procedure was as cynical as the elitist government set-up that was sought. Okay, it was a little less cynical than the elitist government set-up that was sought. I remember one of the first steps was "trial balloons", where the Administration would leak to the media various ways they might enact the programs. I think also it was an early form of "trolling" where they'd get a rise out of politically-interested parties to see if they had objections to approaches or rationales they might use to achieve their goals.

Anyway, at a certain point Al Gore or another high official would hold a press conference and, in the course of the delivering the policy solution wrapped in the presentation, would *declare a crisis*. A "health-care crisis". A "housing crisis". A "deficit crisis". Rush would play a montage of Al Gore and these officials declaring these crises, one after the other, having a comical effect in the unlikely and politically convenient series of sudden dramatic interruptions in the national life all within a few months of each other and in the flush of America's winning the Cold War and the recent end of the early-nineties recession. Even the joblessness of the recovery was improving month to month. Unemployment had been slowly dropping since June 1992 and had reached 7.1% by the month after the inauguration. The declarations would appear as soundbites on the network news and the newspapers that day every few months as the memory of the previous "crisis" was receding and arrest the attention of the general public onto the policies and habituate them to think along the lines of there being an urgency in the situation addressed by the policy as well as the contents of that policy being the most thought-out (and close-at-hand, should you choose not to deliberate upon alternatives and/or presume the Administration would have chosen a moderate one just for political comity as to not exploit the "crisis" for political purposes) solution. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 11:29, 23 December 2020 (EST)

Wow. That last sentence we could use as a text book example of a "run-on sentence." RobSFree Kyle! 18:04, 23 December 2020 (EST)
That's classism and ableism; we can't all show the decorum and mental skill that you do. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 18:08, 23 December 2020 (EST)
I thought it was stream of consciousness. RobSFree Kyle! 18:09, 23 December 2020 (EST)

Belloc: the political theory of the French Revolution

The political theory upon which the Revolution proceeded has, especially in this country, suffered ridicule as local, as ephemeral, and as fallacious. It is universal, it is eternal, and it is true.

It may be briefly stated thus: that a political community pretending to sovereignty, that is, pretending to a moral right of defending its existence against all other communities, derives the civil and temporal authority of its laws not from its actual rulers, nor even from its magistracy, but from itself.

But the community cannot express authority unless it possesses corporate initiative; that is, unless the mass of its component units are able to combine for the purpose of a common expression, are conscious of a common will, and have something in common which makes the whole sovereign indeed.

It may be that this power of corporate initiative and of corresponding corporate expression is forbidden to men. In that case no such thing as a sovereign community can be said to exist. In that case “patriotism,” “public opinion,” “the genius of a people,” are terms without meaning. But the human race in all times and in all places has agreed that such terms have meaning, and the conception that a community can so live, order and be itself, is a human conception as consonant to the nature of man as is his sense of right and wrong; it is much more intimately a part of that nature than are the common accidents determining human life, such as nourishment, generation or repose: nay, more intimate a part of it than anything which attaches to the body.

This theory of political morals, though subject to a limitless degradation in practice, underlies the argument of every man who pretends to regard the conduct of the State as a business affecting the conscience of citizens. Upon it relies every protest against tyranny and every denunciation of foreign aggression.

He that is most enamoured of some set machinery for the government of men, and who regards the sacramental function of an hereditary monarch (as in Russia), the organic character of a native oligarchy (as in England), the mechanical arrangement of election by majorities, or even in a crisis the intense conviction and therefore the intense activity and conclusive power of great crowds as salutary to the State, will invariably, if any one of these engines fail him in the achievement of what he desires for his country, fall back upon the doctrine of an ultimately sovereign community. He will complain that though an election has defeated his ideal, yet true national tradition and true national sentiment were upon his side. If he defends the action of a native oligarchy against the leaders of the populace, he does so by an explanation (more or less explicit) that the oligarchy is more truly national, that is[,] more truly communal, than the engineered expression of opinion of which the demagogues (as he will call them) have been the mouthpieces. Even in blaming men for criticising or restraining an hereditary monarch the adherent of that monarch will blame them upon the ground that their action is anti-national, that is anti-communal; and, in a word, no man pretending to sanity can challenge in matters temporal and civil the ultimate authority of whatever is felt to be (though with what difficulty is it not defined!) the general civic sense which builds up a State.

Those words “civil” and “temporal” must lead the reader to the next consideration; which is, that the last authority of all does not reside even in the community.

It must be admitted by all those who have considered their own nature and that of their fellow beings that the ultimate authority in any act is God. Or if the name of God sound unusual in an English publication to-day, then what now takes the place of it for many (an imperfect phrase), “the moral sense.”

Thus if there be cast together in some abandoned place a community of a few families so depraved or so necessitous that, against the teachings of their own consciences, and well knowing that what they are doing is what we call wrong, yet they will unanimously agree to do it, then that agreement of theirs, though certainly no temporal or civil authority can be quoted against it, is yet unjustifiable. Another authority lies behind. Still more evidently would this be true if, of say, twelve, seven decided (knowing the thing to be wrong) that the wrong thing should be done, five stood out for the right—and yet the majority possessed by the seven should be determined a sufficient authority for the wrongful command.

But it is to be noted that this axiom only applies where the authority of the moral law (God, as the author of this book, with due deference to his readers, would prefer to say) is recognised and yet flouted. If those twelve families do sincerely believe such and such a general action to be right, then not only is their authority when they carry it into practice a civil and a temporal authority; it is an authority absolute in all respects; and further, if, upon a division of opinion among them not perhaps a bare majority, nay, perhaps not a majority at all, but at any rate a determinant current of opinion—determinant in intensity and in weight, that is, as well as in numbers—declares an action to be right, then that determinant weight of opinion gives to its resolve a political authority not only civil and temporal but absolute. Beyond it and above it there is no appeal.

In other words, men may justly condemn, and justly have in a thousand circumstances condemned, the theory that a mere decision on the major part of the community was necessarily right in morals. It is, for that matter, self-evident that if one community decides in one fashion, another, also sovereign, in the opposite fashion, both cannot be right. Reasoning men have also protested, and justly, against the conception that what a majority in numbers, or even (what is more compelling still) a unanimity of decision in a community may order, may not only be wrong but may be something which that community has no authority to order since, though it possesses a civil and temporal authority, it acts against that ultimate authority which is its own consciousness of right. Men may and do justly protest against the doctrine that a community is incapable of doing deliberate evil; it is as capable of such an action as is an individual. But men nowhere do or can deny that the community acting as it thinks right is ultimately sovereign: there is no alternative to so plain a truth.

Let us take it, then, as indubitable that where civil government is concerned, the community is supreme, if only from the argument that no organ within the community can prove its right to withstand the corporate will when once that corporate will shall find expression. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:59, 24 December 2020 (EST)

You may notice that these ideas are not derived from philosophical reflection as such but are, rather, common sense. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 14:07, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Sovereign community? 1 The whole Israelite community set out from Elim and came to the Desert of Sin, which is between Elim and Sinai, on the fifteenth day of the second month after they had come out of Egypt. 2 In the desert the whole community grumbled against Moses and Aaron. 3 The Israelites said to them, “If only we had died by the LORD’s hand in Egypt! There we sat around pots of meat and ate all the food we wanted, but you have brought us out into this desert to starve this entire assembly to death.” RobSFree Kyle! 14:29, 24 December 2020 (EST)
Yes, but Belloc mentioned the "genius of a people". That should be taken as "guiding spirit". VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 15:39, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Schumpeter's view

It is held, then, that there exists a Common Good, the obvious beacon light of policy, which is always simple to define and which every normal person can be made to see by means of rational argument. There is hence no excuse for not seeing it and in fact no explanation for the presence of people who do not see it except ignorance—which can be removed—stupidity and anti-social interest. Moreover, this common good implies definite answers to all questions so that every social fact and every measure taken or to be taken can unequivocally be classed as “good” or “bad.” All people having therefore to agree, in principle at least, there is also a Common Will of the people (=will of all reasonable individuals) that is exactly coterminous with the common good or interest or welfare or happiness. The only thing, barring stupidity and sinister interests, that can possibly bring in disagreement and account for the presence of an opposition is a difference of opinion as to the speed with which the goal, itself common to nearly all, is to be approached. Thus every member of the community, conscious of that goal, knowing his or her mind, discerning what is good and what is bad, takes part, actively and responsibly, in furthering the former and fighting the latter and all the members taken together control their public affairs.

It is true that the management of some of these affairs requires special aptitudes and techniques and will therefore have to be entrusted to specialists who have them. This does not affect the principle, however, because these specialists simply act in order to carry out the will of the people exactly as a doctor acts in order to carry out the will of the patient to get well. It is also true that in a community of any size, especially if it displays the phenomenon of division of labor, it would be highly inconvenient for every individual citizen to have to get into contact with all the other citizens on every issue in order to do his part in ruling or governing. It will be more convenient to reserve only the most important decisions for the individual citizens to pronounce upon—say by referendum—and to deal with the rest through a committee appointed by them—an assembly or parliament whose members will be elected by popular vote. This committee or body of delegates, as we have seen, will not represent the people in a legal sense but it will do so in a less technical one—it will voice, reflect or represent the will of the electorate. Again as a matter of convenience, this committee, being large, may resolve itself into smaller ones for the various departments of public affairs. Finally, among these smaller committees there will be a general-purpose committee, mainly for dealing with current administration, called cabinet or government, possibly with a general secretary or scapegoat at its head, a so-called prime minister.

As soon as we accept all the assumptions that are being made by this theory of the polity—or implied by it—democracy indeed acquires a perfectly unambiguous meaning and there is no problem in connection with it except how to bring it about. Moreover we need only forget a few logical qualms in order to be able to add that in this case the democratic arrangement would not only be the best of all conceivable ones, but that few people would care to consider any other. It is no less obvious however that these assumptions are so many statements of fact every one of which would have to be proved if we are to arrive at that conclusion. And it is much easier to disprove them.

There is, first, no such thing as a uniquely determined common good that all people could agree on or be made to agree on by the force of rational argument. This is due not primarily to the fact that some people may want things other than the common good but to the much more fundamental fact that to different individuals and groups the common good is bound to mean different things. This fact, hidden from the utilitarian by the narrowness of his outlook on the world of human valuations, will introduce rifts on questions of principle which cannot be reconciled by rational argument because ultimate values—our conceptions of what life and what society should be—are beyond the range of mere logic. They may be bridged by compromise in some cases but not in others. Americans who say, “We want this country to arm to its teeth and then to fight for what we conceive to be right all over the globe” and Americans who say, “We want this country to work out its own problems which is the only way it can serve humanity” are facing irreducible differences of ultimate values which compromise could only maim and degrade. RobSFree Kyle! 14:03, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Would you like me to reply? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 14:17, 24 December 2020 (EST)
Yes, please. RobSFree Kyle! 14:52, 24 December 2020 (EST)
I would answer that the common good belonging to humanity is based on its common human nature. But let me anticipate what Schumpeter might reply to this.

Adler on human nature

Part 1

It is now generally accepted that the species Homo sapiens is older than we once thought, having emerged within the hominid family perhaps as long ago as 35,000 to 50,000 years. It is also generally agreed that all human beings alive today, and all that have been alive since Homo sapiens first appeared on earth, are members of one and the same species.

Nevertheless, in the twentieth century, the essential sameness of all human beings, by virtue of their participation in the same specific nature, has been widely challenged. The challenge has come from cultural anthropologists, from sociologists, from other behavioral scientists, and even from historians.

That challenge, tantamount to a denial of human nature, is rooted in a profound mistake, but one that is not, in origin at least, a philosophical mistake. However, it should be added that philosophers have not been at pains to correct the error and that it has become for some philosophers--the existentialists--the root error in their thought. Merleau-Ponty, for example, has declared that "it is the nature of man not to have a nature."

I said a moment ago that the denial of human nature is a profound mistake--one with extremely serious consequences for philosophy, especially moral philosophy. To have some sense of this we need only look back to Chapter 5 on moral values. There we saw that the distinction between apparent and real goods, and that in turn...helped establish the truth of prescriptive judgments and laid the basis for our understanding of natural rights, human rights.

If moral philosophy is to have a sound factual basis, it is to be found in the facts about human nature and nowhere else. If that basis is denied us by a denial of human nature, the only other alternative lies in the extreme rationalism of Immanuel Kant, which proceeds without any consideration of the facts of human life and with no concern for the variety of cases to which moral prescriptions must be applied in a manner that is flexible rather than rigorous.

At this point readers may call for a pause and an explanation. What possibly can be meant by the denial of human nature? We are all human beings, are we not? It must be extremely rare, if it ever happened at all, that anyone would have some doubt whether a specimen being examined was human or not.

This being so, do not the criteria we employ to determine whether we are dealing with a human being imply some understanding on our part of the common traits belonging to all members of the human species? These common traits constitute the nature that is the same in all members of the species. That is what we mean by human nature, is it not?

A respect for human rights is based upon our differences of opinions and beliefs, not a conformity to a common will. RobSFree Kyle! 15:42, 24 December 2020 (EST)
Yes, but should we avoid seeing that the human rights themselves are based on humanity's common human nature, a commonality that reconciles opposite opinions, beliefs, inclinations and other aspects of human intentions that might conflict, into one community?—a common nature the defining characteristics of which Adler, having stated the case for what appears to be an absence of commonality in human nature, both within the self-governing community and throughout the world (in the section below), elucidates his reply, as an antithesis, and by means of its definition solves the dilemma. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 16:57, 24 December 2020 (EST)
Would you like to hear the antithesis Adler presents? Or could I tell you what I think what Belloc's statement of principles pertains to? Or can you figure it out? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:44, 24 December 2020 (EST)
Stick with Belloc for awhile. it's quite a leap from political theory to anthropolgy. And Belloc's Catholic background seems interesting. RobSFree Kyle! 01:23, 25 December 2020 (EST)
I'm having back spasms with my sore lower back from having done all that frenetic typing, episodes which I'm having for the very first time, and the sudden contortions they put me in, at the risk of being quite offensive, I find...comical, a feeling forced in part by the great pleasure of the relief I feel when they're through. I'm unable to help myself. Even though, of course, when I get a lot older and have a similar condition, I'm going to suddenly remember the sentiment I allowed myself to entertain and have to pay and pay and pay.... VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:59, 25 December 2020 (EST)

Part 2

Was wiped, but is described above.

Belloc, 2: How disregarding the ordering of authority in the community presented through common sense notions such as Belloc's finally builds to crisis levels of international scale

This is the night where President Trump is supposed to cross the Delaware River and rout his enemies. But we have to work from the assumption that he will be too hard-pressed to act to make use of such symbolism, symbolism which many of his enemies know about anyway.

If you look at Belloc's plain commonsense definition in the light of recent political events carefully, today's political situation has a grimness belied by the hopeful efforts of Republicans to once again pressure the Democrats to do the right thing, not having been seen in living memory. Repeating from Belloc's short recapitulation:

[A] political community pretending to sovereignty, that is, pretending to a moral right of defending its existence against all other communities, derives the civil and temporal authority of its laws not from its actual rulers, nor even from its magistracy, but from itself.
But the community cannot express authority unless it possesses corporate initiative; that is, unless the mass of its component units are able to combine for the purpose of a common expression, are conscious of a common will, and have something in common which makes the whole sovereign indeed.
It may be that this power of corporate initiative and of corresponding corporate expression is forbidden to men. In that case no such thing as a sovereign community can be said to exist. In that case “patriotism,” “public opinion,” “the genius of a people,” are terms without meaning. But the human race in all times and in all places has agreed that such terms have meaning...

1. Informed public opinion and its protection necessary for corporate initiative of national community

I think many agree that how the public, especially in a democratic nation, should best be educated is a very difficult question indeed. Yet I think just as many would agree the nation cannot persist with large gaps in basic political knowledge.

As you may know, when President Trump held his initial press conference of the ones he had announced for the purpose of presenting evidence contesting the election, ten minutes before it began, the Associated Press, among with many other news organizations, each with a large share of the whole news audience, "called" the election for Biden. Many of these large organizations have not mentioned President Trump's dispute of the election results to this very day and as the result of other media manipulations repeated by them ad nauseum as reported in conservative publications and lawsuits dismissed for lack of standing but never judged on the merits, President Trump was able to make the claim half of those who voted for Biden weren't even aware the election was being disputed despite the continuous roiling conversation about it in much of the country.

I'd like to narrow in not at the means by which this occurred, but rather at the intention and the effect.

The timing was so politically convenient that it could not have been anything but deliberate, if not outright contemptuous for the purpose of being demoralizing. Yet, as an isolated incident, it may not rise to anything more than a political dirty trick. But the offense and shock upon considering the incident is likely to be greatly compounded when what ensued shows it may very well have been meant to be perceived as only that (an isolated incident) and nothing more to President Trumps' supporters in addition to isolating Biden's voters from the information, in order to set up a "beachhead" to separate Biden's voters from knowledge of President Trump's election dispute.

The beachhead may have worked quietly but grown rapidly to suppress initial (and to many, also final) interest in the story of President Trump's challenges during its first crucial hours, when it might have broken through and dampened the misperception of victory, and then worked to employ subsequent efforts to maintain the suppression. Hired political operatives and great similarities of political themes harped upon were informally reported around this time, as well as the perception that Biden supporters who later did find out about the story believed that celebrating the supposed outcome as surprising and definitive would forestall or later gloss over ballot investigations threating to overturn the result in a widespread contagion of techniques from original operatives to persons sharing their political bents.

The suppression couldn't have been maintained without deliberate ignorance of the evidence of election fraud presented by numerous parties, once again lacking standing but not disproven on merit, and by the disputation of loud, continuous, galling and infantile scoffing at President Trump on internet social media and elsewhere through harsh amplifications and variations on the theme of President Trump "not being a good sport" or declaring "there's not a shred of evidence" by the astonishingly great numbers of persons who apparently have the extraordinarily politically convenient trait of misinterpreting and forgetting the full growing set of evidence compiled each time during each news cycle.

While numerous political misinformation campaigns have been waged in the past, none have yet had the gaping difference in effect on election knowledge that Trump claimed, and all have been directed at office-holders or government organs of the American constitution as organs only being viewed as parts of government, not viewed as operating as organs giving life to the carrying out the intentions of the community by means of the arrangement of those organs as parts of government, the arrangement being specified in the constitution previously consented to by Americans, a respect for the organs of government as they were operating which had previously been left sacrosanct. I am specifically referring to the disputed 2000 election. Because this misinformation campaign was not an attack on American democratic institutions, but rather an attack directly upon the democratic character of the American government in a wild effort to execute a punishment, lacking the process of a trial, much less due process, on an American President.

1a. Illegal enforcement of illegal execution of punishment upon President Trump

President Trump refused to engage with Antifa's and Black Lives Matters' violent antics on a national level during the year, but the effects have lingered. Journalistic sources to witnesses of Supreme Court deliberations reported the vocal consternation of Court paralegals about the potential of riots while in the process of rendering decisions about President Trump's legal status as complaintant, riots also with the potential to be joined by Biden's voters too-suddenly made aware of President Trump's election disputes. This may be worse, but is no better, than a heckler's veto.

Precautions against the Wuhan virus have also been unreasonably extended and normalized with dubious scientific rationales as well, having the side effect of being politically convenient for numerous issues, one of which being reducing political initiative to gather and resolve on means of pressing forward political grievances with complex and cumbersome legal bases.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 07:31, 25 December 2020 (EST)

For Trump to be successful in overturning the electoral vote, he has to settle on one of two competing narratives: (1) foreign interference, and (2) unconstitutional actions by state election officials. In both cases, rigged voting machines play a subsidiary part. I think he has chosen no. 2, which is fraught with more landmines than no. 1 cause it includes members of his own party, as well as sitting members of both Houses in his own party who likewise have been beneficiaries of this corruption. And this is not to say that no. 1 did not occur, either.
So the issue, and ultimate outcome, is much larger than the fate of either Biden or Trump's careers. And the issue does not end with whatever the choice is on January 6.
Biden, in contrast to Trump, is even in a more precarious position in his own party than Trump is. He is totally without any support. The Obama and Kabala factions are already plotting his takedown and removal. If Biden were to win, the Sanders/Obama/Warren/Harris faction will become the biggest Biden-China collusion conspiracy theorists instantaneously, along with their MSM allies.
Biden's job, and Biden's role, as of this moment, is essentially over. But while the GOP will be experiencing a purging in coming months and years, the Dems subterfuge is on display for the whole world to see. I don't see a commonality of interests among voters and loylists of these two parties going forward. RobSFree Kyle! 02:00, 26 December 2020 (EST)
Crisis delayed? When I saw the TV presentation linked to on MPR, I had the idea Trump was leaving things open-ended as to the magnitude of what the national situation might be. But on Christmas Eve, his confrontation of McConnell seemed really rather "conventionally-scaled" to me, and set in that "determination", to speak in technicalese. And since then I've been reminded of the adage "barking dogs don't bite". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 19:31, 26 December 2020 (EST)
Why did President Trump say "making 5G almost impossible" was a "gift to China" on early Saturday moning, but Secretary of State Pompeo say "We've turned the tide on the Chinese Communist Party’s 5G master plan. The U.S. proudly joins our EU, @3seaseu, @NATO, and @OECD partners and allies in the Clean Network to counter CCP malign influence" on Wednesday afternoon before Christmas? VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 00:28, 27 December 2020 (EST)
Probably because CCP influenced MSM sources said that? PJMedia reports: "Trump also claimed that an amendment in the bill “would slow down the rollout of nationwide 5G, especially in rural areas.” The NDAA seems to involve two 5G-related provisions: a measure to “support the development of a 5G wireless network by establishing the Public Wireless Supply Chain Innovation Fund and the Multilateral Telecommunications Security Fund,” and a measure to reduce foreign influence in 5G — combatting the influence of Chinese technology. [35] RobSFree Kyle! 03:01, 27 December 2020 (EST)
IOWs, killing domestic innovators is a gift to China. RobSFree Kyle! 03:04, 27 December 2020 (EST)

Tulsi Gabbard as VP?

I do not understand, how would liberal Democrat Tulsi Gabbard have made a stronger VP than Mike Pence? Mr. Pence is probably one of the most God-fearing Vice Presidents that we have ever had.Isaiahbc (talk) 15:59, 23 December 2020 (EST)

That's certainly an odd item. Pence did very well in the debate with Harris. I don't know why a Republican would want to replace him. I don't think there is any mechanism to do it, anyway. When the worst thing the liberal media can say about Pence is that he is a Christian, what's not to like? PeterKa (talk) 04:02, 24 December 2020 (EST)


Ethnic Irish conservatives: "Sure, Biden isn't the perfect candidate, but let's not blow our Kennedy do-over!"

Me: <facepalm>.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 19:37, 23 December 2020 (EST)


Back in late May this year around the time of the Republican primary for the House race in New Mexico's 2nd district, a liberal super PAC meddled by boosting Yvette Herrell over Claire Chase, thinking the former would be a weaker candidate against Xochitl Torres Small. [36] Herrell won the Republican primary and proceeded to defeat Torres Small in the general election this time around in a rematch of the 2018 Midterms. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 23:24, 23 December 2020 (EST)

Managerial class

As every schoolchild knows, the Chinese managerial class have had ideas on how to run things for centuries! Here is an ancient oracle addressing just that:

Fellowship with men in the open.
It furthers one to cross the great water.
The perserverance of the superior man furthers.

Richard Wilhelm comments from Medieval Chinese philosophers:

True fellowship among men must be based upon a concern that is universal. It is not the private interests of the individual that create lasting fellowship among men, but rather the goals of humanity. That is why it is said that fellowship with men in the open succeeds. If unity of this kind prevails, even difficult and dangerous tasks, such as crossing the great water, can be accomplished. But in order to bring about this sort of fellowship, a persevering and enlightened leader is needed—a man with clear, convincing, and inspiring aims and the strength to carry them out.

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 09:35, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Trevor Louden says the Chinese managerial class consists of 800 mafia families. [37] RobSFree Kyle! 15:12, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Speaking of which, where's Peter? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:48, 24 December 2020 (EST)

I'm in Bao Loc. I've been making Christmas videos. You'll be hungry after the second one. PeterKa (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2020 (EST)
You came to a conclusion I didn't expect. When I was younger I went to a science museum and heard them tell me there was a likelihood that yes, the early Christians quietly celebrated Christmas in the shadow of the Roman Empire's celebration of Saturnalia as a way to maintain their faith, but secretly in the face of persecution.
It's odd that you say "Saturnalia wasn't celebrated in the provinces". It would seem to me that many in the provincial Roman establishment would want to imitate Roman customs in hopes of advancement, though not in the provinces at large.
Likewise, I understand the Christian faith began very much as an urban phenomenon, whose location of practice may very well have coincided with these provincial careerist upstart officers.
But maybe I'm just inducing that "Roman provincial officers were ambitious and had their cities celebrate Saturnalia in response" to save the reputation of the science museum I liked in my own mind!
Where did you get all those pictures of the food serving arrangements? I'm full now, but they still looked pretty tasty. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:14, 25 December 2020 (EST)
I watched all those videos. Your explanation of things step by step together with the variety of characteristic pictures you chose had the effect of causing my attention and interest to build by steps and would expect the presentation in which it is contained to maintain the interest and attention of many others to a similar degree as well, and that they would share my gratitude in your having made them. Thank you. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 02:16, 25 December 2020 (EST)
Please write these comments on YouTube, as well as any other responses you have. It will boost the viewership algorithim if people are debating. I just started editing videos a few days ago.
I wrote answers to these points on YouTube. I don't how you would determine if Christmas was celebrated secretly. But there are several liturgical calendars from the zero-to-325 period, and they do not mention Christmas. The standard reference is Ante-Nicene Fathers, which is nine volumes long. So Christians were certainly writing stuff down at this time. PeterKa (talk) 08:59, 25 December 2020 (EST)
Maybe it's a later faith story, a faith story like the woman at the well who meets Jesus. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 20:34, 25 December 2020 (EST)
As far where the images come from, I do an image search. A lot of them are from Wikipedia or from personal Wordpress pages. PeterKa (talk) 05:16, 26 December 2020 (EST)

"Satan" a "popular article"? On Christmas Day?

I would think the celebration of the birth of our Lord and Savior would chase away the presence of Satan for a while! Or at least if not, not without explanation.

Rodney Dangerfield: "It's okay. Technically, Christmas may not have developed organically from the faith from its historical beginnings."

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 21:28, 25 December 2020 (EST)

You make a valid point (although I wonder if there is something inaccurate about the Dangerfield quote, which doesn't seem coherent). But Christmas is an attempt to drive out Satan at the darkest time of the year (above the Equator). Satan doesn't leave without a fight, and Christmas can be unexpectedly difficult at times for some.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 22:19, 25 December 2020 (EST)
Okay, that's a pretty good explanation. Thank you.
Dangerfield often repeated palliations that came across as reassuring by way of explanations that would suddenly not seem too reliable. "Ah, what can I tell you, though. The last time my wife drove the car, she cracked it up, threw it into a tree...But it wasn't her fault—she blew the horn!" That was just my shorthand for saying that the comment (based on a discussion in the previous section that suggested it to be the factual) should be read as something that might not hold up to scrutiny as a justification. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 23:12, 25 December 2020 (EST)
Satan is mentioned in one of the oldest Christmas carols God rest ye merry gentlemen, "To save us from Satan's power when we had gone astray." RobSFree Kyle! 23:50, 25 December 2020 (EST)

The Magnificent Doctor

Who is the magnificent doctor? Let's not hobble our argument off the block by not addressing the elephant in the room. Doctors of Theology are real doctors! There were only THREE kinds of doctors in the Middle Ages: Doctors of Medicine, Doctors of Law and Doctors of Theology.

I bring up the Magnificent Doctor because he might be regarded as the Patron Saint of bogus lockdowns. As every schoolboy knows, William the Conqueror invaded Britain in 1066. But did you know the first lockdown was enacted by him in 1067?

Moreouer, to reduce the English people the sooner vnto obedience and awe, he tooke Simon Dun. The Conquerour taketh frō the Englishmen their armour, from them all their armour and weapons. He ordeined also that the maister of euerie houshold about eight of the clocke in the euening, should cause his fire to be raked vp ashes, his lights to be put out, and then go to bed. Besides this, to the end that euerie man might haue knowledge of the houre to go to rest, he gaue order, that in all cities, townes, and villages, where anie church was, there should a bell be roong at the said houre, which custome is still vsed euen vnto this daie, Couer few, first instituted and commonly called by the French word, Couer few [curfew], that is, Rake vp the fier.—Holinshed's Chronicles

There is no happy ending to this story. The Magnificent Doctor, St. Anselm, who lived in Britain at the time, had to suffer under the...unjustified...curfew like everyone else. On the other hand, maybe it raised his indignation enough to inspire him to study even harder:

Monologium [Soliloquy], original title Faith Seeking Understanding
[I] have written the following treatise, in the person of one who strives to lift his mind to the contemplation of God, and seeks to understand what he believes.
I seek not, O Lord, to search out Thy depth, but I desire in some measure to understand Thy truth, which my heart believeth and loveth. Nor do I seek to understand that I may believe, but I believe that I may understand. For this too I believe, that unless I first believe, I shall not understand.

So just remember, knowing the details of the "catechism" or other sets of teachings in your various faiths or even the Bible may not be enough. Should you take instruction from the Magnificent Doctor, or his predecessor St. Augustine, they could very well be counselling you to seek understanding.

"Wait a minute, why would St. Anselm have to obey the curfew? He wasn't British; in fact, he was an actual member of William the Conqueror's court!"

[long pause] [cringes] "D'oh!!"

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 01:22, 26 December 2020 (EST)

Honorary doctorate

On what occasion was it recorded that Jesus was given a doctorate, if it all? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 01:39, 26 December 2020 (EST)

Was the Roman Republic ever an actual republic?

Peter Ka mentioned both Cicero and St. Augustine in his YouTube presentations, a platform of which I am not a member (BTW I have never been a member of Wikipedia, either). "Those names..." I told myself. And they triggered a memory of this citation which I posted earlier:

Augustine (413-426 A.D.) The City of God, translated by Marcus Dods (1885), book 19, ch. 21. —"Whether there ever was a Roman Republic answering to the definitions of Scipio in Cicero’s dialogue."

This, then, is the place where I should fulfill the promise gave in the second book of this work, and explain, as briefly and clearly as possible, that if we are to accept the definitions laid down by Scipio in Cicero’s De Republica, there never was a Roman republic; for he briefly defines a republic as the weal of the people. And if this definition be true, there never was a Roman republic, for the people’s weal was never attained among the Romans.
For the people, according to his definition, is an assemblage associated by a common acknowledgment of right and by a community of interests. And what he means by a common acknowledgment of right he explains at large, showing that a republic cannot be administered without justice. Where, therefore, there is no true justice there can be no right.
For that which is done by right is justly done, and what is unjustly done cannot be done by right. For the unjust inventions of men are neither to be considered nor spoken of as rights; for even they themselves say that right is that which flows from the fountain of justice, and deny the definition which is commonly given by those who misconceive the matter, that right is that which is useful to the stronger party. Thus, where there is not true justice there can be no assemblage of men associated by a common acknowledgment of right, and therefore there can be no people, as defined by Scipio or Cicero; and if no people, then no weal of the people, but only of some promiscuous multitude unworthy of the name of people.
Consequently, if the republic is the weal of the people, and there is no people if it be not associated by a common acknowledgment of right, and if there is no right where there is no justice, then most certainly it follows that there is no republic where there is no justice. Further, justice is that virtue which gives every one his due. Where, then, is the justice of man, when he deserts the true God and yields himself to impure demons? Is this to give every one his due? Or is he who keeps back a piece of ground from the purchaser, and gives it to a man who has no right to it, unjust, while he who keeps back himself from the God who made him, and serves wicked spirits, is just?

This same book, De Republica, advocates the cause of justice against injustice with great force and keenness. The pleading for injustice against justice was first heard, and it was asserted that without injustice a republic could neither increase nor even subsist, for it was laid down as an absolutely unassailable position that it is unjust for some men to rule and some to serve; and yet the imperial city to which the republic belongs cannot rule her provinces without having recourse to this injustice. It was replied in behalf of justice, that this ruling of the provinces is just, because servitude may be advantageous to the provincials, and is so when rightly administered,—that is to say, when lawless men are prevented from doing harm. And further, as they became worse and worse so long as they were free, they will improve by subjection.
To confirm this reasoning, there is added an eminent example drawn from nature: for “why,” it is asked, “does God rule man, the soul the body, the reason the passions and other vicious parts of the soul?” This example leaves no doubt that, to some, servitude is useful; and, indeed, to serve God is useful to all. And it is when the soul serves God that it exercises a right control over the body; and in the soul itself the reason must be subject to God if it is to govern as it ought the passions and other vices. Hence, when a man does not serve God, what justice can we ascribe to him, since in this case his soul cannot exercise a just control over the body, nor his reason over his vices? And if there is no justice in such an individual, certainly there can be none in a community composed of such persons.
Here, therefore, there is not that common acknowledgment of right which makes an assemblage of men a people whose affairs we call a republic. And why need I speak of the advantageousness, the common participation in which, according to the definition, makes a people? For although, if you choose to regard the matter attentively, you will see that there is nothing advantageous to those who live godlessly, as every one lives who does not serve God but demons, whose wickedness you may measure by their desire to receive the worship of men though they are most impure spirits, yet what I have said of the common acknowledgment of right is enough to demonstrate that, according to the above definition, there can be no people, and therefore no republic, where there is no justice.
For if they assert that in their republic the Romans did not serve unclean spirits, but good and holy gods, must we therefore again reply to this evasion, though already we have said enough, and more than enough, to expose it? He must be an uncommonly stupid, or a shamelessly contentious person, who has read through the foregoing books to this point, and can yet question whether the Romans served wicked and impure demons. But, not to speak of their character, it is written in the law of the true God, “He that sacrificeth unto any god save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed.”[1] He, therefore, who uttered so menacing a commandment decreed that no worship should be given either to good or bad gods.

[VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 20:54, 19 April 2020 (EDT)]

I guess I could comment briefly. This would mean the loss of the American republic I mentioned above would be all the greater if my analysis, definitions and conclusions in the "A real crisis" section above are indeed accurate!

Secondly, Augustine's essay is the first essay in history of which I know that speaks of the idea of "civil rights" in light of the understanding of the Christian faith.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 02:29, 26 December 2020 (EST)

Independence Day is not July the Fourth

Independence Day is not July the Fourth. Independence Day is today. Independence Day is any day we are alive and free from the tyranny of arbitrary government and free to resist tyranny in a republic designed to be sustained by Christians while yet permitting members of other religions to be citizens. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 04:22, 26 December 2020 (EST)

Harris and Kwanzaa

"Our Kwanzaa celebrations are one of my favorite childhood memories. The whole family would gather around across multiple generations and we’d tell stories and light the candles," according to Kamala Harris's latest tweet. Now, before Kamala got presidential ambitions and decided she was a Black American, she was making headlines by breaking glass ceilings on behalf of Hindus and Indians. In her childhood, she was living with her Tamil mother in Canada. As one response says, "Of all the things that never happened, this one never happened the most." See American Thinker.

According to this ngram, Kwanzaa wasn't a thing until the mid-1980s. Harris was born in 1964. PeterKa (talk) 10:42, 27 December 2020 (EST)

Yes, that's true, all of a few dozen families in New York, not California, in front of CBS News cameras. RobSFree Kyle! 21:12, 27 December 2020 (EST)
"as a response to the commercialism of Christmas", i.e. a commie plot. RobSFree Kyle! 21:15, 27 December 2020 (EST)
Guy behind Kwanzaa? Commie, ex-con professor. RobSFree Kyle! 21:01, 28 December 2020 (EST)


I think Pence is going to do it. He's going to toss the frauduent Electors. That's why he's leaving the country to hide out between Jan. 6 and when he's re-inaugurated Jan. 20. RobSFree Kyle! 12:55, 27 December 2020 (EST)

Good. We can get Loretta Lynch or Robert Muller to prosecute Pence when it happens, and SCOTUS toss out the l887 law before January 20. RobSFree Kyle! 21:04, 28 December 2020 (EST)
But I have a parliamentary question, who is going to rule Pence out of order on January 6? RobSFree Kyle! 21:05, 28 December 2020 (EST)
And another alternative, SCOTUS can uphold the Constitution and strike down the l887 law after Pence is re-inaugurated, too. RobSFree Kyle! 23:21, 28 December 2020 (EST)
Not really. It's all up to whether Pence, a man of conscience, decides to uphold his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution. Tom Jefferson as VP elected himself using fraudulent ballots from Georgia in l800; what Pence is doing now is the exact opposite. RobSFree Kyle! 12:02, 29 December 2020 (EST)
The Deep State and CIA don't have any black helicopter units anymore. They are all under the direct command of the commander in chief and acting Defense Secretary. If the Democrats try more riots after their failed attempt to overthrow the Constitution, the Insurrection Act can be invoked.
The Posse Comitatus Act of l878 only facilitated the rise of the Democrats last paramilitary terrorist wing before Antifa and Black Lives Matter - the Ku Klux Klan - and is often mistaken what its implications are. It threatened to jail local officials and the Union Army for two years who tried to interfere with Democrat voter suppression and Jim Crow laws. That is not the issue here, at all. RobSFree Kyle! 12:12, 29 December 2020 (EST)
Unfortunately for the Democrats and their paramilitary terrorist wing, they have spelled out on their websites their intention to destroy the United States Constitution. RobSFree Kyle! 12:16, 29 December 2020 (EST)
  • The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted
The President of the Senate counts the votes. RobSFree Kyle! 15:28, 29 December 2020 (EST)
Hmmm. Maybe that's why Gohmert is challenging the language of 1887 statute? RobSFree Kyle! 15:39, 30 December 2020 (EST)
This is what happened in l800 and l960, and maybe a few other times like in l872. RobSFree Kyle! 15:32, 29 December 2020 (EST)
In l800 and l960, the President of the Senate decided which slate of dueling electors was valid; in l872, the President of the Senate didn't bother to count Louisianna and Arkansas cause the winner already had the requisite amount. RobSFree Kyle! 15:35, 29 December 2020 (EST)
In l960, the President of the Senate threw out the state certified results and replaced it with the alternative slate. RobSFree Kyle! 15:39, 29 December 2020 (EST)
My #l is broken on the keyboard, and don't want to make that totalitarian fascist Jeff Bezos any richer through Amazon cause my Democrat totalitarian fascist Gov. is too busy trying to destroy capitalism and the American free enterprise system with totalitarian fascist lockdowns. RobSFree Kyle! 15:48, 29 December 2020 (EST)
It's apparently not happening: "Pence refused to sign on to plan to overturn election, lawyers say." PeterKa (talk) 12:32, 30 December 2020 (EST)
Because of the 2 hour debate limit, Pence could ask for all objections up front before votes are counted. Whatever, this session will be precedent setting. RobSFree Kyle! 15:29, 30 December 2020 (EST)
Now that U.S. Senator Hawley from Missouri has decided to contest the results, I guess Pence is off the hook. PeterKa (talk) 23:23, 30 December 2020 (EST)

The judge has apparently set a deadline of 5 p.m. December 31, 2020, for Pence's counsel's response and one for 9 a.m. January 1, 2021, for the plaintiff's reply. "East Texas judge sets deadline for Pence in Gohmert lawsuit"

The purpose of the Pence lawsuit, now on Appeal, is to make the argument that the constitutionality of the Electoral Count Act, vis-a-vis the wording that says a majority House vote can overrule an objection rather than the 12th Amendment prescription for a vote by state delegation in electoral matters before a Joint Session, is in dispute. It is not "settled law".
In short, the Electiral Count Act conflicts with the 12th Amendment. RobSFree Kyle! 03:32, 3 January 2021 (EST)

Western civilization no more

Idiots are at the helm of American education, and they object to the idea that anyone might know more than they do: "Even Homer Gets Mobbed: A Massachusetts school has banned ‘The Odyssey.’" PeterKa (talk) 20:52, 27 December 2020 (EST)

Perdue is not exactly a "conservative outsider"

David Perdue (R-GA) likes to fancy himself as an "outsider" compared to other swamp politicians for some reason. [38] [39] However, at this point, he's just more of an establishmentarian globalist; yesterday he praised Trump for signing the lousy pork bill [40], and today it was reported by The Hill that he apparently had pushed for Trump to sign that pathetic legislation. [41]LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 22:18, 28 December 2020 (EST)

Thank God, now people can vote for Ossoff with a clear conscience, huh? Unless your real intent is to engage in voter suppression, demoralize GOP voters, and play into Stacy Abrams hands. RobSFree Kyle! 23:24, 28 December 2020 (EST)
I'm just stating some of the facts. While Republicans are better than left-wing Democrats for the most part, electing the establishment type means that pork bills and globalist measures pass through Congress easily. Besides, with all the Dominion technology in Georgia, I wouldn't be surprised if the Democrats simply find a way to steal both runoffs no matter what. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 00:13, 29 December 2020 (EST)
Excuse me. I thought you were just trolling. RobSFree Kyle! 00:32, 29 December 2020 (EST)
And that seems like a convenient excuse - you can blame Democrats for election fraud rather than take responsibility for your own efforts at voter suppression. RobSFree Kyle! 01:11, 29 December 2020 (EST)
Meanwhile, Republicans try to dispel the myth that they engage in voter suppression, but here you are 8 days before the election signing your name to an effort. RobSFree Kyle! 01:13, 29 December 2020 (EST)

The woke army

Poneytails and braids are on the way. The Air Force already allows earings and nail polish. Check out the soldier in high heels, although that's just a meme (for the moment). See "The Army is planning a major overhaul of its hair and grooming regulations" in Task and Purpose. PeterKa (talk) 17:45, 29 December 2020 (EST)

I found this article interesting: Under Obama, there came to be a cancer in the Pentagon. RobSFree Kyle! 22:12, 29 December 2020 (EST)
After reading the article, I have to wonder if the purged nuclear missile program would obey a launch order issued by a Republican president. PeterKa (talk) 17:42, 31 December 2020 (EST)
As in the DOJ, there is a division in the DOD as well between white hats and black hats - between traditional patriots loyal to America, its values, and the Constitution and traditional partisan anti-American Democrats loyal party. The solution, as always, is not to reform the institution but rather expand the bureaucracy with a new sub-agency to compete with the installed civil servants and hopefully follow the direction of the elected chief executive in the long run. This is Trump's Space Force, a new service branch that requires loyalty to America and not the civil service or Democrat party. RobSFree Kyle! 05:43, 1 January 2021 (EST)

What went wrong?

From these graphs, it appears that things started to go off the rails in early May. The polls got steadily worse all through May and June. The lockdowns went into effect in late March, the "disinfectant" press conference was on April 24, and the riots started at the end of May.

Trump supporters gave the economy and crime as their top concerns. Biden supporters said health care and covid, according to Pew. ("Climate change" is America's No. 11 concern.) If you are a "completely" masculine man, you are much more likely to approve of Trump, according to Fivethirtyeight. I don't know what to make of that, but I found the result amusing. What kind of man admits to a stranger that he feels "less masculine"? Perhaps there should have been an ad campaign: "Are you man enough to vote for Trump?" PeterKa (talk) 12:00, 31 December 2020 (EST)

The real problem was that Trump later on didn't push for HCQ as he initially did. We all knew it was effective at combating COVID-19, but I guess he was paying too much attention to his inept advisers. After all, why would anyone think that Karl Rove would be great at advising campaigns? [42]LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 12:12, 31 December 2020 (EST)
Didn't they try that in Brazil? Trump didn't use HCQ when he came down with covid in early October, although he did take zinc. Trump was his own best spokesman on covid until the disinfectent press conference at the end of April. He should not have hogged so much media attention for himself. The advantage of letting a spokesman take the lead is that you can fire him if he screws up.
Another thing that would have made a difference is if he had called out the troops to recapture the police stations and suppress the riots early on. PeterKa (talk) 17:36, 31 December 2020 (EST)
So here's the thing: Trump didn't get COVID-19 in May when he took HCQ then, as he got the virus months after last taking it. And since he admitted to a military hospital likely influenced by the Deep state, it could've been very hard, if not impossible for him to get the inexpensive, effective drug. And as for the riots, that's a good point. He probably listened to Jared Kushner too much in his lack of sufficiently suppressing the far-left insurrection. However, it's important to note from a constitutional standpoint of federal/state powers that he couldn't just do some things unilaterally; most (if not all) of the states/cities where the riots happened are run by Democrats. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Thursday, 18:27, 31 December 2020 (EST)
Betting on HCQ seems to have paid off for Bolsanaro in Brazil. He has been a roll since June.[43] His nearest rival is former president Lula, who is not eligible to run. PeterKa (talk) 19:01, 31 December 2020 (EST)
I dunno much about Brazil, and the problem here in the U.S. is that even if Trump continued to push for HCQ, the lousy media attacking the effective drug in addition to the Deep state/Big Pharma would still mean that many people wouldn't get sufficient access to it (not to mention many people distrusting it with all the misinformation), especially given all the Democrat governors restricting it. (and yet liberals ironically blame Trump for the COVID-19 deaths...)
By the way PeterKa, I think said that you live in Vietnam (correct me if I'm wrong). What's the status of HCQ there? —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 19:14, 31 December 2020 (EST)
You can go to a Vietnamese pharmacy and buy as much HCQ as you like. No prescription necessary. They import it from India. The country has four hospitals that have been rated as up to international standards, two in Hanoi and two in Saigon. Otherwise, Vietnamese health care has a shaky reputation. There have been only 35 covid deaths so far. I attribute that to the country's high level of solar radiation. On the 1 to 10 ultraviolet radiation scale, we often wieght in at 11 or 12. PeterKa (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2021 (EST)
Hmm, that's certainly interesting. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 00:19, 1 January 2021 (EST)
If you remember, at the notorious April press conference, Trump was asking researchers about the benefits of ultraviolet. PeterKa (talk) 00:28, 1 January 2021 (EST)
I apparently didn't catch up on some of that. So what was the full story about it again? —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 00:37, 1 January 2021 (EST)
This will get you up to speed: "'Scientific Basis' for Trump's Injecting Light, Disinfectant Quips" (Newsmax). There was a rally-round-the-flag moment when covid hit in March and April. But otherwise Trump has been one of the least popular figures in American politics all along. So it is not necessary to think of this or any other moment as a turning point. He won in 2016 only because Hillary was even less popular. PeterKa (talk) 04:22, 1 January 2021 (EST)
Okay, thanks for sharing the article! —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 10:15, 1 January 2021 (EST)
This is what's called "narrative engineering" to cover for Democrat election fraud. What went wrong were corrupt officials at all levels, from Governor and Secretary of State down to county election supervisors and precinct workers - in both parties. And the solution to "vote them out" is laughable. This is an unprecedented presidential election, and narrative engineering using formulas to compare it to past elections is part of the coverup of a crime against democracy and human rights. RobSFree Kyle! 04:54, 1 January 2021 (EST)
After World War II, the United States set an example to the world by rehabilitating Nazi Germany and transforming it into a democratic state. We did the same thing in Japan, South Korea, Iraq and other countries all over the globe. We were a beacon of light. Wake up and smell the coffee. Those days are over now thanks to the Biden junta, ambitious Democratic party officials, and a corrupt media. It's a new era.
The most astounding thing to me is, the message of Obama's Apology Tour and America First is basically the same - the burden of global leadership is too much for the taxpayers of one country to carry. While Obama presented in terms of a reproach, Trump tried to maintain some self-respect and dignity. The American people will decide in the next week if they willingly submit to totalitarianism, and communism and become vassals of the CCP, or retain some measure of the values that the built the country and a belief that internal self-reform is possible. RobSFree Kyle! 04:54, 1 January 2021 (EST)
"New era?" No, I don't buy that and I also don't buy that Trump was one of the "least popular" American political figures all this time (and I base this on the attendance figures of his election campaign rallies). Anyone who believes this is buying into the TDS-influenced lies being crafted by the liberal media and their Democrat puppetmasters regarding the illegal coup (of which their vote fraud scheme played a huge part) and are allowing themselves to succumb to the pessimism, apathy and defeatism that the Left wants to have happen to us.
No, that "new era" is not going to happen if, failing the attempt to do the right thing and void and overturn the illegal vote fraud, Trump (who is still the rightful winner due to the Democrats getting caught cheating, regardless of what they and their liberal media cheerleaders and Big Tech falsely claim) and those loyal to him do what should be done and invoke EO 13848 and the Insurrection act of 1807 to cut the Democrat insurrectionists off at the knees, then start rounding up and mass-incarcerating all those who took part in the coup (i.e. the entire Democrat Party, their operatives and their funders and supporters [particularly including George Soros], as well as corrupt Democrat-loyal election officials and judges and RINOs who aided and abetted in the coup and liberal media figures, both on-camera and behind it, and Big Tech heads and their employee underlings who became accessories to the crime after the fact by covering for the Democrats and then lying about it) and make examples of the coup leaders by charging them with treason, giving them their military trial and then doing with them what should be done with traitors as prescribed by American law regarding treason. One way or the other, the Democrats have done themselves in and it's the end of the line for them, and they know it (and so do the American people). Northwest (talk) 06:38, 1 January 2021 (EST)
Well one thing is for sure, we're not going into Iraq, Libya, or the Ukraine to bring people democracy or the U.S. as a model anytime in the future. RobSFree Kyle! 07:53, 1 January 2021 (EST)
The America and Democrat party that helped defeat Nazi Germany and transform it into a democracy is not the same America and Democrat party of today. RobSFree Kyle! 08:00, 1 January 2021 (EST)

Repealing Section 230 will destroy prostitution!

If you want to rile up the far left, tell them that their access to prostitutes is being threatened. Here is Common Dreams: "Critics Warn Repeal of Section 230 'Would Be Devastating for Human Rights, Social Movements, and Marginalized People'." It's hard to justify tech giants getting this kind of freebee. But I'm skeptical that repeal would make much difference. The exemption is already enshrined in various international treaties, whatever happens to Section 230 itself. PeterKa (talk) 01:04, 2 January 2021 (EST)

They can keep their exemption, but a provision needs to be added that once they start adding banner Templates, censoring people, and editorializing, they lose the exemption.
The guy who owned the repair shop with the Biden laptop currently has a lawsuit against Twitter for defaming him as a "hacker". The suit has a good chance of success. This could be precedent setting. RobSFree Kyle! 17:10, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Should women be believed if the media says they're lunatics?

Do liberals believe in anything beyond power for themselves? I'm old enough to remember the me too movement: "Mother Jones includes Biden sexual assault accuser Tara Reade in list of 'top ten lunatics of 2020'." Where does this put Kamala Harris? I thought she believed Reade. PeterKa (talk) 08:20, 4 January 2021 (EST)

The Democrats will stop at nothing to uphold Roe vs. Wade. During the time of the civil war, the major political issue was slavery. Now it's abortion.
And when the Democrats embraced baby killing, they brought more rogues into their party.Conservative (talk) 14:30, 4 January 2021 (EST)
That's a good point. Abortion is in many ways similar to slavery despite all the liberal claptrap. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Monday, 14:48, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Devin Nunes and Jim Jordan were awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom!

They got it today, according to the NY Post:

--Presidentofyes12MJ WAS PRO-LIFE 15:16, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Roy Blunt possibly facing a formidable primary challenge in 2022?

It seems that some are already floating a possible primary challenger against RINO Roy Blunt for the 2022 U.S. Senate elections. [44] It's important to keep in mind that back in 2016, Trump carried Missouri by almost twenty points while Blunt, riding on the Trump wave, only managed to edge out a narrow victory over Democrat Jason Kander. [45] This is compared to movement conservative Josh Hawley, who won in the 2018 Midterms not only by double the victory margin of Blunt's, but defeated an incumbent Democrat in more of a "blue wave" year. [46]LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Monday, 17:57, 4 January 2021 (EST)

Georgia runoffs

The Democrats' dream of a remaking America as a leftist one party state along the lines of Venezuela. If they win both of the senate runoffs in Georgia, that's a realistic objective. You know the drill: let foriegners vote, expand the Supreme Court to undo Trump's appointments, and abolish the Electoral College to make voting fraud as easy as possible. Whenever they feel like rioting, they'll discover a disease that justifies putting deplorables in lockdown. The current polling averages show both Dems a point ahead of their Republican opponants. On Nov. 3, Trump beat his polling average in Georgia by one point. There hasn't really been all that many polls, so the general election results may be a better guide. Republicans were one to two points ahead at that time.[47] PeterKa (talk) 07:31, 5 January 2021 (EST)

Well, since polls are generally known to show bias and skewing in favor of liberals, I wouldn't put stock or faith in what those polls claim. Northwest (talk) 08:13, 5 January 2021 (EST)

2021 Joint proceedings

The language has been changed from "lawful in form and regularly given" to "lawful in form and authentic" (see Basis of Objections, p. 8 [48]). This is a departure for the 2017 and 2005 proceedings. RobSFree Kyle! 13:21, 6 January 2021 (EST)


News from the Stop the Steal rally in DC: BREAKING: Patriots Have Stormed the Capitol Building — Masses Breaching Federal Barriers — Cops Losing Control Northwest (talk) 14:23, 6 January 2021 (EST)

President Trump has also just denounced Mike Pence for his refusal to decertify the Democrat vote fraud: ‘Pence Didn’t Have the Courage to Protect Our Country’ – President Trump Tears Into Mike Pence as Patriots Storm Capitol Building Northwest (talk) 14:46, 6 January 2021 (EST)
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BREAKING: SHOTS FIRED IN CHAMBER — Woman Taken Out on Stretcher Covered in Blood (VIDEO) (Warning: contains some video with graphic footage) Northwest (talk) 15:41, 6 January 2021 (EST)
Looks like an Antifa false flag operation. RobSFree Kyle! 15:46, 6 January 2021 (EST)
I'd been hearing a bit about that, so I wouldn't put it past them. Northwest (talk) 15:49, 6 January 2021 (EST)
Does this look like MAGA? RobSFree Kyle! 16:04, 6 January 2021 (EST)
Black MAGA hat worn backwords -- the telltale sign of Antifa infiltrator. RobSFree Kyle! 17:40, 6 January 2021 (EST)

Article V Convention of the States?

Since the Constitution has been reduced to really whatever the people in power want it to be, can we agree that CoS is now a viable option yet? --Jpatt 15:14, 6 January 2021 (EST)

You mean give it over to limp wristed state reps? They just had their chance. RobSFree Kyle! 17:44, 6 January 2021 (EST)

Twitter suspends Trump

There were thirty-six deaths and $8 billion in damages in BLM/Antifa riots last summer. But the media never admitted that those responsible were a "mob" or "rioters." How many were killed in the "capital breach"? Our tech overlords don't see it that way, of course: "Twitter locks Trump's account in confrontation over Capitol breach posts." PeterKa (talk) 21:35, 6 January 2021 (EST)

Rumor is Vice President Mike Putz unfollowed Trump. RobSFree Kyle! 22:35, 6 January 2021 (EST)
I get my idea of mainstream media from Memeorandum, which Nate Silver recommends as representative of what media types are into. I balence that off with Lucianne to get a handle on what the conservative press is up to. Memeorandum generally referred to leftist riots as "peaceful protests." On a few occasions, this was toned down to "mostly peaceful protests." PeterKa (talk) 00:21, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Protest planning and organizing purposes

Facebook is just going nuts these days with the censorship and with whats going to happen for the next four years, why wouldn't they be drunk on power? But that leaves conservatives without a good place to organize these important events. Could Conservapedia be used in some way for this purpose? With the widespread shadow banning and deplatforming and doxing, we need all avenues available. Just wanted to ask and get input from others. This would also likely bring an influx of new users, so that is said. Above all, progressives want conservatives to feel alone. Isolating us, by itself, is a powerful tool that is being employed. Progressingamerica (talk) 23:17, 6 January 2021 (EST)

Just so that everybody understands the kind of potential vision that I have with this, let's say that a page had been created on December 30th for the upcoming Stop The Steal Rally scheduled for January 6th. Once that page had been created, a series of organizers would then be able to add in that it's scheduled for 11:30 AM, and another different might add in a map showing that it begins at 5th street and 12th place, and another could later update that map to show the march route, and perhaps someone else working on getting speakers could begin to add the scheduled speakers, etc etc. This sort of allowance would be incredibly useful for organizers to quickly get information out, for others to double check it for accuracy, and it would be a place that Google and the rest of them don't have reach to silence, and again, it would bring in a lot of new traffic I think while helping people reject the isolation that's being fostered. And, from the standpoint of an encyclopedia, I think it would be great to see people upload (some) of their personal photos so they aren't deleted by Instagram or whatever rotten digital platforms. Again, I am only submitting my thoughts for comment, but I think its a good one and I hope others will build on it and make it become acceptable use. Progressingamerica (talk) 23:26, 6 January 2021 (EST)
It's the Left's intent to try to demoralize (and stoke anger in) the American public through a psyop campaign via the Democrats' theft of the 2020 election, their Mafia-like threats against those who could bring the Democrats to heel so the Democrats could cow them into submission, and Antifa's infiltration of the pro-Trump protesters to stir up trouble in DC in an attempt to try to discredit the pro-Trump movement and make them, and by extension all conservatives, look bad. The trick here, though, is to see the Left's shenanigans for what they really are and to not let it get to us.
Meanwhile, Lin Wood has reported that President Trump is down at the National Defense Command Center in Abilene, Texas[49] and he's keeping a sharp eye on the events unfolding. Some, who have allowed the Left to beat them into pessimism, apathy and defeatism (or may be concern trolls engaging in a psyop), are claiming that Trump no longer has the support of the military and has been cut off from them by Pence, Pelosi et. al. - but if that really were the case, would he have been allowed to take Air Force One down to the NDCC? I have a hunch that there's more to this than is being let on, and it may well be to the coup plotters' ultimate detriment in due time. Northwest (talk) 23:49, 6 January 2021 (EST)
It is their intent to demoralize. So than how can Conservapedia combat that and in what proactive ways? How can we be proactive? Progressingamerica (talk) 23:54, 6 January 2021 (EST)
Outrageous. The House Chaplain ended the Joint Session with a prayer to "bless Antifa". RobSFree Kyle! 05:11, 7 January 2021 (EST)
NYT wrote today, "On social media sites requested by the far-right, such as Gab…. directions on which streets to take to avoid the police and which tools to bring to help pry open doors were exchanged in comments.”
RobSFree Kyle! 05:35, 7 January 2021 (EST)
Well, thanks for the answers on how to do planning and organizing here. I wasn't sure it was the right fit to begin with, but I wanted to just ask and see what people would say and if it could be workable, see if others might have expansions on the notion. Thank you. Progressingamerica (talk) 11:34, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Mike Pence = Benedict Arnold

Mike Pence has just illegally certified the election the Democrats stole from President Trump via massive vote fraud (and did so while no one was up to pay attention): BREAKING: Traitor Mike Pence Certifies Biden’s Election ‘Victory’ This is going to end only one way - with Trump invoking EO 13848 and the Insurrection Act of 1807 to deal with the traitors. Northwest (talk) 04:02, 7 January 2021 (EST)

President Trump has responded to the illegal electoral certification (which he had to do through Dan Scavino, as he is currently illegally blocked on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram): BREAKING: President Trump Issues Statement Responding to Electoral Certification Northwest (talk) 04:51, 7 January 2021 (EST)

WaPo wants Trump removed (again)

The Washington Post has called on Pence to remove Trump using the 25th Amendment: "Trump caused the assault on the Capitol. He must be removed." Let me go on record as being the first to support following the laws concerning protests. But I note that this is coming from people who cheered the attacks on the Federal Building in Portland, as well as BLM's attacks on the White House from Lafayette Park. The Capital Police just killed a pro-Trump protester. Isn't that worse than the teargassing of Lafayette Park? If the police had continued to allow BLM to do as they pleased in the park, a major assault on the White House was in the works. In Portland, Antifa sent flaming dumpsters at the Federal Building every night for a month. PeterKa (talk) 06:13, 7 January 2021 (EST)

The Pentagon is already reporting to Pence as opposed to Trump, according to this: "Has the 25th Amendment Basically Been Invoked?." PeterKa (talk) 06:50, 7 January 2021 (EST)


Something big is going down regarding the involvement of certain Italian politicians with the Democrat election steal, and this could have major ramifications against the entire Democrat Party: Maria Zack Italy did it - Arturo D'Elia Admits to stealing election Northwest (talk) 17:23, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Something I noticed yesterday...

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Senate Republicans seem less anti-establishment than House Republicans in general. So after Paul Gosar and Ted Cruz had objected to the Biden electors for Arizona, a strong applause on the GOP side grew. The difference between the Senate GOP and the House GOP is significant as seen here → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → → →

LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 20:18, 7 January 2021 (EST)

Pelosi plots impeachment

From the point of view of the Capitol Police, an assault by protesters on the Capitol Building is nothing out the ordinary. BLM did one back in June. It was all so run-of-the-mill that I don't even remember the news reporting it at the time. See this CNN story. But this time around, the Capitol Police failed to protect the building. Judging from Pelosi's response, she is not surprised. This is her plan in action. We can expect the House to impeach Trump next. PeterKa (talk) 20:21, 7 January 2021 (EST)

After Antifa was bussed in, [50] the Capitol Police removed barricades to allow the storming of the building. [51] RobSFree Kyle! 20:30, 7 January 2021 (EST)
Maybe this is just conspiratorial, I have a feeling that George Soros and his cronies could've been behind this. —LTMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 20:33, 7 January 2021 (EST)
We all know that, you're just adding one more stupid charge that I have to answer to TwoDots to in the Chicken Coop now. Why don't you focus on the so-called "After Action Reports" and "lessons learned", since it's pretty obvious everyone was in on it beginning with Pence and Pelosi, and later Loeffler, Cruz, and Hawley who refused to object to Georgia in the aftermath. RobSFree Kyle! 21:09, 7 January 2021 (EST)
  • The Capitol breach is looking more and more like a Reichstag fire, a pretext for Dems to attack conservatives. Impeachment is all the rage on CNN, but the Senate in recess. Even if the House impeaches Trump again, there would have to be unanimous consent for the senate to consider the issue before January 20. See this article in the Washington Examiner. PeterKa (talk) 20:28, 8 January 2021 (EST)

What happens when leftists attack Congress

Have Americans always recoiled in horror to attacks on the U.S. Capitol? Well, no, not so much. Jimmy Carter pardoned four Puerto Ricans who shot five congressmen from the gallery in a 1954 attack. Bill Clinton pardoned Weather Underground member Susan Rosenberg. She had 700 pounds of explosives she planned to use to blow up the Capitol. One explosion blew off the door to Robert Byrd's office. Prosecuters didn't even bother to charge Rosenberg with bombing the Capitol. Her involvement in a 1981 Brinks truck heist seemed more pressing. We have a ruling from Snopes that her activities were not terrorism: "it is a matter of subjective determination as to whether the actions for which Rosenberg was convicted and imprisoned — possession of weapons and hundreds of pounds of explosives — should be described as acts of ‘domestic terrorism.’” After all, explosives do have many legitimate, non-terrorist applications. Rosenberg is now on the board of BLM.

Was it domestic terrorism when Barack Obama and Al Sharpton joined forces to incite riots in Ferguson? Please tell us, Mitt Romney.[52]

Powerlineblog has a good rundown of recent leftist violence. No one expects leftist "protesters" to behave like decent human beings at this point. The most directly relevant example is the riots on Trump's inaugeration day.

The left is using the Capitol Hill riots as an excuse to crackdown on anybody they don't like, including Cruz and Hawley, who had nothing to do with the riots. They simply voted against certification. Several Dems voted against certification in 2005. PeterKa (talk) 11:10, 8 January 2021 (EST)